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Old 26-02-2019, 10:26 AM   #401
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woah this writer is using strong language there when he says 'death warrant' i guess he means political death not actual death!

People’s Vote: Corbyn Signs His Own Death Warrant
Published on Feb, 26, 2019
Kit Knightly

Throughout his leadership of the Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn has disappointed some of his most ardent admirers by his refusal to hang tough. Yes, he has played many situations with canniness and subtlety, but too often he has been soft, appeased and conciliated where it is either unnecessary, or worse, entirely counter productive.

Too often he vows to “listen” to the problems of dissenting New Labour MPs, instead of asserting his authority. Too many times he has promised to “tackle antisemitism”, instead of bluntly telling everyone – “Labour is NOT antisemitic, this is a smear campaign”.

Corbyn should know by now that he can’t win by playing their game by their rules. You can’t appease people who do not want to be appeased. You can’t clean up a smear campaign, and trying just spreads the smears further.

However, none of his previous mistakes compare to the kamikaze of backing a people’s vote on Brexit, a huge mistake that undermines the Labour movement from multiple angles.

Firstly, there is “The Independent Group” to consider – this is, essentially, a cave to their demands. Corbyn has now shown he will bow to threats of defection and the loss of eight entirely forgettable MPs. More than bowing to the pressure, he has handed them legitimacy. Before today The Independent Group was a joke – their launch fell flat, they are all variously personally compromised, they have no policies, no ideology, no leader and they are even registered as business, NOT a political party.

They should have been ignored, mocked even, but not taken seriously. This decision hands them power. A dreadful mistake, that breathes life into a New Labour movement that has been husking out its last moments ever since Corbyn was elected leader.

Yes, it’s true this is technically no change from the Labour Conference position – but this announcement has meaning. Whatever the truth of the situation – the media can now present TIG as a small group who stood for their principles, and in doing so bent “Corbyn’s Personality Cult” back to the path of reason. Paying off a blackmailer is never the solution. They always want more.

Secondly, there is the Lexit vote. Brexit is not a purely left-vs-right issue. The media have tried to present Brexit as a battle between lovely cuddly progressives who want to remain and awful mean racists who want to leave. Obviously it was never that simple. There is a very real portion of the left who believe the EU is anti-democratic. It’s important to remember that being anti-EU was always a traditionally socialist position. A second referendum is a betrayal of those people, and weakening of Corbyn’s socialist base. There are marginal seats, especially in the poorer areas of the county, who will swing against Labour if it is perceived they are campaigning to stop Brexit.

Third, a teetering and hilariously incompetent Tory government has been shown a crack of hope here. They can now pitch themselves as “The British Party”, standing up for the nation against the “European” Labour party who want to “sell us out to Brussels”. You can be sure that’s how the Mail, Times and Sun will sell it. May can leverage this into a “khaki election” and win on a landslide of national pride.

Finally, and most importantly, there is the question of undermining democracy itself. It has never, ever, before been suggested we simply re-do a vote because we don’t like the outcome. Brexit has been sold as a vote “built on misinformation”, we have been told that “the realities have changed”, and that new voters have come of age, whilst old voters died. We have even been told Brexit needs to be undone because it is a threat to our “national security”.

A second referendum lends credence to these arguments – it sets the precedent. Demographic changes, dishonesty, national security. These lines of argument are vague and unquantifiable enough that they could then be cited as reason to delegitimize literally ANY vote. Up to, and including, a general election….that Jeremy Corbyn won.

“Labour lied about privatising water”….re-do the vote.
“Millions of old lefties have died since the last election”….re-do the vote.
“Corbyn’s campaign manager is a security threat”….re-do the vote.
https://off-guardian.org/2019/02/26/...death-warrant/
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Old 26-02-2019, 10:56 AM   #402
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Well chris if your messiah corbyn is such a radical dude then explain to me why he constantly folds in the face of pressure from the establishment?

If the establishment wants us all tied into the corporate-fascist EU then why would corbyn be assisting them in achieving that?

if the establishment wants to silence any dissent of zionist activities including influence within british politics then why would corbyn fold in the face of that?

Could it be that corbyn is not the messiah you and many others hope for? Maybe the only true answer is for people to start exercising their own personal power and consumer power and voting with their feet in everything they do to actually then shape the world themselves into something better?

How do you not see a contradiction with corbyn wanting the same things as the blairites namely to keep britain in the EU (through a customs union) and the crushing of any questioning of the influence of jewish power? The jewish leader of momentum that is the power behind corbyn is clearly spearheading the push to crush any questioning of jewish power so if corbyn gets into power then that is clearly what we can expect under his regime along with complete subservience to the EU

And if we are subservient to jewish power and to the corporate-fascist EU how do you expect to pass any policy that could potentially challenge their power? When exactly do you make that stand if that is indeed what you are planning to do?

Chris Williamson: "It seems they're trapped in a New Labour time warp"

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Old 26-02-2019, 11:15 AM   #403
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^ it isn't 'anti-semitism' that is the problem that the elites want to squash chris!

It is not some sort of irrational hatred towards jews that the elites want to crush

what they want to crush is anyone questioning the actions of zionist actors whether in crimes against the palestinean people or in attempts to influence politics in western countries

they just call that 'anti-semitism' so that they can claim that they are fighting racism when in fact what they are fighting is legitimate dissent against injust actions!

It isn't about jewish people in general it is about the influence of powerful people

Jon lansman is now speaking about 'conspiracy theories' but what he means is people speaking about the influence of people like the rothschilds or george soros so are you really trying to tell me that those people are not exerting their influence in various ways?

Are you really trying to tell me that?

if not then stop trying to rebrand the questioning of the actions of those parties as 'anti-semitism' as if it is some sort of dislike of a people based on their ethnicity when ethnicity has NOTHING to do with it

Its a BS cover story for their real intentions which is to silence dissent. Call it out for what it is
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Old 27-02-2019, 07:41 AM   #404
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Bernie Repeats CIA Talking Points On Venezuela

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Old 27-02-2019, 08:01 AM   #405
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Fake 'left' progressives and billionaire corporations join forces to destroy freedom of speech (because they are controlled by the same people)

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Old 28-02-2019, 10:36 AM   #406
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Gilad atzmon has said that jewish power is the ability to stop people speaking about jewish power. With that in mind lets consider this headline today:

MP Chris Williamson apologises over anti-Semitism remark as pressure mounts on Jeremy Corbyn to act

MP Chris Williamson apologises for saying Labour has been 'too apologetic' over anti-Semitism
Kate Proctor Political reporter
19 hours ago
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/poli...-a4078076.html

Lets just repeat that again.....he has now apologised for saying that labour has been too apologetic to jewish power

Clearly jewish power has made him apologise thereby proving his point that they are being made to constantly apologise to jewish power!

Who is the master and who is the slave in that equation?
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