The Cult of NATO/ATON

[lightgiver]

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization or NATO French: Organisation du traité de l'Atlantique Nord (OTAN)), also called the (North) Atlantic Alliance, is an intergovernmental military alliance based on the North Atlantic Treaty which was signed on 4 April 1949. The NATO headquarters are in Brussels, Belgium, and the organization constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party.



The Treaty of Brussels, signed on 17 March 1948 by Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, and the United Kingdom, is considered the precursor to the NATO agreement. The treaty and the Soviet Berlin Blockade led to the creation of the Western European Union's Defence Organization in September 1948. However, participation of the United States was thought necessary to counter the military power of the USSR, and talks for a new military alliance began almost immediately.

These talks resulted in the North Atlantic Treaty, signed in Washington, D.C. on 4 April 1949. It included the five Treaty of Brussels states plus the United States, Canada, Portugal, Italy, Norway, Denmark and Iceland. Popular support for the Treaty was not unanimous; some Icelanders commenced a pro-neutrality, anti-membership riot in March 1949.

The members agreed that an armed attack against any one of them in Europe or North America would be considered an attack against them all. Consequently they agreed that, if an armed attack occurred, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence, would assist the member being attacked, taking such action as it deemed necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.


The 11 September attacks caused NATO to invoke its collective defence article for the first time.

http://forum.davidicke.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5

[tinyint]

to keep the Americans in, the Russians out and the Germans down.

Lord Ismay, first NATO secretary General

Nothing has changed.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

Nothing has changed.

do you live in the UK ?

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

do you live in the UK ?

I had lived in UK, yes.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

I had lived in UK, yes.

So you will be aware how much nicer it is in germany to live than the UK.

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

So you will be aware how much nicer it is in germany to live than the UK.

It would be even much nicer if the occupiers finally went home and signed a peace treaty with us, restoring full sovereignty and thus the Reich.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

It would be even much nicer if the occupiers finally went home and signed a peace treaty with us, restoring full sovereignty and thus the Reich.

Which occupiers would that be ?

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

Which occupiers would that be ?

Can you show me a peace treaty signed between the German Reich and the US/UK/FR/SU, basically with the UN?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165685

And that before you will associate nato with the nazis?

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

can you show me a peace treaty signed between the german reich and the us/uk/fr/su, basically with the un?

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=165685

and that before you will associate nato with the nazis?

the english are germans

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

the english are germans

It didn't prevent them to go to war with their brothers, incited by evil Churchill and Vansittart, to name a few.

Some quotes?

You escaped my question, or does the link answer your question? Your are well aware of the answers.

[QUOTE=tinyint;1060074642]We have to agree to slightly disagree.
The talmudic banksters use international socialism/communism as their tool towards global government.

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All masonic symbols.

After the renewed refusal of my peace offer in January 1940 by the then British Prime Minister and the clique which supported or else dominated him, it became clear that this war-against all reasons of common, sense and necessity-must be fought to its end.

Apart from this, I cannot be insulted by Roosevelt for I consider him mad just as Wilson was. I don't need to mention what this man has done for years in the same way against Japan. First he incites war then falsifies the causes, then odiously wraps himself in a cloak of Christian hypocrisy and slowly but surely leads mankind to war, not without calling God to witness the honesty of his attack-in the approved manner of an old Freemason.

That was the time when England did not go about begging others for help, but still magnanimously promised help to everyone. This has since changed In those days I made proposals to Poland. Now that events have taken a course different from the one we wished, I must say that it was indeed Providence that prevented the acceptance of my offer at the time. This conspiracy of democratic Jews and Free Masons dragged Europe into war two years ago. Arms had to decide.

Since then a struggle has been taking place between truth and lies and, as always, this war will end in the victory for truth. In other words, whatever lies British propaganda, international world Jewry and its democratic accomplices may concoct they will not change historical facts.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....&postcount=182


http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....8&postcount=89

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

It didn't prevent them to go to war with their brothers, incited by evil Churchill and Vansittart, to name a few.

Some quotes?

You escaped my question, or does the link answer your question? Your are well aware of the answers.

You mean brainwashed into going to war,I have answered all your questions



http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....postcount=1712

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

You mean brainwashed into going to war,I have answered all your questions



http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....postcount=1712

After long months when I was forced to keep silent, despite heavy concerns, the time has come when I can finally speak openly.

When the German Reich received England’s declaration of war on 3 September 1939, the British attempted once again to frustrate any attempt to begin a consolidation, and thus a strengthening, of Europe by fighting the then strongest power on the Continent.

England formerly destroyed Spain through many wars.

For the same reason it waged its wars against Holland.

With the help of all of Europe it later fought France.

And around the turn of the century, it began to encircle the German Reich and it began the World War in 1914.

Germany was defeated in 1918 only because of its inner disunity. The results were terrible. After first hypocritically declaring to be fighting only against the Kaiser and his regime, they began the systematic destruction of the German Reich after the German army had laid down its arms. As the prophecy of a French statesman, who had said that there were twenty million Germans too many, began to be fulfilled through starvation, disease, or emigration, the National Socialist movement began building the unity of the German people, thereby preparing the rebirth of the Reich.

This new revival of our people from poverty, misery, and shameful contempt was a sign of a pure internal rebirth. England was not affected, much less threatened, by this. Nonetheless, it immediately renewed its hateful policy of encirclement against Germany. Both at home and abroad, we faced the plot we all know about between Jews and democrats, Bolshevists and reactionaries, all with the same goal: to prevent the establishment of a new people’s state, to plunge the Reich again into impotence and misery.

The hatred of this international world conspiracy was directed not only against us, but also against those peoples who also had been neglected by Fortune, who could earn their daily bread only through the hardest struggle. Italy and Japan above all, alongside Germany, were almost forbidden to enjoy their share of the wealth of the world. The alliance between these nations was, therefore, only an act of self-defense against a threatening, egotistical world coalition of wealth and power.

As early as 1936, according to the testimony of the American General Wood to a committee of the American House of Representatives, Churchill had said that Germany was becoming too strong again, and that it therefore had to be destroyed.

In summer 1939, England thought that the time had come to renew its attempts to destroy Germany by a policy of encirclement. Their method was to begin a campaign of lies. They declared that Germany threatened other peoples. They then provided an English guarantee of support and assistance, next, as in the World War, let them march against Germany.

Thus between May and August 1939, England succeeded in spreading the claim throughout the world that Germany directly threatened Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Finland, Bessarabia, and even the Ukraine. Some of these nations allowed themselves to be misled, accepting the promises of support that were offered, and thereby joined the new attempt to encircle Germany.

Under these circumstances, I believed that I was called by my conscience, and by the history of the German people, to assure not only these nations and their governments that these British accusations were untrue, but also to reassure the strongest power in the East through formal declarations that our interests did not conflict.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...173607&page=14

And I have given much input for you.
I am excited how you'll twist it to make it fit the thread purpose.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

http://forum.davidicke.com/showthrea...173607&page=14

And I have given much input for you.
I am excited how you'll twist it to make it fit the thread purpose.

TPTB will always turn people against one another,thats their job.


Blackadder - How did the war start? (eng sub)

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

TPTB will always turn people against one another,thats their job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk37T...yer_detailpage

Blackadder - How did the war start? (eng sub)

http://brd-schwindel.info/hitlers-kr...p-verschweigt/

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

http://brd-schwindel.info/hitlers-kr...p-verschweigt/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBnSM...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TahoRyK57k

Nice kilt



Adolf Hitler's aided Escape to Argentina

http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturesf/arg2.jpg

http://www.barilochenazi.com.ar/engl...troduction.htm

[tinyint]

LG, what is your point?

You pull out all the classic english history books.
Many of them ignore the british role.

The british establishment is reponsible for both world war, millions of dead people, the rise of the bolshevists, the war entry of US and the many cities literally annihilated.

Don't you think it is time to give the lame nazis a rest and focus on the real perpetrators? These are the same as Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. It will lead to the destruction of the jews, if we don't change our attitude towards history(or what they call history)

Why not focus what went on with Eichmann, Hagannah, Golda Meir? There is enough to uncover, without repeating the same old lies.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

LG, what is your point?

You pull out all the classic english history books.
Many of them ignore the british role.

The british establishment is reponsible for both world war, millions of dead people, the rise of the bolshevists, the war entry of US and the many cities literally annihilated.

Don't you think it is time to give the lame nazis a rest and focus on the real perpetrators. These are the same as Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya.

Why not focus what went on with Eichmann, Hagannah, Golda Meir? There is enough to uncover, without repeating the same old lies.

whats my point,what exactly is yours ,I have started a thread on the cult of nato and you are whining how hard done by the germans are, come and live where I live for a few weeks ,if you can hack it.

Believe you me the living in germany is well easy compared to the UK,unless you are a banker etc etc etc...

[tinyint]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

whats my point,what exactly is yours ,I have stated a thread on the cult of nato and you are whining how hard done by the germans are, come and live where I live for a few weeks ,if you can hack it.

Believe you me the living in germany is well easy compared to the UK,unless you are a banker etc etc etc...

I was just noticing the general direction of the thread.

I wondered why you didn't simply continue here...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=172246

[muzungu100]

Originally Posted by lightgiver

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization or NATO French: Organisation du traité de l'Atlantique Nord (OTAN)), also called the (North) Atlantic Alliance, is an intergovernmental military alliance based on the North Atlantic Treaty which was signed on 4 April 1949. The NATO headquarters are in Brussels, Belgium, and the organization constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party.



The Treaty of Brussels, signed on 17 March 1948 by Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, France, and the United Kingdom, is considered the precursor to the NATO agreement. The treaty and the Soviet Berlin Blockade led to the creation of the Western European Union's Defence Organization in September 1948. However, participation of the United States was thought necessary to counter the military power of the USSR, and talks for a new military alliance began almost immediately.

These talks resulted in the North Atlantic Treaty, signed in Washington, D.C. on 4 April 1949. It included the five Treaty of Brussels states plus the United States, Canada, Portugal, Italy, Norway, Denmark and Iceland. Popular support for the Treaty was not unanimous; some Icelanders commenced a pro-neutrality, anti-membership riot in March 1949.

The members agreed that an armed attack against any one of them in Europe or North America would be considered an attack against them all. Consequently they agreed that, if an armed attack occurred, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence, would assist the member being attacked, taking such action as it deemed necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.


The 11 September attacks caused NATO to invoke its collective defence article for the first time.

http://forum.davidicke.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5

Rather than just cutting and pasting your entire post from Wikipedia (without providing a link) it is considered civilised to at least write some of the post yourself. At the very least tell us that it is a cut and paste job.

[lightgiver]

Originally Posted by tinyint

I wondered why you didn't simply continue here...
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=172246

The Rise of The Fourth Reich.

http://forum.davidicke.com/showpost....5&postcount=41

Originally Posted by boots

I think there is pretty overwhelming evidence to say that there is a fourth Reich in America.

Operation Paperclip bought nazi scientist to work in the Military industrial complex, other's were assigned too NASA, then other Nazis were used in the CIA running programs such as MKULTRA.

All out total Nazism/Fascism would be to obvious and people would be shaken out of their slumber, they way to do it is like sticking a frog in a pot of cold water then bringing it to a slow boil.

But they did try the Fascist model once before in 1934.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJEQyEc0ulU

NATO and the United Nations (UN) share a commitment to maintaining international peace and security. The two organizations have been cooperating in this area since the early 1990s...

The headquarters of the United Nations is a distinctive complex in New York City...The NATO headquarters are in Brussels, Belgium...The headquarters of the European Union is in Brussels, the capital city of Belgium.


The United Nations and NATO

Which security and for whom?

by Hans Christof von Sponeck, former UN Assistant Secretary General

The world the UN advocates looks good on paper.1 In June 1945, the Charter of the United Nations was signed by 51 member states. Several years later, the two great conventions for civil, political, economic, social and cultural rights came into being, and in subsequent years, important conventions on torture, genocide, women’s and children’s rights followed. After long negotiations, the UN member states came to a consensus at the end of 2008 on a cluster bomb treaty – unfortunately containing limitations – on which several countries insisted, including Germany.

The existence of extensive international law shows that governments in all parts of the world know what is important for human security and what must be protected.

And yet, since 1945 international law has been continuously broken. Basic rights to food, health, housing, education, work, freedom of opinion have remained unattainable for many. Wars have been (and are) carried on, in utter violation of the United Nations Charter, e.g. against Yugoslavia, Iraq and in Palestine. Torture is practiced, genocide carried out, weapons treaties ignored, the environment robbed of irreplaceable treasures. Uncontrolled financial transactions and economic activities and greed have given rise to an unprecedented crisis of worldwide dimensions. Pragmatism flourishes while moral principles are shunted aside. “Ethics” has become a foreign word. Political lying prevails. The gap between the rich and the poor grows wider. The life and survival chances of people have become yet more unequal. Behind all this lie such significant causes as the lack of political will to speak out in defense of the community of the majority as opposed to the welfare of the few and the resulting neglect of rights and the rule of law. The United Nations strains to carrying out its mandate.

It should thus come as no surprise that the twenty-first century was born under the sign of confrontation and of worldwide, hypocritical denial. Western alliances such as NATO are being challenged by new alliances with weighty members such as Russia, China and India. The key word here is “rearrangement”. Dag Hammarskjoeld, the great man of the United Nations, in 1964 shortly before his death expressed his great concern that “ways out of the narrow, matted jungle in the struggle for honor, power and advantage” must be found. Looking back at the beginning of 2009, one can see that since the founding of the United Nations in 1945, two systems, communism and capitalism have collapsed. Maximization of profit hand-in-hand with dishonesty and ethnocentrism are among the causes.

Originally Posted by boots

It is totalism, those points want to keep everyone in a 'box' so that control of people can easily be contained and monitored and dictated too.

Socialism on a global scale will only cause divisions. it pits one nation against another. TPTB set up the different political systems to give you a choice, you dont have a choice, they own you.

None of those points are giving any basic Human right's.

They may give the impression of safety but as the OP says the Germans thought Hitler was doing the right thing when in fact he was having his own NWO just as America's has it's own NWO.

Once the strength of the trading blocks are up and running then it will be a global NWO. A fourth Reich

http://www.currentconcerns.ch/index.php?id=711




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