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Old 22-08-2010, 10:23 AM   #41
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I was talking with some UNICEF charrity mugger the other day - explaining why I would not be signing up to assist them in the depopulation Agenda.

When I explained about Agenda 21, the poor girl in disbelief outright told me I was lying.... and them went on to tell me that there realy are too many people on the planet with too little resources.

What planet is she on.... there is plently to go round here - theres just a few greedy cunts at the top with way too much.
You hit the nail on the head there.

I think that the rule should be that anyone who wants to further the depopulation agenda will have to tell their children, grandchildren and all those who are nearest and dearest to them to bump themselves off and then they have to follow after them.

I have no doubt that there are nutters out there who would do such a thing but it would surely make most of them think twice and maybe reassess their position and wake up to the lies that surround this.
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Old 04-09-2010, 01:12 PM   #42
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I would like to post the link to a comprehensive article about Agenda 21:

http://randysright.wordpress.com/201...ll-affect-you/

Let me also note, that when talking with decent, educated people, they were aware about the alleged need for depupulation to 500 million humans on Earth, and they considered it OK.

Horrifying, isn't it?
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Old 05-09-2010, 12:21 AM   #43
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The Roots of the Global Green Climate Change Agenda


The populace of the Globe are being brought together as one under the false reincarnated Mother Gaia religion. This is guised in a more modern times veil in order to fool the populaces. The whole idea of this is to destroy national sovereignty, cultures and tongues whilst allowing for a one World system to be put in its place. A false system needs to be put in place to replace the old system of war. This is all so Roman elite families of the Holy Roman Empire can continue to control the World even without the old war systems always used in the past. The populaces are to be dumbed down and entertained to sleep whilst the plot thickens and continues until the Luciferian 'Great Work' is completed. A depopulation agenda during all this continues as sixty plus percent of the Global populace is to be removed from the planet as wished for by the 'Global 2000' report from the Club of Rome. What we are left with is a life of no jobs or hope during the Post Industrial Zero Growth Society as in the past when the British East India Company destroyed civilizations of the past.



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Old 10-09-2010, 10:06 AM   #44
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I would like to post the link to a comprehensive article about Agenda 21:

http://randysright.wordpress.com/201...ll-affect-you/

Let me also note, that when talking with decent, educated people, they were aware about the alleged need for depupulation to 500 million humans on Earth, and they considered it OK.

Horrifying, isn't it?
its so scary...thanks I like this blogg
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Old 10-09-2010, 12:25 PM   #45
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this is also part of it.....

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage523648/pg1

http://thetruthorthefight.wordpress....r-food-supply/
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Old 01-10-2010, 06:55 AM   #46
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Old 15-10-2010, 04:26 AM   #47
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The worlds NUMBER ONE PROBLEM is OVERPOPULATION DEFINIATELY.Anyone who doesnt agree seriously needs to pull their head out of the sand.
However if nations were able to control their immigration and refugee levels without interference from big business nations could simply decide whether they wanted all these hordes of humanity to settle in their nation or not which would have to rationally take into account their nations environment and economy and what was clearly sustainable for both and what wasnt!
Unfortunately this doesnt happen and nations are virtually blackmailed by Corps WTOs, GATTS, IMFS ETC.. that they must allow open borders at any cost to their peoples or nations natural environment.
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The worlds NUMBER ONE PROBLEM is OVERPOPULATION DEFINIATELY.Anyone who doesnt agree seriously needs to pull their head out of the sand.
However if nations were able to control their immigration and refugee levels without interference from big business nations could simply decide whether they wanted all these hordes of humanity to settle in their nation or not which would have to rationally take into account their nations environment and economy and what was clearly sustainable for both and what wasnt!
Unfortunately this doesnt happen and nations are virtually blackmailed by Corps WTOs, GATTS, IMFS ETC.. that they must allow open borders at any cost to their peoples or nations natural environment.
U'r obviously not introduced to venus project.The problem isn't human population,it's the way of life,industry to be more specific.We r consumer culture,we will consume to the point there is nothing left to consume.
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Old 19-10-2010, 03:44 PM   #49
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i encourage everyone to contact this web site and ask for the represenative in your local area,then ask them question about this agenda 21

www.iclei.org


i have found out myself who is behind the show here in southern ontario.
and the regional councilor in my home town,who is iclei's rep,is none other then a former mayor's son
how convenient !
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Old 20-10-2010, 02:28 PM   #50
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The New World Order is correct.

The planet cannot support this many humans.

We are already too many.

It is unfortunate they have to resort to global fascism as a remedy. But, the monkeys of Earth just don't get the concept of finite resources and exponential growth.

I would have preferred to have seen a gradual reduction of population (negative growth, not stabilized growth) via a two-child policy. 2.2 is the replacement ratio due to accidents, childhood illnesses, etc. So limiting couples to two children would eventually cause the world population to decrease without jack-booted tactics (other than enforcing the 2 child policy). The change would have not been noticed and readily accepted within a generation or two. Instead, the NWO insists on warfare, laboratory-created diseases, and artificial famines.

Anyone who has ever traveled to a third world country understands that the people are woefully ignorant about the environment and overpopulation. To say otherwise is foolish.


As we approach Soylent Green population numbers you will see more and more people understanding the NWO. They might prove to be the necessary evil needed to save ALL life on this planet. What a Catch 22.
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Old 21-10-2010, 04:02 AM   #51
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U'r obviously not introduced to venus project.The problem isn't human population,it's the way of life,industry to be more specific.We r consumer culture,we will consume to the point there is nothing left to consume.
A word of advise poster, since you are new here I ve been posting here for close to three years so i have a good idea what icke .com is about.
First of all dont go around making presumptions that all that post here even support or believe in anything icke states in his manifestos.
This includes fellow esoteric cult types like Jaques Fresco or Peter Joseph & their venus P which to me is nothing but Communism rehashed.

Oh one more thing, please dont start a whole series of posts defending it in this thread because there is already a Venus Project thread & that is the correct place for such discussions, discussions which i wont have a bar of either because i simply have no interest in the subject.
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Old 21-10-2010, 12:46 PM   #52
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The New World Order is correct.

The planet cannot support this many humans.

We are already too many.

It is unfortunate they have to resort to global fascism as a remedy. But, the monkeys of Earth just don't get the concept of finite resources and exponential growth.

I would have preferred to have seen a gradual reduction of population (negative growth, not stabilized growth) via a two-child policy. 2.2 is the replacement ratio due to accidents, childhood illnesses, etc. So limiting couples to two children would eventually cause the world population to decrease without jack-booted tactics (other than enforcing the 2 child policy). The change would have not been noticed and readily accepted within a generation or two. Instead, the NWO insists on warfare, laboratory-created diseases, and artificial famines.

Anyone who has ever traveled to a third world country understands that the people are woefully ignorant about the environment and overpopulation. To say otherwise is foolish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ

As we approach Soylent Green population numbers you will see more and more people understanding the NWO. They might prove to be the necessary evil needed to save ALL life on this planet. What a Catch 22.
Found this on another forum where they were discussing this topic. Is the guy below wrong?

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We are just overcrowded, not overpopulated

There are approximately 6 billion people in the world and there is 2.97 million square miles of land in the Island continent of Australia. 2.97 million square miles breaks down to 1 billion, 900 million, 800,000 acres which then converts down to 7,603,200,000 quarter acre blocks of land. So we could hypothetically give every person in the world a quarter acre block of land and they would all fit into an area the size of australia, each would have enough land that they could all have gardens and grow a substantial supply of their own food, and we would still have 1,603,200,000 quarter acre blocks, or an area roughly half the size of queensland left over - plus the entire rest of the world. Now just pause to let that sink in to your brain for a second. ALL the people, thats every man woman and child on earth would comfortably fit inside australia, each individual person could have a quarter acre block of land and we would STILL have half of queensland and the entire rest of the PLANET left totally unoccupied
Haven't read through the thread so if someone possibly mentioned it already I apologize.
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Old 21-10-2010, 02:26 PM   #53
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Found this on another forum where they were discussing this topic. Is the guy below wrong?



Haven't read through the thread so if someone possibly mentioned it already I apologize.
The problem with this mode of thinking is it doesn't take into account the ecological footprint of each of those humans.

Yes, overcrowding is already annoying. National parks, freeways, wherever. There are too many people to enjoy solitude anywhere.

It takes more than a quarter acre of land mass to support each human. Much of the land mass of Earth is unproductive. How many tomatoes can be grown in Antarctica? How many cattle can be raised in the Sahara desert? How much copper, zinc, iron, or coal can be mined from a quarter acre? How many acres of ocean surface are required to harvest tuna? How many acres of mountain surface are required for the snow/watershed for fresh water for that human? How many acres of forest are needed for that human's wood-framed home?

The population density compared to Earth's land mass is a simplistic and erroneous way of looking at overpopulation.

We are already maxed out population-wise. Quality of life has to be taken into account as well.

Sure, we as a species probably COULD support a doubled or even tripled population. But would you really want to live like cattle in a pen, glad for your morning ration of rice and water?
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You start to think like the Elite when you align with their Agenda 21. Thats what they want you to think, they fund all the studies and put money into organization which support their idealism. Take the Rothschild who's the environmentalist, the one who sailed around the world.

That should be a wake up call.

The PTB have the technology to minmize pollution and to make stuff through the use of nanotechnology. They could rid the world of all the dangerous chemical's, if they wanted to, but the arms of this octopus are making to much profit atm.

Hey!! Why not let the slaves do their job for them and make them guilty for living and procreating.

As for the population of the world growing exponentially over the coming years, I dont think that will happen. Western 1st world nation have a slow population growth rate, whether that's because of economic pressure or the desire of people wanting to experience more of the world through travel and buying toy's, i'm not so sure, yet the fact is we now have what is termed a nuclear family of 2.1 children per family. More people are dying of cancer at a younger age than ever before.

Immigrant's who come to 1st world countries still have the mind set in them from the hard life they experienced in their old countries, where death from wars and lack of food was their reality.There is that survival instinct which drives procreation, if you see your children dying before you do something in us makes us want to have more kids, it's nature. Once a generation or so passes in a 1st world country their children assimilate to the ways of which we have now. Small families.


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s for the population of the world growing exponentially over the coming years, I dont think that will happen. Western 1st world nation have a slow population growth rate, whether that's because of economic pressure or the desire of people wanting to experience more of the world through travel and buying toy's, i'm not so sure, yet the fact is we now have what is termed a nuclear family of 2.1 children per family. More people are dying of cancer at a younger age than ever before.

Immigrant's who come to 1st world countries still have the mind set in them from the hard life they experienced in their old countries, where death from wars and lack of food was their reality.There is that survival instinct which drives procreation, if you see your children dying before you do something in us makes us want to have more kids, it's nature. Once a generation or so passes in a 1st world country their children assimilate to the ways of which we have now. Small families.
Clearly spoken by someone that doesnt live in the big smoke or has never travelled outside Australia i assume, becuase i cant see how anyone could be so casual about the issue.
As for suppoting agenda 21 crap i dont believe in any such agenda I am voicing my own views on the issue its survivial yes survivial because I am competing for jobs,education against these hordes something you may not even have to worry about, also reality& common sense quality of life issues, driving my views on the issue not some liberal style which chardonnay socialist wants be more progressive than the others type view! So no I am not Greens voter nor is racism an evil word to me!.
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Go to the SA Premier's website and you will find a file called 'Local Agenda 21'. It contains the 30 plan for SA. You are free to interpret its contents however you wish.
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Clearly spoken by someone that doesnt live in the big smoke or has never travelled outside Australia i assume, becuase i cant see how anyone could be so casual about the issue.
Wrong on both counts. You shouldn't assume anything.


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As for suppoting agenda 21 crap i dont believe in any such agenda I am voicing my own views on the issue its survivial yes survivial because I am competing for jobs,education against these hordes something you may not even have to worry about, also reality& common sense quality of life issues, driving my views on the issue not some liberal style which chardonnay socialist wants be more progressive than the others type view! So no I am not Greens voter nor is racism an evil word to me!.

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IS YOUR TOWN/CITY/COUNTRY ON THE LIST

IF SO,PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS


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I would like to post the link to a comprehensive article about Agenda 21:

http://randysright.wordpress.com/201...ll-affect-you/

Let me also note, that when talking with decent, educated people, they were aware about the alleged need for depupulation to 500 million humans on Earth, and they considered it OK.

Horrifying, isn't it?
Yes it is horrifying and those decent educated people automatically think it will be 'those grubby people over there' who will be targeted first, not realising for one moment that they too are likely to be in the first batch to be culled.
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