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Old 27-02-2010, 09:52 PM   #21
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I worked for a sales company in the past where the sales structure and approach was very aggressive.

We were targeted to achieve a designated goal per month, usually an average number of sales. If we achieved this and within time, was that the end of the pressure? Most definately not, because then we were pushed to make up the shortfall for others on the team who failed to deliver.

Where is this leading you may ask?

Well, I could never understand why they needed to be so aggressive to achieve and acquire so much in so little time. When they went bust overnight and disappeared owing millions I realised the answer.

They were a dodgy company and they knew their days were numbered so snatched as much as they could as quickly as they could.

This very behaviour is seen right now by the banks, governements etc. I am in no doubt that something similar is happening on a bigger scale.
That is one of THE best analogies i have ever heard. Literally. excellent pri01
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Top thread this tracker
Well done mate I thought it was going to go all 'sensationalist' in the first couple of pages, but i'm pleasantly surprised at the composure of the posts, it makes the logic of the situation all the more apparent.
cheers people
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TPTB now prepping for Immediate global catastrophe
Talk about a 180 degree change of opinion.
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I hope those reading this understand what the term Pole reversal means.
It means the Earths magnetic poles switch, with your compass needle for those in the northern hemisphere, would now point south.

IT DOES NOT MEAN that the north pole and south pole switch places. This would require the Earth to flip 180 degrees, a near physical impossibility.

The implications of a MAGNETIC pole reversal would be small, you would need to paint the south end of your compass needle red, and scrape off the paint on the north end of the needle.

All other magnets would need to be re-labeled too.

hhm , you might then ask why is the south pole , now white as snow , once green lushy land like a jungle ?and why greenland is called that name but is not green .
where desert was also once green , now sand .

yes rotating 180 degrees might not happen butit can turn about 120 or less .

you neither have the authority over such subjects or historical facts to say "it is impossible" , so do remember that next time you post something as final like that .

but not only will earths magetic pole shift , all electrical instruments will also have to shift polarity .

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Old 27-02-2010, 10:39 PM   #25
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Lucas the guy presenting the scenario in these 13 vids let slip that he believes IT will be the end of this year and not 2012 for the cataclysm to come.

originaly posted by..iaintoff

http://the-rabbits-hole.com/?p=22
ME too !

I did reas the bible once all the way through .

the warning is for the 11th hour .

this means 2010 !

how do i explain this ?

from 0 oclock to 1 am is the ist hour
from 1 to 2 is the second
2 to 3 is the 3rd
thus the 11th hour is indeed between 2010 and 2011. thus the eleventh hour is 2010 .

this year .

we shall soon see .

all this 2012 mixing with the mayan calander ?

now you know why no one knows the day of the lord and which hour , because of all the confusion .

we are told a time

the 11th hour .
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Talk about a 180 degree change of opinion.

how in what way ?

I have made many threads on this ,
obviously you pick the threads to suit your wanting .

and is that all you got from this thread ?

no wonder this forum has problems .

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Old 27-02-2010, 10:42 PM   #27
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Well done mate I thought it was going to go all 'sensationalist' in the first couple of pages, but i'm pleasantly surprised at the composure of the posts, it makes the logic of the situation all the more apparent.
cheers people
I have thought about this for a while now

years back I knew that when powerfulpeople get desperate for money , that as usual they would hand out false flags for people to look at whilst THEY prepare for things .
its how they have always done things .

thankyou for the compliments , I am rather uplifted by them .

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Lucas the guy presenting the scenario in these 13 vids let slip that he believes IT will be the end of this year and not 2012 for the cataclysm to come.

originaly posted by..iaintoff

http://the-rabbits-hole.com/?p=22

Hi
I recently came across this thread on the ATS Forum...a series of posts by an alleged 'member of the elite/insider'...giving an actual date of a global catastrophe [11 Oct, 2011]. Somehow this series of posts has a 'ring of truth/inside knowledge' feeling to them. After initial skepticism by ATS posters, the general mood became more that he was and knows what he's is saying...however who knows!! Yes, the current events seem to fit what Lucas and Tracker are contending.
I will post just a few of his posts at bottom. There is also this interview with an ex-military person on Project Camelot giving the same information.

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/an...script_en.html

The Anglo-Saxon Mission: Bill Ryan's Presentation
16 February 2010
Click here for the original video

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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476788/pg2
Originally posted by ET_MAN
I come with a message,

A world disaster will occur causing a cataclysm event on the horizon that will bring coast lines far inland around the world, super storms never before seen in history will occur as a result of this, earthquakes will be seen on a scale unheard of.

This warning is something not to be taken lightly, this message is not to spread fear but to spread awareness and knowledge so those around you may start mentally and spiritually preparing for such an event.

Many compartmentalized societies have been planning for these events.

Most of you know within what lies ahead but you must now come to the realization of it. You are here on earth now at this time for a specific reason and those who are here for such reasons already know inside what they must do. It is within you, all answers will be found within yourself. Follow inner feelings as your physical mind is incapable of connecting with such knowledge.

I will be offering information and will plainly tell you of unspoken things happening in the world and about to take place with a look at what has been right in plain sight. Things are intentionally placed in plain sight as to bring them to pass, most do not realize all that is out there. Compartmentalized groups have been working together knowing these times are very near and preparing for such events.

These events have been intentionally kept and hidden from the world and public.

Become aware of what is soon to come, I will further explain what more is not being shown or told you. I will go into further details on what events will take place, how and when. For those wondering who am I and what source has brought me such information I plainly say it is within you to know if my words are true or not. I cannot share with you who I am or what I know only that I am a voice coming forward with a whisper and warning hoping some will listen who were meant to hear.

[...]
reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 06:53 AM by ET_MAN_MAN
3D matter that earth is made of including your body comes in infinite layers, if you were to peal the layers you could never reach the center. Within this world and above this world are infinite dimensions, times, and densities. These other dimensions and worlds exist on, above, within, below and beneath earth, your consciousness and physical world resides within layers of other times, dimensions of lesser and greater densities that are infinitely connected.

All matter is equivalent and equal to what you perceive to be the universe. The universe exists within and without all things, your biological body is infinite in space with no end. This is the very philosophy that man has struggled with because of the limits placed upon understanding and comprehension of what the word infinity really means. The concepts of infinity can vaguely be understood but never comprehended or seen by man. Your body is infinite in space and never ending inwards and outwards and in all directions, times, densities and dimensions.

You can travel to a destination half way forever never reaching that destination. All matter is equal in space there can be nothing greater or lesser as there can be no measurement for an object within the laws of infinite space. All things advance equally and are equal in all directions inwards and outwards. Intelligence is infinite, individual intelligence which you call your spirit or soul has progressed infinitely and is equal to all that is, nothing is lesser or greater, bigger or smaller as there is no measurement to one’s growth only continual progression, evolution , advancement.

Spheres are eternally infinite in size and can be cut into half or doubled in size infinitely with no end. Consciousness and intelligence of an individual is the same as a sphere and can be infinitely doubled or cut in half with no end. You are made up of intelligence and are infinitely advancing through infinite experiences, you have always existed, death of this 3d material world is another stage, transition and process into infinite progression. All things consist of oppositions from light to dark, positive to negative with polarities. There are unseen energies forces necessary for advancement that are adversaries to the positive as negative pushes against positive this allows the process of advancement to occur.

Extraterrestrials exist within, above and below our density in upper and lower dimensions. Within time is another time and an infinite amount of times with an infinite amount of space and dimensions. As an example, dinosaurs exist and can be seen today in another dimension in time and past, as future and past is nothing more than a separation of present, today is everyday if time is frozen. Time can go backwards and time can go forwards or time can sit still.

This 3D Reality is based on illusion and time is illusion, a human biological clock is constantly ticking and programmed to accept nothing more than forwards like your computer believing backwards to be an improbability. The biological body and conscious mind keeps the physical body and mind in the present. The revolutions of the earth and movement of the sun keep man from passing the third dimension and viewing lesser or greater densities in time allowing access beyond the illusion of time with infinite possibility both backwards, forwards, inwards and outwards.

Extraterrestrials have been working for and against mankind from the time man was placed on earth and for purposes of opposition and order. There are infinite amounts of worlds similar to this one with races of man like on earth in this dimension and endless others. There is no such thing as the center of the universe, there is no center, side, front, end or top all is equally placed as there are no limitations in all directions inwards and outwards infinitely within and without. Dimensions of all sizes exist with no end. Your body is equivalent to what you consider to be the universe, so is a grain of sand, a particle is equivalent to the universe you know. Nothing lesser, greater or more than, all things are on a different level of progression and equal.

What will happen in October of 2011, a brown dwarf star yet to be seen in this dimension/time will intersect from a parallel time/dimension passing your sun causing change. This will affect orbital paths, weather and cause a cataclysmic event within your dimension. The earth comes to a complete stop before reverse polarity will occur changing consciousness, time, dimension and density. Those who survive this event must survive the change in consciousness and physical changes that will occur as this dimension will intersect with another.

[...]
I have come to you with a specific date, a date that has been known many years in advance. You are not required to believe in this date, you are not required to reply. I have asked nothing of you, I have chosen not to answer questions due to current circumstances. Some of you feel you are ready to hear, I am sure you are not and for many reasons, it would effect your lives in a negative way, not many could take it ,you cannot see yet what I have been shown to understand really what I mean, it is something you must find out for yourself in due time. You have not heard nor has anyone told you of the things I am referring to though some things have been hinted by others. These things can and would disturb your lives and families forever especially if I was to prove my report, it is better to stay silent. I would rather you disbelieve all I say and go on your way with an awareness of October 11, 2011. Knowledge of what humans are being used for and ongoing manipulation is a burden to carry, I have chosen not to burden you.

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Old 27-02-2010, 11:21 PM   #29
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There is line going through the Earth that goes through both poles. Think of that line as the axle and the Earth as spinning on that axle, like a cherry tomato pierced by a toothpick.
The spin of the Earth is fixed by the laws of physics. It is the same spinning motion that keeps a gyroscope standing. Have you ever played with a toy gyroscope?
As you held it in your hand, you could feel how it was difficult to tip it over against its axis of spin, the spinning mass actually resists being tipped away from its axis of spin.

Same with the Earth, but the Earth is much more massive than the spinning toy. To tip the Earth off its axis of spin is not impossible, it is just improbable because of the size of the hit necessary to move the Earth.

A very large asteroid or small moon could tip the Earth off its axis of spin, but a hit like that would physically deform the Earth and destroy everything.

But the Earth is also a very large magnet. It has a North magnetic pole and a South magnetic pole, just like the magnets in the science lab at school. The North magnetic pole and South magnetic pole are at opposite ends from each other and are located on Earth near the two PHYSICAL poles. These magnetic poles are always moving, and the distance of the North magnetic pole from the true physical North pole is called the magnetic deviation.

Sometimes the Earth undergoes pole reversals where the North becomes South and South becomes North. This pole reversal is recorded in the geological record and happens throughout geological history.

When you read reports about pole reversal, please understand that this refers ONLY to magnetic pole reversal.

What will happen during a magnetic pole reversal is unknown, since the last one took place millenia ago, so that is what the debate should be about, not what will happen if the physical poles reversed.
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If it happens, it happens, I don't see the point in freaking out about it. If I freak and get scared it won't help me when the day comes. We're all going to die one day. If we stay positive then at least we'll die with a smile on our faces. Like the conspiracy guy in the 2012 movie that this thread sounds like. He looked a volcano in the eye and laughed at it as it vapourised him. That's freedom.
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WOW thank you for taking your time to make this post .

it is greatfully and respectfully accepted as it is needed.

It has given this thread energy .

I hope it has the affect of my desire .

to inform others , that change is defo on the way and we must preparefor that change in what ways we can .
mentaly
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Old 27-02-2010, 11:42 PM   #32
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If it happens, it happens, I don't see the point in freaking out about it. If I freak and get scared it won't help me when the day comes. We're all going to die one day. If we stay positive then at least we'll die with a smile on our faces. Like the conspiracy guy in the 2012 movie that this thread sounds like. He looked a volcano in the eye and laughed at it as it vapourised him. That's freedom.
He revelled in it's beauty and epicness, it's exactly what I'd want to do.
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Old 27-02-2010, 11:43 PM   #33
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http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread476788/pg2
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I come with a message,

A world disaster will occur causing a cataclysm event on the horizon that will bring coast lines far inland around the world, super storms never before seen in history will occur as a result of this, earthquakes will be seen on a scale unheard of.

This warning is something not to be taken lightly, this message is not to spread fear but to spread awareness and knowledge so those around you may start mentally and spiritually preparing for such an event.

Many compartmentalized societies have been planning for these events.

Most of you know within what lies ahead but you must now come to the realization of it. You are here on earth now at this time for a specific reason and those who are here for such reasons already know inside what they must do. It is within you, all answers will be found within yourself. Follow inner feelings as your physical mind is incapable of connecting with such knowledge.

I will be offering information and will plainly tell you of unspoken things happening in the world and about to take place with a look at what has been right in plain sight. Things are intentionally placed in plain sight as to bring them to pass, most do not realize all that is out there. Compartmentalized groups have been working together knowing these times are very near and preparing for such events.

These events have been intentionally kept and hidden from the world and public.

Become aware of what is soon to come, I will further explain what more is not being shown or told you. I will go into further details on what events will take place, how and when. For those wondering who am I and what source has brought me such information I plainly say it is within you to know if my words are true or not. I cannot share with you who I am or what I know only that I am a voice coming forward with a whisper and warning hoping some will listen who were meant to hear.

[...]
reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 06:53 AM by ET_MAN_MAN
3D matter that earth is made of including your body comes in infinite layers, if you were to peal the layers you could never reach the center. Within this world and above this world are infinite dimensions, times, and densities. These other dimensions and worlds exist on, above, within, below and beneath earth, your consciousness and physical world resides within layers of other times, dimensions of lesser and greater densities that are infinitely connected.

All matter is equivalent and equal to what you perceive to be the universe. The universe exists within and without all things, your biological body is infinite in space with no end. This is the very philosophy that man has struggled with because of the limits placed upon understanding and comprehension of what the word infinity really means. The concepts of infinity can vaguely be understood but never comprehended or seen by man. Your body is infinite in space and never ending inwards and outwards and in all directions, times, densities and dimensions.

You can travel to a destination half way forever never reaching that destination. All matter is equal in space there can be nothing greater or lesser as there can be no measurement for an object within the laws of infinite space. All things advance equally and are equal in all directions inwards and outwards. Intelligence is infinite, individual intelligence which you call your spirit or soul has progressed infinitely and is equal to all that is, nothing is lesser or greater, bigger or smaller as there is no measurement to one’s growth only continual progression, evolution , advancement.

Spheres are eternally infinite in size and can be cut into half or doubled in size infinitely with no end. Consciousness and intelligence of an individual is the same as a sphere and can be infinitely doubled or cut in half with no end. You are made up of intelligence and are infinitely advancing through infinite experiences, you have always existed, death of this 3d material world is another stage, transition and process into infinite progression. All things consist of oppositions from light to dark, positive to negative with polarities. There are unseen energies forces necessary for advancement that are adversaries to the positive as negative pushes against positive this allows the process of advancement to occur.

Extraterrestrials exist within, above and below our density in upper and lower dimensions. Within time is another time and an infinite amount of times with an infinite amount of space and dimensions. As an example, dinosaurs exist and can be seen today in another dimension in time and past, as future and past is nothing more than a separation of present, today is everyday if time is frozen. Time can go backwards and time can go forwards or time can sit still.

This 3D Reality is based on illusion and time is illusion, a human biological clock is constantly ticking and programmed to accept nothing more than forwards like your computer believing backwards to be an improbability. The biological body and conscious mind keeps the physical body and mind in the present. The revolutions of the earth and movement of the sun keep man from passing the third dimension and viewing lesser or greater densities in time allowing access beyond the illusion of time with infinite possibility both backwards, forwards, inwards and outwards.

Extraterrestrials have been working for and against mankind from the time man was placed on earth and for purposes of opposition and order. There are infinite amounts of worlds similar to this one with races of man like on earth in this dimension and endless others. There is no such thing as the center of the universe, there is no center, side, front, end or top all is equally placed as there are no limitations in all directions inwards and outwards infinitely within and without. Dimensions of all sizes exist with no end. Your body is equivalent to what you consider to be the universe, so is a grain of sand, a particle is equivalent to the universe you know. Nothing lesser, greater or more than, all things are on a different level of progression and equal.

What will happen in October of 2011, a brown dwarf star yet to be seen in this dimension/time will intersect from a parallel time/dimension passing your sun causing change. This will affect orbital paths, weather and cause a cataclysmic event within your dimension. The earth comes to a complete stop before reverse polarity will occur changing consciousness, time, dimension and density. Those who survive this event must survive the change in consciousness and physical changes that will occur as this dimension will intersect with another.

[...]
I have come to you with a specific date, a date that has been known many years in advance. You are not required to believe in this date, you are not required to reply. I have asked nothing of you, I have chosen not to answer questions due to current circumstances. Some of you feel you are ready to hear, I am sure you are not and for many reasons, it would effect your lives in a negative way, not many could take it ,you cannot see yet what I have been shown to understand really what I mean, it is something you must find out for yourself in due time. You have not heard nor has anyone told you of the things I am referring to though some things have been hinted by others. These things can and would disturb your lives and families forever especially if I was to prove my report, it is better to stay silent. I would rather you disbelieve all I say and go on your way with an awareness of October 11, 2011. Knowledge of what humans are being used for and ongoing manipulation is a burden to carry, I have chosen not to burden you.

The Benevolent One's.
00000001111111

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WOW thank you for taking your time to make this post .

it is greatfully and respectfully accepted as it is needed.

It has given this thread energy .

I hope it has the affect of my desire .

to inform others , that change is defo on the way and we must preparefor that change in what ways we can .
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Yes...that's TWO sources that say Oct, 2011 is the date of the big one.
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He revelled in it's beauty and epicness, it's exactly what I'd want to do.
I admire his quixotic ways but I'd rather revel in its beauty from a survivable distance then explore the post apocalyptic wilderness. Unless there are zombies. Then it's no fun.
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What an awesome post!
it surely is one hell of a fantastic post isnt it .

I am unable to describe how it made me feel .

thanks to them this thread has a brilliant energy flowing right through it now .

it is indeed awsome.
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it surely is one hell of a fantastic post isnt it .

I am unable to describe how it made me feel .

thanks to them this thread has a brilliant energy flowing right through it now .

it is indeed awsome.
Isn't it just!

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That sounded good, until I saw where it came from.

Anything that comes from abovetopsecret is garbage. That forum is a CIA toy, they only let stuff through that is approved beforehand. Everythign that comes through that shithole of a forum must be taken with a grain of salt. Most of it is disinfo.
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Yes...that's TWO sources that say Oct, 2011 is the date of the big one.
The only source I am aware of, who got the ball rolling was Carl Johan Calleman.
That is the guy, who supposedly figured out the mayan calendar, setting Oct 2011.

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The only source I am aware of, who got the ball rolling was Carl Johan Calleman.
That is the guy, who supposedly figured out the mayan calendar, setting Oct 2011.


Hi

The other link I posted at the same time also mentions Oct 2011 as the date.

This interview also goes into some detail re TPTB plans/preparations/political moves to get the scenario they want into position by a certain date. It's well worth reading! It makes sense of the seemingly senseless moves that the public sees happening....i.e. their determination to start a war with Iran, and other plans.

It also points out that they are behind schedule/things aren't working out as they hope etc....happy days!!!!


http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/an...script_en.html

The Anglo-Saxon Mission: Bill Ryan's Presentation
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