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Old 26-04-2009, 04:32 AM   #1
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From Patricia Doyle, PhD
4-25-9



Hello Jeff -

I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO 'PREVENT' THIS FLU.

Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu 1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick. I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.

Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu. What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic strains.

There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up. The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other condition.

An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu. It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in the vaccine. I feel that people can better protect themselves by washing hands often and thoroughly. People should also use protective gloves when out and about during epidemics. Don't be afraid of "looking odd." I would not be ashamed to use a mask and gloves. I see that the Mexicans are using them.

A big problem during a pandemic is that these simple supplies will become extremely scarce awfully quickly. Stock up now. Medical supplies. personal hygene supplies and don't forget fido, or any other pet. Once a pandemic hits, it will be too late to stock up. Water, too.
We may lose clean water and electric power, so be prepared.

So, please, people, DON'T TAKE ANY VACCINES OFFERED. THEY COULD KILL YOU BEFORE ANY VIRUS KILLS YOU.

Pat Doyle


Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board at: http://www.emergingdisease.org/phpbb/index.php Also my new website: http://drpdoyle.tripod.com/ Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa Go with God and in Good Health
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Old 26-04-2009, 05:14 AM   #2
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They're discussing this on Coast right now.

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Old 26-04-2009, 09:33 AM   #3
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Ive posted this on another thread.. but its mad that in 1975 they screened a series on the bbc called Surviours - top line review - everyone dies cause of flu virus... and then of course the info above..


...and then, in 2008 refilm the series and stick it on tv at the end of the year

Now, as I dont believe in coincendence and im not a thick twat.. it all seems a bit suss..Doesnt it?

I can hear people chatting as they line up to get their jab.. about that programme on tv a few months ago, the one where everyone died

Im sure this is obvious but thought id post anyway been trying to see if there has been anything on american tv or on ure side of the ball.. just wondered really. It's just so blatant it really is..

of course, hopefully this will all blow over and this time next week.. we'll be back to 'boring posts'
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Old 26-04-2009, 09:50 AM   #4
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Ive posted this on another thread.. but its mad that in 1975 they screened a series on the bbc called Surviours - top line review - everyone dies cause of flu virus... and then of course the info above..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors

...and then, in 2008 refilm the series and stick it on tv at the end of the year

Now, as I dont believe in coincendence and im not a thick twat.. it all seems a bit suss..Doesnt it?

I can hear people chatting as they line up to get their jab.. about that programme on tv a few months ago, the one where everyone died

Im sure this is obvious but thought id post anyway been trying to see if there has been anything on american tv or on ure side of the ball.. just wondered really. It's just so blatant it really is..

of course, hopefully this will all blow over and this time next week.. we'll be back to 'boring posts'
it is weird how the bbc run a five part series on this not to mention all the disaster documenterieslast year that coupled with all the recent large scale major iccident training the emergency services have been doing adds up to be a bit fishy imo
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Egads, they really like putting it right in front of our noses dont they
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Old 26-04-2009, 02:34 PM   #6
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Do Not Take A
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From Patricia Doyle, PhD
4-25-9



Hello Jeff -

I am making a plea to everyone who reads this, please, please DO NOT TAKE ANY VACCINE THAT IS PURPORTED TO 'PREVENT' THIS FLU.

Remember 1976 and the so called Swine Flu outbreak that was purported to be a coming pandemic? It only infected recruits at Ft. Dix. Why? Because I believe that the so called Swine Flu virus infected the recruits due to the vaccines they were given. Whether the government developed the Swine Flu 1976 virus and infected the recruits as a means to test the public to see if people would comply with a call to take vaccination against Swine Flu, or the recruits became infected via contaminated vaccine they were given as part of the recruit regimen, that outbreak was as phony as they come. I was one of the people duped into taking a Swine Flu shot and it made me so sick. I was sick in bed for three months after taking the vaccine.

Do not take seasonal flu vaccine if you are told that it could help prevent this brand new Swine Flu variant. It won't do a thing to prevent this flu. What it will do is serve up new genetic material to the Swine Flu virus that I have dubbed Spanish Flu 2, the Sequel. The Spanish Flu variant will use the gene sequences in the vaccine in humans to develop more of the changes that make the virus more readily infect humans. We do not want to give this virus more human genetic material so that it will infect humans more readily person to person. This is what vaccinated individuals do for pandemic strains.

There is also a safety issue in any experimental vaccine, much like the one in 1976. Some people even feel that such a vaccine for pandemic strain might require more than one vaccination which could actually be a binary set up. The first shot might just add some genetic code that stays dormant in the body until one gets the second vaccine shot which then serves to only cause infection. It could trigger Guillain-barre syndrome, Typhus or some other condition.

An Influenza vaccine does not protect or prevent a person from contracting flu. It is purported to, maybe, prevent some complications of flu and maybe shorten duration. I am not even sure it does that. Personally, I feel the vaccine weakens our immune system and also sickens us due to contaminants in the vaccine. I feel that people can better protect themselves by washing hands often and thoroughly. People should also use protective gloves when out and about during epidemics. Don't be afraid of "looking odd." I would not be ashamed to use a mask and gloves. I see that the Mexicans are using them.

A big problem during a pandemic is that these simple supplies will become extremely scarce awfully quickly. Stock up now. Medical supplies. personal hygene supplies and don't forget fido, or any other pet. Once a pandemic hits, it will be too late to stock up. Water, too.
We may lose clean water and electric power, so be prepared.

So, please, people, DON'T TAKE ANY VACCINES OFFERED. THEY COULD KILL YOU BEFORE ANY VIRUS KILLS YOU.

Pat Doyle


Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board at: http://www.emergingdisease.org/phpbb/index.php Also my new website: http://drpdoyle.tripod.com/ Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa Go with God and in Good Health
Thanx so much for posting this ! I have copied to friend in NZ...and I will copy this to as many as I can...the message has to get out for the sheeples not to be taken in on this vaccine scam !

Thanx again, this really hit the nail on the head for me as being a truth
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Old 26-04-2009, 02:40 PM   #7
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Thanx so much for posting this ! I have copied to friend in NZ...and I will copy this to as many as I can...the message has to get out for the sheeples not to be taken in on this vaccine scam !

Thanx again, this really hit the nail on the head for me as being a truth
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Old 26-04-2009, 02:44 PM   #8
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Flu vaccines are absolutely useless and are being used to rake in big profits by the makers of the vaccines. If no one got a flu vaccine a certain percentage of the population would get the flu. Guess what? The same percentage of the population gets the flu anyway even tho so many millions of people go out like dumb lemmings and get the shots. And of the people who got the shots, the same percentage of those get the flu as the people who did not get the shots. It is all one big scam driven by greed and propoganda. They use fear to make people think that if they don't get the shot they will get the flu and die.

What they never tell anyone is that they have to begin making the vaccines at least a year in advance, which means they have to guess what strain of flu will hit at least a year later, and then design a vaccine to match that strain. They rarely ever get that right, which means that flu shot is not gonna do a damn thing except inject more toxic chemicals that you cannot even identify straight into your blood stream.

Besides all that, do people reallly want someone they do not know sticking a needle in their arm from a syringe filled with a substance that they have no idea what it really is? It's insane. Think about who makes the vaccines. These are the same corporations that make pharmaceuticals that kill tens of thousands of people every year, and who are allowed to get away with it. Nuff said.
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Try and inform the ignorant people on Yahoo Answers as well not to get the vaccine... no matter what.

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OMG! Do I have the deadly dangerous Mexican Pig Flu???? HELP ME!?
I just got back from WalMart and a mexican seniorita was my cashier. She breathed on me and touched all my food. Am I contaminated?
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Old 26-04-2009, 03:38 PM   #11
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This company already has a bad history with flu vaccine.
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Updated: 9:22 p.m.

Ill-based Baxter working on swine flu vaccine

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    9:22 PM CDT, April 25, 2009

DEERFIELD, Ill. - Specialty drug maker Baxter International Inc. will work with the World Health Organization to develop a vaccine that could stem an outbreak of a deadly swine flu strain in Mexico.

Baxter spokesman Christopher Bona said Saturday that the Deerfield, Ill.-based company has asked the WHO for a sample of the flu strain.

He says Baxter has patented technology that allows the company to develop vaccines in half the time it usually takes -- about 13 weeks instead of 26.

There have been 20 confirmed deaths in Mexico of the swine flu, with nonfatal cases also confirmed in Kansas and California.

Humans don't have a natural immunity to swine flu strain that emerged in Mexico in March. Officials have warned the outbreak could become a global epidemic.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...,3167746.story
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Vaccines as Biological Weapons? Live Avian Flu Virus Placed in Baxter Vaccine Materials Sent to 18 Countries
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor

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(NaturalNews) There's a popular medical thriller novel in which a global pandemic is intentionally set off by an evil plot designed to reduce the human population. In the book, a nefarious drug company inserts live avian flu viruses into vaccine materials that are distributed to countries around the world to be injected into patients as "flu shots." Those patients then become carriers for these highly-virulent strains of avian flu which go on to infect the world population and cause widespread death.

There's only one problem with this story: It's not fiction. Or, at least, the part about live avian flu viruses being inserted into vaccine materials isn't fiction. It's happening right now.

Deerfield, Illinois-based pharmaceutical company Baxter International Inc. has just been caught shipping live avian flu viruses mixed with vaccine material to medical distributors in 18 countries. The "mistake" (if you can call it that, see below...) was discovered by the National Microbiology Laboratory in Canada. The World Health Organization was alerted and panic spread throughout the vaccine community as health experts asked the obvious question: How could this have happened?

As published on LifeGen.de (http://www.lifegen.de/newsip/showne...), serious questions like this are being raised:

"Baxter International Inc. in Austria 'unintentionally contaminated samples with the bird flu virus that were used in laboratories in 3 neighbouring countries, raising concern about the potential spread of the deadly disease'. Austria, Germany, Slowenia and the Czech Republic - these are the countries in which labs were hit with dangerous viruses. Not by bioterrorist commandos, but by Baxter. In other words: One of the major global pharmaceutical players seems to have lost control over a virus which is considered by many virologists to be one of the components leading some day to a new pandemic."

Or, put another way, Baxter is acting a whole lot like a biological terrorism organization these days, sending deadly viral samples around the world. If you mail an envelope full of anthrax to your Senator, you get arrested as a terrorist. So why is Baxter -- which mailed samples of a far more deadly viral strain to labs around the world -- getting away with saying, essentially, "Oops?"

But there's a bigger question in all this: How could this company have accidentally mixed LIVE avian flu viruses (both H5N1 and H3N2, the human form) in this vaccine material?

Was the viral contamination intentional?
The shocking answer is that this couldn't have been an accident. Why? Because Baxter International adheres to something called BSL3 (Biosafety Level 3) - a set of laboratory safety protocols that prevent the cross-contamination of materials.

As explained on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosaf...):

"Laboratory personnel have specific training in handling pathogenic and potentially lethal agents, and are supervised by competent scientists who are experienced in working with these agents. This is considered a neutral or warm zone. All procedures involving the manipulation of infectious materials are conducted within biological safety cabinets or other physical containment devices, or by personnel wearing appropriate personal protective clothing and equipment. The laboratory has special engineering and design features."

http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html

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Problem is that I am sure I will get the vaccine because my parents will force me, because the government will force them.
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Smallpox: Bringing a Dead Disease Back to Life
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[excerpted from the 7th ed. of The Sanctity of Human Blood]

With a flair worthy of PT Barnum and Edward L Bernays, mainstream media is lately employing a brilliant menage of pseudoscience and well-edited history to concoct a new myth out of thin air: terrorists are about to release smallpox as a bioweapon that could decimate our population. But soft! - our ever-vigilant security forces are ready. Government leaders with degrees in law, not science, have decided to prepare enough vaccine to inoculate every American. And to empower themselves to legislate the vaccine's administration, sanctioned by severe penalties for refusal. [12]

Price tag for the new doses: over $800 million. [28] But what is money when compared with the health and security of the American people?

Answer: it's still money.

Almost every day a new story comes out in the major news Matrix about the coming threat and the vaccine that will save us. In true Edward L Bernays fashion, [13] the features are generally written by the "health correspondent" with the requisite lack of credentials, disregard of history, and the standard formidable barrage of uncited and anonymous sources.

But we are not taken in, not us, because we know that forgetting history, we are destined to repeat it. So let's try something unknown to the meretricious press - let's review the actual history and science of smallpox and apply it to the present.

WHAT WAS SMALLPOX?

Smallpox was an infectious viral disease which was evident for centuries in places with poor sanitation, poverty, and malnutrition. Hundreds of thousands died, and there was no cure. The infectious agent was Orthopox variola. [2] By the end of the 18th century the disease was following the natural course: burning itself out on the human population, confining itself to those with the lowest immune capabilities.

Smallpox was the first disease for which vaccination was tried. It all started with Edward Jenner at the end of the 1700s.

The story that we find in 99% of standard references is that Jenner's vaccine saved the world from the dread smallpox, which had plagued the human race for centuries. Mass inoculation programs were instituted in many countries worldwide, usually backed by the government. The vaccine supposedly immunized people for life. If the legend starts to sound a little whitewashed, there's a reason why. So let's start at the beginning.

EDWARD JENNER

as you may remember, was the English "physician" in the late 1700s who took note of an old superstition that milk-maids who got a mild disease known as cowpox supposedly didn't get smallpox. As an experiment, Jenner came up with the idea of drawing serum from an infected cowpox pustule on the skin of an infected milkmaid. He then injected the infected pus into a perfectly healthy person, on the theory that contact with this "milder" disease would allow the subject to develop immunity to the more deadly smallpox.

Jenner's theory was that this cow-pox is smallpox of the cow. Therefore, if you give a person cow-pox, it is the same as smallpox, only in a very mild form. And it would not be infectious.

And at midnight, the coach would turn back into a pumpkin?

Going even further out on a limb, Jenner himself absolutely declared that it is not that cow-pox is a preventive of smallpox but that it is smallpox itself. (Hadwen)

While Jenner is universally venerated today as mankind's deliverer from the scourge of infectious disease in probably 99% of references, a little different version of Jenner's rise to fame and wealth is summarized in Miller's book Immunizations, p 24. [9] Other sources from Jenner's own contemporaries who were less than enchanted with his idea of variolation appear throughout Anderson's The Facts Against Compulsory Vaccination, [7] the writings of Walter Hadwen, [5] and the very thorough research by Alfred Russell Wallace. [6]

From these writers we can learn a few details that most edited modern drafts of this story omit, such as:

* the utter lack of science underlying Jenner's original claim of immunity from vaccines

* the number of deaths and disfiguring cases his experiments brought to those unsuspecting patients who were unfortunate enough to be talked into trying Jenner's injections during those early years.

Even from the beginning, after inoculating his very first patient - 8 year old James Phipps - Jenner absurdly maintained that his injections were conferring lifetime immunity:

"what renders the cowpox virus so extremely singular is that the person who has been thus affected is for ever after secure from the infection of the smallpox." - Jenner, 1797, cited in H.B. Anderson [7]

REALITY CHECK

Many of Jenner's own contemporaries were shocked at how easily the scientific community was taken in by this auteur. Perusing the work of Walter Hadwen MD, [5] celebrated English surgeon, author, and medical scholar of 100 years ago, we find a version of the Jenner story that is not so set in bronze as most of what we read today. Hadwen points out a few cracks in Jenner's pedestal:

- Jenner was no physician. He never passed a medical exam in his life, completed any course of medical study, or received a diploma from any medical school.

- Jenner bought his medical degree for £15 from St Andrew's College in Scotland, which he never attended (Hume, p 174 [17], also Hadwen [14])
- Jenner "tested" his theory on one patient, and then immediately claimed that he had "immunized" the patient against smallpox for life. Jenner also claimed that the vaccine would work universally. That's it. No controlled clinical trials, no years of research, nothing! One patient.

With no proof whatsoever, and a sample size of one, Jenner tricked the entire medical profession, then and now, into pretending that cowpox was smallpox in cows - a total scientific inaccuracy. And then he sold the idea that his vaccine was the cure. [5, 14]

WHEEL OF FORTUNE

Not long after his "breakthrough," Jenner's repeated petitions to the House of Commons struck gold. It finally dawned on the English government how millions of pounds sterling could be moved around by passing a law making the new smallpox vaccine compulsory. Jenner was promptly awarded the enormous sum of 30,000 by British Parliament and suddenly this uneducated poseur was a revered scientist! (Wallace [6])

TWO DIFFERENT DISEASES

Legitimate scientists of Jenner's day decried the smallpox vaccine from the start. Bechamp, Hadwen, Wallace, and others thought it appalling that the most basic facts concerning the distinction between cowpox and smallpox were simply never discussed. If the original axioms of vaccination were true, how could one disease vector immunize against a completely separate disease? This was the question that was never asked, and is still ignored today.

Watch closely: the two diseases - cowpox and smallpox - are completely distinct conditions. Hadwen explains:

"What is cow-pox? It is a disease which occurs on the teats of cows; it only occurs when they are in milk; only in one part of the body, and naturally only in the female animal; it results in an ugly chancre; and is not infectious.

Small-pox, on the other hand, is not limited to the female sex as is cow-pox, nor to one portion of the body; it presents different physical signs, and, furthermore, is tremendously infectious, and the course and symptoms of the two diseases are totally different. Therefore there is no analogy between the two." [5]

Hadwen wrote this 100 years ago, but his objections are still valid. Doing a taxonomic check today in a standard index of viruses from a National Institutes of Health database [21] readily points out that cowpox is caused by a virus called Orthopox vaccinia and smallpox is caused by a virus called Orthopox variola. These two viruses have different sizes, genetic sequences, and characteristics. To pretend that cows get a version of smallpox called cowpox is bizarre enough - but then to say that people who get the same disease are immune to smallpox is simply fantasy.

This chart may be helpful:

Cowpox ------------------ Smallpox

Only in female cows ----- Only in humans
Not infectious ------------ Infectious
Orthopox vaccinia ------- Orthopox variola

- Microsoft Encarta, 2001 [18]

How scientific was it to transfer diseases back and forth between humans and animals in the preparation and administration of vaccines? Real scientists were shocked at such a practice. But their views were suppressed. We'll see this sloppy science emerge again with polio vaccine and the invention of HIV. (Horowitz)

HOW WAS THE SMALLPOX VACCINE MADE?

From an original monograph by Dr Walter Hadwen, here is an account of how smallpox vaccine was first made:

1. A 3 month old calf was tied down on its side.
2. 30 - 50 one inch incisions were made in its stomach
3. Smallpox pus rubbed into each incision
4. Calf is returned to its pen, restrained so as to be unable to lick the sores
5. Wait one week.
6. Smallpox pustules form
7. Calf strapped down again
8. Encrusted pus is scraped off each sore and the remaining blood, lymph, and pus is then drained out.
9. It is placed in a crucible and heated, adding glycerine as a binder
10. Mixed and strained to remove hair and dead flesh.
11. Poured into tubes as sold as pure calf lymph - or smallpox vaccine.

Very scientific. This formula was used for decades, even up to modern times, continuing with Dryvax in 1944. [34] The new smallpox vaccines are still made from this 'purified calf lymph' but with one modern twist: the post 9/11 vaccine is now cultured on the cells of an aborted human fetus. [35].

The majority of historical references found in mainstream sources have loudly proclaimed the safety and effectiveness of the smallpox vaccine. This erroneous general perception continues today. From a current MSN Encarta document:

"Cowpox, contagious viral disease of cows characterized by pustular eruptions, especially on the udders and teats. Cowpox can be transmitted to humans by direct contact. Persons infected with cowpox become immune to smallpox, a similar but more serious disease. This immunity was discovered by the British physician Edward Jenner, who used cowpox virus to inoculate patients against smallpox."

- "Cowpox" Microsoft Encarta Online Encyclopedia 2001 [18]

Likewise from The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001: [20]

cowpox:
"...infectious disease of cows caused by a virus related to the virus of smallpox. Also called variola, it is characterized by pustular lesions on the teats and udder. Cowpox is transmitted by contact, inducing a mild infection of the hands in persons who milk infected cows. The fact that such persons had immunity to smallpox led Edward Jenner to attempt vaccination with this virus, instead of using the dangerous method of vaccinating with material from the sores of smallpox. Jenner's method was successful and is the basis of the modern vaccination against smallpox."

DID THE ORIGINAL VACCINE WORK?

By 1853, Parliament began passing laws to make the untested vaccine compulsory throughout the British empire. Other countries of Europe followed suit.

Once the economic implications of compulsory vaccinations were realized, few dared to disagree. Then as now, the media were controlled by the vaccine manufacturers and the government, who stood to make huge money from the sale of these spurious vaccines. Hadwen put it like this:

"... so strong is the effect of authority, custom, and endowment, and so prone are people to save themselves the trouble of personal investigation by the simple process of accepting the decisions of "the majority" ... When once an error is accepted by a profession corporately and endowed by Government, to uproot it becomes a herculean task." [14]

And this is how mass immunizations get started. Once the money machine started rolling, doctors who questioned the research were ignored. Despite the lack of scientific validation and hundreds of thousands of documented vaccine deaths, compulsory smallpox vaccination lasted for 120 years! The US was the last holdout, finally giving it up in 1971.

PRUSSIAN ROULETTE

Hadwen provides a rare window into the medical research of a century ago, one that has not received the usual whitewash. He tells the amazing story about Prussia, the most vaccinated country in Europe during the 1800s - also the country which kept the best records. Hadwen had access to these medical records before the media had the sense to suppress them. Here's what they showed:

It happened that Prussia passed a mandatory vaccination law in 1834 for smallpox. The law provided that every infant be vaccinated, and then revaccinated when starting school. After graduation the child had to be vaccinated again, and then once more upon entering the Army! And all healthy males had to go into the Army. Anyone who refused the vaccination was to be "held down and vaccinated by force; and so thoroughly was it done that he was vaccinated in ten places on each arm." [14]

OK, so we get the idea that almost 100% of Prussians got Jenner's smallpox vaccine. So what happened in Prussia 35 years after this vaccination law? A smallpox epidemic which killed "124,978 of her vaccinated and re-vaccinated citizens after thirty-five years of compulsory vaccination!" [14]

LICENCE TO KILL

How about England?

A compulsory "immunization" program was set up in England in 1853 using Jenner's methods. (McBean p.13) [8] Before that time, the highest number of deaths in a 2 year period in England from smallpox was about 2000. Results of this "immunization":

year ------ deaths
1857-9 --- 14,244
1863-5 --- 20,059

In response, in 1867 Parliament enacted a stricter vaccination law, and 97% of the people were inoculated. Result:

year ------- deaths

1868 -------- 44,840

- Null, Part III, p23 [22]

Great vaccine, huh?

Alfred Russell Wallace offers abundant proof how vaccine statistics were manipulated in England during the 1800s - the who and the why of it. After a thorough presentation charting actual deaths throughout the UK and the Continent from smallpox and from the vaccine, Wallace concludes that smallpox vaccine

"...has actually increased susceptibility to the disease. ... the conclusion is in every case the same: that vaccination is a gigantic delusion; that it has never saved a single life; but that it has been the cause of so much disease, so many deaths, such a vast amount of utterly needless and altogether undeserved suffering, that it will be classed by the coming generation among the greatest errors of an ignorant and prejudiced age, and its penal enforcement the foulest blot on the generally beneficent course of legislation during our century."

- Alfred R. Wallace, Chapter VI 1898 [6]

SLOW LEARNERS

What most people don't know is that just after the US began vaccinating for smallpox (1902) England stopped. By 1907 England finally got the message: no more compulsory smallpox vaccination. Holland, same thing in 1928. Australia - 1925 (Anderson, p 10) [7]

How long did it take the US to figure out that the smallpox vaccine not only didn't work, but was dangerous and often fatal as well? We finally stopped vaccinating in 1971, the last holdout in the world.

The low ebb of the infectious diseases arrived in the 1970s. From 1950 to 1970, zero cases of smallpox were reported in the U.S. After several years passed, however, there are now a few cases of smallpox, but they only occur among the ranks of the vaccinated! (Scheibner) [23]

What's important to notice is that smallpox vaccination in the U.S. persisted another 30 years after the disease was at an incidence of practically zero. Again, the only source of death from smallpox in the U.S. for 30 years was from the vaccine itself. (Mendelsohn, p 232, World Book, 1994) [24, 25]

Even though smallpox vaccination became mandatory in the US after 1902, what is less commonly known is that by 1929, all states but nine no longer made it compulsory. Reason: too many deaths and complications. (H.B. Anderson, p 2) [7]

Today smallpox occurs nowhere in nature.

DISSENTING VOICES

Other physicians of the smallpox era were not that impressed with the vaccine. William Howard Hay MD, at an address he gave on 25 June 1937, remarked:

"Of all the insane things we have advocated in medicine - that is one of the most insane, to insist on the vaccination of children or anyone else for the prevention of smallpox, when as a matter of fact, we are not able to prove that vaccination saved one man from smallpox." [26]

PHILIPPINE FIASCO

After WWI, there was a lot of surplus smallpox vaccine that didn't get used. So we looked to another market we could control. When the U.S. mandated a mass smallpox vaccination program in the Philippines in 1917, some 25 million shots were given to those people. 163,000 Filipinos came down with the disease after the vaccination, and 75,339 Filipinos died from it, quadrupling the death rate prior to the inoculation program. That's way more than the total number of Americans who died in the entire Vietnam war! American "immunization" of its Philippine territory caused several horrific epidemics there that didn't quite make the six o'clock news. (Anderson, p 69 W.H.Hay, also James, p 410) [7, 26, 27]

FAIRY TALES CAN COME TRUE

To sum up, what Jenner did was to take an old superstition of Gloucester dairymaids and pander it into a fortune for himself and the English government by the most ridiculous "scientific" posturing.

THE NEW SMALLPOX MARKET

Bringing the discussion into the present, post-9/11 politics has created marketing niches like the world has never seen.

In classic Edward L Bernays style, the illusion of a smallpox threat has been created - an $800 million illusion. [Appleby) [28] With no proof whatsoever, the scripted media daily barrages the unlettered public with likely scenarios of Muslim terrorists unleashing weaponized smallpox into metropolitan areas, supposedly resulting in epidemics of smallpox spreading like wildfire through an unvaccinated population, etc.

In an eerie replay of the social politics of 200 years ago, scientific fact is brushed aside and we are distracted from the lessons of our own history, as though these events never took place:

- smallpox disappeared worldwide in 1977

- the only deaths from smallpox since 1970 have been from the vaccine

- smallpox vaccine killed thousands in England, France, Prussia, and the Philippines

- the sham premise of Jenner is still widely held

- smallpox vaccine historically has killed the most people of any vaccine ever invented

- the vaccine is for a completely different disease - a disease of cows

- the vaccine does not confer immunity to smallpox

- the reason that our country and every other country in the world stopped vaccinating was that the vaccine not only did not work, but was causing the disease and other pathological and fatal side effects

- no biological viral or bacterial agent has ever been deployed as a weapon, either by a country of by an individual.

A few other small details that should not be missed: there is no proof that any 'terrorists' have weaponized smallpox or are preparing to use it anywhere in the world at this time. It's all conjecture.

Despite all this, the FDA, CDC, Office of Home Security, plus many of the brave new 'defensive' offices which have recently emerged at the trough, decided that a few companies should start producing enough vaccine to give all 280 million Americans 'protection.' [29] The companies include: Aventis in France, Acambis in England, and Wyeth in the US. The working sales slogan was that we only had 15 million doses and we need another 255.

So the circus is on. The companies are pretending to be racing against the clock. It makes great press because the story provides both criteria for a successful media issue: fear and uncertainty.

THE NO-SOLUTION SOLUTION

Awash in media overload with respect to the new smallpox vaccine as the solution to the vague, ill-defined, unfounded bioterrorist "threat," we should try to remember a few facts based in physical reality:

- the entire program is predicated upon a premise that is scientifically unproven: namely that one dose of the new vaccine would confer lasting immunity... to anything.

- hundreds would die or suffer permanent injury from this 'protective' measure

- illustrative of the mentality of our decision makers is a comment in a 25 Apr 02 New England Journal of Medicine editorial, [3] whereby the author tries to comfort us by surmising that mass smallpox vaccination today would "only" kill 180 people, which is the same number who die on our highways every day and a half, he trivializes. (Bicknell) Such a ludicrous statement in our best medical journal makes the colossal assumption that those who did not die would be immune by virtue of the vaccination, a fact which cannot be proven. Perhaps this is why even such an irresponsible author as this recommends voluntary smallpox vaccinations to be available to anyone who wants them - a magnanimous offer indeed. This same genius later upped his death estimate when he was quoted in the 23 Sept 02 New York Times, citing 500 deaths which would result from mass smallpox vaccination. [32]

- the original vaccine claimed to confer immunity to the natural disease. Bioterrorist smallpox would be an entirely different strain, being weaponized. So there could be no testing that could prove effectiveness or the wisdom of mass injecting this most dangerous vaccine

- Acambis is in England. Aventis is in France. Yet England and France are not gearing up for mass smallpox vaccination. Why not? Because the only market in the world is here in the US. Because the threat is a perceived threat, created by US media.

- with the ridiculous story on 27 Mar 02 (Washington Post [30]) that suddenly Aventis had "discovered" 70 to 90 million 'forgotten' doses of smallpox vaccine in one of their freezers, a few questions come to mind: Is it 70 or is it 90? 20 million doses is a lot to overlook. And isn't it odd that the company who has been given a $400 million contract that they couldn't possible meet in the one year time frame suddenly discovers these lost doses in one of its own freezers? And with no clinical trials whatsoever glibly postulates that the doses can be 'diluted' down five or ten times, which coincidentally takes the pressure off production deadlines? The mind boggles at this serendipitous synchronicity.

And why doesn't this French company want the valuable vaccine for the French? How altruistic of them to sacrifice their own national safety, and put their old buds the Americans first. This virgin looks somewhat pregnant, n'est-ce pas?

MOST AMERICANS CAN'T RECEIVE SMALLPOX VACCINE

A major blow to the best laid plans of the New Vaccinators came on 10 Sept 02 with the Reuters article [1] about the CDC announcing how the new smallpox vaccine is not to be recommended for:

- HIV people
- anyone on immunosuppressive drugs
- anyone with eczema

The CDC quoted a new study in the Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology, describing reactions that include blindness, scarring, and death. [31] So the vaccine is therefore contraindicated in all these cases, according to the CDC.

Eczema patients alone comprise half the US population. AIDS patients and those on immunosuppressive drugs add another significant proportion to the group of those who shouldn't be vaccinated.

In addition, the omniscient media seem to have forgotten that most Americans over 31 years of age have already been vaccinated for smallpox, since the vaccine was only halted in 1971 in the US. Remember? So if the vaccine is supposed to work, then obviously these people will not need a new shot, right?

Then who does that leave? Ten percent of the population would be a reasonable estimate.

It's not much of a stretch to see how the threat of smallpox is a marketing tool, right out of classic Bernays Public Relations 101, that is being used to justify paying vaccine manufacturers $800 million for a vaccine that is unproven, untested, and contraindicated for 90% of the population.

Why then are our new masters shrieking about the 280 million doses we need to protect the American people from this imminent bioterrorist threat?

Could it just be the money?

New West www.thedoctorwithin.com

REFERENCES

1. Reuters Routine smallpox vaccine risky for eczema patients www.reutershealth.com/en/index.html 10 Sept 2002.

2. Drazen J MD Smallpox and bioterrorism New England Journal of Medicine 346:17 25 Apr 2002.

3. Bicknell, W MD The case for voluntary smallpox vaccination New England Journal of Medicine 346:17 25 Apr 2002.

4. Hadwen, W MD Sanitation Vs. Vaccination: the Origin of Smallpox From "Truth," January 17, 1923

5. Hadwen, W MD The Fraud of Vaccination From "Truth," January 3, 1923.

6. Wallace, AR VACCINATION A DELUSION - Its Penal Enforcement a Crime www.whale.to/vaccine/wallace/book.html

7. Anderson, HB The Facts Against Compulsory Immunization Citizens Medical Reference Bureau New York 1929.

8. McBean, E The Poisoned Needle Health Research, Mokelumne Hill 1993.
9. Miller, Neil - Immunizations: Theory Vs. Reality New Atlantean Press 1995.

10. Null, G - "Vaccines: Are They Really Safe" Part I, II, III, and IV www.garynull.com
11. Horowitz, L Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola Tetrahedron, Inc 1999.

12. Model Emergency Health Powers Act (MEHPA) Turns Governors into Dictators http://www.aapsonline.org/

13. Bernays, E --- Propaganda --- Liveright, New York 1928.

14. Hadwen, W MD Verbatim report of an Address given at Goddard's Assembly Rooms, Gloucester, England Saturday, January 25th, 1896.

15. WHO Weighs Urging of Smallpox Vaccines ABCNEWS.com 21 Oct 2001.

16. Weiss, R Smallpox vaccine turns up Washington Post 27 Mar 2002.

17. Hume, E. Douglas Bechamp or Pasteur? Mokelumne 1923.

18. Microsoft Encarta Online Encyclopedia 2001 (http://encarta.msn.com/ 1997-2001 Microsoft Corporation.)

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20. The Columbia Encyclopedia Sixth Edition. Columbia University Press. Copyright 2001.

21. U.S. National Institutes of Health database on cowpox and smallpox http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ICTVdb/I...enner/poxb.htm http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ICTVdb/Images/em_poxvi.htm

22. Null, G - "Vaccines: Are They Really Safe" Part I, II, III, and IV www.garynull.com

23. Scheibner, V PhD Vaccination: The Medical Assault on the Immune System Australian Print Group 1993.

24. Mendelsohn R MD How To Raise A Healthy Child In Spite of Your Doctor Ballantine New York 1984.

25. World Book, Inc. World Book Encyclopedia p S-513 1994.

26. Hay, W. H. MD - Address to Congress on the Lemky Bill Congressional Record 25 Jun 1937.

27. James, W Immunizations: The Reality Behind the Myth Bergin & Garvey 1995.

28. Appleby, J Lawmakers seek alternative smallpox vaccine USA Today 10 Dec 2001.

29. Lyons & Krieger Smallpox vaccinations considered for US San Jose Mercury News 29 Mar 2002

30. Weiss, R Smallpox vaccine turns up Washington Post 27 Mar 2002.

31. Journal of Allergy and Clinical Immunology vol 110, p 357 2002.

32. New York Times 23 Sept 02

33. Dougherty, J Smallpox uses fetal cell line

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On the off chance that you are, it's good that you're interested in these sorts of things at such a young age but I think you should be reading books and doing other things instead, or find better places for young people on the internet where you're not dealing with adults on your own. You might think you can handle all this stuff on your own but there's a lot of stuff you're not ready for until you get older and this isn't a place that someone as young as you should be hanging out.

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