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Old 24-08-2013, 03:42 AM   #41
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If you read the Forum Rules and Etiquette that you agreed to whrpeh joining, there is a section on Conspiratainment. That should make it clear.

Incidentally I have merged both threads on this.
I don't see it. Still confused tbh??
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Old 24-08-2013, 07:21 AM   #42
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The forum Rules and Etiquette, that you agreed to abide by when joining, are at the top of every subforum

I have removed a couple of things that fall into that category and will reopen the thread. I suggest everyone read said rules and try not to say anything that is against them. Basically our 'rules' are about respect, respect for other members and other researchers.

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Old 24-08-2013, 08:42 AM   #43
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As for the topic on Jesse: He's just an old goat. He's too cranky to accept more than a few hard truths, the rest ruffle him the wrong way and he's not going to enjoy his little vacation down in Mexico (he ran away from the U.S. like a coward, what a SOLDIER! ) - if he has to contemplate things that are beyond his understanding.

Icke is in a different league from people like Ventura, or even AJ. AJ was a typical doofus slagging Icke for the longest time and now he has no choice but to tip-toe around the constant admission that Icke was right about most everything.

When Venture comes on AJ's show - it doesn't even matter how much AJ agress with Jesse, Jesse will respond to questions in a defensive, loud manner.

If AJ agrees with a point of Jesse's - Jesse will respond:

"YEAH BUT THAT'S NOT EVEN IT, ALEX - What I'm trying to say is ____"...

Jesse is one of those men with whom you can never be correct, or never make a good point. They aren't worth the time of day, their head is just lodged too far up inside themselves.

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this is aimed at the people slagging off ventura and jones - you're on the DI forum and you really wish these sort of people weren't around at the moment, this the exact time we need loud voices hopefully waking people up to how the world is being run, do you disagree with every word they say? I think you're too picky, beggars can't be choosers, Go back to the msm if that's what you were happy with.
They know what they're doing...

Anti-Icke posters have been here for a plenty long time and they can't be gotten rid of without making the forum look bad.

But yeah, it's clearly ridiculous to come onto the message board of a site based around a researcher and spend all day talking shit on that researcher and snorting during discussions.
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Old 24-08-2013, 08:53 AM   #44
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let's all criticise Ventura for daring to ask Icke some questions about something that sounds unbelievable.
I agree, let's.

Ventura was taking the easy, cheap route, tackling a topic that is near the epitome of paranormal but actually has a LOT to it, and more researchers than Icke are involved.

This whole pinning reps on Icke thing alone is WRONG and anyone who does it has outed themselves as having no real interest in getting to the bottom of things. If they really looked into the topic of reps they would understand how deep the rabbit hole goes, and when people DO investigate they always end up coming BACK to Icke with newfound curiosity and a "holy shit, this might be real" expression about them.

It happened to AJ, but again, even AJ is a notch or two above Jesse when it comes to the powers of comprehension.
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Old 24-08-2013, 08:54 AM   #45
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If we're not allowed to ask, enquiry, or probe opinions on this site of all places, then surely you humans are truly fucked?
"Us humans"? What exactly are you?

After having had to look the word "conspiratainment" up on the internet, I wonder how to write on this subject without breaking the rules, but I'll try to write without doing so.

I initially was pleased when I first saw Jesse Ventura's shows on YouTube. He definitely has a strange way and his personality does not manifest outwardly in a way that I can easily stomach, likewise his shows are deeply drenched in suspicion-evoking sensationalism to appeal to TV viewers, but I liked his direct, in-your-face approach and was impressed by his disregard for the mainstream. I noticed, however, that he seemed to be having difficulty, by which I mean was completely incapable of, connecting the dots even between his own shows to put the different conspiracy theories together, as it seemed obvious that some of them, for sure, were linked and related.

It is utter tripe that Ventura's so-called interview with Icke was "American communication." I think that anyone with a normal emotional intelligence quotient could feel instantly that Ventura had not an iota of interest in anything Icke had to say or explain on his theory, and that Ventura was hell-bent on one thing--to discredit and humiliate David Icke--mission accomplished. That was the most horrible "interview" I have ever seen. Even Zionist news anchors manage to hold back their agendas with more grace than Ventura did.

What I loved, is that in a much later episode Ventura did (I believe it was called Skinwalker), he was investigating a conspiracy theory which revealed ET presence and activity on Earth. I am certain it is only a matter of time before David Icke is proven completely right. Ventura really owes David Icke a sincere, heart-felt apology.

The episode in question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpkTTNKh26Q

I want to point out again, that Ventura did not ask David Icke any question that he wanted answered. His questions were rhetorical and intended specifically to humiliate and discredit David Icke. David Icke has never had any quarrels with answering questions. He has spent the last two decades doing that.

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Old 24-08-2013, 08:57 AM   #46
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One last thing (sorry to ramble)-

If Ventura cared to face the truth he would have played the Michael Chertoff videos.

Reps have more or less pulled their own masks right off at this point, and the Chertoff video might be the most prominent example. It's bone-chilling, it's real, it's NOT human, it's NOT fake, and it has gone untouched. You will simply never see it shown on national TV because seeing a second pair of eyeballs blink inside the skull of a politician is enough to cause mass hysteria.

Even now I'm sure watching the youtube video immediately lands you on a list somewhere.
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Old 24-08-2013, 10:19 AM   #47
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Ventura...

The episode about the FEMA camps was an eye opener. I think he is trying to wake people up but the TV network in which it is broadcast is part of the illuminati control system.
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Old 24-08-2013, 10:58 AM   #48
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angelflow,good comment.
We can all bang on about the styles of AJ,JV and DI but that's not important.
We can also bang on about what aspects of what they say is rubbish and why.
But again that's not important.
I check out stuff from all of them and i don't agree with all of it but that's not the point.
It's what we do like that's important.
Alex apologized for his punch bowl remark about David and i don't care why,i care that he did.
Alex also says he's tried to patch things up between Jesse and David.
I wished it could be and personally i think that ball is in Jesse's court.
All three of them talk of humanity and what divides us.
All three of them could benefit from cooperation and mutual respect
I just wished that this could be achieved for the greater good.
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Old 24-08-2013, 04:26 PM   #49
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The forum Rules and Etiquette, that you agreed to abide by when joining, are at the top of every subforum

I have removed a couple of things that fall into that category and will reopen the thread. I suggest everyone read said rules and try not to say anything that is against them. Basically our 'rules' are about respect, respect for other members and other researchers.
apologies. I was talking about i didn't see the conflict of the rules... maybe one or two posts, but not from my initial questions...
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Old 24-08-2013, 04:28 PM   #50
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"Us humans"? What exactly are you?

After having had to look the word "conspiratainment" up on the internet, I wonder how to write on this subject without breaking the rules, but I'll try to write without doing so.

I initially was pleased when I first saw Jesse Ventura's shows on YouTube. He definitely has a strange way and his personality does not manifest outwardly in a way that I can easily stomach, likewise his shows are deeply drenched in suspicion-evoking sensationalism to appeal to TV viewers, but I liked his direct, in-your-face approach and was impressed by his disregard for the mainstream. I noticed, however, that he seemed to be having difficulty, by which I mean was completely incapable of, connecting the dots even between his own shows to put the different conspiracy theories together, as it seemed obvious that some of them, for sure, were linked and related.

It is utter tripe that Ventura's so-called interview with Icke was "American communication." I think that anyone with a normal emotional intelligence quotient could feel instantly that Ventura had not an iota of interest in anything Icke had to say or explain on his theory, and that Ventura was hell-bent on one thing--to discredit and humiliate David Icke--mission accomplished. That was the most horrible "interview" I have ever seen. Even Zionist news anchors manage to hold back their agendas with more grace than Ventura did.

What I loved, is that in a much later episode Ventura did (I believe it was called Skinwalker), he was investigating a conspiracy theory which revealed ET presence and activity on Earth. I am certain it is only a matter of time before David Icke is proven completely right. Ventura really owes David Icke a sincere, heart-felt apology.

The episode in question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpkTTNKh26Q

I want to point out again, that Ventura did not ask David Icke any question that he wanted answered. His questions were rhetorical and intended specifically to humiliate and discredit David Icke. David Icke has never had any quarrels with answering questions. He has spent the last two decades doing that.
the asshole in me would like to say that i rescinded my species decades ago.... but being ' only human' it was more of a tongue in cheek comment, as I've been in the mod's naughty corner...


p.s. great reply and thanks for the input....
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Old 24-08-2013, 04:41 PM   #51
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Old 04-10-2013, 05:35 PM   #52
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One of the effective ways to obscure the truth, at the same time, make other people who talk truth look absurd, is to hire clowns to deliver the message first, or even become the pied piper to lead people astray. That way, you will be associated with clowns for talking about-- reality, outside the official version of reality. Is this what is happening with Ventura in your opinion?

There was a recent announcement that he may run for president, with Howard Stern. Now you have a wealthy flamboyant television entertainment wrestler and actor, and a radio shock jock also known for his role as Fartman.





Now, regardless of what they say, what's the message that really comes across? What are your thoughts?
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I find it funny that people are calling Ventrua an "egomaniac" just because David got angry at him... maybe you should think about why David got angry and started swearing at him like a child?

Jesse is, and has been, a type that requires incredible proof for him to believe something.

He probed into David's life and he got angry, maybe David has something to hide

Also, personally I find the fact that there is "reptilian-people who want to take over earth" or something quite hard to swallow too (no offense).

I have found no evidence whatso ever that Jesse is a disinformation agent - His shows on the TV actually were really good - although I've seen better acting in a porno
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Neither came out of the discussion with any credibility. They both looked stupid and immature, to be honest.

Having said that, I still respect Icke and his work, and I enjoy watching Ventura's programmes. Especially the one on JFK.

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I agree, let's.

Ventura was taking the easy, cheap route, tackling a topic that is near the epitome of paranormal but actually has a LOT to it, and more researchers than Icke are involved.

This whole pinning reps on Icke thing alone is WRONG and anyone who does it has outed themselves as having no real interest in getting to the bottom of things. If they really looked into the topic of reps they would understand how deep the rabbit hole goes, and when people DO investigate they always end up coming BACK to Icke with newfound curiosity and a "holy shit, this might be real" expression about them.

It happened to AJ, but again, even AJ is a notch or two above Jesse when it comes to the powers of comprehension.
I agree.

I believe there is more to the rep theory than many are ready to dismiss. Used to work in the City of London (Square Mile) and the Dragon/Serpent symbolism and Satanic symbols are everywhere. There's some really interesting videos on Youtube.
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Old 04-10-2013, 08:40 PM   #56
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i like listening to ventura, and watching his shows, but he was hypocritcal saying to david give me proof, and david says read the book.

yet only the other night i seen ventura on piers morgan show promoting his new book, and piers said who do you think killed the president (kennedy), and ventura said "i dont know, read my book".

pretty much same answer david gave.
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i like listening to ventura, and watching his shows, but he was hypocritcal saying to david give me proof, and david says read the book.

yet only the other night i seen ventura on piers morgan show promoting his new book, and piers said who do you think killed the president (kennedy), and ventura said "i dont know, read my book".

pretty much same answer david gave.
JV was on smash the set on RT this am - seemed more interested in pushing his book and getting stern on board re:running for POTUS


on a personal note, it was evident that he was 'shaking', slightly, at times, I sincerely hope he's not ill, as he didn't seem to be his normal, brash self?
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Jessie Venture don't give a fuck about exposing the truth. He gives a fuck about a pay check. David Icke got pissed-off because he's been through the same shit time and time again with people. They say they want to talk about this and that etc. He agrees to the interview, then they pull the old bait and switch on him.
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Jessie Venture don't give a fuck about exposing the truth. He gives a fuck about a pay check. David Icke got pissed-off because he's been through the same shit time and time again with people. They say they want to talk about this and that etc. He agrees to the interview, then they pull the old bait and switch on him.
And what makes David different?
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And what makes David different?
20+ years of actually researching the things he speaks about.
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