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Old 08-10-2012, 08:27 PM   #1
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A NEW TAX SYSTEM (GOODS AND SERVICES TAX) ACT 1999 - SECT 165.55
Commissioner may disregard scheme in making declarations

For the purposes of making a declaration under this Subdivision, the Commissioner may:

(a) treat a particular event that actually happened as not having happened; and

(b) treat a particular event that did not actually happen as having happened and, if appropriate, treat the event as:

(i) having happened at a particular time; and

(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity; and

(c) treat a particular event that actually happened as:

(i) having happened at a time different from the time it actually happened; or

(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity (whether or not the event actually involved any action by that entity).

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/c...2/s165.55.html



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Old 08-10-2012, 08:50 PM   #2
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Is it any wonder they want to do away with trial by jury?

A jury answers to the facts; a judge answers to the law.
So remove the common sense of the jury and allow the court to ignore the facts, and all you're left with is the judge whose duty it is to execute the law, which is independent of the facts, regardless of the false presumptions of the law.

The above legislation as a perfect example, where the commissioner can amend time and space, and the judge is required to execute it.
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Old 09-10-2012, 02:13 AM   #3
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:50 AM   #4
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A NEW TAX SYSTEM (GOODS AND SERVICES TAX) ACT 1999 - SECT 165.55
Commissioner may disregard scheme in making declarations

For the purposes of making a declaration under this Subdivision, the Commissioner may:

(a) treat a particular event that actually happened as not having happened; and

(b) treat a particular event that did not actually happen as having happened and, if appropriate, treat the event as:

(i) having happened at a particular time; and

(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity; and

(c) treat a particular event that actually happened as:

(i) having happened at a time different from the time it actually happened; or

(ii) having involved particular action by a particular entity (whether or not the event actually involved any action by that entity).

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/c...2/s165.55.html



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Thank-you. Apart from making me laugh, it's even more reason to do away with all insane, treacherous (to people and to the truth itself), oppressive, man-made legislation.
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Old 09-10-2012, 04:57 AM   #5
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Ok, I'll admit it, that really would legitimately look very scary to a layman seeing this out of context like that, with no explanation whatsoever, no idea what it is actually about or how it has been interpreted in the 13 years it has been in effect.

I don't have the time and patience right now so enjoy keeping on using that to bolster your bogeyman!
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:00 AM   #6
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I have a copy of that on my office fridge. It's real. I downloaded it from the ATO.
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Old 09-10-2012, 05:01 AM   #7
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Is it any wonder they want to do away with trial by jury?

A jury answers to the facts; a judge answers to the law.
So remove the common sense of the jury and allow the court to ignore the facts, and all you're left with is the judge whose duty it is to execute the law, which is independent of the facts, regardless of the false presumptions of the law.

The above legislation as a perfect example, where the commissioner can amend time and space, and the judge is required to execute it.
Yes. Or "fold" it, even. Like the Guild Navigators in Dune would do, very symbolically. In the story it is portrayed as actual space-folding but I've always seen it as meaning the space between one's ears which they are experts in folding ("creating alternate realities/explanations") to make us believe LIES.

They had more clout than even the visible emperor, and foresaw a little problem with Paul Muad'Dib. And there's another Muad'Dib now, in real life, who just happens to have a water-tight argument as to why Regina has no sovereignty or authority, and has called for the real Jubilee to be celebrated on the 5th of November 2012, outside the Houses of Parliament. Bring your friends one and all.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:36 AM   #8
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Ok, I'll admit it, that really would legitimately look very scary to a layman seeing this out of context like that, with no explanation whatsoever, no idea what it is actually about or how it has been interpreted in the 13 years it has been in effect.

I don't have the time and patience right now so enjoy keeping on using that to bolster your bogeyman!
Whoa, whoa, whoa ...

Isn't a law supposed to be universal?
Isn't a law supposed to be self evident?

A man made rule that claims to be a 'law' should be neither "scary to laymen", nor require special learning, context or explanation.

The fact is this 'shapeshifting, fact morphing' legislation was written as is, and currently exists.

Now you can invoke secret knowledge not available to the layman, and give it some elitist type meaning, but all you're doing is reinforcing the "Bogeyman" existence ... the Bogeyman that creates rules and regulations that claim to be law, but which are neither universal nor self evident, and which require ever increasing force to be executed.
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Old 09-10-2012, 09:20 AM   #9
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Hmmm it seems to have be written to stop corporations avoiding tax by moving dates and places when things have been done. Hence the time and place reference.
Nice to see the FOTL are now supporting the aforementioned corporations.
It does however rather put a damper on the idea that the lawmakers are their puppets.
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Isn't a law supposed to be universal?
lol no

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lol no
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So I guess the Law of Gravity really is just a theory then.








[... you gotta love the predictability of some people]
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Tick tock, it is Equivocation o'clock.

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... you gotta love the predictability of some people
Indeed.
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Tick tock, it is Equivocation o'clock.



Indeed.
Yes, yes ... quick ... run away ... dodge the bullet ... just remember to pick your pants up from around your ankles first!!

Keep those arms flailing ..


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Hmmm it seems to have be written to stop corporations avoiding tax by moving dates and places when things have been done. Hence the time and place reference.
Nice to see the FOTL are now supporting the aforementioned corporations.
It does however rather put a damper on the idea that the lawmakers are their puppets.
A legal Tax Invoice in this country would already deal with all that anyway. No, its just an illegal entity flexing its muscles.
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Well I'm not sure what pointing out that a tax act is not a physical law actually accomplishes, but at least you're super proud of yourself for working at least that much out. Good for you, yozhik! Have a gold star.
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Well I'm not sure what pointing out that a tax act is not a physical law actually accomplishes, but at least you're super proud of yourself for working at least that much out. Good for you, yozhik! Have a gold star.
Physical Law?
What's that then?

You state a law isn't universal and it isn't self evident ... so what use is a Physical Law then?

If the Tax Act is atypical, all you need to do is appoint a "Commissioner of Physical Matters" and it can be whatever the said commissioner wants it to be, at any given time!

Seriously - your wisdom is required.
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One day you will figure out what the word "law" means and then we will be able to have an actual conversation about laws.

Oh who am I kidding.
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Enlighten us ... please.
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There might be a valid context to this, but I'll be damned if I can guess what it could be.
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One day you will figure out what the word "law" means and then we will be able to have an actual conversation about laws.
Please let me know. I look forward to being educated.

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