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Old 12-06-2013, 09:14 AM   #1
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Russia today is voting on a Vladimir Putin supported bill that makes it illegal to tell children gay people exist or that homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality, and provides for fines, jail time, and deportation for those who violate the law.

LOOK: Anti-Gay Violence Breaks Out In Moscow As Russia Criminalizes Telling Kids Gays Exist (Video, Photos)

“The bill provides for Russian citizens engaged in the ‘propaganda of non-traditional sexual orientation’ to be fined, while foreigners could be arrested and immediately deported,” The Independent UK reports:

In recent weeks there have been two killings in which homophobia appears to have played at least a part, and the loose language of the law suggests that even services such as counselling for gay teenagers, or safe-sex advice, could theoretically be deemed illegal.

If the Duma passes the law in its key second reading, it could come into force by the end of the month.

A number of regions have already adopted a similar law, and now MPs from President Vladimir Putin’s United Russia party want to implement a nationwide ban on “gay propaganda”.

The law defines the rather nebulous concept as “spreading information aimed at forming non- traditional sexual behaviour among children, suggesting this behaviour is attractive, and making a false statement about the socially equal nature of traditional and non-traditional relationships”.

“Gay activists gathered outside the parliament ahead of the vote and kissed in public but were outnumbered by several hundred supporters of the bill, some carrying religious icons,” AFP adds:

A police spokesman said around 20 were detained in scuffles.
“Traditional sexual relations are relations between a man and a woman,” one of the bill’s authors, Yelena Mizulina of the left-leaning, Kremlin-friendly A Just Russia party, told lawmakers.

“These relations need special protection from the government.”

UPDATE 10:20 AM EDT: As noted above, the bill passed as this story was published. The AP notes:

The bill still needs to be approved by the appointed upper house and signed into law by President Vladimir Putin, but neither step is in doubt.
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Old 12-06-2013, 09:58 AM   #2
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:00 AM   #3
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I guess it's their country and up to them how it's run.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:01 AM   #4
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Congrats Russia, kids in the age of 5 o6 6 don't need to know about (homo)sexual stuff. They need mom and dad.
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lol wow... i thought this place would be a bit more sympathetic!
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:04 AM   #6
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Congrats Russia, kids in the age of 5 o6 6 don't need to know about (homo)sexual stuff...
Kids of any age do not need to know about it.

Whilst I personally could'nt give a toss whether someone is gay or not, it is fucked up that they teach it in schools in the West.
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lol wow... i thought this place would be a bit more sympathetic!
Many here are tired of the gay lobby and their product placement and lobbying, but only a few speak out.

Couple of weeks ago, an entire nation spoke their mind on the issue, France. Do you hate France now?
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:06 AM   #8
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Kids of any age do not need to know about it.

Whilst I personally could'nt give a toss whether someone is gay or not, it is fucked up that they teach it in schools in the West.
Why do you think it is fucked up? (serious question)
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:22 AM   #9
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lol wow... i thought this place would be a bit more sympathetic!
To the gays or to the Russians?
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:33 AM   #10
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To the gays or to the Russians?


To humanity in general really.
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:40 AM   #11
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Why do you think it is fucked up? (serious question)
Because it is completely unnecessary, gays are such a small part of the population it shouldn't even qualify as a subject.

In the UK we have a large population of Chinese, Italian, polish etc but we don't teach Chinese, Italian or polish history or language at primary level so the need to teach about homosexuality
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:45 AM   #12
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Because it is completely unnecessary, gays are such a small part of the population it shouldn't even qualify as a subject.

In the UK we have a large population of Chinese, Italian, polish etc but we don't teach Chinese, Italian or polish history or language at primary level so the need to teach about homosexuality


Fair enough... upon closer inspection, what this bill does is BAN homosexual propaganda. I guess it stop gay marches and stuff like that....
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Old 12-06-2013, 10:46 AM   #13
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Kids of any age do not need to know about it.

Whilst I personally could'nt give a toss whether someone is gay or not, it is fucked up that they teach it in schools in the West.
I agree with this. Whilst I have a few gay friends and personally
don't have an issue with their sexual orientation choice.

I do find the promotion of homosexuality or the need to raise
such issues within schools wrong. It should be left down to the
parents to raise such issues with their children and when that
parent feels the time is right, as every child has different needs.

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Old 12-06-2013, 11:17 AM   #14
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I don't see this as a bad thing.
You can't denie it is not natural ;p
I don't mind the gays but i feel like it is
getting more popular by the day and it almost seems
like a plague.
You don't see us hetero sexuals making out in front
of others just to show how hetero we are.
That is what gay people do with their gay parades n stuff.
For god sakes keep it to yourselves.
I'm all about the right to expres your freedom but
this is leading towards something very strange.
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Old 12-06-2013, 11:25 AM   #15
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Schools should be teaching academics, knowledge and sports everything else should be learned from family, community and experience.
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Well done Putin (again)

Children that age dont need to know about gays. The eu are following the frankfurt school of cultural genocide and at least russia dont follow that crap.
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People here are funny. You cry "more freedom," but want restrictions heavily imposed? I suppose because it isn't directly imposed on you. Hopefully governments across the world unite to impose more limitations on our speech and basic rights. Every time we mess up we get electrocuted!
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Many here are tired of the gay lobby and their product placement and lobbying, but only a few speak out.

Couple of weeks ago, an entire nation spoke their mind on the issue, France. Do you hate France now?
Tired is an understatement. Sick to the back teeth is more like it.

The last British census showed the LGBT population at 1.5% of the population.

Who the phuck funds such a big mouth to give them such a disproportionate share of air time.

They used get more sympathy from me ... not anymore ... militancy is counter productive.

And on you Vladimir!! No matter how desperately hard the Jewish Marxists tried to destroy the Russian Orthodox Church ... Putins government has brought it back centre stage and in line with the wishes of the Russian people.

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People here are funny. You cry "more freedom," but want restrictions heavily imposed? I suppose because it isn't directly imposed on you.
^ This.

We seem to be a bit quick to approve of banning and censorship. Slippery slope.

Didn't Icke say last weekend.."and then they came for me"?
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Six year olds dont need to be to be taught homosexuality. In fact its a bloody disgrace and if i had any children of my own, I would consider home schooling.

There is personal freedom,which i am fully in favour of and there is education taking the piss. Education is valuable at an early age and doesnt need eu funded material that is harmful imposed to children.

Btw there are many in france who are dead set against gay marriage so it isnt a drawn conclusion.
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