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Old 15-02-2011, 08:26 AM   #41
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Too many different definitions of ego.
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Old 15-02-2011, 09:38 AM   #42
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Ambler, could you please expand upon the sedon technique?

I'm not sure about this Dwoskin fella. I saw a brief youtube video from alecture of his and i didn't really gel with it if you know what i mean.
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Old 15-02-2011, 10:07 AM   #43
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Isnt your ego your "I"?
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Not at all. As far as I was aware, you ego is your "I", your sense of distinct "self". If you still have one of those, you still have an ego.
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That's what I thought, I mean if you smoke salvia and you become the carpet your still aware that your a carpet now that's your I, but if you think you have died and you don't know what or where you are then isn't that ego death? I don't get the op sounds like a lot of nonsense tbh
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They couldnt. If you have no sense of "I" how could you communicate?
I know what you mean. This 'getting rid of the ego' is new age fluffy nonsense in my opinion.
I think they confuse it with 'getting rid of the influence of the moon' 'stop being a moon-puppet', 'taming the dragon within' keeping the 'R' complex in check.
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Old 15-02-2011, 12:43 PM   #44
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The theory of non communication is based on the idea that self awareness And self identity is ego mechanical. So to lose one you lose the other.

What were really talking about with ego is psychological traits .we call self serving meglomaniacle traits ego when in fact even the benevolent aspect is technically part of the psychology of ego, part of ego mechanics , if you will.

But ego and cognition wouldnt seem to me to be inextricably linked. So we must be talking about psychology.

Ego is the psychology of interaction where as awareness , consciousness doesnt require ego. I learned that when I had an ischemic attack.

Interestingly now that I think of it , the mind actually interacts internally with the base consciousness out of ego. So your mind actually is a serious barrier to the raw consciousness within. Dropping the self worshipping aspect of ego actually enables raw consciousness to manifest.

Its allowance of influence to supercede self worship is the potential of self miracle.
interesting theory, sounds right.

an update...took a long nap, vivid, interesting dreams...feel rested and more relaxed.

before there was a very distinct high from being freed...then the lows inevitably came, because we're still in polarity. my body is not used to my mind not being "influenced", so panic set in. used EFT to get rid of it, lotta childhood fears came to the surface, as if the mind was leading me down the right path.

sitting alone in the dark lots of fears came up...programmed fears of letting go, becoming part of the all, success.

i feel like a different person. the best way to describe it is not caring for the trivialities of limitation. today i blatantly called this agent who's been flirting with my scripts for years and demanded he read my script and get back to me (a big budget sci-fi script)

let me backtrack...before that i just had the feeling i should go to the agency and demand they take my script seriously. it was a feeling of just knowing its supposed to happen and wondering why they're being hesitant. i was fully prepared to just go down there (seemingly like a mad man, but not caring), but then realized it would be easier and more "polite" to call first...so i did.

keep in mind these are things i would never have fathomed of doing before today. the confidence was overwhelming, i just demanded it, and knew it was supposed to happen. thats the biggest thing that has changed, as the ego is timid and weak, false feeling of control, when it's just like a frightened child. that has vanished...though the body has memory, almost like cologne or perfume and it simply needs to be washed off...the fear i was feeling is like the cologne still being there...im in the process of washing it off.

i feel amazing, so strong and powerful, i barely need sleep. last night i was up all night and felt fine, with just a few hours sleep.
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Old 15-02-2011, 12:47 PM   #45
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Ambler, could you please expand upon the sedon technique?

I'm not sure about this Dwoskin fella. I saw a brief youtube video from alecture of his and i didn't really gel with it if you know what i mean.
dont worry about the man, he's just a vessel...the technique works, its part of the changing energies and you need to latch onto that because its going to save you as the world gets more and more insane...your mind wont be able to handle it, so it needs to be cleared out (ego)...those who dont do this will have problems dealing with these changes, which are coming fast and furious. do yourself a favor.

dont worry about the questions, its too slow, just release a few times and feel whats its like to release, and then be on automatic pilot, because you need to do it all day every day for months to go free...lots of programming. the emotion is whats the problem...its coming from ego, so releasing each emotion, positive and negative drains the ego, like a sink full of water.
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Old 15-02-2011, 02:24 PM   #46
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Hi, Ambler.

I've read your posts. The thing that you decided to let go, sounds true to me,
because I find that the most liberating thing people can do.
Letting go is the hardest thing there is, really letting go.

Just stay cautious, ego can come back, wrapped up in more sophisticated
delusions about himself, making even harder to detect it's games.

Good luck.
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Hi, Ambler.

I've read your posts. The thing that you decided to let go, sounds true to me,
because I find that the most liberating thing people can do.
Letting go is the hardest thing there is, really letting go.

Just stay cautious, ego can come back, wrapped up in more sophisticated
delusions about himself, making even harder to detect it's games.

Good luck.
thanks.
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Old 15-02-2011, 02:56 PM   #48
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CONGRATULATIONS! The 'Method' works. Are you now aware of everything like Lester? What will you do now?

To the others; please stop lashing out. There are a lot of definitions of ego, but the Sedona Method/ Release Technique is about pulling up and letting go of the subconscious, which ultimately rests on the belief 'I am an individual seperate from the all'.
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Old 15-02-2011, 03:27 PM   #49
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CONGRATULATIONS! The 'Method' works. Are you now aware of everything like Lester? What will you do now?
i wouldn't say im aware of everything, not consciously, i am aware of my purpose and what needs to be done to fix the planet and my role in that process.

what i will do now is make a film to help shift consciousness, its why im here. its a great feeling being free, but my body and mind are still adjusting to it, takes a bit of time.

the best way to describe it is extreme confidence, just knowing and simply doing it without the chatter in the back of your mind stopping you and making you miserable. lots to fix in this world.
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What most people who study ego mean is the narcissistic self serving aspect of the personality. The needing of self importance and other associated aspect.

Being able to drop that part of the ego is relative to people saying " I dropped my ego."

In my hippy jam band one of the most tortuous aspects of the band was the ego clashes, i went ballistic many times just hating that until I learned that I could as Ambler did, release it, I dont need to feel validation for being important or special but even having released it , it sneaks up and makes surprise appearances that , of course I later lament.

Thats my experience.
i was going to post something similar. its easy to relate the ego to your complete sense of individuality, but i think there are different levels of ego. i think it is possible to lessen or let go of the more negative aspects of the ego mind, while still being able to function in the world as an individual.

ive been doing something similar to let go of fear. just using visualisations and eft type tapping, mostly on my head whenever i notice myself caught in those useless negative though patterns. been very useful and seems to be working wonders at the moment, although i still have a massive ego

i don't think you should fight the ego, just learn to recognise when it is acting out of yours and everyone elses best interests

even if you go through ego death, and realise that you are just an interconnected speck of oneness, you are still you deep down and still have some individuality. i dont know what the superego means in psyche terms, but maybe that is what you go into when you go past the negative ego mind
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Old 15-02-2011, 03:36 PM   #51
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I'd been releasing using the sedona method/release technique for months, day and night, constantly, nearly every second.

and last night it happened...i released the last vestiges of my ego...i did a major release, just asked myself this very simple question:

"could you let it all go?"

and i said yes,

and it was gone...i now dont care about anything, it's a distinct feeling...i still feel, but im not scared of anything, even death. i just feel free.

things are still annoying, but i dont care either way how it turns out. i just dont care. i dont even care what people think of me.
Woah good for you. I'm jealous. What is the Sedona technique and how should one apply it?
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Woah good for you. I'm jealous. What is the Sedona technique and how should one apply it?
dont be jealous, just do it. there's plenty of stuff online on how to do the method...i prefer larry crane's release technique though, same thing, but better IMO...EFT is also a big help...
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http://www.sedona.com/

http://www.releasetechnique.com/

You can torrent both of them apparently. The Release Technique used to be called The Abundance Course.
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Old 15-02-2011, 03:52 PM   #54
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Light is a passive energy, its active powers are love and compassion.
Darkness is a passive energy, its active powers are ego and fear.

Love and compassion, ego and fear.. are real energies.. they can be
channeled, used, transmuted and projected. Souls that thrive on love
have no ego in them.. but ego as an energy can pull at them and can
manipulate them.

As long as darkness is within a solar system, such as ours.. ego is all
around us, pulling at our thoughts every moment of the day. The trick
is to steel your mind against ego and live from the heart instead of the
mind.

You cannot say "I have no ego." Of course you have no ego, you never
had ego, but you are being influenced by ego externally.. all of us on
this planet, is being influenced externally by ego. No one has reached
a point where he has become immune to ego.. sorry to disappoint.

People will only be free of ego, when darkness has completely left the
solar system. Since ego is the active power of darkness.. if darkness is
gone, then so is ego. When darkness leaves, no one will be affected by
ego anymore. We as souls don't have to evolve beyond ego, we just
have to join the global work to free the solar system from darkness, we
cannot individually become free of ego.

Through affirmations we can steel our mind against ego, and by living
from the heart and from love, we can diminish the effects ego has on us,
but as long darkness is in the solar system, ego will affect you.

Ego as an energy, has these effects on us, so when we feel ourselves
being influenced to behave, feel and think in such ways, we can make an
affirmation and say it in our mind, to condition our mind to deny ego.

Ego makes us look at our deficits.
Ego makes us look at what we don't have.
Ego makes us compare us with others.
Ego makes us feel hurt when insulted.
Ego will make us angry when provoked.
Ego makes us feel inferior or superior.
Ego will make us sad when attacked.
Ego pulls us to thinking negatively.
Ego makes us desperate.
Ego makes us lose hope.

Light souls, the original inhabitants of Earth, like many people on this forum,
have no ego in their soul, but they are affected by ego. So when you feel
any of the things I mentioned above, whenever you have a negative thought
you say in your mind: "This thought is not my own, I deny it and I let it go."

As long as darkness is still in this solar system, ego is here, and affects all
of us, none of us can say "I am free of ego." But with mental and spiritual
work we can steel our mind against ego, and live from the heart to greatly
diminish the effects ego energies have on us.

The same can be done with fear, which is another active power of darkness.
Whenever you are afraid, you say "This fear is entirely illusionary, I let it go."
Because Light souls don't feel fear.. but fear can pull at us.. the fear is not
ours, it is like a sticky web pulling us out of a position of courage.
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Old 15-02-2011, 04:11 PM   #55
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Light is a passive energy, its active powers are love and compassion.
Darkness is a passive energy, its active powers are ego and fear.

Love and compassion, ego and fear.. are real energies.. they can be
channeled, used, transmuted and projected. Souls that thrive on love
have no ego in them.. but ego as an energy can pull at them and can
manipulate them.

As long as darkness is within a solar system, such as ours.. ego is all
around us, pulling at our thoughts every moment of the day. The trick
is to steel your mind against ego and live from the heart instead of the
mind.

You cannot say "I have no ego." Of course you have no ego, you never
had ego, but you are being influenced by ego externally.. all of us on
this planet, is being influenced externally by ego. No one has reached
a point where he has become immune to ego.. sorry to disappoint.

People will only be free of ego, when darkness has completely left the
solar system. Since ego is the active power of darkness.. if darkness is
gone, then so is ego. When darkness leaves, no one will be affected by
ego anymore. We as souls don't have to evolve beyond ego, we just
have to join the global work to free the solar system from darkness, we
cannot individually become free of ego.

Through affirmations we can steel our mind against ego, and by living
from the heart and from love, we can diminish the effects ego has on us,
but as long darkness is in the solar system, ego will affect you.

Ego as an energy, has these effects on us, so when we feel ourselves
being influenced to behave, feel and think in such ways, we can make an
affirmation and say it in our mind, to condition our mind to deny ego.

Ego makes us look at our deficits.
Ego makes us look at what we don't have.
Ego makes us compare us with others.
Ego makes us feel hurt when insulted.
Ego will make us angry when provoked.
Ego makes us feel inferior or superior.
Ego will make us sad when attacked.
Ego pulls us to thinking negatively.
Ego makes us desperate.
Ego makes us lose hope.

Light souls, the original inhabitants of Earth, like many people on this forum,
have no ego in their soul, but they are affected by ego. So when you feel
any of the things I mentioned above, whenever you have a negative thought
you say in your mind: "This thought is not my own, I deny it and I let it go."

As long as darkness is still in this solar system, ego is here, and affects all
of us, none of us can say "I am free of ego." But with mental and spiritual
work we can steel our mind against ego, and live from the heart to greatly
diminish the effects ego energies have on us.

The same can be done with fear, which is another active power of darkness.
Whenever you are afraid, you say "This fear is entirely illusionary, I let it go."
Because Light souls don't feel fear.. but fear can pull at us.. the fear is not
ours, it is like a sticky web pulling us out of a position of courage.
well since we're all one, if others have ego, i still have ego. what you're saying makes sense. lets just say a little bit of ego has been dropped from the whole
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The ego - meaning your egotistical thoughts and ways?

or your - 'self' ?

The first would be good to get rid of, the latter, I'm not sure if you can function in a physical body when you don't need it, it would be like driving a car without using the steering wheel.
Even if you sit back and let the Godverse take over...you would still need to move your body about your 'self'. As we have free will on this physical plane.

but as a short term exercise for meditation it must feel good I guess...
so congrats....maybe this is 'enlightenment' as Jesus and Buddha etc... talked about....

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i was going to post something similar. its easy to relate the ego to your complete sense of individuality, but i think there are different levels of ego. i think it is possible to lessen or let go of the more negative aspects of the ego mind, while still being able to function in the world as an individual.

ive been doing something similar to let go of fear. just using visualisations and eft type tapping, mostly on my head whenever i notice myself caught in those useless negative though patterns. been very useful and seems to be working wonders at the moment, although i still have a massive ego

i don't think you should fight the ego, just learn to recognise when it is acting out of yours and everyone elses best interests

even if you go through ego death, and realise that you are just an interconnected speck of oneness, you are still you deep down and still have some individuality. i dont know what the superego means in psyche terms, but maybe that is what you go into when you go past the negative ego mind
fighting the ego never works. I found that first I needed to embrace and understand it, and then I found the difficulty in tackling self change by external stimuli. Events present themselves as learning tools. In some ways I just got tired of expending the energy and in others just releasing it worked, while in others The hard work of the world mirroring my flaws to me to teach me what to change, and in the latter case I found open admission of err to the point of embarrassment or even self humiliation was the most massive tool to quickly change an aspect.
The "dark" side of ego hates the truth and in truths presence is completely weakened.
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you have to an moron to want to get rid of your ego, just make you easier to brainwash

there some wolves in sheep cloth posting real stupid stuff on here.....

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In the late 1950s, psychologist Robert Jay Lifton studied former prisoners of Korean War and Chinese war camps. He determined that they'd undergone a multistep process that began with attacks on the prisoner's sense of self and ended with what appeared to be a change in beliefs. Lifton ultimately defined a set of steps involved in the brainwashing cases he studied:

1. Assault on identity
2. Guilt
3. Self-betrayal
4. Breaking point
5. Leniency
6. Compulsion to confess
7. Channeling of guilt
8. Releasing of guilt
9. Progress and harmony
10. Final confession and rebirth

­Each of thes­e stages takes place in an environment of isolation, meaning all "normal" social reference points are unavailable, and mind-clouding techniques like sleep deprivation and malnutrition are typically part of the process. There is often the presence or constant threat of physical harm, which adds to the target's difficulty in thinking critically and independently.

We can roughly divide the process Lifton identified into three stages: breaking down the self, introducing the possibility of salvation, and rebuilding the self.

Breaking down the self

* Assault on identity: You are not who you think you are.
This is a systematic attack on a target's sense of self (also called his identity or ego) and his core belief system. The agent denies everything that makes the target who he is: "You are not a soldier." "You are not a man." "You are not defending freedom." The target is under constant attack for days, weeks or months, to the point that he becomes exhausted, confused and disoriented. In this state, his beliefs seem less solid.


* Guilt: You are bad.
While the identity crisis is setting in, the agent is simultaneously creating an overwhelming sense of guilt in the target. He repeatedly and mercilessly attacks the subject for any "sin" the target has committed, large or small. He may criticize the target for everything from the "evilness" of his beliefs to the way he eats too slowly. The target begins to feel a general sense of shame, that everything he does is wrong.

* Self-betrayal: Agree with me that you are bad.
Once the subject is disoriented and drowning in guilt, the agent forces him (either with the threat of physical harm or of continuance of the mental attack) to denounce his family, friends and peers who share the same "wrong" belief system that he holds. This betrayal of his own beliefs and of people he feels a sense of loyalty to increases the shame and loss of identity the target is already experiencing.

* Breaking point: Who am I, where am I and what am I supposed to do?
With his identity in crisis, experiencing deep shame and having betrayed what he has always believed in, the target may undergo what in the lay community is referred to as a "nervous breakdown." In psychology, "nervous breakdown" is really just a collection of severe symptoms that can indicate any number of psychological disturbances. It may involve uncontrollable sobbing, deep depression and general disorientation. The target may have lost his grip on reality and have the feeling of being completely lost and alone.

When the target reaches his breaking point, his sense of self is pretty much up for grabs -- he has no clear understanding of who he is or what is happening to him. At this point, the agent sets up the temptation to convert to another belief system that will save the target from his misery.
some of you are not getting the information and eduction spread by good members ...so called enlightenment you are getting brainwashed by listning to certian unscrupulous members posting in disguise(guru , so called enlighten ones...promising you some quick fix to happiness)

again don`t be put off by what other members say about me....look I posted a link read about brainwashing or yourself from any source , research yourself......don`t believe what I say on face value, check it out.....


also find out how cults work

don`t get fooled into siting all day at your pc getting your so called "none ego" prasied by all the other believers.....
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I think what the OP may be saying is that he no longer identifies with his ego,and when you no longer identify with it it loses its power.
We are not our egos we are infinite consciousness!

The sedona method is a simple technique where you identify your thoughts and feelings and then you release them.Your thoughts and feelings are not who you are and when you let them go you feel a tremendous sense of freedom.
Letting go of everything helps you to remember what you really are.
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you have to an moron to want to get rid of your ego, just make you easier to brainwash

there some wolves in sheep cloth posting real stupid stuff on here.....

http://health.howstuffworks.com/ment...inwashing1.htm


some of you are not getting the information and eduction spread by good members ...so called enlightenment you are getting brainwashed by listning to certian unscrupulous members posting in disguise(guru , so called enlighten ones...promising you some quick fix to happiness)

again don`t be put off by what other members say about me....look I posted a link read about brainwashing or yourself from any source , research yourself......don`t believe what I say on face value, check it out.....
who are these so called good members and who are the bad? and please explain why we should listen to you.
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