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Old 07-12-2010, 10:53 AM   #4321
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We'll get to my comments.

Can we establish what we are looking for first.

Logically it's the first thing we need to do.

So is this what we are looking for?



Yes or no.

(Yes sorry I know how difficult that is but please find time in your busy schedule).
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Old 07-12-2010, 07:11 PM   #4322
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We'll get to my comments.

Can we establish what we are looking for first.

Logically it's the first thing we need to do.

So is this what we are looking for?



Yes or no.

(Yes sorry I know how difficult that is but please find time in your busy schedule).
a/I'm not "looking for" anything.

b/What you are attempting to do is play on finding a diagram that has a disparity in measurement. The first thing a sane, rational person would ask themselves is how authoritative is the diagram, specifically that measurement? With what degree of accuracy are we dealing?
Secondly, if there is a disparity, what are the possible explanations for this?

However, you obsessively believe that any disparity is 'proof' of no gas chambers. Because you operate from a dogmatic determination to find anything to support your dogma, you will ignore the rational approach and attempt to apply terrific weighting. Whereas the holes/columns rests on the entire range of evidence. And gas chambers beyond that on all evidence for gas chambers. Your entire approach is so illogical it beggars belief. And the way you apply this very odd 'method' is one of the reasons I genuinely, 100% non insultingly, wonder if you have Asperger's.

Thing is, you're eternally doomed from the outset because your 'methodology' is bullshit.

Sorry Bub, had a longer post in my head, but I'm too tired to write it out now. I did promise to reply though, so that's the basic answer.

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Old 07-12-2010, 10:27 PM   #4323
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For reference.

This is a hole in the roof of the Krema III furnace room.



You know... straight edges, no rebar bend backwards.
Oh Bub - where is your explanation as to why we should view that hole as an appropriate comparison to the roof? It looks, y'know, fairly intact and stuff. So on what basis are you not trying to compare apples to oranges here? And how do you know what they did with the rebar when you can't actually see it.
Do you have x-ray vision?
Beyond that are you arguing if rebar wasn't bent in one place but was in another, then where it was bent must be a fraud cunningly constructed within old, partially destroyed concrete? Wouldn't that be astoundingly moronic?
I mean, just what is your point here? I can't see what you think you're saying.

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Old 08-12-2010, 06:06 AM   #4324
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a/I'm not "looking for" anything.

b/What you are attempting to do is play on finding a diagram that has a disparity in measurement. The first thing a sane, rational person would ask themselves is how authoritative is the diagram, specifically that measurement? With what degree of accuracy are we dealing?
Secondly, if there is a disparity, what are the possible explanations for this?

However, you obsessively believe that any disparity is 'proof' of no gas chambers. Because you operate from a dogmatic determination to find anything to support your dogma, you will ignore the rational approach and attempt to apply terrific weighting. Whereas the holes/columns rests on the entire range of evidence. And gas chambers beyond that on all evidence for gas chambers. Your entire approach is so illogical it beggars belief. And the way you apply this very odd 'method' is one of the reasons I genuinely, 100% non insultingly, wonder if you have Asperger's.

Thing is, you're eternally doomed from the outset because your 'methodology' is bullshit.

Sorry Bub, had a longer post in my head, but I'm too tired to write it out now. I did promise to reply though, so that's the basic answer.
What are we looking for then?

You do realise what that diagram is don't you?

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Old 08-12-2010, 06:08 AM   #4325
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Oh Bub - where is your explanation as to why we should view that hole as an appropriate comparison to the roof? It looks, y'know, fairly intact and stuff. So on what basis are you not trying to compare apples to oranges here? And how do you know what they did with the rebar when you can't actually see it.
Do you have x-ray vision?
Beyond that are you arguing if rebar wasn't bent in one place but was in another, then where it was bent must be a fraud cunningly constructed within old, partially destroyed concrete? Wouldn't that be astoundingly moronic?
I mean, just what is your point here? I can't see what you think you're saying.
That roof was blown up as well.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:09 AM   #4326
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What is this diagram?



Is dogsmilk going to argue it's not relevant?

We wait and see.
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Old 08-12-2010, 06:27 AM   #4327
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Joooooos!!!!!!!!!

The-they're everywhere! 4 million at Auschwitz canard! Lampshades! 911! M-must post jooo spam! Jooos under the bed! Jooos watching me! Jooos in my head telling me what to do!
Joooooos!
Still as unhinged as ever i see
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:29 AM   #4328
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Perhaps this picture is better.



is this what we are looking for?

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Old 08-12-2010, 03:30 PM   #4329
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Still nothing from Bub worth responding to then. Ho Hum.
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:36 PM   #4330
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Still nothing from Bub worth responding to then. Ho Hum.
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Can you confirm that this is what we are looking for?



If not, what are we looking for in the roof of Krema II?
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Old 10-12-2010, 06:41 AM   #4331
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From the Irving libel case

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Under cross-examination by David Irving on January 28, 2000, van Pelt admitted that he had "frequently visited the roof of the alleged factory of death," but had not seen the requisite holes there:

Irving: You have not seen any holes in the roof, have you, in the -- when you went there? You have not found any holes?

Van Pelt: I have not seen the holes for the columns, no.

Irving: Not for the introduction of the cyanide?

Van Pelt: No
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n5p33_Renk.html
(A good article by the way).

Now we are led to believe that the holes are there?

It would be nice to know what it is we are looking for.

Perhaps the testimony of Michal Kula (the person who is said to have made the columns) would help?

I really wish we could nail this one.

Why is this important?

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"Crematorium II is the most lethal building of Auschwitz. In the 2,500 square feet of this one room, more people lost their lives than any other place on this planet. 500,000 people were killed. If you would draw a map of human suffering, if you created a geography of atrocity, this would be the absolute center."

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Old 10-12-2010, 02:25 PM   #4332
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Strangely no one wants to get down to the nitty gritty about the holes in the roof of Krema II.

What a surprise.

Who they going to go with... Provan or Van Pelt?

It's a tricky one.

Both contradict each other and both are flawed.

Why should I believe the official Holocaust story when it can't be demonstrated how it worked and the Holocaust experts disagree with each other anyway?
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Old 20-12-2010, 08:54 AM   #4333
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No holes no holocaust.
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:13 AM   #4334
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No holes no holocaust.
is that the o0ne that was obliterated?
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:22 AM   #4335
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is that the o0ne that was obliterated?
Krema II?

It was blown up, but it's roof went up and fell straight down and everything is pretty much where it was.

Some things "disappeared" though... insertion holes for instance.

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Old 20-12-2010, 09:30 AM   #4336
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Votes with no names to them are easily duplicated. That is why we have been forced to adopt 'secret' ballots in our 'democracies'

Its not the votes that count its who counts the votes

Step up to the plate....

PUBLIC vote

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146992
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:31 AM   #4337
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Strangely no one wants to get down to the nitty gritty about the holes in the roof of Krema II.

What a surprise.

Who they going to go with... Provan or Van Pelt?

It's a tricky one.

Both contradict each other and both are flawed.

Why should I believe the official Holocaust story when it can't be demonstrated how it worked and the Holocaust experts disagree with each other anyway?
I admire yr doggedness.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:49 PM   #4338
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Votes with no names to them are easily duplicated. That is why we have been forced to adopt 'secret' ballots in our 'democracies'

Its not the votes that count its who counts the votes

Step up to the plate....

PUBLIC vote

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146992
Interesting to compare polls
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