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Old 28-08-2013, 07:36 AM   #1
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Default We have been fooled, in the spiritual world.

I was never a real new age type, I have my Crystals and some amulets but I never went in for the ascended master's or Channeled info, had a Ramtha book once, but didn't buy into the, "World is going to end" fear porn.

Deep down I have the feeling we are all one, one part of creation ,but wasn't sucked into the lightworker fight the darkness theory.


I'm glad I didn't.

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'Planet Earth and much of our corner of the universe has been under a spell for a very long time, a spell which casts doubt within our minds about whether or not we are connected with the Infinite Source of all creation.The spell causes us to feel alone, vulnerable and isolated – cast out from the Heavenly Realms into a cruel, dog-eat-dog world. This spell is pure fiction, a deception of the highest order, but it has taken hold deeply on this and other worlds.


Intrinsic within this holographic spell is the notion that duality and polarity are natural aspects of life, and that we must serve one side of duality or the other. This elegantly simple binary imprint has become so prominent that we have lost sight of the larger holographic spell that spawned it. Indeed, we have lost sight of the hologram all together, and come to believe that it is the sum total of reality.


Humans have been conditioned to worship the holographic deception and the agents that perpetuate it. This hologram has been called Maya by the Hindus, and the Gnostics referred to it as the Corrupt Demiurge. I find this term a highly accurate description, and from the point forward I will refer to it as the corrupt demiurge.'
http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/20...-light-worker/

The Archons have been fooling us all along.
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Old 28-08-2013, 08:05 AM   #2
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i have recently realised everyone is right

its your universe, you decide how you want it!

i dont think anyone is being fooled, the key is to understand yourself more and focus on that and how you can change, thats how we change the world!

those people who u say are suckered into ideas are just following a feeling they can resonate to make a better vibration around them which effets the past and the future

i dont give this archons theory much time and i dont let it effect me, i wish others would do the same

where do you put your focus?

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Old 28-08-2013, 08:15 AM   #3
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Majorlee is correct in my opinion.

Icke says something along the lines of 'you can't change the outside word, you change from within and outside world changes to follow suite.'





I think this thread by from swamideva says a hell of a lot.http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250141

And this one by getagrip is very significant also http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=254646

There are many more threads that point us in the right direction. Have a browse around the threads.

Peace, love, harmony and wisdom

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Old 28-08-2013, 02:28 PM   #4
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Silent the New Age religion is not new age at all, but Old Age. When I was in the Netherlands I experimented with my ex friend. I moved to England and had to go to work for my very survival, but my ex friend stayed in the military and lost her mind a little bit every day so now none is left. The last contact I had with her was her screaming at me and telling me not to take care of my mother, not to go to Venice to see my mother, not to try to resolve my problems with the dentist, complaining about my posture, and ending it all by telling me that she had a strong personality and she was a transcended being. Anybody who follows the New Age has that kind of end to look forward to.
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Old 28-08-2013, 08:29 PM   #5
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I was never a real new age type, I have my Crystals and some amulets but I never went in for the ascended master's or Channeled info, had a Ramtha book once, but didn't buy into the, "World is going to end" fear porn.

Deep down I have the feeling we are all one, one part of creation ,but wasn't sucked into the lightworker fight the darkness theory.


I'm glad I didn't.



http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/20...-light-worker/

The Archons have been fooling us all along.
Great post but I was somewhat distracted when I thought there was a small spider crawling round on the top left corner of my PC moniter.
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Old 28-08-2013, 08:58 PM   #6
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I was never a real new age type, I have my Crystals and some amulets but I never went in for the ascended master's or Channeled info, had a Ramtha book once, but didn't buy into the, "World is going to end" fear porn.

Deep down I have the feeling we are all one, one part of creation ,but wasn't sucked into the lightworker fight the darkness theory.


I'm glad I didn't.



http://www.ascensionhelp.com/blog/20...-light-worker/

The Archons have been fooling us all along.
Good post ............but a bit of old news.

icke exposes the same thing in his last book!
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Old 29-08-2013, 09:01 AM   #7
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i have recently realised everyone is right

its your universe, you decide how you want it!

i dont think anyone is being fooled, the key is to understand yourself more and focus on that and how you can change, thats how we change the world!

those people who u say are suckered into ideas are just following a feeling they can resonate to make a better vibration around them which effets the past and the future

i dont give this archons theory much time and i dont let it effect me, i wish others would do the same

where do you put your focus?

I get your post on where we put our focus and I do agree too.

If we understand ourselves and see us as part of the whole then we can escape the matrix of this planet.

There is no fight, the fight is within.

Once you change your reality or how we perceive our reality then those negative things dont have so much of an effect, but even that can be a mis perception because the collective consciousness of the planet is still caught up in this created prison planet.

I wouldn't dismiss the Gnostics so readily as what has been put out there about the gnostics and the Nag Hammadi text is corrupted, by the early priesthood. They turned it into a text about Jesus and it has nothing to do with Jesus.

I'll post some stuff from John Lamb Lash who did an indepth study on these Coptic writings.
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Great post but I was somewhat distracted when I thought there was a small spider crawling round on the top left corner of my PC moniter.

lol, sorry man,
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Old 29-08-2013, 09:05 AM   #9
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Good post ............but a bit of old news.

icke exposes the same thing in his last book!
Thank you seanx, I haven't read the latest book cause I can't afford it

I can see why he put this on the headline page. Thought provoking.
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lol, sorry man,
I'm just glad it's kept within that invisible force-field. If it could roam all over the screen it would drive me crazy.
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Old 29-08-2013, 09:09 AM   #11
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Majorlee is correct in my opinion.

Icke says something along the lines of 'you can't change the outside word, you change from within and outside world changes to follow suite.'





I think this thread by from swamideva says a hell of a lot.http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=250141

And this one by getagrip is very significant also http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=254646

There are many more threads that point us in the right direction. Have a browse around the threads.

Peace, love, harmony and wisdom

I had a brief look at one of those thread and will have a good read when I get some times, thanks.

btw, I just cut out the pics only because it would take up space, but there there and I agree.
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Old 29-08-2013, 09:12 AM   #12
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Silent the New Age religion is not new age at all, but Old Age. When I was in the Netherlands I experimented with my ex friend. I moved to England and had to go to work for my very survival, but my ex friend stayed in the military and lost her mind a little bit every day so now none is left. The last contact I had with her was her screaming at me and telling me not to take care of my mother, not to go to Venice to see my mother, not to try to resolve my problems with the dentist, complaining about my posture, and ending it all by telling me that she had a strong personality and she was a transcended being. Anybody who follows the New Age has that kind of end to look forward to.

Thank you for that insight. It's so easy for those that have been conditioned into believing they are right and everyone else is wrong to start to become the very thing they were agaisnt in the first place.
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New Age preaches Oneness as much as it preaches lightworkers. Whoever wrote that blog post must not have gone very far with New Age.

The problem is, like Christianity, there is no coherence to their stated beliefs and principles, which are frustratingly contradictory, but because they only come up in specific contexts, they don't hear themselves when they state a direct contradiction to something else they've stated. This is one example, but there are many. Just like Christians. I believe it is some kind of addiction they indulge in somehow, or else they would be as confused as I am when I hear them talk. They say the same things over and over again, so sooner or later, if they are aware of themselves, they would have to hear their contradictions and wonder, themselves, what they mean.

Oh, one of my favorite New Age contradictions is the preaching of 100% responsibility, then blaming what they call "energy vampires" for making them feel depressed.

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New Age preaches Oneness as much as it preaches lightworkers. Whoever wrote that blog post must not have gone very far with New Age.

The problem is, like Christianity, there is no coherence to their stated beliefs and principles, which are frustratingly contradictory, but because they only come up in specific contexts, they don't hear themselves when they state a direct contradiction to something else they've stated. This is one example, but there are many. Just like Christians. I believe it is some kind of addiction they indulge in somehow, or else they would be as confused as I am when I hear them talk. They say the same things over and over again, so sooner or later, if they are aware of themselves, they would have to hear their contradictions and wonder, themselves, what they mean.

Oh, one of my favorite New Age contradictions is the preaching of 100% responsibility, then blaming what they call "energy vampires" for making them feel depressed.
The problem is there is no real meaning as to what 'new age' refers to.

And so any 'new' idea or an old truth expressed in a new modern way gets classified as new age'.

For example, is Icke 'new age'? Gregg Braden ? Bruce Lipton?

Go to a lot of Christan fundi sites (or read their posts here) and Icke is proclaimed as the high devil of
the 'new age' because he intuits that we are all God/Infinite Consciousness at the human level of awareness.

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i have recently realised everyone is right

its your universe, you decide how you want it!

i dont think anyone is being fooled, the key is to understand yourself more and focus on that and how you can change, thats how we change the world!

those people who u say are suckered into ideas are just following a feeling they can resonate to make a better vibration around them which effets the past and the future

i dont give this archons theory much time and i dont let it effect me, i wish others would do the same

where do you put your focus?

Your picture is right, we don't fight for peace, we peace for peace.

We fight for justice and struggle for freedom.

But peace for peace.
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New Age preaches Oneness as much as it preaches lightworkers. Whoever wrote that blog post must not have gone very far with New Age.

The problem is, like Christianity, there is no coherence to their stated beliefs and principles, which are frustratingly contradictory, but because they only come up in specific contexts, they don't hear themselves when they state a direct contradiction to something else they've stated. This is one example, but there are many. Just like Christians. I believe it is some kind of addiction they indulge in somehow, or else they would be as confused as I am when I hear them talk. They say the same things over and over again, so sooner or later, if they are aware of themselves, they would have to hear their contradictions and wonder, themselves, what they mean.

Oh, one of my favorite New Age contradictions is the preaching of 100% responsibility, then blaming what they call "energy vampires" for making them feel depressed.
Energy vampires exist
Just not in the glamorous true blood sense of the world

There are people who literally drain the life force out of people..
Friends spouces family etc
Anyone who will allow them to do it.. Facilitators

They do cause depression on the weak willed and can even make people take their own life

They get a kick out of the power is my experience of them, even if they try to come across as innocent at first

Sociopathic energy vampires
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Energy vampires exist
Just not in the glamorous true blood sense of the world

There are people who literally drain the life force out of people..
Friends spouces family etc
Anyone who will allow them to do it.. Facilitators

They do cause depression on the weak willed and can even make people take their own life

They get a kick out of the power is my experience of them, even if they try to come across as innocent at first

Sociopathic energy vampires
I don't believe this for one minute. Everyone creates their own reactions to problems. If there's someone in your life (and you are not a minor) it's on you if you can't deal with them.
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The problem is there is no real meaning as to what 'new age' refers to.

And so any 'new' idea or an old truth expressed in a new modern way gets classified as new age'.

For example, is Icke 'new age'? Gregg Braden ? Bruce Lipton?

Go to a lot of Christan fundi sites (or read their posts here) and Icke is proclaimed as the high devil of
the 'new age' because he intuits that we are all God/Infinite Consciousness at the human level of awareness.
I think it's more that he's a little disingenuous about crediting sources for his material. I think this is a personality flaw that has nothing to do with anything except the fact that he is an excellent presenter and not an academic.
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