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Old 20-06-2015, 11:14 AM   #18621
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"Some of us have been working on this for a month full-time"

And not taking the children for urgent medical treatment of course, unless they were worried the so called cult reaches as far as Morroco?
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Old 20-06-2015, 11:15 AM   #18622
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Look impartially at what the children describe as ritualistic elements (sacrifice, dancing). See anything remotely resembling "Satanism" as described by La Vey, Crowley, Aquino or contemporary self-declared Satanists? Some of them have made videos.
Compare the two sets of ritualistic elements. What the children describe is more like a pastiche of voodoo that you might see in a Scooby Doo cartoon.
People can't even agree on how to make a proper cup of tea much less the protocol for a satanic ritual! Look impartially at the commonalities: sex orgies, torture, bloodletting and drinking, murder. This is what should be recognised the world over as the elements of satanic ritual abuse. Satanists as in Crowley and Savile, liked dressing up in robes and spouting Latin as well but they weren't only there for the beer!

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Old 20-06-2015, 11:33 AM   #18623
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IN THE FAMILY COURT
Sitting at the Royal Courts of Justice

Just reading through snippets of the judgement


It seems way before all the Satanic accusations began Abraham Christie already had form for abusive behaviour at the school.

It had also already been noted on school records there was concern regarding the welfare of the children.
The school were worried that the children were not being fed well at home, as the children concerned had been complaining of being hungry while at school.

with their father.
~(24)There was intermittent concern about P’s relationship with her mother and also that both children were presenting as and complaining of being hungry at school.
(25) In May 2014, after a period of renewed involvement by the London Borough of Camden, Mr Dearman had contact with the children for the first time since October 2013. In that same month, the mother met Abraham Christie.
(26) On 4 June 2014, there was a scene in the playground at Christchurch School when Mr Christie was collecting P and Q at the end of the school day. He was loud and aggressive, accusing the teachers of poisoning the children by giving them the food supplied at the school. By the middle of June, according to Ms Draper, Mr Christie was staying over at her home on two or three nights each week.


conclusion.
This is insanity.
The school have supplied the children with food because the children made complaints of being hungry and Mr Christie accuses the school of poisoning the children with food.

Did Mr Christie take the children to A&E like most normal caring fathers would if he believed the children he is caring for have been poisoned?
If not, then he should not be incare of children, if he believes children have been poisoned yet does not take them to receive medical attention immediately.
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Old 20-06-2015, 11:34 AM   #18624
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Has Abe's Rap Sheet surfaced yet?
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Old 20-06-2015, 11:45 AM   #18625
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It should also be about time for the Panama Porn to surface. (Conclusive proof of ED in porno queen mode and loving it, apparently). Should I get some beers in?
Personally i couldn't give two flying figs about Ella appearing in porn, not really something i would be interested in watching to be honest.

I'm much more interested in the little Moroccan Man's criminal past.
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Old 20-06-2015, 11:54 AM   #18626
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#18636
Already picked over to the bare bones. I know it's new to you, but part of the reason this thread is so weighty is because of the repetition.
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Old 20-06-2015, 11:58 AM   #18627
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"Some of us have been working on this for a month full-time"

And not taking the children for urgent medical treatment of course, unless they were worried the so called cult reaches as far as Morroco?
What you have observed was one of the first things i obsered too.

In the case of Abraham Christie shouting accusations at the school gates when Christ Church primary school fed his children/gf's children because the children were complaining of being hungry, and when Christie found out they had been feeding them, he accused them of poisoning the kids, yet did not take them to a doctor nor A&E to have it confirmed whether or not they had indeed been poisoned.

I know people on this thread will say "but it is a Satanic cult...even doctors and nurses are in on it...so Christie has nowhere to run...nowehere to hide".
Utter tripe.

He could take the two kids down to A&E and just tell staff that they are feeling unwell and displaying signs of sickness.
He does not even have to give a proper name.
He does not have to tell them that they are from Christ-church primary school and been poisoned by a Satanic cult.
If he just takes them to a hospital and simply says they are "unwell" the doctors and nurses without knowing anything about those kids, will be able to establish whether or not they have food poisoning.

In the case that he truelly believes the whole of Hamstead are in on it.
He has a car.
Jump in it, take them to A&E in a different city and dont tell them who u r
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:07 PM   #18628
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People can't even agree on how to make a proper cup of tea much less the protocol for a satanic ritual! Look impartially at the commonalities: sex orgies, torture, bloodletting and drinking, murder. This is what should be recognised the world over as the elements of satanic ritual abuse. Satanists as in Crowley and Savile, liked dressing up in robes and spouting Latin as well but they weren't only there for the beer!
So why use the word "satanic" if what you're describing is ritualistic abuse (e.g. dancing) devoid of any reference to a supernatural force? Why do you insist on using this label? What purpose do you think using such an erroneous label serves?

Your arguments are merely clutching at straws. Clearly you have your own motivations for really, really wanting the Hampstead "cult" to be real.
You refuse to see the clear evidence of coaching and violent coercion, of rehearsal and recital. You are unable to discern that the alleged activities are wholly incredible, impossible to have been concealed, in fact invented. Good luck with that but you're not fooling me (or anyone really).

The games that have been played by the hoax promotion campaign are clear for all to see. It's all well beyond any notion of the possibility of persuading someone that the cult was real, that ended sometime back in early April when the mechanics of the fabrication and the campaign promoting it were clearly exposed.
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:08 PM   #18629
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What is so enlightening about this thread is the factual evidence that people do NOT talk about.
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:11 PM   #18630
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What is so enlightening about this thread is the factual evidence that people do NOT talk about.
What factual evidence?
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:12 PM   #18631
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What is so enlightening about this thread is the factual evidence that people do NOT talk about.
I did not see you include any factual evidence in this statement.
I did not see any factual evidence included in all the other similar statements i have seen.
Do you have any particular factual evidence you think i need to see?
Or would you prefer i scroll through 933 posts and look through every link to try find it?
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:14 PM   #18632
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64 charges of violence.

Therefor certain people "on the side" of the children are campaigning for the children to be released and given back to a man that (a) has 64 charges of violence (b) would never be allowed a license to work with children (c) would never be applicable to adopt children (therefor could never be legally accepted as their legal guardian)

astonishing to find childs rights activists campaigning in the best interests of children for children to be re-united with a man of this calibre.

Not sure AC is even interested in the children.
Is it not the Mother he wants?




Does not strike me with his gelled slick black hair and bling as being a man that is overly interested in childrens welfare.
Abe is not interest in the children...It is my opinion he thoroughly dislikes them. You are correct. ..why are the believers campaigning to have these vulnerable children handed back to their mother, who is with a monster that kicked the children in the privates, hit them with spoons and kept them hungry, and we must not forget poured water over them while they were only wearing pants.
And...SHE stood by and allowed this torture. ...perhaps one of the believers could justify this for me. Would they allow their children to be within miles of such an aggressive demonic monster? If their answer is yes, then we must realise the people's mentality heading and supporting this campaign.

The young boy at the end of his interview was absolutely delighted that he would never have to see the vicious insane Abe again, he even realised that his useless betraying mother would take Abe's side..and assumed that his mother would not want to see her son after he had told the real truth, but the fear of Abe was stronger than the hope that his mother would protect him,

and to the poster. ..I think deleted their comment...apologies, I did not catch who it was that claimed the evidence presented in the judges report about the insane abuser CHRISTIE keeping the children hungry and then accusing the school of poisoning them....It is not old old old...far from it, it is proof and evidence that CHRISTIE is a demonic control freak, and his abuse was being metered out for a lot longer than just in Morocco.

As I said in an earlier post if people feel comfortable supporting a child abuser, that is their choice.

You only really have to look at the two idiot Mckenzie friends that have promoted this hoax. ..They have been involved in other hoaxes. .that is what they do. They lie, embellish, make up stories and pull the wool over the gullible's eyes.
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:15 PM   #18633
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What factual evidence?
To do with RD's internet 'activities'.
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:17 PM   #18634
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I did not see you include any factual evidence in this statement.
I did not see any factual evidence included in all the other similar statements i have seen.
Do you have any particular factual evidence you think i need to see?
Or would you prefer i scroll through 933 posts and look through every link to try find it?
I posted a link to a video this morning which points to 'some' of those activities.

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Old 20-06-2015, 12:18 PM   #18635
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To do with RD's internet 'activities'.
Why so vague? If you think you have anything of substance, you should just cut to the chase and state what it is.
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To do with RD's internet 'activities'.
That has been debunked ...you obviously missed that informative video and accompanying text. Just because you are shown something and told it is fact, or it is true, doesn't mean it is
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That has been debunked ...you obviously missed that informative video and accompanying text. Just because you are shown something and told it is fact, or it is true, doesn't mean it is
Where?
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:26 PM   #18638
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Where?
I get sick of wet nursing people that cannot be bothered to find things out for themselves. ...go and look for it. ..you then might find other information you have have not stumbled across before, which could prove enlightening
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:29 PM   #18639
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I seen a "believer" argue and show concerns a few pages back regarding why the children had been put under medical examination 3 times in one week.

I dont understand this concern from a "believer" however, as this was "also" a concern shared by the judicary.

(135) I was troubled too that the children were subjected to intimate examinations to search for further signs twice in five days. I regret that Dr Hodes was not asked exactly what she hoped to gain by the second examination positioning the children differently. The 2008 Review suggests, arising out of Myrhe’s 2001 study, that there are differences in the muscle tone in the two positions.


Conclusion: It seems while believers are concerned that Dr Hodes repeated efforts where to try find biased results in favour of non abuse, the Judicary were concerned that her prolonged and over exagerated efforts were an attempt to try find biased results in favour of abuse.
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Old 20-06-2015, 12:31 PM   #18640
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I get sick of wet nursing people that cannot be bothered to find things out for themselves. ...go and look for it. ..you then might find other information you have have not stumbled across before, which could prove enlightening
What a cop out. You and I know that the video YOU are referring to is deeply flawed. I'm actually referring to the video that I posted a link to this morning. The one that links RD's vitality website to the Hatton Gardens address. A very interesting address too.
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