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Old 06-12-2011, 09:27 AM   #121
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As a rule, in every revolution, the lawyers are the first to be lined up and shot.
Who do you think Merkel and Sarkozy are venting their anger and frustration at?
1st tip...it ain't their accountants or economists.
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Old 06-12-2011, 09:37 AM   #122
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As a rule, in every revolution, the lawyers are the first to be lined up and shot.
Come on then jackie, rustle up that Shakespeare.
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Old 06-12-2011, 03:30 PM   #123
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As a rule, in every revolution, the lawyers are the first to be lined up and shot.
Who do you think Merkel and Sarkozy are venting their anger and frustration at?
1st tip...it ain't their accountants or economists.
So... nothing even slightly on topic to say here then? No walls of text to cut and paste? Just "lawyers, grrr"
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Old 16-12-2011, 06:38 AM   #124
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I thought legal counsel were the ones who instructed people on what they can and can not get away with.
Am I wrong on that?
Do lawyers sell contracts or not?

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Old 16-12-2011, 02:34 PM   #125
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I thought legal counsel were the ones who instructed people on what they can and can not get away with.
Am I wrong on that?
Do lawyers sell contracts or not?
Yep, you're wrong. Lawyers may write contracts (on the instructions of their clients) but it is not their role to convince their clients' customers to agree to a particular contract. Lawyers can advise their clients about what a contract means, what the contract requires in a given situation etc, but it is not a lawyer's role to say whether the contract is a good deal or a bad deal, perhaps with the exception of a contractual settlements in litigation, where the lawyer should be a better position to judge the value of the claim to be settled.

And of course, dragging this thread back towards its topic, not all law is contractual and not all lawyers are transactional lawyers. Even Freemen generally have to admit that some additional, non-contractual standard applies to everyone.
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Old 16-12-2011, 04:22 PM   #126
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Its my belief that the law was around long before contracts existed

I believe the contracts Rob speaks are agreements - written or spoken - or tacit perhaps

- and everything we do pretty much revolves around agreements - not just law

Offers - consideration - acceptance etc - makes the world go round (not literally)

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