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Old 05-11-2015, 11:08 PM   #981
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What do you know about the parasite toxiplasmosa gondii. You may have noticed on Google News today that a man was 30 seconds from death due to a tapeworm in his brain. Between one third and half all humans carry the parasite toxiplasmosa in their brains. In France it is over 80%.

This minute worm breeds in a cat’s gut. Cats do not get it in their brains but the eggs are excreted in gardens and cat litter trays. The cycle of this worm then needs an intermediate host to ingest them where they will dwell in a larval form. So what happens is that mice or rats will eat them. So will sheep, pigs and deer and if not very well cooked will pass to the human. They are found on vegetables and once on a child’s hand soon end up in their mouth.

Some years ago they noticed that rats and mice carrying this parasite behaved in a curious way. The parasite reduced their fear of cats, in fact it attracted them almost sexually to cat urine. This made them easy prey and the cats would then catch and eat them allowing them to breed. What they wondered was happening in human brains. Not much work has been published on this but it was noticed that human carriers were more likely to be in road accidents.

It is not something that we are intended to worry about but if we are toxoplasmosis positive we will be attracted to behaviour that puts us at risk. The risk the parasite wants is one which will end up with it being consumed by a cat or rodent. If someone dies in hospital and is cremated this does not happen. But a suicide bomber will do nicely. Nothing is better for the rodents than bombing or a nuclear explosion where bodies are not buried.

We have a lot of this going on at the moment. These parasites are trapped in 5 billion brains and want to get out. I would suggest that toxoplasmosis positive people should not be allowed anywhere near nuclear triggers. Nor should they be involved in military decisions that lead to bombing. I am perfectly serious and please read about this – Wikipedia has a good article. We have had constant wars where the battle fields have swarmed with rats and mice and cats have had a field day. We really need to eradicate this parasite but do not appear to be able to do that.

Yes WW3 is looming far too fast. As soon as one nuclear device is used the taboo will be broken and the scenario becomes one where nations must use their stockpiles fast, before they become targets. The big worry about a nation doing this is that they will have faulty intelligence. There were no WMD in Iraq. There was not about to be a genocide in Benghazi as we were told, nor was Gaddafi giving Viagra to his men to rape families as declared by the ICC prosecutor no less and reported all over the world to hasten an invasion and his murder. Two lawmakers in Turkey say they have evidence now that the sarin used in Syria was made in Turkey as alleged by Seymour Hersch. The western media has refused to publish on this but we very nearly invaded Assad because of this and at least two intelligence agencies immediately announced that they had evidence that Assad had used it. So how likely is it that faulty intelligence will be presented to a leader who must decide within minutes whether to fire his nuclear missiles or not?

Our problem in the west is that we do not admit our mistakes. We sneer at conspiracy theories and refuse to have proper investigations of the defining moments that cause wars, or bring us close to them. That only encourages a terrible mistake, a terrible crime. It is understandable why we act in denial but perhaps a parasite is behind this suicidal behaviour.

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Old 06-11-2015, 04:16 PM   #982
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As Michael Fallon urges MPs to allow the British planes to bomb in Syria as we should not rely on the US, France and Australia to do this for us he should bear in mind the following from jurist.com

"One of the biggest critics of the ICC is the US, which stands virtually alone as the only Western nation not to ratify the Rome Statute. Parties to the statute criticize the US decision to abstain from participating in the court, claiming that the US seeks to immunize its officials and soldiers from becoming defendants in war crimes prosecutions. Indeed, on March 18, 2007, Moreno-Ocampo claimed that then-US President George W. Bush may face a war crimes investigation (pending jurisdictional requirements) stemming from the conduct of coalition forces in Iraq. Though President Bill Clinton signed the Rome Statute in 2000, the Clinton administration did not submit the treaty to the Senate for ratification. In 2002, President George W. Bush unsigned the treaty. Although President Barack Obama's administration has expressed greater support for the ICC than the Bush Administration, it is unlikely that the US will become a party to the Rome Statute in the near future."

Our politicians and troops may well stand accused of war crimes by the ICC and will not have a leg to stand on if they have been lying. It was a lie that Iraq had WMD and we will soon know who lied, it was a lie that Gaddafi was planning an imminent genocide in Libya and as claimed by the ICC that he was giving his men Viagra to rape families both blatant lies used to justify the illegal invasion and destruction of the Libyan air force, and it was a lie that Assad had used sarin which was claimed when parliament was asked to endorse invasion of Syria. Of course our politicians do not believe they will ever have to answer questions in court but they are deluding themselves. It will come to that when the truth comes out which will happen. For example this week it was said that Blair told his ministers to burn the legal advice saying the Iraq invasion would be illegal. We await the Chilcot report but based on what it must contain almost certainly charges will be brought either by Iraq, some organisation or the ICC itself. That will then start an investigation into Iraq and Syria. It took many years for the paedophile cases to come to court but it happens as the public turn against politicians and entertainers and facts become known.

That said it will be too late for a million Iraqis, who knows how many Libyans and 300,000 Syrians indeed more like 24 million whose country was destroyed before their eyes by men we employed. The world government depends on politicians thinking it will come out ok but look how Cheney is now being vilified by Bush Sr and Rumsfeld. Scapegoats area way of life in politics. One should be very careful not to break laws when in office. But if one causes genocide only utter fools would think they can avoid the repercussions. sadly idiots are what we have in our cabinets these days - men and women forcing our intelligence agencies and army to do things that they do not want to do. They are the ones who granted immunity from prosecution under the Official Secrets Act, as will happen, will testify as they were blamed with Iraq for providing faulty intelligence.

Fallon asking to bomb in Syria reveals that things are not going well to bring Assad down, something that only certain coalition countries want and to see him replaced by Sharia Law not democracy. It looked as though Russia and Egypt were going down the faulty plane route which is why I suspect the west has now said they think it was a bomb. Another big mistake. 40,000+ Russians will be stranded in Sinai and their anger will be directed at IS and the coalition, not Putin. Our government advisors are of the most dubious quality or else they are intentionally bringing the country down. Avoiding war is how we survived the last 65 years but now they are driving towards it at full steam. They are too young, too inexperienced and too confident. If they knew how close we came to being conquered by the Nazis, how much we needed that 'appeasement' year to build an air force (which we do not have at present) and a radar system that enabled us to survive the Blitz then they would be more cautious. However I find them commenting in news articles complaining about the Appeasement as though the US were going to save us. The US entered the war years later only when Hitler and Japan declared war on them. The US public were against it until then. We were alone with our Commonwealth although Russia did the most to destroy Hitler, lost millions of soldiers and are not credited for this to this day. We supplied them. Now apparently they are the big enemy. Big mistake.
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Old 09-11-2015, 04:37 PM   #983
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Well what can we make of the latest news. Corbyn accused of not bowing deep enough at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday. It looked fine to many of us. That morning the head of the British army said that Britain would not be safe under the man if elected because he has said he would not press the button and does not favour the £165 Billion replacement of Trident. Last night 6500 comments were on a Guardian article about this and appearing too fast to keep up. Almost unheard of and split between support for Corbyn and huge fury at the man for everything he believes in and does. Yet a recent poll found only 19% of Britons favoured replacing Trident. We are split as a nation on whether to have nuclear weapons at all. Surely one man in Parliament with this view should be allowed - many in his Labour party are ardent nuclear supporters.

Now today the WADA have demanded that Russia be banned from athletics and claim that Russians being allowed to take part in the Olympics sabotaged them. Heady stuff. We know about doping and it is incredible for example how Armstrong managed to evade capture by tests over his career at the top of his sport but eventually he was caught.

“In June 2012, the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) accused Armstrong of doping and trafficking of drugs, based on blood samples from 2009 and 2010, and testimonies from witnesses including former teammates. Further, he was accused of putting pressure on teammates to take unauthorized performance-enhancing drugs as well. In October, USADA formally charged him with running a massive doping ring. It also sought to ban him from participating in sports sanctioned by WADA for life. Armstrong chose not to appeal the ban, saying it would not be worth the toll on his family” Wikipedia

There is something curious about this as it mentions the testimonies of his former teammates and blood tests from two to three years previous to the accusations. In my mind it raises more questions than it answers.

We prefer nations to engage in competitive sport than war. I remember for example the year (1980) that the now head of the IAAF Lord Coe won his medals in the Moscow Olympics. The US and 65 other nations refused to compete that year because of the Russian ‘invasion of Afghanistan’ mind you we were arming and supporting the Mujihadeen against the Russians including Bin Laden , a force that became the Taliban and Al Qaida, now IS. So sport is no stranger to this kind of action.

Is Russia guilty? Should it be banned? Is this part of the war against Russia on all fronts - economic, military, rhetoric, media, proxy whatever? Well the timing is suspect but we always laughed at the Russian weightlifters and shot putters and asked whether the women were men. However this report by WADA was specific in its investigation of Russia, no one else it seems and to think only Russia uses and hides doping is naïve at best. Even Britons have been alleged recently to have failed dope tests. So why did WADA do this? The Chairman of WADA is a Canadian lawyer named Dick Pound. Wikpedia tells us (NB he did not ask for these nations to be banned from sport as far as I can see):

“Discussing the National Hockey League in November 2005, Pound said, “you wouldn’t be far wrong if you said a third of hockey players are gaining some pharmaceutical assistance." Pound would later admit that he completely invented the figure. Both the NHL and NHLPA have denied the claims, demanding Pound provide evidence rather than make what they term unsubstantiated claims. Since his comments were made, some NHL players have tested positive for banned substances, including Bryan Berard, José Théodore, and two of 250 players involved in Olympic testing. As of June 2006, there had been 1,406 tests in the program jointly administered by the league and the union, and none has come up with banned substances under NHL rules. Pound remained skeptical, claiming the NHL rules were too lax and unclear, as they do not test for some banned substance, including certain stimulants. In an interview with hockey blogger, B. D. Gallof, of Hockeybuzz on December 19, 2007, Pound was asked to expand on the 30% comment and subsequent reaction, expounded that stimulants was "the NHL's drug of choice". He also cited that the NHL will have no credibility on a drug policy if it, and other sports, continue to run things "in-house".
Lance Armstrong
In January 2004, Le Monde quoted Pound as saying that "the public knows that the riders in the Tour de France and the others are doping." This prompted a strongly worded rebuke from Lance Armstrong, who called Pound's comments "careless and unacceptable." Pound said he was surprised by the personal nature of Armstrong's response because he had never mentioned the cyclist by name.
Around the same time, scientists at a French lab were using frozen urine samples from the 1999 Tour de France to find a new way of detecting erythropoietin (EPO), an oxygen-boosting agent. The samples did not have names attached to them, only numbers, and were provided for research purposes only. But an article in the August 23, 2005 edition of L'Équipe reported finding documentation linking the numbers with the riders, with the findings from the research with samples linked to Armstrong, claiming that six of his 15 samples showed traces of EPO. Pound told the media that there was "now an onus on Lance Armstrong and the others to explain how it is EPO got into their systems."
The Union Cycliste Internationale launched an enquiry, led by lawyer Emile Vrijman, former head of the Netherlands’ antidoping agency (and later defense lawyer of athletes accused of doping). In his 132-page report, leaked to the media on May 31, 2006, Vrijman said no proper records were kept of the samples and that there had been no chain of custody and no process to ensure that the samples had not been spiked with banned substances at the laboratory. The report was highly critical of WADA and Pound, concluding that they had specifically targeted Armstrong and the UCI. The report also called for an investigation to "focus on the communications between Dick Pound and the media" and recommended that no disciplinary action be taken against any athletes.
In response, Pound dismissed the Vrijman report as “so lacking in professionalism and objectivity that it borders on farcical.” WADA released an official statement, criticising the Vrijman report as biased, ill-informed, speculative, and "fallacious in many aspects."
On June 9, 2006, Armstrong sent an eight-page letter to Jacques Rogge, president of the International Olympic Committee, demanding that action be taken against Pound. He wrote that Pound was guilty of “reprehensible and indefensible” behaviour and "must be suspended or expelled from the Olympic movement". In February 2007, the IOC ethics committee recommended that Pound exercise greater prudence in his public pronouncements. It declined to move toward removing Pound as an IOC member, and found it had no jurisdiction over WADA. In response, Pound said he was accountable to WADA, not to the IOC.
Walter Mayer
Based on information supplied by WADA, Italian police raided the rooms of Austria’s cross-country and Nordic skiing team at the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin. Pound told reporters that blood-doping gear had been confiscated from the home of Austrian coach, Walter Mayer, a month earlier. Mayer brought defamation charges against Pound—and against IOC president Jacques Rogge—claiming that he had been slandered by their comments. Mayer withdrew his lawsuits in February 2007.
Floyd Landis
In January 2007, Pound responded to Floyd Landis' testosterone test following stage 17 of the Tour of France, an event (and a stage) which Landis initially won, but of which he was stripped after failing a dope case and losing at arbitration. Pound declared "I mean, it was 11 to 1!" referring to the testosterone-to-epitestosterone level. "You’d think he’d be violating every virgin within 100 miles. How does he even get on his bicycle?"
Golf
In July 2007 former champion Gary Player went public with his views about drug taking in golf, a view endorsed by Pound.
"Player has no particular axe to grind, other than to try and maintain the integrity of his sport. It is a wake-up call and the PGA need to act now while they still have the initiative, rather than being forced into it as a result of a scandal."
First nations comment
On August 9, 2008, during a conversation in French, when asked about whether the IOC was embarrassed to be affiliated with China's recent political history, he was quoted as replying: "We must not forget that 400 years ago, Canada was a land of savages, with scarcely 10,000 inhabitants of European origin, while in China, we're talking about a 5,000-year-old civilization."
Two months later, the Aboriginal advocacy group LandInSights asked for him to be suspended from the International Olympic Committee for the remark. Pound responded that it was a clumsy remark that was taken out of context and that in the particular French expression used, "un pays de sauvages", the French sauvages was not equivalent to English "savages".Wikpedia

I suppose what worries me most about today’s news is that Russia has not been given a chance to defend itself. This is not some court of law it is a report that has been commissioned and the timing is critical. Clearly national doping agencies have failed all over the world but not been called to account in this way. No one suggested they were sabotaging the Olympics, the Tour de France etc. So why is the language today so extreme?

IAAF head Lord Coe meanwhile is meanwhile urgently seeking approval from other members to sanction Russia. Coe is ok - he used to be a Tory MP but is a genuine athlete. However perhaps he should be asking Russia about this before sanctioning them.

What concerns me is how the media and western governments seem determined to push Russia into a corner. It is infantile because our governments have been behaving with reckless abandon and are entirely responsible for the mess in North Africa and the Middle East while Russia cautioned against these illegal interventions. If it is true that the Russian plane was brought down by Britons with London and Birmingham accents how can we blame Russia for that? But we are.

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Old 09-11-2015, 09:40 PM   #984
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Now quite possibly this man is right:

Russia is putting world peace at risk, says Pentagon chief Ash Carter
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The Kremlin’s ‘challenging activities’ and nuclear sabre-rattling are ‘disturbing’, the defense secretary says, adding a warning about the rise of China

…..“We’re investing in the technologies that are most relevant to Russia’s provocations, such as new unmanned systems, a new long-range bomber, and innovation in technologies like the electromagnetic railgun, lasers and new systems for electronic warfare, space and cyberspace, including a few surprising ones I really can’t describe here,” he said…..http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...ief-ash-carter

But also possible is that the corporations that are benefiting from all this paranoia are making the running. This is good for the Trident replacement business too although in simple terms it is hard to see how Britain would prioritise this over a missile defence system that can shoot missiles down before they get here. We are building aircraft carriers but have no planes to put on them. We do not make nuclear missiles ourselves or any of these new fangled things mentioned here - why not? We need China to build our next nuclear power stations. Why?

The country that famously designed and built the Spitfires and Hurricanes in a year that saved it in the Battle Of Britain also did this:

The Harrier, informally referred to as the Harrier Jump Jet, is a family of jet fighters capable of vertical/short takeoff and landing (V/STOL) operations. Originally developed by UK manufacturer Hawker Siddeley in the 1960s, the Harrier emerged as the only truly successful V/STOL design of the many attempted during that era…

The only jet that could or can do that. But we do not make such things now. Why?

I do believe we need to be defended from aggression. The first and best way is to stop attacking others either verbally or with proxy militants or with our own armed forces. All one can think is that very powerful corporations and their lobbies have closed down our real defence business. We now make Eurofighters with our partners in Europe but we could be selling these invaluable verticle take off planes. I recall a transatlantic race in the 70’s I think from the top of the Post Office Tower in London. They raced to Heathrow to get on planes, maybe even Concorde and then up perhaps the Empire State Building. But the RAF won with a Harrier parked next to the tower. I am disgusted that we rely on Trident that can only massacre civilians by the millions. A decent air force and missile defence is the best defence.

What we see in the world this week is utter madness. Baiting of nuclear armed nations, humiliating them, stripping them of allies, encroaching on their borders, trying to oust them from their established bases or those they are constructing although we the west have over 1000. This ‘madness’ is the great warmonger, and the greatest ever danger to humanity. But it is extremely hard to understand. Was the world such a problem in 1999? The USSR had broken up peacefully. We could have built upon that.

There are many peaceful nations in the world surely we can learn from them. None have nuclear weapons, none threaten neighbours. Why do we have to be so hostile? Do we really think that China and Russia will take that well? The only possible reason is for world domination and that is always the beginning of the end for the empire. Balance of power is destroyed and only war can result until it is achieved once more. But this time the nuclear war will destroy all that is worthwhile including the corporations that have made it happen. If they are waking up to that it is a bit late.
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Old 10-11-2015, 06:28 PM   #985
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This is about to become a very famous plane crash, perhaps the most famous. UK Foreign Secretary Fallon is in Washington talking to Kerry. They now say that western intelligence has listened in to Russia and that Russia believes it was a bomb. Presumably they do not trust Russia to admit that. Fallon is now saying if this was IS then Britain HAS to join in bombing in Syria. Well he and his predecessor Hague have been saying that all along, urging Assad’s removal since the first protests, but even after the staged sarin attack Parliament did not want to do that. Iraq and Libya have disgraced Britain who can believe this is any different? Netanyahu is also in Washington so one imagines that Assad’s ears are burning. China has aircraft by Syria on their aircraft carrier all ready to go. It is said that Russia intends to put 150,000 troops in. The US have a squadron of fighters in Turkey that are specifically for downing other planes. We are all geared up to announce a unilateral coalition enforced ‘no fly zone’ which will result in Assad’s airforce being destroyed. Russia will not allow that nor will China.

After the nuclear war there will be war crimes tribunals. They cannot be prevented. Iraq has shown how the Gungho pre-invasion spirit vanishes when the truth comes out. The truth is that all of this was to remove Assad illegally. The creation of IS is being blamed on him but after he is dead no one will believe this nonsense. It will be a massive trial as millions will have been killed over this. And the reason for the war? This plane crash.
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I am horrified by this article on the plane crash. I am British and voted SNP so for me these people do not represent me or our country, certainly not what it was and stood for but I am not happy about these allegations which seem to want to deflect all blame from the coalition to my country. is that because we are drifting into WW3? I was wondering about the article as the website went offline yesterday. It is an organisation based in Washington which was set up in 1994. Fallon yesterday was in Washington. The article was also published in RT and I can imagine that Britain is now public enemy number one in Russia, not the US. It terrifies me that our politicians have allowed this to happen. We had nothing against Russia, Egypt or Syria which was a peaceful and stable, even tolerant nation. It always seemed possible that Libya was framed for the Lockerbie crash. Many in Scotland do not believe the verdict and are still trying to appeal it with new evidence but have been denied. Certainly it was not cut and dried and witnesses were bribed. That though seems long ago and Britain certainly did not bomb it. How we sank to our politicians telling constant lies and slanders that kill, for the national interests of others is beyond me.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/...ical-strategy/

I can understand these snakes using the tragedy, even not expressing any sadness over it but with all my might I pray and hope they had nothing to do with this. Even their rhetoric is putting us in danger of war with Russia. Putin famously said that as a child in Leningrad he realised the importance of a pre-emptive strike before your enemies destroy you. I assure any Russians reading this that most Britons and all that I know, especially here in Scotland, have nothing against you and do not support the recent demonization of your country. Most of us did not even vote for these people but this article is I think framing us and is another part of the global tragedy leading to war. Whoever did this wants us blamed and sadly our politicians have walked straight into their trap. Hopefully we will stay out of Syria and learn to keep our big mouths shut as the whole world already hates us, even our 'allies'.
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G20 meets in Turkey this weekend. Russia is still in G20. Turkey has put Syria on the agenda. Russia has proposed an 18 month constitutional change under the aegis of someone agreed to be all parties in the civil war after which there will be an election. It has been met with mass rejection almost entirely because they fear Assad might be elected again. Whatever they say about 'butcher Assad' he is very popular with Syrians for fighting the Jihadists who wish to impose Sharia Law and run a one party state with apparently the support of the west.

Turkey wants a safe zone in Northern Syria. This it claims is for refugees and to make the point they are swarming into Europe from Turkey. In reality this is the partition of Syria, always envisaged and will put much of the country under we presume Turkish control. The Kurds will be worried. others also favour the no fly zone we imposed prior to destroying Gaddafi. It enables the Jihadists to take over unopposed. But Russia, unless bought off now, will oppose.

This G20 will be very interesting, more so that the Vienna talks. we will see if these nations really want peace or are hankering after the regime change that this has really always been about.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia:

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Saudi Arabia is pushing the U.N. General Assembly's human rights committee to condemn Iranian and Russian intervention in Syria, a move that prompted complaints on Tuesday from the delegations of Iran and Syria.

The non-binding draft resolution, prepared by Saudi Arabia and co-sponsored by Qatar and other Arab nations, the United States, Britain, France and other Western powers, was presented during a meeting of the assembly's Third Committee, which focuses on human rights.

The Syria resolution and similar declarations on Iran, North Korea and Myanmar are expected to be put to a vote as early as next week, diplomats said. The vote would therefore come after a ministerial meeting on Syria in Vienna of the United States, Russia and other major powers later this week.

Without explicitly naming Russia, the draft would have the committee saying the U.N. "strongly condemns all attacks against the Syrian moderate opposition and calls for their immediate cessation, given that such attacks benefit so-called ISIL (Daesh) and other terrorist groups, such as al Nusra Front."

The language is aimed at Russia, which has been bombing opposition forces in Syria for over a month. Moscow says it is attacking Islamic State but Western officials say over 80 percent of its strikes hit other rebel forces, include Western-backed ones.

A Syrian delegate read a statement criticizing the resolution. He said Saudi Arabia and Qatar have no right to lecture anyone on human rights. He said the resolution was an attempt to "politicize" the human rights situation in Syria.

An Iranian delegate echoed the Syrian remarks. Iran and Saudi Arabia are regional rivals. Tehran has strongly condemned the Saudi-led military intervention in Yemen.

The Syria resolution would condemn the presence in Syria of "all foreign terrorist fighters ... and foreign forces fighting on behalf of the Syrian regime, particularly the al Quds Brigades, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (of Iran) and militia groups, such as Hezbollah."
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Kerry is Vienna meeting the Saudis and Turks tonight. Tomorrow they start talks with Russia, Iran etc. This weekend the G20 leaders meet in Turkey also to discuss Syria. This week Syria broke the siege of an airport while Kurds freed a city under Is control, broke their supply route in half and of course the US/UK combined to kill Muhammed Emwazi (called Jihadi John). One could see a degree of good fortune with the timing of all of this. Meanwhile only a fool would not see the massive escalation going on. ‘Moderate’ rebels have been loaded up with lethal missiles by the Saudis and US. The US has moved a squadron of planes into Turkey in case they are needed for dog fights. The Russians have installed vast anti aircraft missiles with a massive reach. Israel has been bombing something just by Damascus airport. China is said to have an aircraft carrier off the coast of Syria. Britain is pleading to be allowed to start bombing in Syria and using the Russian plane crash as the reason. If they are taking peace it does not look like it and the chorus of Assad out is at fever pitch just in case we were not aware that this is why this war is happening. Meanwhile Europe is being treated to the refugee crisis and is giving Turkey £3 billion towards it.

If you can be bothered to look at this article about the drone strike on Jihadi John you will see Raqqa where he was hit. If this is a recent picture as it is supposed to be it must be said that the IS headquarters and Islamic Court look in excellent condition. Any Syrian city is a heap of ruins by comparison. Raqqa is the IS capital. I think the photo says everything and I could not write it better.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ted-Raqqa.html

This conflict is destroying the west although they have not woken up to the fact. The lies told will haunt us for generations so ridiculous are they. But the damage will last much longer and an empire is falling. Not listening to common sense is fatal

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This atrocity in France today was timed for the meetings in Vienna and Turkey. If our politicians do not accept responsibility for what they have created with the regime changes, the foreign policies on the Middle East, the arming and support of Jihadist murderers whatever name they take, the 6 million Palestinians still in camps, 10 million Syrians evicted by their war games - then this will never end.

WE are responsible and if our leaders will not stop this insanity, continue lying and putting corporate interests over all populations - then populations need to question this so called democracy they say it is for. The problem is war and the solution is certainly not more war but reparations. Reconstruction can be done by local people with our funding not as a freeby for our big corpse.

If any of them today dare to use this as a call for regime change and stepping up their war then they are probably the authors of this attack and that in Lebanon yesterday, indeed even the Russian plane down.

How many innocent lives must be violently ended? How many millions made homeless by wealthy politicians and despots who lie for a living? Humanity is shamed by them.
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By Tim Ross, and Ben Farmer
11:35AM GMT 14 Nov 2015
The Paris terrorist attacks sparked fresh calls for Britain to take military action against Islamic State in their heartland of Syria.
David Cameron was forced to shelve plans for a vote in the Commons on whether to extend British air strikes from Iraq into Syria because the government did not have enough support for the move among Tory and Labour MPs.
However, Conservatives said the attacks in France would convince more MPs that the only way to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant was by attacking them in Syria.
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Andrew Bridgen, the Tory MP who led opposition to air strikes against the Assad regime in Syria in 2013, said there was now a clear case for acting against Isil in Syria.

“The horrors in Paris have changed the game. I would hope that MPs who were uneasy about military action in Syria will now think again.”

He said Mr Cameron should call a vote on such military action as soon as possible.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-in-Syria.html

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This atrocity in France today was timed for the meetings in Vienna and Turkey. If our politicians do not accept responsibility for what they have created with the regime changes, the foreign policies on the Middle East, the arming and support of Jihadist murderers whatever name they take, the 6 million Palestinians still in camps, 10 million Syrians evicted by their war games - then this will never end.

WE are responsible and if our leaders will not stop this insanity, continue lying and putting corporate interests over all populations - then populations need to question this so called democracy they say it is for. The problem is war and the solution is certainly not more war but reparations. Reconstruction can be done by local people with our funding not as a freeby for our big corpse.

If any of them today dare to use this as a call for regime change and stepping up their war then they are probably the authors of this attack and that in Lebanon yesterday, indeed even the Russian plane down.

How many innocent lives must be violently ended? How many millions made homeless by wealthy politicians and despots who lie for a living? Humanity is shamed by them.
A decent, aware and humane post, Reve. Political puppets never will take responsibility for all the horror their masters want them to inflict, if they were capable of doing so, they never would have been allowed to achieve power over us. They are bought and paid for, chosen for blackmailable susceptibility to crime against the people - and for their greed to possess wealth at our expense. 'Corpse' really sums up the corporations which also suck us dry, soul-less entities that they are.
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Old 14-11-2015, 07:34 PM   #992
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Interesting tale here I have not seen anywhere else. This is about a Saudi prince allegedly caught with 2 tons of amphetamines in Beirut. It states that he claimed diplomatic immunity but his luggage was deemed not to have that and was searched but since his arrest the matter is said to have been pushed under a carpet. The full article is at Counterpunch. I have no idea about the veracity of this but mention it because of the drug I had never heard of and its use by IS. This explains much if true.:

" This is all a very big game. And captagon is not just some recreational drug, intended for underground nightclubs in the Gulf, and for notorious private orgies in Saudi Arabia. It is, as I was told by local experts, a “drug that makes one extremely brutal; a drug, which destroys all fear”. It is a “combat narcotic”, which has been given mainly to the ISIS fighters.

“It could have been destined for Iraq and the ISIS cells there, but most likely the Saudi Prince was bringing it for the Saudi allies in Yemen” I was told on the basis of anonymity. “Or both… Most likely: both.”

It was explained that those countless pills of captagon were produced and purchased in or around the town of Aarsal, in northern Lebanon on the Syrian border, an area controlled by ISIS, only around 15 kilometers from the major archeological site of Baalbek.....

(article by) Andre Vltchek is a philosopher, novelist, filmmaker and investigative journalist. He covered wars and conflicts in dozens of countries. His latest books are: “Exposing Lies Of The Empire” and “Fighting Against Western Imperialism”.Discussion with Noam Chomsky: On Western Terrorism. Point of No Return is his critically acclaimed political novel. Oceania – a book on Western imperialism in the South Pacific. His provocative book about Indonesia: “Indonesia – The Archipelago of Fear”. Andre is making films for teleSUR and Press TV. After living for many years in Latin America and Oceania, Vltchek presently resides and works in East Asia and the Middle East. He can be reached through his website or his Twitter.

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Old 16-11-2015, 05:19 PM   #993
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It was predictable that G20 would use this neatly timed incident to increase ‘over flying’ of Syria, to press for even more surveillance and yes to blame Assad’s barrel bombs and heap pressure on Putin. But if we put aside the IS side of things a different picture emerges. The real concern is then that Russia is bombing the opposition to Assad. They still talk about moderate opposition and have asked Jordan to decide which groups should be included in the transitional government. They still insist Assad must go knowing full well the entire structure will disintegrate the minute he does. They are offering Russia honour the promise. And they have said again how important the opposition is in the transition but clearly do not trust Syrians not to vote for Assad given half a chance. So what is so precious about the opposition? We know much is allied to Al Qaida, most is Jihadist, most anti-democracy, most funded by outside nations, many foreign troops. We also know they were responsible for the sarin attack in Goutha and that most Syrians were running from them. And of course they were the people who went over to IS although in theory have been fighting IS. The Kurds have been denied the TOW missiles but these Jihadists have them. And all this happened when Russia took them on. Huge protests by western leaders and this weekend pleas to Putin to leave them alone. Never any criticism of them, any responsibility for destroying Syria, any request they cease fire first and stop the civil war. We know there are 41 regiments plus IS (42). They have been promised Syria just as the gangs were promised Libya and it seems vital that this is carried through. All one can deduce is that the end product - a divided country of ruins governed by armed thugs of various nationalities - is what is really wanted and that any sign of unity (ie Assad) must be resisted.

For our governments to continue down this line for 4 years in spite of the disasters and proximity of WW3 says much. They do not appear to have a choice and the entire media is working with them. This is what NATO wants and the EU. Billions if not a trillion riding on it. IS is just a part of it and a very useful part for the media. Russia and Iran know revolutions will come to them if this works again but the pressure on them is vast. Economic destruction included. So I ask again what is it about these troops? We saw them trained in Afghanistan to fight Russia long ago and they were given the country as the Taliban. They did 9/11. They have taken over East and North Africa and are spreading into West Africa. Very little terrorism in EU so far except this week, none in Israel or US to speak of. They were used in Libya then shipped off to Syria. They were destroying any chance of nation building in Iraq and blowing up markets and civilians every week. Next is Iran. We have seen them supported in Chechnya. Usually they are described as freedom fighters and always well armed. They get paid salaries. They certainly include suicide kamikazis who have little choice when selected. They are in Yemen and probably the coalition is fighting the Houthis there as they are the enemy like Assad, Hussein and Gaddafi. Their financial support is from the richest part of the world but their logistical support is western. We know where they are - in Syria mostly and we could take them out overnight. But we will not.

I hope Britain will use barrel bombs if that is all we have when these peoples take over our inner cities and start a civil war. How can we complain at Assad when he was confronted by the biggest terrorism threat in history supported by the west? How could we support these people taking over Libya? It defies belief that the media refuses to ask these questions, that parliament will not ask either. That Syria and Libya were peaceful and stable before we let them loose on them. The refugees have been used to defend them, the fight against IS is their biggest protection. But they are IS. Note also that ‘Columbian’ paramilitaries have arrived in Yemen to help take on the Houthis. Are all these people designed to destroy nations that are in the way? Is that a business we are in now? Are we in the way too? This will end badly and I am sure all the intelligence agencies know that. Create a monster and you become its breakfast. Surely it is time to disband this army and certainly we face a big surge of terrorism when we do. I fear they have been promised Afghanistan, Syria and Libya to keep them quiet. It wont.
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Old 16-11-2015, 05:30 PM   #994
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And here from euronews is the first sign that some of our politicians have had enough of the lies and proxy war policies that have backfired so spectacularly:

"PARIS (Reuters) – French President Francois Hollande is under pressure to change policy in Syria’s civil war and work more closely with Russia after a wave of deadly attacks in Paris but he seems determined to stick to his guns and escalate military action.

France has become arguably the most exposed Western nation to Islamist militants because of its activism in the Middle East’s many conflicts, and its rigorous secularism at home, while the United States and Britain – burned by their experience in Iraq – have taken a more cautious approach.

Hollande’s response to Friday’s attacks was to declare that France is at war with Islamic State, which claimed responsibility for the Paris carnage, and to launch a major air strike on IS targets in its Syrian stronghold of Rakka.

While vowing national unity, his conservative opponents criticised the Socialist president for ostracizing Russia, shunning Iran and insisting that President Bashar al-Assad must go as a pre-condition for any Syrian peace settlement. He has also faced criticism from within his own party.

“We must draw the lessons on the situation in Syria,” ex-president Nicolas Sarkozy, leader of the main centre-right Republicans party, said after meeting Hollande on Sunday, calling for “an inflection of our foreign policy”.

“We need everyone’s help to exterminate Daesh (Islamic State), notably the Russians. There cannot be two coalitions in Syria,” Sarkozy told reporters.

Within the French foreign policy establishment, some veteran diplomats accuse Hollande of pursuing a “neo-conservative” foreign policy at a time when the United States and Britain have pulled back from foreign adventures.

Like other Western powers, Paris has distanced itself from Russian President Vladimir Putin and joined sanctions against Moscow over its annexation of Crimea last year and its role in destabilising eastern Ukraine.

Hollande scrapped the sale of two warships to Russia which Sarkozy had initiated while in office.

Putin’s intervention in the Syria conflict last month with air strikes on anti-Assad forces, including “moderate” Islamist groups armed and trained by the West, wrongfooted the French and U.S. governments.

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The renewed policy debate in Paris echoes similar arguments being thrashed out in Washington and London.

Republican U.S. presidential candidates are demanding much tougher action against IS than President Barack Obama has undertaken so far, while British Prime Minister David Cameron is struggling to convince lawmakers to authorise British participation in air strikes in Syria.

Unlike the United States, France has generally had a bipartisan consensus on foreign policy and the differences over Syria policy may be less deep in France than they appear.

French officials say Paris was left high and dry when Obama reversed course and cancelled a plan to strike Assad’s forces in August 2013 over the use of chemical weapons. French warplanes were ready on the runway when the word came from Washington that the U.S. president had decided against action.

“We wanted to go all the way in 2013, but in the end we got slapped by Barack Obama and we found ourselves alone,” a senior official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “We lost influence and now we don’t really see how to move forward there.”

Paris recently joined coalition air strikes in Syria after more than a year of bombing in Iraq. But until last night it had carried out just five strikes, mostly to try to ensure a seat in any negotiation, officials acknowledge.

Just before the Paris attacks, Hollande ordered the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle to the eastern Mediterranean. When it arrives in early December, it will treble French air power in the region to 36 aircraft.

In a sign of how Hollande may proceed in the coming weeks, some 10 French fighter jets struck multiple targets at Islamic State’s Syrian bastion Raqqa on Sunday night. Officials say it’s unlikely Paris will put boots on the ground, although it could, like the United States, deploy special forces.

The government’s critics say France should be working with Moscow, Tehran and Damascus for a political compromise.

Former centre-right Prime Minister Francois Fillon said it was time for France to “get over its vapours about Russia, understand that we need to work with Iran and even agree to work for a while with the Syrian regime”.

Veteran experts in the ruling Socialist party, such as former Foreign Minister Hubert Vedrine, are also urging Hollande to shift to a more “realist” approach.

“The principled position that Assad must go because of the atrocities committed since the start of the civil war… is understandable and respectable, but perhaps it can be turned into a form of leverage in the (diplomatic) process which is just starting,” Vedrine said before the Paris attacks.

“Let’s not forgot that when we fought Hitler, we had to make an alliance with Stalin who had killed more people than Hitler.”

More radical critics accuse Hollande of having exposed France to mortal danger with a string of military interventions since 2013 in Mali, the Central African Republic, Iraq and Syria, while building privileged ties with Gulf Arab states that are widely suspected of funding Jihadi groups.

Former Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, a conservative Gaullist who won global celebrity by denouncing U.S. plans for war in Iraq in 2003 in a dramatic U.N. Security Council speech, argues that France has “fallen into the trap” of fuelling and legitimising Islamist militancy.

Opposing Hollande’s decision last year to join the U.S.-led coalition staging air strikes against Islamic State in Iraq, Villepin said: “We know from experience that this kind of strike cannot produce the result we desire of eradicating terrorism.”

France, which has Europe’s largest Muslim population, has since suffered the blowback with a spate of acts of violence by radicalised Muslims, including January attacks on the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo and on a Jewish supermarket.

“Military intervention feeds terrorism. It legitimises the terrorists – you’re the centre of international attention, it gives you status and weight. And it radicalises others around the world. So it is counter-productive,” De Villepin told RTL radio in July 2014.

“Let’s not forget that we gave birth to the Islamic State,” he said. “It’s the result of the 2003 war. It’s the result of the mistakes made in Iraq, notably by supporting the sectarian, pro-Shi’ite Maliki government and dropping the Sunnis.”
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Old 16-11-2015, 05:51 PM   #995
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It is also a major distraction from the problem of 6 million Palestinians whose families have been in refugee camps for nearly 70 years and are denied a right of return to their homeland. There are now 10 million Syrian refugees in the same area. Turkey in fact has a minority of them. It has distracted the world from the plight of the West Bank, Jerusalem and Gaza. It has massively strengthened the hand of Israel's government and effectively ended any meaningful talks that might lead to two states. As they say if you are complaining about us what about the barrel bombs?

If we are to have peace and justice in the world this is where it must start. If the lies are to continue in international politics and we are to have war leading to WW3 this is where that also starts. It is curious how the Jihadists are united in wanting to remove Assad and have no complaints about Israel at all but they are realists. Syria is a country they can have, Israel is a war they do not want. Anyway they are mercenaries not religious men and their 'Jihad' is to cover up their cruelty, theft, murders and institutional rape. Men we support with that for some incomprehensible reason that will shame Britain for ever more unless we cut them out and lend support to Syria and their hard man leader Assad. Stopping the civil war from our side ends it now. We should never have started it in a tolerant and peaceful country. The other way takes us to war with Russia and China. But that might be a welcome distraction for some nations too until the air becomes dangerous to breathe.
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Old 18-11-2015, 03:12 PM   #996
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Yes I had noticed but they seem to be nice well meaning people so I did not want to mention it. If intended that people do not read this thread then that is rather sad and not as positive as portrayed. The world is at war and we need all the peace we can find or make.
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:29 PM   #997
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I have my television booming as Cameron makes his case for war. He has managed to turn around a 'not for war' country and Parliament by using Paris and toning down his attacks on Assad somewhat, however the removal of Assad is what the West is prepared to risk WW3 to achieve. It is remarkable really. Our Parliament has unleashed hell's fury on the Middle East, millions have died, tens of millions made homeless and freezing - all due to our actions in this country. We hide Yemen and the abuses of our allies, protect corporations which exploit and destroy the planet. And yet this 'We', this 'West' is completely detached from the populations. Parliament pretends we are involved. They will not listen to me or anyone else. They are following a plan, all the experts are aware of that and it proceeds. It does not work but that is not important to the wishful thinkers who see a world government beckoning. We see the end of humanity. How many sold souls are speaking on TV to me though. Their consciences are unbearable unless they live in denial which they do. How awful to be a nodding dog there today and one of the most despised humans ever the next.
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Old 06-12-2016, 03:21 PM   #998
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Hi all. I started this thread over 4 years ago and almost all the posts have been mine. I now consider it redundant and wonder if anyone can tell me how to delete it or whether a moderator can do that for me.
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Old 07-12-2016, 09:19 PM   #999
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Hi reve,

Please wait a moment !

I see that thread for the first time , i want to read in it.

Thank you.
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Old 07-12-2016, 10:14 PM   #1000
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Hi ,

just looked into your thread somewhere and found the sentence: "the god Amen" ..

That helped me very much to understand more and I got the answer for a question, that I have had.

Thank you
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