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Old 18-04-2010, 05:22 PM   #21
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I love this board. Why do you think that big pharma, with all of the money and power you claim it to have, would pay someone to come on a message board to stoke up you lot? If they're as big and evil and rich as you say they are, they wouldn't give a fuck what a few people said on a message board.

Self important isn't the word, its delusion. Oh, and paranoia. Two words then.
Simple. Thier profits and livelihoods and are at stake.

Power and money is the only thing they are concerned with.

Great question though.


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Old 18-04-2010, 05:27 PM   #22
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Anyway, I'm not saying everything she's said or done is untrue. I'm sure she does some great stuff for her patients, but preaching unproven quacky mantras alongside real medicine isn't on...

No. Puting patients first isn't on.

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Old 18-04-2010, 05:31 PM   #23
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GMC stealing private medical records !

http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/ne...=4642#newspost

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"I have been investigated by the General Medical Council (GMC) since 2001. In 2007 all allegations against me were dropped with no case to answer and no restrictions on any of my practice. During this time the GMC have been taking the private and confidential NHS medical records of my patients without their knowledge or consent.

This has been done without informing patients, nor asking permission, without anonymising the notes, nor informing the patient of their legal right to object to this action. This has been a source of great distress to many patients. It has also been a great source of distress to me. My office has been inundated with telephone calls and emails which include many from distressed patients who do not know if their confidential NHS medical records have been taken by the GMC without their knowledge.

I am unable to reassure them they have not because I am not informed when the GMC take my patients NHS records. The only way you can find out if this has been done is to ask the GMC. A request letter under the auspices of the Data Protection Act is now published for the use of any of my worried patients".
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Old 18-04-2010, 06:23 PM   #24
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Then you're an idiot, and more of a sheep then the people you deride. Scepticism is great, but contrarism is stupid, and ultimately that's all you indulge in.
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I'm not an idiot and a sheep, and I don't indulge in anything.
I told you I would rather listen to Donald (or Daffy) Duck than take ANY modern medicine, and that still stands.
I will not even take paracetamol, I don't have fluoride toothpaste, and I avoid aspartame like the plague, and there is no way with vaccines either, so if that makes me a sheep then, meh.
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Old 19-04-2010, 09:27 AM   #25
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I love this board. Why do you think that big pharma, with all of the money and power you claim it to have, would pay someone to come on a message board to stoke up you lot? If they're as big and evil and rich as you say they are, they wouldn't give a fuck what a few people said on a message board.

Self important isn't the word, its delusion. Oh, and paranoia. Two words then.
I don't know if they do or not but I do know there is something very odd going on with an unfounded agenda against dr myhill. She has not been told what the allegations are and has not been allowed to defend herself.

That is pretty corrupt of the GMC

I think they are worried that more and more people are going to find out the degree they have been lied too, and what with the info that thimeserol ingredient in vaccine causes mitochondrial disorders, they do not want people connecting that information, especially as Hannah Poling and others have been awarded MMR vaccine damages and also had a mito disorder

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http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/con...l~jumptype=rss

http://stanford.wellsphere.com/autis...thology/742932




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Mitochondrial dysfunction, impaired oxidative-reduction activity, degeneration, and death in human neuronal and fetal cells induced by low-level exposure to thimerosal and other metal compounds
Authors: D. A. Geier a; P. G. King b; M. R. Geier c



Thimerosal (ethylmercurithiosalicylic acid), an ethylmercury (EtHg)-releasing compound (49.55% mercury (Hg)), was used in a range of medical products for more than 70 years. Of particular recent concern, routine administering of Thimerosal-containing biologics/childhood vaccines have become significant sources of Hg exposure for some fetuses/infants. This study was undertaken to investigate cellular damage among in vitro human neuronal (SH-SY-5Y neuroblastoma and 1321N1 astrocytoma) and fetal (nontransformed) model systems using cell vitality assays and microscope-based digital image capture techniques to assess potential damage induced by Thimerosal and other metal compounds (aluminum (Al) sulfate, lead (Pb)(II) acetate, methylmercury (MeHg) hydroxide, and mercury (Hg)(II) chloride) where the cation was reported to exert adverse effects on developing cells. Thimerosal-associated cellular damage was also evaluated for similarity to pathophysiological findings observed in patients diagnosed with autistic disorders (ADs). Thimerosal-induced cellular damage as evidenced by concentration- and time-dependent mitochondrial damage, reduced oxidative-reduction activity, cellular degeneration, and cell death in the in vitro human neuronal and fetal model systems studied. Thimerosal at low nanomolar (nM) concentrations induced significant cellular toxicity in human neuronal and fetal cells. Thimerosal-induced cytoxicity is similar to that observed in AD pathophysiologic studies. Thimerosal was found to be significantly more toxic than the other metal compounds examined. Future studies need to be conducted to evaluate additional mechanisms underlying Thimerosal-induced cellular damage and assess potential co-exposures to other compounds that may increase or decrease Thimerosal-mediated toxicity.
Keywords: autism; glial; lead; mercury; mercuric; neurodevelopmental

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Old 19-04-2010, 09:27 AM   #26
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GMC stealing private medical records !

http://www.theoneclickgroup.co.uk/ne...=4642#newspost

From Dr Myhill.
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"I have been investigated by the General Medical Council (GMC) since 2001. In 2007 all allegations against me were dropped with no case to answer and no restrictions on any of my practice. During this time the GMC have been taking the private and confidential NHS medical records of my patients without their knowledge or consent.

This has been done without informing patients, nor asking permission, without anonymising the notes, nor informing the patient of their legal right to object to this action. This has been a source of great distress to many patients. It has also been a great source of distress to me. My office has been inundated with telephone calls and emails which include many from distressed patients who do not know if their confidential NHS medical records have been taken by the GMC without their knowledge.

I am unable to reassure them they have not because I am not informed when the GMC take my patients NHS records. The only way you can find out if this has been done is to ask the GMC. A request letter under the auspices of the Data Protection Act is now published for the use of any of my worried patients".
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Old 19-04-2010, 11:01 AM   #27
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It beggars belief that Prof Michael Sharpe, who called ME/CFS patients

"the undeserving sick of our society and our health service.”

was awarded the Psychiatric Academic of the Year award for his
'dedication to enhancing psychiatry's relevance and reputation amongst medical colleagues, and mentoring the next generation of psychiatrists' and yet Dr Myhill is called before the GMC.

http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/Quotes_...ike_Sharpe.htm
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Old 19-04-2010, 11:11 AM   #28
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It beggars belief that Prof Michael Sharpe, who called ME/CFS patients

"the undeserving sick of our society and our health service.”

was awarded the Psychiatric Academic of the Year award for his
Oh i'd believe it.
When it comes to the medical industry, nothing much shocks me any more.

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'dedication to enhancing psychiatry's relevance and reputation amongst medical colleagues, and mentoring the next generation of psychiatrists'
Translated:-
'His dedication to brainwashing more brainwashers with the brainwashing forced downwards from the shadowy satanic top levels of the insidiously corrupt and evil farce of a medical industry"
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Old 19-04-2010, 11:15 AM   #29
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The person who really should be struck of for harming people is Simon Wesley the person who thinks CFS is psychiatric and CBT and graded excersise is suitable for all CFS patients and has made a very many people a lot worse. He also considers it a depressive illness for which SSRI are prescribed which may make mito disorders worse but as he is being funded by the pharmaceutical companies such as GSK, there is not much chance of that.

He also thinks Gulf War syndrome is a psychological illness, rather than squalene poisoning or depleted uranium poisoning

What double standards and what a waste of tax payers money on therapies that do not work

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Old 19-04-2010, 12:28 PM   #30
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Here is Sarah Myhill paper on mitochondrial disorders and CFS.

http://sacfs.asn.au/download/IJCEM8120012.pdf

It was published in the International Journal of Clinical Experimental Medicine.

http://www.ijcem.com/

The protocols she uses are based on this research and other Doctors /professors research.

There are many doctors around the world who use these protocols
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Old 19-04-2010, 12:29 PM   #31
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This issue isn't about her treatment of CFS. It's about her spouting other things on her website that are scientifically unsound and potentially dangerous.
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Old 19-04-2010, 12:39 PM   #32
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This issue isn't about her treatment of CFS. It's about her spouting other things on her website that are scientifically unsound and potentially dangerous.
You don't mean stuff like:-

"the thimerosal in these vaccines is completely safe...we've tested them"

or

"there is no link between vaccines and autism"

or

"we don't know how this pig virus got into these vaccines...honestly"
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Old 19-04-2010, 02:06 PM   #33
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another doctor says mitochondria dysfuntion in children may be the reason for children being damaged by vaccines. no wonder they want rid of Dr Myhill

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.c.../docsmmrfears/

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Fresh fears for the safety of MMR vaccinations will be raised this week with a claim that more than 3,000 British babies could be at risk of autism and even death each year.

The claim centres on a condition that affects one in 200 people.

In a new edition of his book, The Truth About Vaccines, Dr Richard Halvorsen collates the latest studies that suggest children with the condition have developed autism after jabs.

The London-based doctor, who offers parents single jabs as an alternative to MMR, said:

“If we could find susceptible children we could prevent them from being damaged by vaccines. At the moment we don’t know how many children are at risk…It seems to me the establishment are just scared to utter any breath that vaccines can be a problem.”

The condition, mitochondrial dysfunction, describes the failure of parts of the victim’s cells which produce energy. A recent Newcastle University study found at least one in 200 people harbours a mitochondrial mutation.

Those affected may not know they have the condition. However, research has found that vaccines can have a devastating impact on sufferers. Last year, the US Government agreed compensation for 10-year-old Hannah Poling, having conceded out of court that her autism was linked to a series of jabs in July 2000 at 19 months.

Her father, a leading neurologist, later discovered that she had mitochondrial dysfunction.
Hannah’s case is part of a 5000-case multi-party action before the US Vaccines Court, a body funded by a 75 cent levy on vaccines in the US.

Hannah’s lawyer Jim Moody said:

“For the Government to concede the vaccine was to blame should be a call to urgent action on behalf of both our governments to fund research.”

In another case, British toddler Harriet Moore suffered fits, became clingy and eventually died in the arms of parents Sarah and Pat Moore six weeks after receiving an MMR jab in 1998. They discovered she had mitochondrial dysfuncion
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So, you don't deny you are being paid for your contributions then ?

And, your reply ?

Still I await.

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And, your reply ?

Still I await.

No, I'm not.
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No, I'm not.
Citation needed.
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No, I'm not.
Why so coy ?

Who pays your wages ?
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Come over to the 'light side' winey.... we need people like you.

Come on...ya know ya wanna...
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No, I'm not.
So do you work for the pharmaceutical funded industry in some way ie medical profession, research or another area

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So do you work for the pharmaceutical funded industry in some way ie medical profession, research or another area
Not everyone who works in medicine or research works for a pharma company, directly or otherwise. And my profession has no bearing on my arguments.
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