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Old 23-05-2017, 09:58 PM   #81
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... And while everyone was looking down watching the tv or their phone on the day after the Manchester bombing incident in the UK, up in the sky there was a sustained spraying attack in the Liverpool / St Helens / Wigan area from dawn until dusk... absolutely relentless.

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Old 31-05-2017, 11:11 AM   #82
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After a period of heavy rain and cloudy weather over the last week or so, the first bright and sunny morning in the North West UK gets ruined by early morning spraying from 06.30am. Total white-out by 09.00am...

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Old 17-07-2017, 11:45 AM   #83
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Here's a round-up of spray days here in the North West UK for June 2017...

14th June 2017
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149142...57683296700114

19th June2017
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149142...57682919410772

20th June 2017
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149142...57686110023785

22nd June 2017
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149142...57683678039271

26th June 2017
https://www.flickr.com/photos/149142...57683923566230

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Old 20-07-2017, 03:07 PM   #84
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Here's a round-up of spray days here in the North West UK for June 2017...
Please explain in your best analysis with evidence, why you think these are chemical trails and not the dead obvious condensation trails.
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Old 21-07-2017, 11:55 AM   #85
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"Chemtrails: The Shady Truth About Contrails"

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Old 21-07-2017, 02:12 PM   #86
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"Chemtrails: The Shady Truth About Contrails"

https://climateviewer.com/chemtrails/
Lots of words, no evidence. It seems to suggest that fuel by products other than condensation are the "chem" bits. Completely nothing to do with the actual claim that a systemic poisoning of the atmosphere is being carried out by chemical spraying in plane exhausts.

http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/
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Old 21-07-2017, 04:43 PM   #87
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Lots of words, no evidence. It seems to suggest that fuel by products other than condensation are the "chem" bits. Completely nothing to do with the actual claim that a systemic poisoning of the atmosphere is being carried out by chemical spraying in plane exhausts.

http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/
Plenty of evidence in the links. Why wouldn't fuel by-products be the 'chem' bit? The article proves that. Are you doubting yourself...maybe it just isn't hot gas and cold air, eh? Of course, now that you understand that the chemtrails are coming from the engines, you can consider why, can't you?
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Old 21-07-2017, 07:47 PM   #88
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Plenty of evidence in the links. Why wouldn't fuel by-products be the 'chem' bit? The article proves that. Are you doubting yourself...maybe it just isn't hot gas and cold air, eh? Of course, now that you understand that the chemtrails are coming from the engines, you can consider why, can't you?
Your article contradicts the conspiracy claim that they load up the fuel with poison to quell the masses.

The fuel additives get burnt up in the ignition There are by products far worse coming out the back of cars by the billion. It's hogwash.
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Your article contradicts the conspiracy claim that they load up the fuel with poison to quell the masses.

The fuel additives get burnt up in the ignition There are by products far worse coming out the back of cars by the billion. It's hogwash.
Keep running...
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Keep running...
You avoided MY web link and didn't answer either of my posts.

The claim is that jets put chemicals in their fuel to poison the masses. Your link speculates about unburnt fuel additives. Point me to...or quote where the atmosphere analysis shows a consistent poisoning pattern.

Cars are a million times worse. ..you know the exhausts actually being at ground level and vastly more of it than jets.

I don't run away from debate. You however are just diverting.

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Old 23-07-2017, 12:13 PM   #91
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Be very careful of who you engage in debates or conversations with on social media and conspiracy web sites.


Troops, Trolls and Troublemakers: A Global Inventory of Organized Social Media Manipulation -- new Oxford paper

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Old 23-07-2017, 12:42 PM   #92
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Be very careful of who you engage in debates or conversations with on social media and conspiracy web sites.


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What tends to get totally distorted is the reason and general activity. Conspiracy believers make the rubbish claim that THEY are the ones being targeted to quieten them...because they are correct The activity you highlight is anti government targeted.
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What tends to get totally distorted is the reason and general activity. Conspiracy believers make the rubbish claim that THEY are the ones being targeted to quieten them...because they are correct The activity you highlight is anti government targeted.

There is another side, silencing any criticisms of the governments.

If conspiracy believers are wrong all the time then why are they targeted with such harassment and trolling.

This ongoing study since 2012 has shown that social media sites are awash with government trolls who target individuals on line and try to break up threads and attack anyone who is showing an anti establishment leaning.

Take Anonymous and WikiLeaks ,are what they have exposed in regards to spying on citizens and various other skulduggery by governments not a cause for concern??
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Old 23-07-2017, 03:04 PM   #94
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If conspiracy believers are wrong all the time then why are they targeted with such harassment and trolling.
Who says they are?? I can understand silencing government or corporate criticism.....but conspiracies in general provoke nothing more than humour. What damaging stuff has been silenced by this campaign?? YouTube...forums etc. are awash with all sorts of nonsensical claims. This blame it on trolls mentality is a cop out. Blame it on crap claims is more accurate.

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Who says they are?? I can understand silencing government or corporate criticism.....but conspiracies in general provoke nothing more than humour. What damaging stuff has been silenced by this campaign?? YouTube...forums etc. are awash with all sorts of nonsensical claims. This blame it on trolls mentality is a cop out. Blame it on crap claims is more accurate.

Take Anonymous and WikiLeaks ,are what they have exposed in regards to spying on citizens and various other skulduggery by governments not a cause for concern??

The conspiracy to spy on citizens was proven fact by leaked documents. Snowden was also on to something, WikiLeaks has shown that governments do conspire to conceal , conspire to keep things from the public and hide things under the national security acts.

To say that all known conspiracies are void of controversy or suspicions or not based at least in some facts is a tad on dimensional.

Those on the receiving end of trolling or harassment by suspected government trolls/shils would paint a very different picture i would imagine.

One is trolled for a reason, that reason is to shut one up and also to destroy ones credibility through character assassination attacks.

The fact is conspiracy or alternative web sites or any thing that challenges the official narrative of global events are more than likely to be awash with government trolls, if anything these trolls are hell bent in STOPPING any real perceptions taking hold that those in government are anything but trustworthy or that they do, have ,and will conspire to hide things if it suits their needs or policies.

The amount of material Wikileaks has released is anything but a cop out and proves beyond doubt that those in governmental high office or decision making do conspire to conceal and not all of that concealment merits the need for concealment through the "national security acts", that in its self is a conspiracy, a conspiracy based on factual evidence and raises the serious questions of what other concealments have those in high office and decision making concealed.???

Put it this way i would be dumbfounded if governments did not take a serious view of monitoring web sites like this with an array of sophisticated trolls. I know i would if i was in the corridors of high office.

Its not about the nature or credibility of stuff posted on conspiracy sites, its about keeping those who do post stuff, plausible or not in line.
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I stand by my post above. There is no direct evidence that conspiracy claims require any response from government "trolls or shills".

I would say the biggest claim by far on the web is 911 and I see no evidence of that getting shut down. It's absolutely everywhere. Again...youtube is awash with millions of videos on a whole host of subjects...unabated.

Claiming this is as a concerted effort to undermine conspiracies in general gives it false credence. Normal people take up the challenge to argue these claims and labelling them as shills and trolls is bollocks.

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Old 30-07-2017, 12:55 PM   #97
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I stand by my post above. There is no direct evidence that conspiracy claims require any response from government "trolls or shills".

I would say the biggest claim by far on the web is 911 and I see no evidence of that getting shut down. It's absolutely everywhere. Again...youtube is awash with millions of videos on a whole host of subjects...unabated.

Claiming this is as a concerted effort to undermine conspiracies in general gives it false credence. Normal people take up the challenge to argue these claims and labelling them as shills and trolls is bollocks.


There is evidence that government trolls and shills do infiltrate, troll , harass and target individuals.Also those like Anonymous and WikiLeaks that are either trying to speak out against or expose various official narratives .

Anonymous have on occasions accused such governmental trolling as fact and one of their leaked documents expose such trolls.

WikiLeaks have also accused the government of such trolling and i would be dumbfounded to think that the Anonymous and WikiLeaks are not trolled or even infiltrated or that their members are not harassed and targeted.


Take the hacked data -dump leak that Anonymous leaked.

Shortly after Anonymous hacked and leaked 70,000 emails from Stratfor,http://www.palantir.com/ a US intelligence contractor, which Anonymous accused of spying on them and their network. The hacked data-dump revealed a group calling themselves "Team Themis" made up of Palantir, http://www.palantir.com/HBGary Federal, http://www.hbgary.com/and other firms. Barrett describes this group as having "black propaganda" capabilities that proposed disinformation, intimidation and hacking of activist groups such as Code Pink, Wikileaks and its supporters.

https://steemit.com/crowdsourcing/@v...suance-project

Those hacked and leaked data-dumps by Anonymous showing such a group of governmental operatives named "Team Themis"as having "black propaganda" capabilities that proposed disinformation, intimidation and hacking of activist groups such as Code Pink, Wikileaks and its supporters is no conspiracy theory.

In fact its a sign that Governments plant shills and trolls around the world and DO hack, troll, harass, spread disinformation and often target certain individuals or groups that are against the official narratives of global events.

Some fight back like Anonymous and WikiLeaks have show that governments are anything but openly honest and straight with their citizens.


Barrett Browns Pursuance Project is one such fight back and its aim is to make a safe cyber space for like minded individuals who like Anonymous and WikiLeaks base their concerns and oppositions to credible leaked documents showing criminalised institutional crimes by governments and the banking institutions.

Again the goal of such trolls and shils is to silence such groups or individuals and that is done by trolling, harassment and targeting.

"The pursuance system is the world's first comprehensive framework for process democracy. That is, it allows individuals with no prior relationship to self-organize into robust, agile entities governed via a "proceduralism of agreement." These entities, called pursuances, in turn engage and collaborate among themselves to whatever extent they choose, leading ultimately to a vast and formidable ecosystem of opposition to institutionalized injustice".

The cyber fight back against criminalised institutions like governments and banks will be one of a war of information, hacking and data-dumping like what Anonymous and WikiLeaks are doing but on a much larger scale, with coordinated and sophisticated groups working and sharing information mainly from leaked data-dumps. These are the groups and individuals that are trolled , targeted,harassed and monitored i have no doubts about.

That must be a massive concern to all governments and banks engaging in criminalised injustices, trolls and shils are no conspiracy clap trap when viewed in these lights.

This below from the Pursuance Project.

"The ideas and ethos behind the Pursuance Project are simple. Since the advent of the internet people have been able to instantly communicate freely with anyone, anywhere at anytime which has allowed then to quickly build up strong online friendships, networks, and identities.

"As we see with other online fringe research groups such as parts of 4chan and Reddit structured unity can be a very effective and powerful thing but they weren't designed for it and are heavily censored and monitored.

With internet censorship becoming more restrictive by the day people will need a place like this to allow them to securely share and collaborate in research efforts. In an article posted to the Pursuance Projects website Barrett writes:

How the next few decades unfold will depend on who takes best advantage of this unlimited power to recruit and organize. This is now sufficiently apparent that large numbers of reasonable and capable people, given a viable opportunity, may be convinced to enter the arena.


Additional links:
Pursuance Project - Github
https://github.com/PursuanceProject

Assange Statement on Barrett Brown
https://wikileaks.org/Assange-statement-on-the.html

HB Gary emails - Wikileaks;
https://wikileaks.org/hbgary-emails/

Stratfor emails - Wikileaks;
https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/

Barrett Browns 1st reddit AMA
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen..._activist_who/


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MEDIA OPS | Wikileaks Hints To Part 2 Of Vault 7 Release - 4th July | Steemit - @Fortified - 06/26/2017
https://steemit.com/wikileaks/@forti...lease-4th-july

IC WATCH | Watching The Watchers | Steemit - @Fortified - 06/28/2017
https://steemit.com/wikileaks/@forti...g-the-watchers

DinsFire v0.1 - Beginning the first decentralized intelligence network (DIN) | Steemit - @rebelskum - 06/30/2017
https://steemit.com/steemdev/@rebels...ce-network-din

CICADA 3301 | A Binary/Quantum Encryption Model Based On DNA? A New Form Of Decentralized Encryption | Steemit - @Fortified - 03/26/2017
https://steemit.com/crypto/@fortifie...l-based-on-dna

Barrett Brown's Pursuance Project | Steemit - @V4vapid - 06/04/2017
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Very interesting James but my post above still responds to this adequately....my personal favourite way to silence certain conspiracies is to prove they are total crap
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Lots of words, no evidence. It seems to suggest that fuel by products other than condensation are the "chem" bits. Completely nothing to do with the actual claim that a systemic poisoning of the atmosphere is being carried out by chemical spraying in plane exhausts.

http://contrailscience.com/<b>how-to...hemtrails</b>/
Ha Ha ....tg doesn't even acknowledge chemtrailing is going on !!!

He thinks it's all harmless water vapour !!



I might have guessed it ....

Zero credibility
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Ha Ha ....tg doesn't even acknowledge chemtrailing is going on !!!

He thinks it's all harmless water vapour !!



I might have guessed it ....

Zero credibility
Oh look the joke has popped in to troll me. Martian bases loaded with humans...northern councillors mating with frickin' 8ft grasshoppers....Michael Jackson still alive...Macca is not Macca and dozens more Bashit crazy stuff and he has tbe audacity to say i have no credibilty

Ok smartarse...in your own words right here and now..list your top 5 pieces of chemtrail evidence...or just run away for the 50th time
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