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Old 19-01-2013, 11:53 PM   #42661
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Whose comments disco?
Wasnt it Sven the mystery man/ cant remember his name on here - was it bejesus, didnt he mention the porn moguls?
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Old 19-01-2013, 11:56 PM   #42662
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Many are doing so much good work, but almost at once, somebody pulls the plug and off it goes after another flight of fancy.

I have been gathering so much information over the last few months.

I could never share it on here for that reason.

I cannot even recommend certain people to register here, for the simple reason that they are Savile and Satanic Abuse Victims and the pictures of a Grinning Savile are everywhere here.

Are people not aware that these are triggers???
We are an unruly bunch here but I do think that at the very least any member with Savile in their profile pic should change it. Can well understand how that might be triggering.
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Old 19-01-2013, 11:58 PM   #42663
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Wasnt it Sven the mystery man/ cant remember his name on here - was it bejesus, didnt he mention the porn moguls?
Not sure. The post about Sullivan though was on page 1865.

The post about Gold was page 1539.

So should be in the pages just before those ones hopefully.
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Old 19-01-2013, 11:59 PM   #42664
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...s-1619966.html

Dickens definitely seen as being out in the cold or maverick less political intellect.

The obituary is not the usual glowing bullshit.

I think he was a thorn in the side of many. Perhaps even he may not have understood what he was up against in the 80`s.

Greville Janner QC A man of intellectectual superiority despised him (not my opinion). When Dickens was proved right no accolades came his way.

http://ukpaedos-exposed.com/cover-ups/

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Frank Beck died on 31 May 1994, two and a half years after his imprisonment, apparently as a result of a heart attack whilst playing badminton at Whitemoor Prison in Cambridgeshire. He was aged fifty two.
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Brief excerpt of Norman Tebbit with Savile plus Savile's access to the House of Commons.

Jimmy Savile "Waved" Through Security At Westminster. - YouTube
Do we really think it likely that any of these high level perps who are still alive will really face justice?
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:01 AM   #42665
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Not sure. The post about Sullivan though was on page 1865.

The post about Gold was page 1539.

So should be in the pages just before those ones hopefully.
K, ta, think I have it saved to my notepad anyway.
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:09 AM   #42666
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Do we really think it likely that any of these high level perps who are still alive will really face justice?
they're going to have to this time or the queen, the royal family and the government are finished

the country is full of people just like all of us in here.. waiting and watching
this is not going to be swept away this time
even their freemasons network are not going to be able to cover it all up this time, once one or two fall they all fall
no honour amongst scum like this

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Old 20-01-2013, 12:10 AM   #42667
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Unsure if this has been posted before.



States about JS being a procurer, media distractions & the royal family.

Edit - apologies can't load the link :-(

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Old 20-01-2013, 12:12 AM   #42668
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I may be wrong but I think Jimmy is more saying here that us analyzing every sentence by the survivors for little hints can be deeply traumatic. I've been talking on his blog tonight and hope we can get this all sorted.

I was so lucky to have come from a loving family (even if they were dysfunctional) and never suffered in the way we have been discussing since page one. We are dealing with the most awful crimes here people, stuff that if we haven't been through it ourselves we could (happily) never imagine is possible, but that is why we are here.

That is why Anders set the thread up.

The crimes these 'people' in power commit are evil, pure and simple. We have to stop it all NOW.

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Old 20-01-2013, 12:20 AM   #42669
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:21 AM   #42670
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they're going to have to this time or the queen, the royal family and the government are finished

the country is full of people just like all of us in here.. waiting and watching
this is not going to be swept away this time
even their freemasons network are not going to be able to cover it all up this time, once one or two fall they all fall
no honour amongst scum like this
You're right. This isn't going away. Too much is in the public domain already.

And we are taking notes and naming names (except where to do so will prejudice a future criminal investigation).

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Old 20-01-2013, 12:28 AM   #42671
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I don't disagree but anyone that's triggered by seeing Jimmy isn't going to get very far in a thread where he's in the title, avatar or not.

Besides, people can turn off both embedded pictures and avatars in their personal settings so you don't have to open yourself to the risk of seeing him.
Yes, yes, abuse survivors need to fiddle about with settings before they can come on here at all without risking being traumatized...

Silly them.

Your position is clear
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:37 AM   #42672
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Thumbs up Jimmy Savile OUTED as a PAEDO OCT 3rd

I was just watching an obscure interview with savile by the yorkshire post. During the video, a shot of his wall momentarily appears with a very blury photo right next to his cherished gold and platinum discs.

However, upon closer examination, this framed photo appears to show 3 of NASA's STS 121 crew - Lisa Nowak, Piers Sellers, Stephanie Wilson

It's interesting that Mark Kelly was also in the STS 121 crew. As you know Mark is married to Gabby Giffords, who was shot by her youtube 'friend' - Jared Loughner.

I've got a lot, lot more to say about all this but I'm too tired right now. For the time being I'll leave this in your very capable hands.



http://reporter.leeds.ac.uk/press_re...nt/sellers.htm - sts crew in leeds DEC 2006
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007...adio.theguide1 - sam delaney article that mentions nowak nasa photo in saviles flat
http://oddculture.com/wp-content/upl...be-profile.jpg - gabby giffords youtube page screengrab
http://thepopulist.net/wp-content/up...la-Firefox.png screen grab of jareds you tube channel 'class it up'
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:38 AM   #42673
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I would have responded individually to everyone who has posted here about my less than congratulatory blog post about this forum, but I have decided to compose this open reply as a one-time only and final comment.

Judging by the traffic coming from this forum, some are at least curious and that is good, those who have posted comments, good also. A balanced and well researched response to anything I post will earn my respect, even if I vehemently disagree with the content. All I have offered here is my opinion. An opinion based on what I have experienced and truly believe to be the case. If you read my blog entry in it's entirety, you will have seen that I also said that there were 'notable exceptions' to my overall opinion of this forum. That, of course, is up to you to decide who they are. I shall give you a clue, they are the ones who have contacted me since with their objections, which were resolved in a reasoned and balanced manner by all concerned. I am not here to apologise, It does not matter to me in the least what opinions have been formed with regard to myself, I don't know you, as you do not know me. My life will not be damaged in any way by negative opinions, or even ridicule, I have learned the hard way how to deal with doubt and even blind hatred.

For the most part, there are good people on this Forum, there are detractors of course, there are also some who are so blinkered by their self-importance, they are incapable of seeing any opinion that does not comply with the 'hive' mentality. I gave up massaging people's fragile ego's a long time ago. I have reached a stage of my life, where I will speak up against injustice, and apathy, and yes, ignorance and stupidity too. I have no more 'right' to speak than anybody else, I only ask for a fair hearing as I have patiently listened to others opinions however 'wacky' they appear to be, without any negative comment on my part. All have a right to speak, and all deserve a fair hearing, which sadly is never the case on this forum.

I am an ordinary person, I have worked all my life, I have a family life and I just get on with things. I was dragged into this Maelstrom against my will, my hand was forced if you like, by circumstances beyond my control. If Steven Messham was not paraded before the TV cameras and plastered across the mainstream media, you would never have heard from me. I said at the beginning that Messham was used as a distraction, to muddy the waters of the emerging scandals that were breaking out of the BBC and the establishment. Jimmy Savile was, an important cog in the whole wheel, but the establishment has now handed him over to the wolves. Savile's most important function was that he was a procurer, the Abuse he was directly responsible for was his 'perk' shall we say.

The kind of people that Savile was supplying, hold off the scale positions of power and wealth, not only in this country but worldwide. I cannot stress enough with only words to use, how deep and high the scale of this procurement goes. Satanic, Ritualistic, Murderous? All are true, and the depravity of it would turn the stomach of a goat inside out. Most normal thinking people could not even begin to imagine the hell some of these children have been subjected to. I have been asked on here, on more than one occasion to 'name names' and to tell what I know, which is fair I guess as this forum has been setup to uncover the truth. For reasons I will not divulge I am not prepared to do so.

If you have gone to take your children to school, and found a pool of brake fluid on the floor beneath your newly MOT'd car, where the brake pipes had 'corroded' overnight, you would understand. If you had been thrown into some of the most depraved and brutal institutions this country has to offer, fought off sadistic Paedophiles more than twice your size and weight, breaking almost every bone in your upper body in the process you would understand. If you had permanently lost the sight in one eye after the orbit was crushed under the heel of a boot, you would understand. If you were 'branded' with a utility knife, you would understand.

I could go on, but do not want to bore you with details, but let's say I do understand all of the above and that is the nightmare world that I have been forced to confront again. I am not asking you to believe anything, it does not matter to me. All I ask is that you give everyone a fair hearing, many of the Survivors of the Savile reign of terror and the Care System have been ridiculed, denied justice and swept under the carpet as some dirty little secret. Picking them apart in such a public way is just cruel, especially when this is the first time that many of them have found the courage to actually speak about their experiences. There are people far more qualified than I or many of you, who are better placed to analyse and utilise the information that these people hold.

To finish, I will add that the extremely fragile and horrendously traumatised survivors of Satanic abuse are going to have fragmented memories. Some of these people have been brutalised from the day they were born in some cases. Many cannot even recall with any accuracy their actual birth dates, so is it any wonder that they cannot fire off answers on request to anybody who decides to tear them apart in such a public way..


Thank You Jimmy for your comprehensive and candid message. I think that it needs to reposted in the morning as well, as the night owls will have moved on the thread by a couple of pages by then and it could be missed. This needs to be seen by everyone!

I think that we have all come to the realisation that this is getting extremely serious now. Forces are at play the majority of us cannot even begin to comprehend. I really hope that as someone said we can get to a kind of Domino effect and begin to bring some down, so that the rest (to a point) may follow, only people power is going to do it tho'.

Please, please stay safe

Goodnight all - the dog and me are off to bed !
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:39 AM   #42674
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Hi everyone, been lurking & researching since Oct. Forum virgin, pc novice, can't do links-Please be gentle! Re:MM docs. Top row,no3,6 down- Sir Stuart Bell mp died 13 Oct 2012,wrote 'paris69' & 'When Salem came to the boro.' On the list that includes 2 singers- Sir Charles Irving mp for Cheltenham, died 30 Mar 1995. Also of interest is the 1997 General Election result:Cities of London & Westminster, another 'Sadowitz signpost?' -just sayin', spelt wrong, honest investigation! Finally 'puddles'-agree with others,not taking the credit, Major Sir Patrick Wall mp, royal marine,Hull,yachts,monday club, holidays in Africa, radio270 & Proctor.Thats 10 mps so far & others linked to shirt shop. Apologise for format,no links etc. Working together your shaping the future.[/B]
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:40 AM   #42675
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I may be wrong but I think Jimmy is more saying here that us analyzing every sentence by the survivors for little hints can be deeply traumatic. I've been talking on his blog tonight and hope we can get this all sorted.

I was so lucky to have come from a loving family (even if they were dysfunctional) and never suffered in the way we have been discussing since page one. We are dealing with the most awful crimes here people, stuff that if we haven't been through it ourselves we could (happily) never imagine is possible, but that is why we are here.

That is why Anders set the thread up.

The crimes these 'people' in power commit are evil, pure and simple. We have to stop it all NOW.
And we're trying in our own small, way. We may not get it right, we might be on the wrong track sometimes, but we're doing our best, and we're trying. At least we're trying.

Most here won't be researchers, don't have inside information and have no more tools than Google to rely on. We haven't got much going for us to help us out in fact, except a will to try to do something.
If that's not good enough for some following this thread, then tough.

A few months ago I recall a cry for help on this thread by a poster wanting to contact someone in the public eye. I provided them with that person's personal email address, and not even a simple "thanks" was forthcoming. Not that I needed one, but it would have been nice. Would I bother myself again? No I would not. I'll leave it at that.

I'm sick of the drama too so shall also call it a night.
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:43 AM   #42676
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Hi everyone, been lurking & researching since Oct. Forum virgin, pc novice, can't do links-Please be gentle! Re:MM docs. Top row,no3,6 down- Sir Stuart Bell mp died 13 Oct 2012,wrote 'paris69' & 'When Salem came to the boro.' On the list that includes 2 singers- Sir Charles Irving mp for Cheltenham, died 30 Mar 1995. Also of interest is the 1997 General Election result:Cities of London & Westminster, another 'Sadowitz signpost?' -just sayin', spelt wrong, honest investigation! Finally 'puddles'-agree with others,not taking the credit, Major Sir Patrick Wall mp, royal marine,Hull,yachts,monday club, holidays in Africa, radio270 & Proctor.Thats 10 mps so far & others linked to shirt shop. Apologise for format,no links etc. Working together your shaping the future.[/B]

Hello, craftyhen. 'Members of Paediment'
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:45 AM   #42677
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Yes, yes, abuse survivors need to fiddle about with settings before they can come on here at all without risking being traumatized...

Silly them.

Your position is clear
I've been thinking. Yep I know. Danger.

One of the problems is a misconception of what this forum is about.

It's titled 'Jimmy Savile outed as a paedo'

From reading Anders posts he knew that this revelation unlocked a door to a much bigger spectrum of abuse and deceit at the highest levels in the land.

These are the truths that are being uncovered

For those who have been abused we can only offer our support - our voice- our hearts and our endeavours and a pledge to go on fighting until the truth is acknowledged and justice is done.

We are not qualified in most part to do more tho I for one wish I could.

Whatever anyone may say we cannot be accused of sitting back and doing nothing.

We are raising awareness and support as are many many others.

I always think of these words.

To thine own self be true. And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.

Sleep well all and much love
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Most here won't be researchers, don't have inside information and have no more tools than Google to rely on. We haven't got much going for us to help us out in fact, except a will to try to do something.
If that's not good enough for some following this thread, then tough.
Yep, although someone on this forum whose name I forget recommended a link providing some alternatives to Google, and I saved it to favourites:


http://deep-web.org/how-to-research/...earch-engines/


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A few months ago I recall a cry for help on this thread by a poster wanting to contact someone in the public eye. I provided them with that person's personal email address, and not even a simple "thanks" was forthcoming. Not that I needed one, but it would have been nice. Would I bother myself again? No I would not. I'll leave it at that.
That's how life is, unfortunately. Very few people are grateful when you do them a favour.
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:46 AM   #42679
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grevill..._of_Braunstone

Of all the wiki pages I`ve studied for links and connections I find this one horrific.

I Know it has not really been touched on but The Magic Circle is a perfect vehicle to hide non mainstream magic within mainstream.

So for example Paul Daniels has been accepted by the masses as an entertainer.

Greville Janner also appears to be a member of the magic circle as does Prince Charles.

Each to their own but along with the historic allegations against him, his vocal put downs of Geoffrey Dickens investigating satanic ritual abuse, PiE,schooling you are left wondering where in the puzzle a protected individual such as Janner fits.
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Old 20-01-2013, 12:50 AM   #42680
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Hi everyone, been lurking & researching since Oct. Forum virgin, pc novice, can't do links-Please be gentle! Re:MM docs. Top row,no3,6 down- Sir Stuart Bell mp died 13 Oct 2012,wrote 'paris69' & 'When Salem came to the boro.' On the list that includes 2 singers- Sir Charles Irving mp for Cheltenham, died 30 Mar 1995. Also of interest is the 1997 General Election result:Cities of London & Westminster, another 'Sadowitz signpost?' -just sayin', spelt wrong, honest investigation! Finally 'puddles'-agree with others,not taking the credit, Major Sir Patrick Wall mp, royal marine,Hull,yachts,monday club, holidays in Africa, radio270 & Proctor.Thats 10 mps so far & others linked to shirt shop. Apologise for format,no links etc. Working together your shaping the future.[/B]
Love your title

Welcome Craftyhen to this rabbit hole of ours, now you have started posting don't stop !
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