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I dont know, and I can't explain those weapons, but my point was hearing voices and all that, does sound like mental illness.
sorry being a victim of this is more than just hearing voices

most genuine TI`s have symptoms that match with microwave sickness and don`t have a mental health history ...and generally past the age of onset on mental illness and in their mid 30`s or 40`s and also many are professional people ....most people with mental illness are diagnosed in the teenage years
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sorry being a victim of this is more than just hearing voices

most genuine TI`s have symptoms that match with microwave sickness and don`t have a mental health history ...and generally past the age of onset on mental illness and in their mid 30`s or 40`s and also many are professional people ....most people with mental illness are diagnosed in the teenage years
i'd say mental health issues are more likely to arise in adulthood due to pressures and stresses of debt, work, health, finances etc etc.

Including things like ADHD, Tourette's etc as mental health conditions has boosted the stats of children who suffer from 'mental health related conditions.'

Yet the mental health foundation stats claim that 10% of children and young adults have a clinically diagnosable MH problem:

20% of adolescents may experience a mental health problem in any given year.
50% of mental health problems are established by age 14 and 75% by age 24.
10% of children and young people (aged 5-16 years) have a clinically diagnosable mental problem3, yet 70% of children and adolescents who experience mental health problems have not had appropriate interventions at a sufficiently early age.4

https://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/stat...d-young-people

Also, don't forget that when a person enters adolescence / puberty, then all sorts of things start to happen that fuck them up in one way or another - anxieties etc are very prevalent at that time of life. Today's modern world emphasise those changes and make them a whole lot more difficult than they need to be through peer pressure, perceived peer pressure, media etc. And so taking those 'anxiety' issues as part of the over-all equation is somewhat disingenuous to MH stats, in and of itself - as teenage anxieties are more about society than they are about on-going mental health conditions. OC those anxieties do translate into mh issues later in life, but generally speaking they are just a part of growing up in a fucked up world.

MH is just more diagnosable now than it ever has been - certainly more character traits are being diagnosed as mental health now than they were say 40 years ago.

A person who was born 40 years ago might have been called a problem child, or naughty back then - but now they will be diagnosed as being on a spectrum, or something.

So a teenager today may be diagnosed, but a person who was a teenager twenty and thirty years ago would have just been a pain in the ass back then.

Even OCD is a mental disorder - it's claimed that about 1% of people suffer from it. I'd say the figure is much higher due to many being undiagnosed.

The way MH is being diagnosed has changed over the last twenty years, and the numbers of diagnosis have become particularly prevalent in today's society very recently.

To say 'most people are diagnosed in their teenage years' kinda ignores the fact that those people in their 30's and 40's were not diagnosed in their teenage years due the the medical practices and the way society dealt with mental health 20 and 30 years ago.

And, when you consider that 1/4 people suffer from or will be effected by mental or neurological disorders at some point in their lives - 25% of people far outweighs 10% - 20% of children.
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look if you have objective evidence of being targeted ...implants ...strange EMF readings emanating from your body...it doesn't matter if you been diagnosed mentally ill or not ...

unfortunately, TI`s get no help on this and have to gather evidence themselves and denied proper support and help to investigate this

also the technology disrupts your ability to function normally and easy to sabotage your ability to get genuine evidence


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i'd say mental health issues are more likely to arise in adulthood due to pressures and stresses of debt, work, health, finances etc.
er, that's what's called a breakdown ...rather than an actual mental illness...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_breakdown


anybody can have a mental breakdown as its due to external circumstances ...you don`t just have a breakdown for no reason
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look if you have objective evidence of being targeted ...implants ...strange EMF readings emanating from your body...it doesn't matter if you been diagnosed mentally ill or not ...
Surely it matters. If one person is claiming they are being targeted, then their mental health certainly has something to do with it and does have 'something to do with it' if they are diagnosed?

Mental health conditions and the 'evidence' they perceive from targeting may well mirror each other - so are 'they' (alphabet agencies) making targets look mentally ill to mask what they are doing?

Surely if 'you' (as you put it) - or anyone else - have been diagnosed mentally ill, then that illness does have a direct correlation into how that person perceives reality around them.

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also the technology disrupts your ability to function normally and easy to sabotage your ability to get genuine evidence
Can the same be said of mental health conditions? Does anxiety or OCD, tourettes, ADHD etc (and many other diagnosable conditions) sabotage one's ability to interact with the world?

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er, that's what's called a breakdown ...rather than an actual mental illness...
A breakdown is a form of mental illness.
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Surely it matters. If one person is claiming they are being targeted, then their mental health certainly has something to do with it.
if you look and sound mentally ill or a least show behaviours then you can get diagnosed with a mental illness ... there is no scientific test ... it's subjective and based if you meet certain criteria


being a attacked by Electromagnetic waves that disrupt your bodies normal function is not subjective ..it can be tested for ....and in fact, there are many declassified documents of the effects of it ...it can have a very similar effect to be under the influence of mind-altering drugs ...so when they pause you return to homeostasis

yes mental health history can be a factor ...genuine TI`s normal don`t have a mental health history and past the age of the onset of it and normal had a functioning life ...many victims are professional people ...a few thousand worldwide

there are many people claiming to be "targeted" and normal obsessed with "gangstalking" and basically trying to say its reason for there " behaviour" and diagnoses of schizophrenia ...but have a long history of mental health issues and childhood trauma ....never had a job, got married, had kids etc ... sound more like they are reporting stigma ,anti-social behavior and hate crimes
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Mental health conditions and the 'evidence' they perceive from targeting may well mirror each other - so are 'they' (alphabet agencies) making targets look mentally ill to mask what they are doing?
look there is nothing " perceived" is there when illegal implants that are removed for victims body by surgeons so let's get that straight

next genuine Ti`s have very strange EMF activity around them which can be detected by suitable equipment ... again nothing "perceived" you could argue about the cause/source and whether it caused the symptoms the victim claims but its clearly a phenomena

Ti`s like electrosensitive victims report symptoms that match being exposure to EMF ...microwave sickness

there are many genuine TI`s with good strong evidence ...and basically using it for court cases ....not spamming it over the internet and spending all day ranting raving about how they been "perped" and "gangstalked" all day long



clearly merlincove YOUR perception of Ti`s has been influenced by psychologically destabilised individuals that claim to be TI`s but are actually suffering from mental illness like schizophrenia and other conditions, unfortunately, being a TI has been deliberately associated with mental illness as well as misinformation/disinformation to make it sounds like an attractive alternative for people with these conditions , but once you know the difference and what to look for you can separate the two
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clearly merlincove YOUR perception of Ti`s has been influenced by psychologically destabilised individuals that claim to be TI`s but are actually suffering from mental illness like schizophrenia and other conditions, unfortunately, being a TI has been deliberately associated with mental illness as well as misinformation/disinformation to make it sounds like an attractive alternative for people with these conditions , but once you know the difference and what to look for you can separate the two
Not sure how you 'clearly' know this - because even i don't clearly know this

i can actually see beyond what you perceive as influencing factors - to make my own mind up.

i can understand how mental illness and being targeted can be a living hell for some people - and how they can both look exactly the same.

I'm not saying they are the same, but how they can appear or how they come across - i'm saying that they can be construed as the same.

And, also the medical industries desires to pigeon hole symptoms as the same.

Because, lets face it, the medical industry isn't equipped to deal with symptoms of targeting, but are equipped to deal with MH - at least in diagnosis level.

But, also consider those people who have had implants removed who show zero sign of mental illness and zero signs of being a targeted individual.... Where does that leave the TI's who do exhibit signs of either perceived or real symptoms?

But, do you accept that there is, or could be, a real danger in telling people who may be mentally ill that they are in fact targeted individuals - because in doing so it may feed the deeper anxieties - and enable them to self-diagnose a very real and damaging condition as something that it isn't?
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I think that it wouldn’t take a gang of stalkers to make a Targeted Individual believe that a whole group of secret agents are out to get them. It would only take a couple of people intentionally acting strange on a couple of days...
Furthermore in the 21th century there is computer technology and wireless communication that is more efficient than "gang stalking"!


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Yet the mental health foundation stats claim that 10% of children and young adults have a clinically diagnosable MH problem:
It’s big pharma that invents mental disorders out of thin air, carefully “forgetting” to mention that psychiatric drugs cause a chemical imbalance of the brain.
Lisa Cosgrove concludes that most members of the DSM IV and DSM V panels are financially tied to the pharmaceutical industry (100% for the section that decides on psychosis related disorders):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...ed.1001190.pdf

In the Rosenhan experiment in 1972 8 mentally sane pseudopatients complained about voices in their head and were admitted to institutions. They behaved “normal” but the only way they could escape from the claws of psychiatry was to admit they were sick and take the medicine (which they dumped in the toilet). They eventually escaped with the remarkable diagnosis “schizophrenia in remission”; one of them was locked up for 52 days.


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MH is just more diagnosable now than it ever has been - certainly more character traits are being diagnosed as mental health now than they were say 40 years ago.

A person who was born 40 years ago might have been called a problem child, or naughty back then - but now they will be diagnosed as being on a spectrum, or something.
"more diagnosable" is that some sort of euphamism for brainwashed psychiatrist and other medical quacks sentencing innocent people to psychiatric disorders for the sake of population control while making a profit at the same time?!?

Even the state media confirms that people with AD(H)D do not have problems with concentration when they are not bored, which leads to the conclusion that the children that are sentenced to ADHD do not suffer from a mental disease, but something is wrong with the state education. If children refuse a little too hard to get brainwashed, they “need” psychiatric treatment. In the USA schools are stimulated to sentence kids to AD(H)D by a child find bonus, and additional money for each schoolchild with AD(H)D: http://www.rense.com/general4/addd.htm

The story of ADHD is that some children (coincidently mostly boys of the lower classes) suffer from a chemical imbalance in their brain (that usually miraculously stops in adulthood), causing concentration problems and makes them hyperactive. They do not diagnose ADHD by measuring this chemical imbalance of the brain, but by studying behaviour. How ridiculous the story really is, becomes apparent when the lack of attention can also lead to exact opposite – really quiet behaviour - ADD (mostly girls). So this attention disorder leads to a whole spectrum of behaviour and psychiatrists can choose at will which (poor) kids are sentenced to AD(H)D. You might know the story that only children with ADHD improve on Ritalin (but others get hyperactive). According to L. Alan Sroufe, professor emeritus at the University of Minnesota’s Institute of Child Development, Methylphenidate (Ritalin) was given to radar operators in World War II to help them focus on boring, repetitive tasks (is this an accurate description for school?): http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/29/op...term.html?_r=0

Ritalin is similar to amphetamine, a highly addictive hallucinant. Because kids get hooked, they could even say that Ritalin is beneficial (so they get their drugs). Quitting Ritalin leads to withdrawal effects, which is used as an argument for Ritalin (look what happens without Ritalin!). Nadine Lambert concludes Ritalin leads to drugs addiction: http://www.berkeley.edu/news/berkele...2/ritalin.html

It is well known that using amphetamines leads to extreme and aggressive behaviour; because of Ritalin more people will suffer from attention disorders and hyperactivity. A list of (side) effects of Ritalin – aggression, psychosis, depression, bad results at school, stomach ache, headache, seizures, coma and insomnia: http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/...ethsummary.pdf

The MTA study compared different kind of treatments, including a large group that got no drugs, for 579 children diagnosed with ADHD according to DSM and ran for years. In the first 14 months the hyperactive behaviour of the children with ADHD notably “improved”, but from 3 years on the group on Ritalin was just as hyperactive as the group without (drugs).
After 8 years: 70% of the group didn’t show hyperactive symptoms (independent of treatment), so why did they give them drugs in the first place? After 6 years the group that got no drugs showed less: 1) depressions or anxiety disorders (4.3% compared to more than 16.4%) and 2) psychotic or manic disorders (0.9% compared to more than 2.0%). Another conclusion is that the group with ADHD was less successful than a control group. See Molina et al “The MTA at 8 Years: Prospective Follow-Up of Children Treated for Combined Type ADHD in a Multisite Study” (2009): http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...hms-271449.pdf

Over the years some retired psychologists put their reputation on the line by revealing that ADHD is a prime example of a fictitious disease, for example: Leon Eisenberg (who played a part in inventing ADHD) and Dr. Jerome Kagan (of Harvard University). Here an interview with Kagan: http://www.spiegel.de/international/...-a-847500.html

More on psychiatry in the following thread: https://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=308060
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It's certainly odd that there has been a steady rise in ADHD diagnosis in the last ten - twenty years, and one has to ask why that is for sure, Jimmy.

The answers are, at best, uncomfortable and at worst show a progressive attitude from Big Pharma and the medical profession working together for profit - at the sake of children's health.

Don't forget that the medical profession practices health-care.

School, along with medicine, has come up with forumla's - these formula's don't fit every eventuality, or every person. For sure.

Science and medicine don't have all the answers, i'm sure - because the human condition and human capabilities are often beyond the remit of both.

i think medicine, in many instances subdues how brilliant people actually are. We just haven't got a reliable way to best allow people to fly unhindered - and that is more societies issue and fault that anything.

But then, and also: allowing people with severe mental health issues to fly isn't the answer either.

i don't know what the answer is. i can understand a lot of things, but sometimes some-thing's are beyond my understanding.

We're all individuals, what i'm saying is that treating everyone who fits into a pigeon hole the same isn't always the best way.

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Edit to add: i'm not convinced that ADHD is an entirely 'fictitious disease' - but given the spectrum i think it is wholly an easy and 'reliable' (ie safe to turn to) diagnosis for doc's to jump on to.

i have a high IQ, not that i consider myself super intelligent or anything - i often check myself when leaving the house to make sure i have my under-pants on under my trousers (lol, really i do) it's just that i'm just extremely good at tests. I could always score in the high 180's when i was in school, i'm no-where near that now though. Being good at tests doesn't make me super intelligent, it just means i'm good at analysing things and replicating what i know to be correct - and afaic, that is a basic human survival technique.....

I'm sure if i took the test i would be put on the ADHD spectrum, but equally by just switching that thing in my brain i could skim not being on it

Some days i could definitely wing it straight onto the spectrum

So, i don't think it is entirely 'made up' but it is a very easy net to use, and all to often it's one that is used purely to label people and treat them with a commonality illness that many are no-where near.
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Not sure how you 'clearly' know this - because even i don't clearly know this

i can actually see beyond what you perceive as influencing factors - to make my own mind up.

i can understand how mental illness and being targeted can be a living hell for some people - and how they can both look exactly the same.

I'm not saying they are the same, but how they can appear or how they come across - i'm saying that they can be construed as the same.

And, also the medical industries desires to pigeon hole symptoms as the same.

Because, lets face it, the medical industry isn't equipped to deal with symptoms of targeting, but are equipped to deal with MH - at least in diagnosis level.

But, also consider those people who have had implants removed who show zero sign of mental illness and zero signs of being a targeted individual.... Where does that leave the TI's who do exhibit signs of either perceived or real symptoms?

But, do you accept that there is, or could be, a real danger in telling people who may be mentally ill that they are in fact targeted individuals - because in doing so it may feed the deeper anxieties - and enable them to self-diagnose a very real and damaging condition as something that it isn't?
right let's agree on a few things


A) there are people with mental illness ... a large number

B) there are people with mental illness that sometimes claim they are targeted and gangstalked .... a small number
(this group generally have a long history of mental health issues and childhood trauma )

now we can I think both agree on the above ... and both A & B will clearly show the standard signs of mental illness and meet the criteria of a diagnosis

C) Also, there is another group of fakes and shills that are putting out false information and have agendas on targeting ...not sure on this number

but there is a group D) people that are being abused by emerging technology implants and electromagnetic weapons/tech ... around 4,000 10,000 worldwide(again based on website traffic and participation in surveys and activism etc) ..between 100-200 in the UK again a very small number of people


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totally agree... and I do my best to persuade people from doing this .....plus the Ti community wants and actively seek scientific test so we can screen people who claim to be victims and to support genuine claims

I personally want to move Ti`s away from being sandwiched between mental illness and paranormal claims by focusing on the scietific DATA and evidence

I see targeting as a human rights issues and proving we are victims throw gathering evidence medical imagery /RF scans etc

not as an explanation for peoples diagnoses of a mental illness
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i can understand how mental illness and being targeted can be a living hell for some people - and how they can both look exactly the same
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A delusion is a mistaken belief that is held with strong conviction even in the presence of superior evidence to the contrary. As a pathology, it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information, confabulation, dogma, illusion, or some other misleading effects of perception.

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A delusion is a mistaken belief that is held with strong conviction even in the presence of superior evidence to the contrary.
genuine Ti`s that that do the research and get scientific evidence are getting to the point where we have the "superior evidence" ...objective independent proof back by experts

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clearly, this is what's happening to TI`s we don`t have all the facts and there's plenty of misinformation/disinformation and their is a lot of dirty tricks going on to affect our perception
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Edit to add to my above post: i also think the human mind / brain has a great capability - science, medicine etc has a great need to categorise people in order to best manage those who they consider act outside of normal confines.

But the human mind can create scenarios and realities, and even manipulate the physical body to produce symptoms in order for it to rationalise the scenarios.

Manifestation techniques are not fully understood, even by spiritual gurus.

And while i'm sure that even within the small percentage of people who are TI's and Abductees, that even in such a very small group, 1% or 2% of those people are experiencing effects that are wholly manifested by their own minds capabilities.

I'm unsure if Deca would agree that even within the minority groups above there are sub-groups?
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Edit to add to my above post: i also think the human mind / brain has a great capability - science, medicine etc has a great need to categorise people in order to best manage those who they consider act outside of normal confines.

But the human mind can create scenarios and realities, and even manipulate the physical body to produce symptoms in order for it to rationalise the scenarios.

Manifestation techniques are not fully understood, even by spiritual gurus.

And while i'm sure that even within the small percentage of people who are TI's and Abductees, that even in such a very small group, 1% or 2% of those people are experiencing effects that are wholly manifested by their own minds capabilities.

I'm unsure if Deca would agree that even within the minority groups above there are sub-groups?

you really need to look at Dr Persinger's work


now his "god" helmet disrupts the brain ....he does not play funny voices at his subjects, broadcast images or sensations

Susan Blackmore - Michael Persinger and the God Helmet (13/23)







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