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Old 24-07-2012, 10:19 PM   #1
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War was pushed onto the third Reich and Adolf Hitler.
He tried as much as he could to prevent war.
He was a nationalist and only thought of the best for Germany and had no hegemonic ideologies at all.
Please read his speeches and books to find this out.
War was pushed onto the Germans by talmudic judaic bankers.

Extract from German government memorandum handed to the Polish government on April 28th 1939:

9. The German Government for their part have not given the least cause for such a change in Polish policy. Whenever opportunity offered, they have furnished the Polish Government, both publicly and in confidential conversations, with the most binding assurances that the friendly development of German-Polish relations is a fundamental aim of their foreign policy, and that, in their political decisions, they will always respect Poland's proper interests. Thus the action taken by Germany in March of this year with a view to the pacification of Central Europe did not, in the opinion of the Government of the Reich, disturb Polish interests in any way. This action led to the creation of a common Polish-Hungarian frontier, which had constantly been described on Poland's side as an important political objective. Moreover, the German Government gave unequivocal expression to their readiness to discuss with the Polish Government in a friendly manner all problems which, in the Polish Government's opinion, might arise out of the changed conditions in Central Europe.
10. In an equally friendly spirit the German Government tried to regulate yet another question outstanding between Germany and Poland, namely, that of Danzig. The fact that this question required settlement had long been emphasised on the German side, and was not denied on the Polish side. For a long time past the German Government have endeavoured to convince the Polish Government that a solution was certainly possible which would be equitable to the interests of both parties and that the removal of this last obstacle would open a path for a political collaboration of Germany and Poland with the most favourable prospects. In this connexion the German Government did not confine themselves to allusions of a general nature, but in March of this year proposed to the Polish Government in a friendly form a settlement of this question on the following basis:-
11. The return of Danzig to the Reich. An extra-territorial railway line and autostrada between East Prussia and the Reich. In exchange, the recognition by the Reich of the whole Polish Corridor and the whole of Poland's western frontier; the conclusion of a non-aggression pact for twenty-five years; the maintenance of Poland's economic interests in Danzig and the settlement of the remaining economic and communications problems arising for Poland out of the union of Danzig with the Reich."

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12. Nobody knowing conditions in Danzig and the Corridor and the problems connected therewith can deny, in judging the matter objectively, that this proposal constitutes the very minimum which must be demanded from the point of view of German interests, which cannot be renounced. The Polish Government, however, gave a reply which, although couched in the form of counter-proposals, showed in its essence an entire lack of comprehension for the German point of view and was equivalent merely to a rejection of the German proposals. The Polish Government proved that they did not consider their reply suitable for the initiation of friendly discussions by proceeding at the same time, in a manner as unexpected as it was drastic, to effect a partial mobilisation of the Polish army on a large scale. By these entirely unjustified measures, the Polish Government demonstrated the meaning and object of the negotiations which they immediately afterwards entered upon with the British Government. The German Government do not consider it necessary to reply to the partial Polish mobilisation by counter-measures of a military character. They cannot, however, disregard without a word the decisions recently taken by the Polish Government, and are forced, to their own regret, to declare as follows:-
(1) The Polish Government did not avail themselves of the opportunity offered to them by the German Government for a just settlement of the Danzig question, for the final safeguarding of Poland's frontiers with the Reich, and thereby for a permanent strengthening of the friendly neighbourly relations between the two countries. The Polish Government even rejected German proposals made with this object.
(2) At the same time the Polish Government accepted, with regard to another State, political obligations which are not compatible either with the spirit, the meaning or the text of the German-Polish Declaration of the 26th January, 1934. Thereby the Polish Government arbitrarily and unilaterally rendered this declaration null and void.
13. In spite of this necessary statement of fact, the Government of the Reich do not intend to alter their fundamental attitude towards the question of the future of German-Polish relations. Should the Polish Government attach importance to a new settlement of these relations by means of a treaty, the German Government are ready to do this, but on one condition, namely, that such a settlement would have to consist of a clear obligation binding on both parties.
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Captain B.H. Liddell Hart wrote several books on War.
After WW2 ended he interviewed several of the top German high command officers who were close to Hitler.
They said that Hitler refused to let the tanks finish of the soldiers on the Dunkirk beaches.
They said that Hitler never wanted war with England. That he never had any intention of invading England.
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Gleiwitz incident?
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Gleiwitz incident?
So what?

Bromberg massacre? Concentration camps for the German minority on stolen German territory? Polish warmongering backed by the UK sickos?
The rejected corridor solution, the sabotaged plebiscites in the German areas?

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Gleiwitz incident?
Which version of the Gleiwitz incident are you refering to? There are myriad different versions of the story.

Who were the raiders? Were they SD, SS men according to Alfred Naujocks ,The Daily Telegraph, London Times, Boston Globe, Readers Digest?
Were they German operatives according to wikipedia?
Were they concentration camp inmates according to Canaris/Lahousen, Schellenberg etc?

What were the raiders wearing? Polish uniforms according to Canaris/Lahousen, The encyclopiea of the Third Reich, Readers Digest, Oxford encyclopedia of WWII, wikipedia?
Civilian clothing according to Gliwice museum, Alfred Naujocks, Richard Evans?

What were the number of the raiders?
Two according to the Gliwice museum?
Five or six according to Time Life?
Six or seven according to Alfred Naujocks?
Seven according to The Daily Telegraph, Encyclopedia of the Third Reich?
Nine according to The Oxford Encyclopedia of WWII?
Twelve according to The Boston Globe and Historical encyclopedia of WWII?
Small group according to wikipedia?

Who were the victims?
Concentration camp inmates according to Canaris/Lahousen, Times, Time Life, Oxford encyclopedia of WWII, Readers Digest, Walter Schellenberg Etc?
Condemned criminals according to Alfred Naujocks, Bullock etc?
Common criminal according to Martin Gilbert?
Local convicts according to The Times?
Franciszek Honiok according to The Daily Telegraph, Gliwice museum, wikipedia?
German Policeman according to Penguin Encyclopedia of WWII?

Cause of death?
Lethal injection according to The Boston Globe , Time Life , wikipedia,etc?
Shot according to Daily Telegraph, Martin Gilbert, Readers Digest.etc?
Both according to Richard Evans?

As you can see, the wide discrepencies of reports and so called witness reports puts this incident into the same category as the holohoax fairytales.

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War was pushed onto the third Reich and Adolf Hitler.
He tried as much as he could to prevent war.
He was a nationalist and only thought of the best for Germany and had no hegemonic ideologies at all.
Please read his speeches and books to find this out.
War was pushed onto the Germans by talmudic judaic bankers.

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Official German white book of the foreign office.

I can provide the documents if you are interested.

These documents are not in english public domain and have been suppressed.
They even kill to keep the lid on it.
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Official German white book of the foreign office.

I can provide the documents if you are interested.

These documents are not in english public domain and have been suppressed.
They even kill to keep the lid on it.
Thankyou Tinyint.
My source came from Dr Harrell Rhome.

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Exchange Of Communications Between The President Of The United States And The Chancellor Of The German Reich, April 1939, New York: German Library Of Information, Consulate General, May 1939 (With Roosevelt telegram, map of 1939 Germany, and Wilson’s Fourteen Points).
Most often, the speech (approximately 20,000 words) is omitted from most WWII chronologies compiled by “scholars”. The text of the address was published by a somewhat obscure agency, and the original booklet is rather hard to find, if one can be located at all. Only a small part of the material quoted in my paper appears in the rather brief partial translation from the Yale Law School Avalon Project, which seems to be the only thing available. But significant large sections are omitted. It is my understanding that certain American nationalist groups circulated a copy or partial copy in the mid 20th century, but probably even fewer of those are still around than of the original. Hence, without having the booklet with the entire English translation, this crucial material is virtually unavailable to students and researchers of WWII. In 2008, almost 70 years after the speech, one of the 1939 booklets curiously and unexpectedly came into my hands, so now this has changed.

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Thankyou Tinyint.
My source came from Dr Harrell Rhome whom sourced the documents from the white book.

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Exchange Of Communications Between The President Of The United States And The Chancellor Of The German Reich, April 1939, New York: German Library Of Information, Consulate General, May 1939 (With Roosevelt telegram, map of 1939 Germany, and Wilson’s Fourteen Points).
Most often, the speech (approximately 20,000 words) is omitted from most WWII chronologies compiled by “scholars”. The text of the address was published by a somewhat obscure agency, and the original booklet is rather hard to find, if one can be located at all. Only a small part of the material quoted in my paper appears in the rather brief partial translation from the Yale Law School Avalon Project, which seems to be the only thing available. But significant large sections are omitted. It is my understanding that certain American nationalist groups circulated a copy or partial copy in the mid 20th century, but probably even fewer of those are still around than of the original. Hence, without having the booklet with the entire English translation, this crucial material is virtually unavailable to students and researchers of WWII. In 2008, almost 70 years after the speech, one of the 1939 booklets curiously and unexpectedly came into my hands, so now this has changed.
I will PM you a link to the full suppressed documentation, it is tons of documents.
Much of it is in german and original compilation, plus the officially translated version of 1939.
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I will PM you a link to the full suppressed documentation, it is tons of documents.
Much of it is in german and original compilation, plus the officially translated version of 1939.
Thanks very much that will be excellent.
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Yes, Hitler did not want war. He just wanted to take back the territories which were taken under the Treaty of Versaille. He wanted to make that treaty null and void.
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When it all comes down to it. WW1 and WW2, all those people died (innocent Jews included) so that Israel could be established.

The two best generations my country ever produced. Practically wiped out. Nothing compared to what the near future holds though.
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... They said that Hitler refused to let the tanks finish of the soldiers on the Dunkirk beaches. ...
England was beaten comprehensively by the German military, there is no doubt about that, in the same way that the German military comprehensively overpowered all in their path.

But you have to look at the bigger picture, and the bigger picture is that the outcome of the war was well known to the orchestrators of that war long before even WWI started.

Hitler was a hero to the German people, a 'saviour'. He was 'the right man at the right time'. The German people therefore would, and did, follow him to the very end.

But Hitler was like the Pied Piper of Hamlin. He came along from nowhere at the very time that the people desperately needed him, fixed the problems that no one else could, and then led their youth to destruction. This is obvious from the otherwise exceptionally strange meanderings of the German Army in southern Russia. The army could have taken Moscow easily, just as they could have captured or destroyed the British Army at Dunkirk, but they were ordered into wanderings and stagnation that ultimately led to the deaths of millions of them.

Then, after Hitler does a runner to South America, Eisenhower comes in and murders millions of helpless German men, women and children in real death camps. Not make-believe, fairytale ones, but real ones - just open, muddy fields with no food or shelter. Very effective.

The bigger picture is that Hitler was a 'good guy' for two reasons: he was ordered to be so; the German people craved him to be so. But Hitler was one of them, which became apparent too late, if at all.

Hitler was a Rothschild. He knew what he was doing. And the cream of European youth paid the ultimate price for this deception.

The other objective of the war was to safely ensconce the Jews in Palestine, ready for their destruction in due course (very near now).
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Hitler was a Rothschild. He knew what he was doing. And the cream of European youth paid the ultimate price for this deception.

The other objective of the war was to safely ensconce the Jews in Palestine, ready for their destruction in due course (very near now).
No, he was not a Rothschild.

This is totally stupid and based on a Britsih intel lie.

http://carolynyeager.net/fake-legend...ather%E2%80%9D
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The Fake Legends of Adolf Hitler’s “Jewish Grandfather”

How and why it got started, and why it’s not true

By Carolyn Yeager

March 2011

The rumor that Adolf Hitler was the grandson of a Rothschild seems to have been hatched in the mind of a crypto-Jewish propagandist working in the United States’ first unified intelligence agency, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). Not long after, a former high Nazi official, waiting for his execution, “confessed” to discovering a “Jewish grandfather” in Hitler’s background. These fabrications have been thoroughly debunked, and the true story of Hitler’s family background is told below.

Background information about Walter Langer and the OSS

The OSS was formed at the request of President Franklin D. Roosevelt, from advice given to him by Canadian/British spymaster William Stephenson, aka “Intrepid,” who had been conducting British intelligence in the western hemisphere since 1939. Roosevelt asked William J. Donovan to draft a plan for an intelligence service. Donovan had functioned as an informal emissary to Britain for Roosevelt during 1940-41, assigned to gauge Britain's ability to succeed against Germany. In this role, he met with directors of Britain's intelligence services, and even with Winston Churchill. Donovan was appointed as the "Coordinator of Information" in July 1941. In June 1942, the OSS was established by Presidential military order. Its job was to collect and analyze strategic information required by and useful to the Joint Chiefs, and to conduct special operations not assigned to other agencies.* Since the FBI, the Army and Navy jealously guarded their areas of responsibility, the reach of the OSS was limited to what it could find in the way of new opportunities for espionage that weren’t already being served by the former-named departments. *Italics used throughout are my added emphasis - cy

William L. Langer was recruited during the war to work for the new OSS. Taking leave from his position as head of the History Dept. at Harvard Univ., he became head of the Research and Analysis Section of the OSS. He must have had something to do with bringing his brother Walter into his section, since Walter’s main accomplishment was a psychological analysis of Adolf Hitler.

Walter Langer was a psychoanalyst with a PhD but not an M.D.; he was the first person admitted to the American Psychiatric Association without a medical degree. Imagine that! The brothers were the sons of German immigrants to the U.S. No religion is ever given for either, increasing the likelihood the family was Jewish but did not want to advertise that fact. Langer is a common Ashkanazi Jewish and German name. For instance, there is a Rabbi Samuel Langer, well known on the U.S. east coast who died in 1969, and David Langer, a Jewish soldier in the Polish Army whose picture was taken in 1929.

At the end of the war, William was appointed special assistant for intelligence analysis to the U.S. Secretary of State, James F. Byrnes. In 1950, William Langer organized the office of National Estimates in the newly established Central Intelligence Agency [CIA], the successor of the OSS. He returned to Harvard in the 1950’s, but from 1961 to 1977 he served on the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board [from the Kennedy through Ford administrations]. In his book Diplomacy of Imperialism [1956], he argued against a “genocide” of the Armenians on the grounds their revolutionary leaders provoked the Turks into it.

(...)
Why would some of the Rothschild clan be claimed to be holocausted?

Why would Hitler allow films like these?





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No, he was not a Rothschild.

This is totally stupid and based on a Britsih intel lie.

http://carolynyeager.net/fake-legend...ather%E2%80%9D
The quotation you included does not have much to do with the question.

Austrian research showed that Hitler was the illegitimate son of Baron Rothschild. This is why several people were murdered to keep it quiet and is also why Hitler ordered the German Army to destroy the churchyard of the village that he was born in (together with the birth records).

Hitler was not a Jew, if that is what you think I am claiming. You seem to have fallen for the usual lie that Rothschilds are Jews. They "claim to be Jews, but are not Jews." (Ref: NT.)

The Rothschilds are Bavarian Catholics. Jesuits. As Hitler was.
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The quotation you included does not have much to do with the question.

Austrian research showed that Hitler was the illegitimate son of Baron Rothschild. This is why several people were murdered to keep it quiet and is also why Hitler ordered the German Army to destroy the churchyard of the village that he was born in (together with the birth records).

Hitler was not a Jew, if that is what you think I am claiming. You seem to have fallen for the usual lie that Rothschilds are Jews. They "claim to be Jews, but are not Jews." (Ref: NT.)

The Rothschilds are Bavarian Catholics. Jesuits. As Hitler was.
No, you are now walking the propaganda path.
I don't know if you do it deliberately.

Read the article I posted.

Mr Maser did the most extensive research, just read.

Please provide this Austrian research.

Rothschild are talmudic jews, even wikipedia states it, though not in english.

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His son visited at first a jewish Elementary school in the jewish quarter. Supposedly with the intention to become a rabbi, he visited the Talmud School in Fürth after.
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The Rothschild story appears …

In 1972, Langer published a lengthier, revised version of his profile in book form, titled The Mind of Adolf Hitler: The Secret Wartime Report. It contained a forward by brother William, and an afterword by the “psychoanalytic historian” Robert G.L. Waite. In the book, Langer adds some new allusions to Jewish superiority in speaking of Adolf’s father:

Alois’ intelligence and behavior were beyond what can be expected from an Austrian family of peasants and more suitable to a linage of highly educated Jews.

This is prologue to his theory of a Rothschild paternity, admitting even as he puts it forth that it lacks credibility:

There are some people who seriously doubt that Johann Georg Hiedler was the father of Alois. Thyssen and Koehler, for example, claim that [Austrian] Chancellor Dollfuss had ordered the Austrian police to conduct a thorough investigation into the Hitler family. As a result of this investigation a secret document was prepared that proved that Maria Anna Schicklgruber was living in Vienna at the time she conceived. At that time she was employed as a servant in the home of Baron Rothschild. As soon as the family discovered her pregnancy she was sent back to her home in Spital where Alois was born. If it is true that one of the Rothschilds is the real father of Alois Hitler, it would make Adolf a quarter Jew. According to these sources, Adolf Hitler knew of the existence of this document and the incriminating evidence it contained. In order to obtain it he precipitated events in Austria and initiated the assassination of Dollfuss. According to this story, he failed to obtain the document at that time since Dollfuss had secreted it and had told Schuschnigg of its whereabouts so that in the event of his death the independence of Austria would remain assured. Several stories of this general character are in circulation.4

First, the “secret document” has never been seen, and no doubt never existed. The best one can find on anti-Hitler conspiracy sites is that it is “now in the hands of the British Secret Service.” And, of course, they’re not releasing it. Second, the political putsch attempt by Austrian National Socialists, not under Hitler’s control in any way, that occurred in Vienna in 1934 was not instigated by Hitler; in fact, he was displeased by the attempt and the bad impression it created. Third, Dollfuss may have searched into Hitler’s family line, but the Baron Rothschild part is totally unbelievable. There are no records showing Maria Anna Schickelgruber registered as a domestic servant in Vienna, ever, something that was required at the time. Langer admits this is just one of several “stories,” i.e. rumors, in circulation. He concludesd that “it is sounder not to base our reconstruction on such slim evidence but to seek firmer foundations.” Yet he repeats these baseless rumors for the very purpose of keeping such rumors alive.

Robert G.L. Waite, who wrote the afterword for Langer’s book, was a Canadian self-styled “psychohistorian,” with a specialty in Adolf Hitler, who authored his own psycho-bio, Adolf Hitler: The Psychopathic God, published in 1977. Waite, who gained his psychiatric ‘insight’ from the extended treatment he received for depression he suffered since his university days, and was known for stubbornness and acting out emotionally in public, found Langer’s theories provocative, even if wrong. He wrote: "But even when Langer is mistaken and his guesses prove incorrect, he is often on the right track."

Consider his hint that Hitler's grandfather might have been a Jew. There is no reason to believe the unlikely story told by Langer's informant that Hitler's grandmother Maria Anna Schicklgruber, a peasant woman in her forties from the Waldvietral of rural Austria, had had an intimate liason with a Baron Rothschild in Vienna.

…and the Frankenberger story

In place of Langer’s failed rumors, Waite posits another false story of a different “Jewish grandfather” that had also been “circulating” for years, to wit that Hitler's paternal grandmother had been working as a cook in the household of a Jewish man named Leopold Frankenberger before she gave birth to Hitler's father out of wedlock.

But Hitler had worried that he might be blackmailed over a Jewish grandfather and ordered his private lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate his paternal lineage. Frank told the Fuehrer that his grandmother had become pregnant while working as a domestic servant in a Jewish household in Graz.

The facts of this matter are in dispute—and a very lengthy dispute it has been. The point of overriding psychological and historical importance is not whether it is true that Hitler had a Jewish grandfather, but whether he believed that it might be true.

Waite then lies when he writes: "He did so believe and the fact shaped both his personality and his public policy."

No, Hitler did not believe it, and in fact Hans Frank’s entire story is false, an invention made up in the mind of a condemned man under pressure to “clear his conscience.” There was no blackmail letter from Hitler’s nephew Patrick and there was no Frankenberger family living in Graz.

The American Jewish psychologist G. M. Gilbert was sent to Europe as a military intelligence officer and was appointed prison psychologist for the German prisoners. He later wrote in his book Nuremberg Diary on p.19: “He [Hans Frank] and Albert Speer were the only defendants to show any true remorse for their war crimes …” He should also have said they were the only two who spoke ill of Adolf Hitler in retrospect, the former in hopes to clear himself before God, the latter in hopes to clear his reputation before his new earthly rulers.

(...)

Werner Maser, a German historian and author of several serious books on Hitler, was described in his obituary in the London Times as “one of the first German historians to treat the Nazi period as a field of academic research.”5

This is borne out in his exceedingly thorough job of tracing Adolf Hitler’s family background and lineage in his book, Hitler: Legend, Myth and Reality, published in German in 1971, in English in 1973. He concludes that Hitler’s paternal grandfather was Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, a German farmer living in Spital, in the Waldviertel region in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

This book and the information it contains has been available for 40 years, yet conspiracy theorists who want to believe Hitler was a Rothschild or simply a part-Jew ignore it. Maser’s investigation included personal trips to look through church and baptismal records, interviewing relatives, heirs, school-fellows and childhood friends. In the attic of one of Hitler’s cousins, he discovered material which biographers had been seeking for half a century, including large numbers of letter and notes in Hitler’s own hand.

FINDINGS OF WERNER MASER

1. It is undisputed that Adolf Hitler was born to Alois Hitler and Klara Pölzl. Alois, however, was born Schicklgruber because his mother, Maria Anna Schicklgruber was unmarried. [Not an unusual occurrence in Austrian villages at that time.]

2. Maria Anna Schicklgruber was not a poor housemaid who worked for wealthy Jewish families. The daughter of Johann Schicklgruber, a prosperous farmer in possession of a well-appointed farm in the village of Strones, and Theresia Pfseisinger, she was born in 1795 and is described by Maser as a thrifty, reserved and exceptionally shrewd peasant woman. She gives every appearance of having been strong-minded, a trait that was passed down to her son Alois and her grandson, Adolf.

3. Maria Anna Schicklgruber’s brother, Jakob, purchased the family farm from his father for 3000 gulden when the father was only 53 years old. Maria’s mother, Theresia, had just inherited 210 gulden from her father’s total estate of 1054 gulden, so the parents felt prosperous enough to retire. To put the value of 3000 gulden in perspective: a cow at that time could be purchased for 10 to 12 gulden; a brood sow cost 4 gulden; a bed w/bedding was 2 gulden; an inn with stabling could be had for 450 to 500 gulden. As you can see, 3000 gulden was a substantial amount.

4. Maria Anna, at the age of 26, inherited 74.25 gulden at the death of her mother in 1821. She kept this sum in the Orphans’ Fund until 1838, earning 5% interest. By then, it had increased to 165 gulden, over double the original amount. Her son was not born until June 1837 when she was 42 yrs. old.

5. She refused to reveal the name of her child’s father, even though the priest wanted her to do so. Thus, the child could only be given her name. This strong-willed woman did marry, in 1842—five years after the birth of her son—a man named Johann Georg Hiedler of the village of Spital. If he were the father of Alois, Maria Anna would certainly have named him such when they married and legitimized her son, but she did not. That entry was made in the baptismal register at Döllersheim where they married, but not until ten years after her death! The one responsible for it was Hiedler’s younger brother, Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, in whose household young Alois went to live at the age of 5 years, after his mother’s marriage to Hiedler.6

6. So … we have Maria Anna Schicklgruber Heidler’s illegitimate son Alois going to live in the household of his new stepfather’s brother—his ‘uncle.’ Maser explains it this way: Hiedler, at this time 50 years old and never before married, may have resented and/or been irritated by the presence of a young child who was not his. But more likely, Johann Nepomuk, a much younger 35 years old, who was married at the time Alois was conceived, could now welcome his son, as ‘nephew,’ into his family without his wife becoming suspicious.

7. All reports are, according to Maser, that Alois was happy in his ‘uncle’s’ home where he had ‘cousins’ and a more lively family life than he experienced living with his 47-year-old mother and her new husband.

8. Maria Anna Hiedler died in 1847 at the age of only 52. Alois did not, on his own initiative, seek legal legitimacy. His birth status did not hamper his career, in which he rose to what was considered the very respectable position of a Customs official; nor did it appear to trouble him personally. He was known as a tolerant, modern thinker, not particularly religious. His second wife Franziska Matzelsberger had a son born out of wedlock when he married her and he accepted this son in his household. It wasn’t until sometime between 1874 and 1876 that he changed his name to Hitler. Hitler is almost identical in sound to Hüttler.

9. It was in 1876 that Franz Schicklgruber, administrator of his sister Maria Anna’s estate, made over to his nephew Alois 230 gulden. It was now that Alois signed his name “Hitler,” spelling it just slightly differently than Hüttler. Maser comments that the Schicklgruber family was no doubt proud of how well Alois had done for himself and saw to it that he got the bulk of the inheritance of his mother.

10. Rothschild and Frankenberger Jew paternity is ruled out on the grounds of there being no evidence Maria Anna Schicklgruber ever worked for a Jewish family in Graz or Vienna.

11. The Jew Frankenberger story: Hans Frank, who became Govenor General of Poland from 1939 to 1945, is responsible for the false story, with the help of an American army chaplain Sixtus O’Conner, written before Frank was put to death by the Nuremberg IMT [International Military Tribunal]. He concocted a story that Maria Anna Schicklgruber worked as a cook in the household of a Jewish family in Graz, Austria at the time she gave birth to her son. In his ‘report,’ this family had a 19 yr-old son. [Remember, MAS was 42 years old, a fact of which Hans Frank was probably ignorant.] Further, he said the family, named Frankenberger, paid a maintenance allowance to Maria Anna for 14 years [which makes Jews look responsible and honorable]. But the story is false from start to finish. Some of the main reasons are:

A) From the end of the 15th Century until a decade after Maria Anna died, no Jews lived in Graz. They had been expelled by Emperor Maximilian I in 1496 from the province of Styria, which included Graz. In 1781, under Joseph II, they were allowed to re-enter, but only for a few weeks at a time, during Lent and at the Feast of St. Giles to the annual Fairs, after paying a fixed sum. Two years later, these rights were again curtailed, and it remained enforced until 1860 that no Jews whatsoever could even enter the province.

B) No resident by the name of Frankenberger is listed as having lived in Graz at that time.

C) Records from 1821 to 1838 pertaining to Maria Anna’s money in the Orphans’ Fund showed no change of address in 1836 or ’37. Moreover, as a subject of the “Lordship of Ottenstein” she could not have absented herself for any length of time without it being noted.

D) Frank wrote in his report that Adolf Hitler told him in a conversation that he knew there were no Jews in his family because he had talked with his father and grandmother about it. But Hitler could not have said that—his grandmother had been dead since before he was born! This shows that Hans Frank’s story is made up out of whole cloth—including the part about “investigating the matter for Hitler.”

12. The Rothschild in Vienna story: This is debunked for the same reasons. Maria Anna Schicklgruber did not visit or live in Vienna, and there is no record of who these Rothschilds were, their address or other necessary information.

13, Patrick Hitler: Another rumor of an alleged newspaper article in the Paris-Soir in which Hitler’s nephew [by his half-brother Alois, Jr.], Patrick, described his uncle Adolf as the grandson of a Graz Jew called Frankenreither. Maser dug up this issue of that defunct newspaper while on a trip to Paris and found it carried two pages and six illustrations of Patrick Hitler’s story, but no allusion whatsoever to any Jewish antecedents.

COMMENTS AND OTHER FINDINGS BY WERNER MASER

1. Maser feels that Johann Nepomuk Hüttler and Alois decided on the change of name in compliance with the wishes of Maria Anna. The inheritance was given in the same year that Alois wrote his name as Hitler. The baptismal record continues to name Johann Georg Hiedler as Alois’ father, but Alois chose to spell the name as Hitler.

2. Klara Pölzl, Alois 3rd wife, mother of Adolf, was a granddaughter of Johann Nepomuk Hüttler and his wife Eva Maria [Decker], making her the niece of her husband Alois. She was considered his niece because Alois was a Schicklgruber and Klara was a Decker on the maternal side. Hüttler died in 1888, Adolf was born in 1889.

3. Adolf Hitler’s maternal grandfather was Johann Baptist Põlzl, a farmer living in Spital. His paternal grandfather was Johann Nepomuk Hüttler, also a Spital farmer. Maser says that there is a distinct family resemblance between all the relations in Spital who are descended from Hüttler, and some of them bear a strong resemblance to Adolf Hitler. Hitler visited Spital in 1905, 1906 and 1908, and several times when on leave during the First World War. He knew his relatives and a great deal about his family history.

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Yes, Hitler did not want war. He just wanted to take back the territories which were taken under the Treaty of Versaille. He wanted to make that treaty null and void.
I've understood it was not a treaty, but a dictate.
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No, you are now walking the propaganda path.
I don't know if you do it deliberately.

Read the article I posted.

Mr Maser did the most extensive research, just read.

Please provide this Austrian research.

Rothschild are talmudic jews, even wikipedia states it, though not in english.

Wikipedia is a heavily controlled propaganda tool, used by the enemy for deception. I try never to reference it or use it.

For example, I have updated wikipedia many times on its false and twisted claims about Ernst Zundel. Each and every time, my alterations are changed back again very quickly.

I did read the quote that you presented and I did not find it convincing in the least. If I can dig out the Austrian research (but you must know about it, the author was murdered and the report hidden), I will submit it.

I went through a phase of thinking that Adolph Hitler was a 'good guy'. I was taken in by it for a while, because it was cleverly designed that way. The German people would never have been led by him at that time otherwise. But it does not fit the bigger picture. The way that millions of German youth were led to their deaths in Russia confirms that Hitler was following the plan that had been laid before him.

Deceit. It's all deception by those who claim to be Jews, but are not.
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