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Old 26-04-2013, 07:01 PM   #63661
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Talking of Elm guest house, Murun has found some more gems.

http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.co...dence-22-4-83/

Prosecution at Kasir trial 'slashed 8 hours of video down to 45 minutes'.

That means that somewhere, someone, had at least 8 hours of incriminating video about the goings on at Elm.

This must have been viewed by more than one person.

There are/were, therefore, a fair number of police/judiciary who know very well what went on.

As do the 'guests; no doubt.
A number of whom are still alive - as per heartbeatsalute video link earlier.
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Old 26-04-2013, 07:17 PM   #63662
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clifford is the tip of an upside down iceberg,hes made his fortune hiding the sick secrets of people who think theyve made it.
his arrest means fa as far as the real pedos go,all theyve done is chuck another scalp into the fire.id guess hes already been silenced with a 4/5 year spell in jail out in 2.nothing of importance will happen till the old boys from oxford/cambridge eton/harrow start running from this septic island
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Old 26-04-2013, 07:27 PM   #63663
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Talking of Elm guest house, Murun has found some more gems.

http://spotlightonabuse.wordpress.co...dence-22-4-83/

Prosecution at Kasir trial 'slashed 8 hours of video down to 45 minutes'.

That means that somewhere, someone, had at least 8 hours of incriminating video about the goings on at Elm.

This must have been viewed by more than one person.

There are/were, therefore, a fair number of police/judiciary who know very well what went on.

As do the 'guests; no doubt.
A number of whom are still alive - as per heartbeatsalute video link earlier.
Indeed, the silence is absolutely deafening.

Do TPTB have enough dirt on everyone involved (that haven't been bumped off) that they can ensure there is not one single whistleblower for ANY of this?

OR - do they come forward only to be totally silenced by the police/CPS/etc and scared out of their wits, to never dare to try to speak again?

It smacks of absolutely incomprehensible corruption and state oppression to me.

Meanwhile (even as I type) children are stolen from their families by the 'state' only to be put into perilous, abusive situations that will scar them for life, as we have seen time and time and time again proven on this thread, and in recent news (as they are getting so brazen about things)...
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Old 26-04-2013, 07:34 PM   #63664
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Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 1h

I wonder how many above the age of consent people in the 60's who were groupies,looking for the high life are now selling their stories
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@Lord_Sugar This kind of talk is what has scared victims of the jimmy savile case to come forward- shame on you #paedobritain
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Old 26-04-2013, 07:40 PM   #63665
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Indeed, the silence is absolutely deafening.

Do TPTB have enough dirt on everyone involved (that haven't been bumped off) that they can ensure there is not one single whistleblower for ANY of this?

OR - do they come forward only to be totally silenced by the police/CPS/etc and scared out of their wits, to never dare to try to speak again?

It smacks of absolutely incomprehensible corruption and state oppression to me.

Meanwhile (even as I type) children are stolen from their families by the 'state' only to be put into perilous, abusive situations that will scar them for life, as we have seen time and time and time again proven on this thread, and in recent news (as they are getting so brazen about things)...
Not directly relevant to JS, but an example of what is happening in many places:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...e-orphans-chad
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Old 26-04-2013, 07:51 PM   #63666
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Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 1h

I wonder how many above the age of consent people in the 60's who were groupies,looking for the high life are now selling their stories
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@Lord_Sugar This kind of talk is what has scared victims of the jimmy savile case to come forward- shame on you #paedobritain
see your point alan, there haven't been many in the papers
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Old 26-04-2013, 07:52 PM   #63667
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Not directly relevant to JS, but an example of what is happening in many places:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...e-orphans-chad
Spot on, so sadly

This thread hasn't (I don't think) even touched upon the activities of UN 'peacekeepers' over the last ten/fifteen years or so - sent into the worst conflict zones and crisis points, and the innumerable cases of some of those 'peacekeepers' either swapping/demanding child sex for aid and support, or simply raping local women and children who have absolutely no comeback whatsoever

ENOUGH!!

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Old 26-04-2013, 07:53 PM   #63668
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Maybe not, the tv news said one or more of the girls were as young as fourteen. If that is the case then it puts a different complexion on the matter.

Why hasn't Cliff Richard been arrested yet ???????
Sky saying he is charged with 11 offences of indecent assault relating to 7 complainants. If found guilty it is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Max Clifford earlier said "Since last December I have been living a 24/7 nightmare. A black cloud has been placed over me, obliterating the bright blue skies that I have been fortunate to live my life under for the vast majority of the past 70 years".

Isn't Mr Clifford lucky? 70 years of bright blue skies. He holds a lot of information on a lot of people so perhaps he might like to start singing and give the abused, past, present and future a chance at some of those bright blue skies.
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Old 26-04-2013, 08:02 PM   #63669
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This could do with going viral. It's short and to the point and a great way of getting people who aren't aware of this unfolding story to take note.
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Old 26-04-2013, 08:16 PM   #63670
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Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 1h

I wonder how many above the age of consent people in the 60's who were groupies,looking for the high life are now selling their stories
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@Lord_Sugar This kind of talk is what has scared victims of the jimmy savile case to come forward- shame on you #paedobritain
Lots of gossip about Lord S here : http://order-order.com/2009/08/02/lo...quentin-letts/

'Alan Sugar is an ugly opinionated twerp, a crap performer who is carried by a strong programme (he can’t even point at people properly, have you noticed?) and a stupid man who only got his job because he is a TV personality AND is short.'

But also, and more importantly, he is apparently friendly with Brown, Mandelson and Brittan.
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Old 26-04-2013, 08:30 PM   #63671
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Lots of gossip about Lord S here : http://order-order.com/2009/08/02/lo...quentin-letts/

'Alan Sugar is an ugly opinionated twerp, a crap performer who is carried by a strong programme (he can’t even point at people properly, have you noticed?) and a stupid man who only got his job because he is a TV personality AND is short.'

But also, and more importantly, he is apparently friendly with Brown, Mandelson and Brittan.
re: the friendship angle
it's britain, it's not like there's a choice
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Old 26-04-2013, 08:31 PM   #63672
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see your point alan, there haven't been many in the papers
I'd rather you not comment on my posts, i think you're untrustworthy.
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Old 26-04-2013, 08:37 PM   #63673
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Good Shepherd Care Home

The sheriff has published her findings re the two girls from the Good Shepherd care home who fell to their deaths from the. Erskine Bridge

Inquiry blames Good Shepherd centre over Erskine Bridge deaths

The report said management at the centre - in August, September and October 2009 - should have "given proper regard to the serious nature of the bullying" which Georgia suffered from another young resident.

Sheriff Anderson said management "should to have taken appropriate steps to ensure the removal" of either Georgia or the young person who bullied her.

Source:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-...-west-17906915

Kenneth Roy's conclusions were rather more damning of the systemic failure and various professionals in his three part analysis of this case in the Scottish Review: The girls on the bridge

Source: http://www.scottishreview.net/KRoy271.shtml
I was in there when I was fifteen. It was called St Euphrasia's Training Centre. I was there for eight months. Those were memorable months in 1972. The Convent of the Good Shepherd nuns ran the place along with cooperation with the councils/ social work departments. Security was strong and discipline and religion were strictly applied. It wasn't a place to feel secure..but a place to secure you. When I read about the two girls jumping from the Erskine Bridge I thought about my own time at the Centre. It had certainly had a makeover and bore little resemblance to the "old place". I am so sorry that the girls felt desperate and jumped. I feel there is so much more to this and the Centre may need to be looked at.
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Old 26-04-2013, 08:39 PM   #63674
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/7178063.stm





PR guru Max Clifford, who is representing Richey, revealed the 43-year-old had sold his story to two newspapers.
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Old 26-04-2013, 08:58 PM   #63675
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Off topic I know but piece of 911 plane found between buildings.

http://news.sky.com/story/1083597/pa...-nyc-buildings
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London Journal; For 20%, He Sells Scandal, Keeping Britain Agog




http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/21/wo...tain-agog.html
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Old 26-04-2013, 09:23 PM   #63677
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Indeed, the silence is absolutely deafening.

Do TPTB have enough dirt on everyone involved (that haven't been bumped off) that they can ensure there is not one single whistleblower for ANY of this?

OR - do they come forward only to be totally silenced by the police/CPS/etc and scared out of their wits, to never dare to try to speak again?

It smacks of absolutely incomprehensible corruption and state oppression to me.

Meanwhile (even as I type) children are stolen from their families by the 'state' only to be put into perilous, abusive situations that will scar them for life, as we have seen time and time and time again proven on this thread, and in recent news (as they are getting so brazen about things)...
See, this is what takes my breath away! Every day I think it has to come to a head, because surely to God they can't silence everyone and surely not everyone in a position of power is corrupt, debauched, evil.

I feel immense anxiety at the thought that this is all merely collateral damage and all these wee souls will have been through horrors which nothing can heal for what? If it is systemic then where is the hope?

Max Clifford? It just doesn't sit right with me. Major scare tactics? True?
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Old 26-04-2013, 09:40 PM   #63678
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See, this is what takes my breath away! Every day I think it has to come to a head, because surely to God they can't silence everyone and surely not everyone in a position of power is corrupt, debauched, evil.

I feel immense anxiety at the thought that this is all merely collateral damage and all these wee souls will have been through horrors which nothing can heal for what? If it is systemic then where is the hope?

Max Clifford? It just doesn't sit right with me. Major scare tactics? True?
I also felt sure that pressure was mounting after Savile's death to investigate and flush out the detritus of those child abusers still alive and active and celeb, political or not.
There is a definite dragging out and stalling tactic going on.. Operation Yewtree is almost standing still ...or is it just that the silence from them is because vigorous investigation is still ongoing? Hmmmm
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Old 26-04-2013, 10:14 PM   #63679
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Just found this video of Max Clifford. He mentions a video of two politicians s****ing the same woman. He also boasts that he could make a sensational programme just on 10% of the things he has stopped.

It certainly seems he holds a lot of information.


I don't know if it is significant but when Max Clifford talks about the person giving donations to a hospice, he actually points out of his window a couple of times as if the hospice is close by.

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Old 26-04-2013, 10:37 PM   #63680
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Meanwhile the insidious establishment agenda for the sexualization of children continues unabated. According to this BBC story today, a think tank known as the Sex Education Forum now wants pornography to be taught in schools :-

"Teachers need to know that pornography is not necessarily 'all bad' and can sometimes be 'helpful', a group of sex education experts has suggested.

A new publication advocates pupils being taught how to view pornography in school sex education lessons.

The Sex Education Forum wants pornography taught in terms of "media literacy and representation, gender, sexual behaviour and body image".
Campaigner Lucy Holmes, of No More Page Three, welcomed the idea.

"The more open and honest dialogue we have with young people about sex and porn, the better," said Ms Holmes."

Full story here :-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-22308393

Are Common Purpose behind these creeps? They sound like PIE with better P.R.
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