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Old 12-03-2010, 07:31 PM   #1
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Author David Weber says the genesis for this book began with a question: "Assume that Earth doesn't actually have a Moon, but rather a giant starship disguised as our Moon which has been there for at least 50 or 60,000 years. Where did it come from, why did it come here, and why hasn't it left?" Weber says the answer to those questions built the foundation for this book and its sequels.


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His most staggering revelation is that the Earth and the collective human mind is manipulated from the Moon, which, he says, is not a ‘heavenly body’, but an artificial construct – a gigantic ‘spacecraft’ (probably a hollowed-out 'planetoid') – which is home to the extraterrestrial group that has been manipulating humanity for aeons.

He describes what he calls the ‘Moon Matrix’, a fake reality broadcast from the Moon which is decoded by the human body/mind in much the same way as portrayed in the Matrix movie trilogy. The Moon Matrix has ‘hacked’ into the human ‘body-computer’ system, he says, and it is feeding us a manipulated sense of self and the world 24/7.

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Default Wiki.lies 'Spaceship Moon Theory' (March 2010)

The Spaceship Moon Theory, also known as the Vasin-Shcherbakov Theory, is a pseudoscientific theory that claims the Earth's moon may actually be an alien spacecraft. The theory was put forth by two members of the then Soviet Academy of Sciences, Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov, in a July 1970 article entitled "Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?".[citation needed]

Vasin and Shcherbakov's thesis was that the Moon is a hollowed-out planetoid created by unknown beings with technology far superior to any on Earth. Huge machines would have been used to melt rock and form large cavities within the Moon, with the resulting molten lava spewing out onto the Moon's surface. The Moon would therefore consist of a hull-like inner shell and an outer shell made from metallic rocky slag. For reasons unknown, the "Spaceship Moon" was then placed into orbit around the Earth.[citation needed]

In 1975, Don Wilson published "Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon" in which he compiled what he considered supporting facts for this theory."

Criticisms

Suniti Karunatillake and Dr. Karen Masters have both researched and based on continuing analyses of its size, mass, geology and gravitational field, both believe that the scientific evidence indicates that the Moon cannot be hollow.

Spaceship Moons in literature

In the series by Science fiction author David Weber, Heirs of Empire, the moon is in fact a giant space ship arriving 50,000 years ago. The population of Earth are the descendants of the crew of the ship, who abandoned it after it was damaged in a mutiny. In these books the moons are artificial constructs which are given a rocky outer coating as a form of camouflage. The three books in the series are Mutineers Moon, The Armageddon Inheritance and Heirs of Empire.

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1. Suniti Karunatillake. "Can we prove that the Moon isn't hollow?". Cornell University "Ask an Astronomer". http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=738. Retrieved 2008-02-05.
2. Dr. Karen Masters. "Is the Moon hollow?". Cornell University "Ask an Astronomer". http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/que...php?number=102. Retrieved 2008-02-05.

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Old 12-03-2010, 07:49 PM   #4
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Does the Moon's mass and related gravitational field prove that it is not hollow? If not, are there any observations that indicate whether or not the Moon is hollow?

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I once heard that the moon was hollow, I would like to know if this is true and why?

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"And you have not covered a great deal of the outstanding evidence, Jim. It
would take 20 pages just to LIST the anomalous features of the Moon! One I
don't believe you mentioned: the Moon is placed in orbit at exactly the
distance from the Earth so that it covers the Sun during a solar eclipse.

Isaac Asimov in one of his books commented on the improbability of this
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"7. The Puzzle of the Moon's High Radioactivity: Apparently, the upper 8 miles of the moon's crust are surprisingly radioactive. When Apollo 15 astronauts used thermal equipment, they got unusually high readings, which indicated that the heat flow near the Apennine Mountains was rather hot. In fact, one lunar expert confessed: "When we saw that we said, 'My God, this place is about to melt! The core must be very hot.' " But that is the puzzle. The core is not hot at all, but cold (in fact, as was assumed, it is a hollow sphere). The amount of radioactive materials on the surface is not only "embarrassingly high" but, difficult to account for. Where did all this hot radioactive material (uranium, thorium, and potassium) come from? And if it came from the interior of the moon (unlikely), how did it get to the moon's surface?"


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"Rocketing humans back to the moon by 2020, a goal announced by former President Bush more than five years ago... President Barack Obama plans to junk the moon project"

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"The gravity field of the moon has been investigated since 1966...

"Their argument stems from the strong shoulders seen in the line-of-sight Doppler data. Likewise, the gravity model presented here does show a plateau for the principal mascons...

"These basins do not have mascons, and the thickness anomalies may be related to Pratt isostasy (lateral variations in crustal density)."

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Have you ever seen a spaceship when you were out for an evening stroll? You may think not, but you may be wrong. It's just possible that the moon is a spaceship. Don Wilson, author of the best-selling book, Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon, thinks so, and so do some scientists in the Soviet Union.

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"...I read a book called 'Worldbridger', which talked about how the moon, or something coming from it, was holding us in a frequency pattern, or 'mutant paradigm'. here's a youtube clip which talks about it:"

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"high definition videos...Deduction of dirt/artifact on the camera lens, laser pointer? (for satellite camera), dust, astronaut pee etc... makes me conclude (if this footage is real) that there IS life on the Moon today, now!"

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"A craft named Aurora exists at Area 51 which makes regular trips into space. ...Our pilots have made interplanetary voyages in these craft and have been to the Moon, Mars, and other planets aboard these craft. We have been lied to about the true nature of the Moon...

There are areas on the Moon where plant life grows and even changes color with the seasons. This seasonal effect is because the Moon does not, as claimed, always present the exact same side to the earth or the sun. There is an area that wobbles in and out of darkness on a seasonal basis and it is near this area that the plant life grows. The Moon does have a few man-made lakes and ponds upon its surface and clouds have been observed and filmed in its atmosphere. It possesses a gravitational field and man can walk upon its surface without a space suit breathing from an oxygen bottle after undergoing decompression the same as any deep sea diver. I have seen the photographs and some of them were actually published in the book "We Discovered Alien Bases on the Moon" by Fred Steckling.

In 1969 a confrontation broke out between the human scientists and the aliens at the Dulce underground lab. The aliens took many of our scientists hostage. Delta forces were sent to free them but were no match against the alien weapons. 66 of our people were killed during this action. As a result we withdrew from all joint projects for at least 2 years. A reconciliation eventually took place and once again we began to interact. Today the alliance continues.
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"The implication is that alternative means of neutralizing deeply buried facilities must be vigorously pursued so that the United States and its allies will have the widest range of capabilities and options for destroying these facilities... The ability to locate, characterize, and neutralize deeply buried facilities is critical to the successful conduct of future military operations."

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"unexplainable Mascons (1) [See Glossary]
"spacecrafts crashed on the moon, NASA noted that the moon "rang like a gong or bell " for up to four hours
"NASA scientist said the acoustic characteristics were that of a hollow
Titanium sphere 60 miles below the surface
"It would take 20 pages just to LIST the anomalous features of the Moon! (2)
"military had a parallel space program in existence, the "blue" program (3)
"glass domes" (4)
"Moon must have an artificial origin (5)
"Moon is also suspected to have multiple magnetic fields (6)
"wobble in the Earth's rotation has abruptly ceased with no explanation from the science community (6)
"Northern Illinois University... Studies regarding Moonquakes and magnetic 'anomalies' (7) ...a paper was presented ..."Deep Moonquakes: Remaining Problems."...state[s] the center of the Moon may be hollow ...deep interior of the Moon severely attenuates
"[magnetized areas] are located antipodal [opposite sides of the Moon] to four large, similarly aged impact basins (8)
"in the absence of an overall planetary magnetic field (magnetosphere) no one can determine... no magnetosphere encompassing the entire Moonhas been detected as of this writing.
"the form of distortion [of the magnetic field] seems to be changed when the solar wind conditions (dynamic pressure, the angle of incidence, and so on) are different (9)
"images of the south polar... just an illusion? ...difficulty when drilling for samples ... How did these elements get there? (10)
"unexplainably rich in zinc. The orange soil is probably of volcanic origin and not the product of meteorite impact. (NASA)" (11)
"only Moon in the solar system with a stationary, circular orbit
"Tiahuanaco, Bolivia record the Moon entering into orbit about 11,500 to 13,000 years ago... Ancient authors such as Aristotle and Plutarch wrote about a group called the Proselenes of Greece. This group claims to have existed before the Moon was in orbit.
"Aristarchus, Plato, Eratosthenes, Biela, Rabbi Levi, and Posidonius all reported anomalous lights on the Moon. One year before the first Apollo landing, NASA reported that more than 570 flashes were observed on the Moon over more than 400 years, from 1540 to 1967.
"July 29, 1953, John J. O,Neill observed a 12-mile-long bridge straddling the crater Mare Crisium. In August, British astronomer Dr. H.P. Wilkens verified its presence
"obelisk-shaped object that towers 1 miles from the Ukert area... Orbiter 3 in 1968. Dr. Bruce Cornet...
"an amazing spire that rises more than 5 miles from the Sinus Medii

Further Reading
(1) Moon's Gravity Model Discussed (QSO) [Title found in this thread]
(2) Artificial Moon, Ostrowski & Monteverde (emails) [Title found in this thread]
(3) Brian O'Leary
(4) Richard Hoagland's theories
(5) to (11) source Ted Twietmeyer cites rense.com book link
(5) Our Solar System Is No Accident" - rense link
(6) Moon statistics - link
(7) Moon conference details - link
(8) "Correlations Between Magnetic Anomalies and Surface Geology Antipodal to Lunar Impact Basins" was also presented by Richmond, N C, Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California and Hood, L L, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, University of Arizona, Tucson.
(9) "Lunar magnetic anomalies in the solar wind: Possible existence of mini-magnetosphere" written by Kurata, M of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, Tsunakawa, H also of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, and Saito, Y of the The Institute of Space and Astronautical Science.
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(11) Scientist-Astronaut Harrison J. Schmitt

Comments
"Richard Hoagland's theories are numerological and cannot be taken seriously, he has uncovered some evidence that it solid and conclusive"

Glossary
"Moon Mascons: Mascons, which are large, dense, circular masses lying twenty to forty miles beneath the centers of the moon’s maria, "are broad, disk-shaped objects that could be possibly some kind of artificial construction. For huge circular disks are not likely to be beneath each huge maria, centered like bull’s-eyes in the middle of each, by coincidence or accident." (Emphasis added)."
"Mystifying Maria of the Moon: The dark areas of the moon are known as maria (seas, as this is what they looked like to early astronomers- dried-up seas). Some of these maria form the familiar "man-in-the-moon" and are strangely, located almost entirely on one side of the moon.

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"Our Solar System Is No Accident" - rense link
"Moon statistics - link
"Moon conference details - link
"Strange Moon Facts - link & link

Reference List
"books by Don Wilson called "Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon", and "Secret Of Our Spaceship Moon"
"Unlike many speculative theories, like Hoagland's
"NASA scientists themselves have said that the hollow moon model fits the facts
"Brian O'Leary in his first book
"planetary sciences meeting was chaired by P R Stoddard, Department of Geology and Environmental Geosciences, Northern Illinois University; R C Elphic, Los Alamos National Laboratory in August of 1985... Paper presented, "Deep Moonquakes: Remaining Problems."
"Correlations Between Magnetic Anomalies and Surface Geology Antipodal to Lunar Impact Basins" was also presented by Richmond, N C, Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California and Hood, L L, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, University of Arizona, Tucson.
"Lunar magnetic anomalies in the solar wind: Possible existence of mini-magnetosphere" written by Kurata, M of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, Tsunakawa, H also of the Tokyo Institute of Technology, and Saito, Y of the The Institute of Space and Astronautical Science.
"Scientist-Astronaut Harrison J. Schmitt
"John J. O,Neill
"Dr. H.P. Wilkens
"Dr. Bruce Cornet

Thanks, Lordzuma & Tweedy Emitter (anagram of Ted Twietmeyer).

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"The Cambridge Atlas of Astronomy. In the chapter on the moon, three possible origins for the moon are given. 1)It formed with the Earth; ie from the same material that formed the Earth. 2) It was created during a collision with a large comet or planetoid with the Earth. 3) It was a rogue satellite captured by the Earth. I am happy to say that according to The Atlas, all three theories have been completely debunked. (Happy because I love a good mystery)"

"Uranium 236 and neptunium 237 (elements not found in nature on Earth) were discovered in lunar rocks, as were rustproof iron particles.

", stated, "It’s too big to have been captured by the Earth. The chances of such a capture having been effected and the moon then having taken up nearly circular orbit around our Earth are too small to make such an eventuality credible."

"NASA scientist Dr. Gordon MacDonald stated, "If the astronomical data are reduced, it is found that the data require that the interior of the moon is more like a hollow than a homogeneous sphere." Nobel chemist Dr. Harold Urey suggested the moon’s reduced density is because of large areas inside the moon where is "simply a cavity." MIT’s Dr. Sean C. Solomon wrote, "the Lunar Orbiter experiments vastly improved our knowledge of the moon’s gravitational field . . . indicating the frightening possibility that the moon might be hollow." In Carl Sagan’s treatise, Intelligent Life in the Universe, the famous astronomer stated, "A natural satellite cannot be a hollow object."

"At a news conference that day, one of the co-directors of the seismic experiment, Maurice Ewing, told reporters scientists were at a loss to explain the ringing. "As for the meaning of it, I would rather not make an interpretation now. But it is as if someone had struck a bell, say in the belfry of a church in a single blow and found that the reverberation continued for an hour." Dr. Frank Press of MIT added "None of us have ever seen anything like this here on Earth. In all of our experience it is quite an extraordinary event. That this rather small impact... produced a signal that lasted an hour is quite beyond the range of our experience." The phenomenom was repeated with the Apollo 13's third stage, which was sent crashing by radio command. This time the reverberations lasted 3 hours and 20 minutes."

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" Two Russian scientists, Michael Vasin and Alexander Shcherbakov advanced an amazing theory in relation to the origin of the moon, in an article published in the Soviet journal Sputnik, in 1970. In the article entitled, ‘Is the Moon the Creation of Alien Intelligence?’ they theorize that the moon is not a completely natural world but a planetoid that was hollowed out by the technology of intelligent beings who directed it through the cosmos and placed it in precise orbit around the earth. In their extraordinary article the Soviet scientists wrote:

“Abandoning the traditional paths of ‘common sense’, we have plunged into what may at first seem to be unbridled and irresponsible fantasy. But the more minutely we go into all the information gathered by man about the moon, the more we are convinced that there is not a single fact to rule out our supposition. Not only that, but many things so far considered to be lunar enigmas are explainable in the light of this new hypothesis”

(Marrs, p.10).

In support of this idea, writer Don Wilson in Secrets of Our Spaceship Moon, appeals to scientists to re-examine the theory in keeping with new information supplied by the Apollo missions, adding,

“Scientists themselves are continuing to uncover bewildering and baffling scientific facts that indicate that the moon is not what it seems, but a world that may not be entirely natural”

(Wilson, p.11).



Marrs, Jim. (1997) Alien Agenda. London: Harper Collins.

Wilson, Don. (1979) Secrets of Our Spaceship Moon. New York: Dell. "

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