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Old 11-01-2016, 01:01 PM   #1
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How Zionism Helped Create Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

On the propaganda level, the British served the Wahhabi takeover of Hijaz on three fronts. Firstly, they portrayed and argued that Ibn Saud’s invasion of Hijaz was motivated by religious fanaticism rather than by British imperialism’s geo-political considerations.[20] This deception is propounded to this day, most recently in Adam Curtis’s acclaimed BBC “Bitter Lake” documentary, whereby he states that the “fierce intolerant vision of wahhabism” drove the “beduins” to create Saudi Arabia.[21] Secondly, the British portrayed Ibn Saud’s Wahhabi fanatics as a benign and misunderstood force who only wanted to bring Islam back to its purest form.[22] To this day, these Islamist jihadis are portrayed in the most benign manner when their armed insurrections is supported by Britain and the West such as 1980’s Afghanistan or in today’s Syria, where they are referred to in the western media as “moderate rebels.” Thirdly, British historians portray Ibn Saud as an independent force and not as a British instrument used to horn away anyone perceived to be surplus to imperial requirements. For example, Professor Eugene Rogan’s recent study on the history on Arabs claims that “Ibn Saud had no interest in fighting” the Ottoman Empire. This is far from accurate as Ibn Saud joined the war in 1915. He further disingenuously claims that Ibn Saud was only interested in advancing “his own objectives” which fortuitously always dovetailed with those of the British Empire.

Therefore, it is very clear that the British Empire’s drive to impose Zionism in Palestine is embedded in the geographical DNA of contemporary Saudi Arabia. There is further irony in the fact that the two holiest sites in Islam are today governed by the Saudi clan and Wahhabi teachings because the Empire was laying the foundations for Zionism in Palestine in the 1920s. Contemporaneously, it is no surprise that both Israel and Saudi Arabia are keen in militarily intervening on the side of “moderate rebels” i.e. jihadis, in the current war on Syria, a country which covertly and overtly rejects the Zionist colonisation of Palestine.

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The above article which was posted in the 'headlines' section of this website today gives good insight into the creation of the current state of saudi arabia and of israel. These countries are now in alliance againts syria and iran which is why they are supporting ISIS

But one stand out part of the article was the method the imperialists used to achieve their ends. They sent T.E.Lawrence in to try and bribe certain leaders who they wished to sway and then when that failed they threatened them with violence. If threats did not work then they would arm their opponents and unleash them against them

This is the same approach used by the CIA today as discussed by John perkins in his 'confessions of an economic hitman'. Interestingly there have always been rumours around the death of T.E. lawrence in amotorcycle crash for example about a car being spotted on that day that may have caused the crash

Was lawrence silenced by the zionists to keep him quiet about the operations in that part of the world?
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Good thread. There's no doubt the British Empire created/used Wahhabism, the Arab nationalist revolts, & the House of Saud to bring down the Islamic Caliphate/Ottoman Empire. And they are still using radical spin-off movements today to prevent it from unifying again, & also to demonize the religion.
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Also see 'Memoirs of Mr. Hempher, British Spy to the Middle East', further evidence that the British elite were behind the creation of Wahhabism.
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It would not surprise me one bit.

The anglo american empire, use this to dominate areas, like they do with israel, and australia.

So i would not be surprised if they did such a thing, to control and dominate mulsims.
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Freemasons orchestrating a 'clash of civilisations' between christendom and islam...mainstream news article:

Chillingly accurate 200-year-old letter predicts WW3 and final battle against Islam
A LETTER written more than 200 years ago by a top military chief chillingly predicted the two world wars - before warning of a final "bloody" battle with Islam.

By Selina Sykes
PUBLISHED: 04:45, Thu, Mar 10, 2016

Albert Pike, who was a captain for the US army during the American Civil War, is said to have written a doctrine to an Italian politician outlining plans for the trio global conflicts.

The document allegedly suggested World War One was planned to overthrow the Tsars in Russia and make the country a communist stronghold

to read the rest: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/650...m-final-battle
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Totes agree with the OP.
The House of Saud is a western-banksters sock.
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How Israel Created the Fiend for the War on Terror
May 29, 2016

In reality, the War on Terror is an Israeli propaganda construct designed to deceive the West into destroying Israel’s enemies on behalf of the Zionist state.

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The Israeli construct was designed to get the U.S. to destroy the enemies of the Zionist state. The Israelis developed the War on Terror construct and then created the Islamic opponent, al Qaida, to serve as the antithesis – the virulent enemy of the West. The real purpose of al Qaida, and its subsequent iterations like ISIS, is to be a moving target used to destabilize and destroy sovereign countries, like Syria, while sustaining the illusion of an Islamic antithesis, posing a mortal threat to the security of the West. The Zionist-controlled media is the essential element in selling the fraudulent War on Terror to the public.

read more here http://www.bollyn.com/#article_15568
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From the early 1980s, the C.I.A. began a covert effort to support Afghan mujahideen in their ‘holy struggle’ or jihad, to remove the Red Army from Afghanistan. The allies who worked with the C.I.A. to arm the mujahideen were Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan.

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From Ickes headlines today:

Israel Is Fighting Your War
June 03, 2016 / Gilad Atzmon

The entire mess in the Middle East that has led to an immigration tsunami and millions of displaced refugees is the direct outcome of Israeli warmongering, relentless prowar Jewish lobbying (AIPAC, CFI, CRIFF, etc) and Zionist driven neocon immoral interventionist wars. It is Israel and the Jewish lobby that are directly responsible for the havoc in the Middle East and beyond.

The film portrays Isis as disinterested in Israel. The Isis bouncing stone skips over Israel. It aims at Europe. Actually, I would expect Israel to be targeted by the Islamic State. This is clearly not the case in the hasbara film. You may want to ask why.

http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016...hting-your-war
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To paraphrase Edmonds: though the collusion with radical Islam had been going on for decades, it wasn’t until 1996 that a formal decision was made by NATO to abandon their previous secret relationship with neo-Fascists and arch-Nationalists and replace them with Islamists.

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To paraphrase Edmonds: though the collusion with radical Islam had been going on for decades, it wasn’t until 1996 that a formal decision was made by NATO to abandon their previous secret relationship with neo-Fascists and arch-Nationalists and replace them with Islamists.

http://wideshut.co.uk/gladio-b-the-o...orist-proxies/
I doubt that's the case. They are merely propping up Islamists so they can demonize the religion & justify their own imperialist agenda. They are still very much aligned with neo-Fascists & ultra-nationalists. They are the 'reactionaries' who will lead the revolt against Islam.. problem, reaction, solution..
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And, of course, it's all the fault of the Jews! Quelle surprise!


Wahhabism has been in the world since the eighteenth-century. Small-scale to begin with, but globally promoted in recent decades by the Saudi oil billions.
And the House of Saud was founded in 1744.
Nothing to do with the Jews, how absurd!

And all this tripe about a British drive to create a Zionist state ... The Zionist Federation was shamelessly used by Lloyd George to serve British war interests (in WW1), as indeed the Bedouins were - to tie up Ottoman forces.

Lloyd George never honoured his 'promise'. Successive British Prime Ministers never honoured the 'promise'. The plan was officially abandoned in 1939, which is why Jewish insurgents were battling the British after WW2.
When the British mandate over Palestine ended, we walked out leaving no Israel and the Jews, as the British military believed, to be wiped out.
Due to not wanting to upset our oil deals with the Arabs and being decidedly anti-Semitic after the King David Hotel attack and the other insurgent attacks, we abstained in the UN vote.

Lloyd George may have stirred up Jewish nationalism, but equally so, his double-dealing stirred up Arab nationalism too.

The Kingdom of Hejaz and the Sutanate of Nejd asserted their own independence in the vacuum left by the fleeing Ottomans, and as it was nothing but sand, and as it contained the Muslim holy cities, which the British recognised would have inflamed the Muslim inhabitants of their Empire had they sought to annexe it, they left them to it.
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Freemasons orchestrating a 'clash of civilisations' between christendom and islam...mainstream news article:

Chillingly accurate 200-year-old letter predicts WW3 and final battle against Islam
A LETTER written more than 200 years ago by a top military chief chillingly predicted the two world wars - before warning of a final "bloody" battle with Islam.

By Selina Sykes
PUBLISHED: 04:45, Thu, Mar 10, 2016

Albert Pike, who was a captain for the US army during the American Civil War, is said to have written a doctrine to an Italian politician outlining plans for the trio global conflicts.

The document allegedly suggested World War One was planned to overthrow the Tsars in Russia and make the country a communist stronghold

to read the rest: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/650...m-final-battle
A well-known Leo Taxil hoax.
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And, of course, it's all the fault of the Jews! Quelle surprise!


Wahhabism has been in the world since the eighteenth-century. Small-scale to begin with, but globally promoted in recent decades by the Saudi oil billions.
And the House of Saud was founded in 1744.
Nothing to do with the Jews, how absurd!
In his book, The Dönmeh Jews, D. Mustafa Turan writes that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq. The Iraqi intelligence report also states that in his book, The Dönmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahhabis, Rifat Salim Kabar reveals that Shulman eventually settled in the Hejaz, in the village of al-Ayniyah what is now Saudi Arabia, where his grandson founded the Wahhabi sect of Islam. The Iraqi intelligence report states that Shulman had been banished from Damascus, Cairo, and Mecca for his “quackery.” In the village, Shulman sired Abdul Wahhab. Abdel Wahhab’s son, Muhammad, founded modern Wahhabism.

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In his book, The Dönmeh Jews, D. Mustafa Turan writes that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq. The Iraqi intelligence report also states that in his book, The Dönmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahhabis, Rifat Salim Kabar reveals that Shulman eventually settled in the Hejaz, in the village of al-Ayniyah what is now Saudi Arabia, where his grandson founded the Wahhabi sect of Islam. The Iraqi intelligence report states that Shulman had been banished from Damascus, Cairo, and Mecca for his “quackery.” In the village, Shulman sired Abdul Wahhab. Abdel Wahhab’s son, Muhammad, founded modern Wahhabism.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/new...t-part-ii.html
Someone unheard of in academic circles, but oft quoted in Neo-Nazi circles. Why do you think that is?

The founder of Wahhabism, Muhammed ibn Abd-al-Wahhab, was not Jewish. He was a Muslim. (The clue is in the name!)

A war was fought between the Sultanate of Nejad (ruled by the Sauds) and the Kingdom of Hejaz (ruled by the Sharif of Mecca) with the Sauds winning - in 1925. Seven years later the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia came into being.

The Wahhabism branch of Sunni Islam became the official form of Islam recognised and observed in Saudi Arabia.

Since the 70s especially, the Saudis have used their oil billions to aggressively promote Wahhabism, both directly - and indirectly, by globally supplying 'free' Korans and Islamic teaching materials that are slanted towards the Wahhabist religious and world view.

PS: Ayniyah is in Oman, west of Muscat.
Uyayna, in what is now Saudi Arabia, was the birthplace of al-Wahhabi
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In his book, The Dönmeh Jews, D. Mustafa Turan writes that Wahhab’s grandfather, Tjen Sulayman, was actually Tjen Shulman, a member of the Jewish community of Basra, Iraq. The Iraqi intelligence report also states that in his book, The Dönmeh Jews and the Origin of the Saudi Wahhabis, Rifat Salim Kabar reveals that Shulman eventually settled in the Hejaz, in the village of al-Ayniyah what is now Saudi Arabia, where his grandson founded the Wahhabi sect of Islam. The Iraqi intelligence report states that Shulman had been banished from Damascus, Cairo, and Mecca for his “quackery.” In the village, Shulman sired Abdul Wahhab. Abdel Wahhab’s son, Muhammad, founded modern Wahhabism.

http://www.strategic-culture.org/new...t-part-ii.html
That's correct about the Royal House of Saud. Also, the ruling elite in Turkey were and probably still are crypto-Jews.

"Ataturk’s suspected strong Jewish roots, information about which was suppressed for decades by a Turkish government that forbade anything critical of the founder of modern Turkey, began bubbling to the surface, first, mostly outside of Turkey and in publications written by Jewish authors.

The 1973 book, The Secret Jews, by Rabbi Joachim Prinz, maintains that Ataturk and his finance minister, Djavid Bey, were both committed Donmeh Jews and that they were in good company because “too many of the Young Turks in the newly formed revolutionary Cabinet prayed to Allah, but had their real prophet [Sabbatai Zevi, the Messiah of Smyrna].

In The Forward of January 28, 1994, Hillel Halkin wrote in The New York Sun that Ataturk recited the Jewish Shema Yisrael (“Hear O Israel”), saying that it was “my prayer too.” The information is recounted from an autobiography by journalist Itamar Ben-Avi, who claims Ataturk, then a young Turkish army captain, revealed he was Jewish in a Jerusalem hotel bar one rainy night during the winter of 1911.
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In addition, Ataturk attended the Semsi Effendi grade school in Salonica, run by a Donmeh named Simon Zevi.�Halkin wrote in the New York Sun article about an email he received from a Turkish colleague: “I now know, I know (and I haven’t a shred of doubt) that Ataturk’s father’s family was indeed of Jewish stock.”

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from ickes headlines today...

Israel and Saudi Arabia: Best Friends Forever
By Makia Freeman -
01/06/2016

Israel and Saudi Arabia

have a snug and cozy relationship. They are, indeed, BFF or best friends forever as a typical Western teenage girl might label them. At first glance, it admittedly seems extremely odd that the Zionist regime of Israel, holding such an antagonistic presence towards Arabs in the Middle East, would be friends with arguably the most powerful Muslim nation in the region (alongside Iran). However, that is precisely what makes their allegiance so dangerous and nefarious. If you don’t look closely, you would never expect it. The truth is that these 2 nations have the same geopolitical aims and allies – which bodes ill for Palestine, Syria, Iraq and other “lesser” countries standing in their way. They have a number of common enemies, such as Iran, Shi’a Islam, Hamas, Hezbollah, pan-Arab nationalism and the Muslim Brotherhood. Understanding the depth and nature of the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia sheds a clear light on what is happening in the Middle East, the geopolitics of the US-UK-Zionist axis, and the New World Order push towards World War 3.
Israel and Saudi Arabia: Brief History of a Love Affair

To understand the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia, you first need to know how Saudi Arabia become a country. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) as it is formally called remains the only nation on the entire Earth to be named after and ruled by a single family (although in this there are already similarities with Israel, which is basically Rothschild-ville). As this writer points out in his article How Zionism helped create the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the British helped form the kingdom during the 1920s:

“The defeat of the Ottoman Empire by British imperialism in World War One, left three distinct authorities in the Arabian peninsula: Sharif of Hijaz: Hussain bin Ali of Hijaz (in the west), Ibn Rashid of Ha’il (in the north) and Emir Ibn Saud of Najd (in the east) and his religiously fanatical followers, the Wahhabis.”

read more here: http://www.zengardner.com/israel-sau...iends-forever/
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from ickes headlines today...

Israel and Saudi Arabia: Best Friends Forever
By Makia Freeman -
01/06/2016

Israel and Saudi Arabia

have a snug and cozy relationship. They are, indeed, BFF or best friends forever as a typical Western teenage girl might label them. At first glance, it admittedly seems extremely odd that the Zionist regime of Israel, holding such an antagonistic presence towards Arabs in the Middle East, would be friends with arguably the most powerful Muslim nation in the region (alongside Iran). However, that is precisely what makes their allegiance so dangerous and nefarious. If you don’t look closely, you would never expect it. The truth is that these 2 nations have the same geopolitical aims and allies – which bodes ill for Palestine, Syria, Iraq and other “lesser” countries standing in their way. They have a number of common enemies, such as Iran, Shi’a Islam, Hamas, Hezbollah, pan-Arab nationalism and the Muslim Brotherhood. Understanding the depth and nature of the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia sheds a clear light on what is happening in the Middle East, the geopolitics of the US-UK-Zionist axis, and the New World Order push towards World War 3.
Israel and Saudi Arabia: Brief History of a Love Affair

To understand the relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia, you first need to know how Saudi Arabia become a country. The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) as it is formally called remains the only nation on the entire Earth to be named after and ruled by a single family (although in this there are already similarities with Israel, which is basically Rothschild-ville). As this writer points out in his article How Zionism helped create the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, the British helped form the kingdom during the 1920s:

“The defeat of the Ottoman Empire by British imperialism in World War One, left three distinct authorities in the Arabian peninsula: Sharif of Hijaz: Hussain bin Ali of Hijaz (in the west), Ibn Rashid of Ha’il (in the north) and Emir Ibn Saud of Najd (in the east) and his religiously fanatical followers, the Wahhabis.”

read more here: http://www.zengardner.com/israel-sau...iends-forever/
I read the article. Hard to take anyone seriously who believes the Balfour Declaration was done "at the prompting of the Rothschilds".

Lloyd George devised what became the Balfour Declaration. When it had cleared Parliament, Balfour went TO Walter Rothschilds with the proposal. Rothschilds had no input whatsoever into the Balfour Declaration, other than to lap it up when it was offered to him.
Primary school history!

What that fellow says about the Sharif of Mecca is also nonsense. The British were perfectly happy to have Hussein bin Ali in place as the Sharif of Mecca. And they were equally happy to grant control of Iraq and TransJordan to his sons Faisal and Abdullah. Look at the map - a vast area of land. And they had an issue with him???

There was a long running dispute between Hejaz and Nejd, which culminated in the final war and victory for the Sauds.
Britain kept out of it. They had no designs on the region and never had. It was nothing but sand and they knew British occupation of the Islamic holy cities would have sparked a global jihad against British citizens and British interests.

British military power thwarted Saud ambitions to expand north into TransJordan and south into Aden.

The
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I read the article. Hard to take anyone seriously who believes the Balfour Declaration was done "at the prompting of the Rothschilds".

Lloyd George devised what became the Balfour Declaration. When it had cleared Parliament, Balfour went TO Walter Rothschilds with the proposal. Rothschilds had no input whatsoever into the Balfour Declaration, other than to lap it up when it was offered to him.
Primary school history!

What that fellow says about the Sharif of Mecca is also nonsense. The British were perfectly happy to have Hussein bin Ali in place as the Sharif of Mecca. And they were equally happy to grant control of Iraq and TransJordan to his sons Faisal and Abdullah. Look at the map - a vast area of land. And they had an issue with him???

There was a long running dispute between Hejaz and Nejd, which culminated in the final war and victory for the Sauds.
Britain kept out of it. They had no designs on the region and never had. It was nothing but sand and they knew British occupation of the Islamic holy cities would have sparked a global jihad against British citizens and British interests.

British military power thwarted Saud ambitions to expand north into TransJordan and south into Aden.

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to believe that the rothschilds were just sitting around twiddling their thumbs when the british government dropped this proposal in their lap shows a level of delusion that is only born from prejudice

The rothschilds have been exerting behind the scenes influence on the british government for a long time now. they even got their son in law lord rosebery elected prime minister as well as getting a jewish prime minster elected: disraeli

They got their claws into the economy by tricking everyone in the wake of the battle of waterloo to sell all their stocks cheaply which the rothschild bought up and they've had their claws into the british government for a long time

You are clearly a rothschild apologist who is against everything this forum was set up for which is to expose the nefarious influence of the cabal on our society

But you will fail in your mission, knight of israel, to cognitively infiltrate this forum
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