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Old 10-12-2009, 05:27 AM   #41
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The positioning of troops in Afganistan are for the coming attack on Iran.[some time in 2010/sooner rather than later] or I'll eat my urban sombrero.


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Old 10-12-2009, 05:35 AM   #42
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The positioning of troops in Afganistan are for the coming attack on Iran.[some time in 2010/sooner rather than later] or I'll eat my urban sombrero.


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Old 13-12-2009, 08:04 AM   #43
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Is Obama Really Preparing For Civil War?

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According to an obscure report in the European Union Times (EUTimes.net), "Russian Military Analysts are reporting to Prime Minister Putin that US President Barack Obama has issued an order to his Northern Command's (USNORTHCOM) top leader, US Air Force General Gene Renuart, to 'begin immediately' increasing his military forces to 1 million troops by January 30, 2010, in what these reports warn is an expected outbreak of civil war within the United States before the end of winter.

"According to these reports, Obama has had over these past weeks 'numerous' meetings with his war council abut how best to manage the expected implosion of his Nation's banking system while at the same time attempting to keep the United States military hegemony over the World in what Russian Military Analysts state is a 'last ditch gambit' whose success is 'far from certain.'"

The EU Times article continues by saying, "To the fears of Obama over the United States erupting into civil war once the full extent of the rape and pillaging of these peoples by their banks and government becomes known to them, grim evidence now shows the likelihood of this occurring much sooner than later."

The Times story goes on to say that there are "over 220 million American people armed to the teeth and ready to explode."

The Times article concludes by saying, "Though the coming civil war in the United States is being virtually ignored by their propaganda media, the same cannot be said of Russia, where leading Russian political analyst, Professor Igor Panarin has long warned that the economic turmoil in the United States has confirmed his long-held view that the US is heading for collapse."

Many of us would be inclined to pooh-pooh such a story, but then there is this column from Bloomberg.com entitled "Arming Goldman With Pistols Against Public," written by Alice Schroeder. According to Ms Schroeder:

"'I just wrote my first reference for a gun permit,' said a friend, who told me of swearing to the good character of a Goldman Sachs Group Inc. banker who applied to the local police for a permit to buy a pistol. The banker had told this friend of mine that senior Goldman people have loaded up on firearms and are now equipped to defend themselves if there is a populist uprising against the bank."

There is no doubt that the American people have good reason to despise these international banksters epitomized by Goldman Sachs. Even one of Goldman's poster-boys, Henry Paulson, US Treasury secretary and former Goldman CEO, admitted that the American people were fed up. Schroeder quotes Paulson as saying, during testimony to Congress last summer, "[People] were unhappy with the big discrepancies in wealth, but they at least believed in the system and in some form of market-driven capitalism. But if we had a complete meltdown, it could lead to people questioning the basis of the system."

Schroeder correctly opines, "There you have it. The bailout was meant to keep the curtain drawn on the way the rich make money, not from the free market, but from the lack of one. Goldman Sachs blew its cover when the firm's revenue from trading reached a record $27 billion in the first nine months of this year, and a public that was writhing in financial agony caught on that the profits earned on taxpayer capital were going to pay employee bonuses."

Schroeder concludes her column by saying, "And if the proles [proletariat: plebs, working class, peasants] really do appear brandishing pitchforks at the doors of Park Avenue and the gates of Round Hill Road, you can be sure that the Goldman guys and their families will be holed up in their safe rooms with their firearms."

So, do Wall Street and Russian analysts know something that we don't know? Is this why George W. Bush initiated USNORTHCOM to begin with? Is this why Barack Obama is beefing up USNORTHCOM? This would help explain the reports of all those potential detention camps that have been constructed (including the abandoned military installations that have refurbished security fences, guard towers, etc., around them). Has the American people's disgust with these crooks and thieves within the federal government and Wall Street reached a boiling point?

There is no question that people are angry, and for good reason.

The fraudulent financial policies of the Federal Reserve and its lackeys in the White House and Congress have literally bankrupted the country. Real unemployment is most likely over 20%. Taxes (along with costly fees, regulations, restrictions, penalties, mandates, etc.) at every level are going through the ceiling. America's jobs have been outsourced. Barack Obama continues G.W. Bush's irresponsibility, digging America deeper and deeper into foreign entanglements, at the cost of trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. The IRS continues to harass and harangue honest citizens, squeezing them like the proverbial turnip. And now, add the insanity of a global climate treaty being hammered out in Copenhagen, and a universal health care bill being rammed through Congress, and the outlook is even gloomier.

I feel very comfortable in saying that the usurpations of power, the encroachments upon liberty, and the arrogant tax-and-spend policies emanating from Washington, D.C., and Wall Street these days are far more egregious than what George Washington and the boys were enduring in 1775-76 at the hands of the British Crown. There is no doubt in my mind that if Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry, and Sam Adams were alive today, they would have given cause for the Goldman Sachs banksters to retreat to their bunkers years ago!

The fact is, we do need a revolution! But not a revolution of anarchy and pitchforks. (The history of France should be ample evidence of the futility of this strategy.) We need a revolution of the individual states: to reclaim their sovereignty and fight for the liberties of their sovereigns (We the People). That is exactly what our forefathers did in '76.

America's founding document (the Declaration of Independence) declares that our states are "free and independent." And so they are. We are not "one nation" with one all-powerful central government. We are a confederation of nation-states, united in a voluntary union, with each State reserving to itself the power and authority of self-determination, and ceding to the federal government limited, specifically delineated duties and limitations--limitations that have been totally ignored to the point that, for all intents and purposes, our once-great constitutional republic has been thoroughly expunged. Therefore, it is NOW time for the states to stand up to this meddlesome, every-growing tyranny that is known as Washington, D.C., and defend the rights and liberties of their citizens!

What Dr. Ed Vieira (an attorney with 4 earned degrees from Harvard, who has successfully argued cases before the US Supreme Court) wrote a few weeks ago should serve as a template for every State governor and legislature that truly cares about liberty. See Ed's column at:

http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin201.htm

As Vieira says, the states should resurrect their militias. Many--if not all--states have the legal authority for such entities in their constitutions. In some states they are called the State Guard. Some plainly use the word "militia." Whatever they are called, they need to be activated. And all that is necessary for this to be accomplished is the order of the governor. It's that simple!

And as Vieira said, states need to adopt an alternative currency--including, and most especially, gold and silver. In other words, they need to develop their own private economies, complete with their own banks and exchange mediums. They also need to reject the multinational agribusiness and develop their own in-State agricultural and energy businesses.

I would dare say that the first State that determines to follow Vieira's sagacious counsel (and rumblings of this have already begun in states such as Alaska, Oklahoma, Texas, Montana, New Hampshire, Indiana, Tennessee, South Carolina, etc.) would have so many liberty-loving patriots flock there that its economy would explode with prosperity--resulting in a domino effect of many other states following suit--and the revolution that this country so desperately needs would indeed take place. Furthermore, such a revolution would be constitutional, lawful, moral, and, yes, in compliance with the laws of Nature and of Nature's God.

In the meantime, is Barack Obama really worried about civil war? He might be. It is my observation that Washington politicians and bureaucrats are the most paranoid people on the planet. The problem is--as with most power-hungry Machiavellians--their paranoia often translates into more oppression and less liberty for the citizenry. And if this is true, it simply means that the states need to hurry up and do what needs to be done!
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Old 13-12-2009, 03:30 PM   #44
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'Before the end of the winter.' The last thing we want on the process to peace is a civil war. Americans should do everything they can through the system to stop martial law.

But, when someone is accused of being guilty, and they are - they react violently. So compare that to a company (like the Fed & such), they know they are guilty and the evidence shows they are reacting violently.
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Old 13-12-2009, 03:55 PM   #45
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Default It's just another distraction people ..

a big one, granted, but a distraction nonetheless. . to keep us off our spiritual path. The warlords are all working together, for the same side, don't be drawn into it.

WW3 is already here, it's an esoteric battle of negative against positive.

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Old 13-12-2009, 07:46 PM   #46
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a big one, granted, but a distraction nonetheless. . to keep us off our spiritual path. The warlords are all working together, for the same side, don't be drawn into it.

WW3 is already here, it's an esoteric battle of negative against positive.

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Mostly I agree with you. I don't think THEY think they are on the same side, but in fact, they are.
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Old 15-12-2009, 07:53 AM   #47
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Old 27-12-2009, 09:42 AM   #48
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A bizarre, anonymous and offensive picture gallery appeared in on the website of the London Telegraph newspaper that tells the story of a terrorist nuke attack...

Operation Blackjack Part 1 of 2



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Blackjack Part 4 "This is not simply entertainment" Hex Code!

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Old 27-12-2009, 12:34 PM   #49
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I have been waiting for the last 4 years for the so called attack on Iran by Israel its still has not happened.
I have also been waiting for the so called SHTF that hasn't come to if that did not happened in 2008 with the verge of the banking system about to collapse i don't think it will happen at all.
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Old 27-12-2009, 05:28 PM   #50
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I have been waiting for the last 4 years for the so called attack on Iran by Israel its still has not happened.
I have also been waiting for the so called SHTF that hasn't come to if that did not happened in 2008 with the verge of the banking system about to collapse i don't think it will happen at all.
why wait for such doom?
no family to protect so you dont care?

war shouldnt be waged on Iran. only countries going to war are ones that wont adopt rothchilds banking. COINCIDENCE?

take action to stop the evil before hand. or else your of no use to the positives on this planet.
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Old 29-12-2009, 09:07 AM   #51
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FLASHBACK - THE LIE OF THE CENTURY

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...hecentury.html

There is nothing new in a government lying to their people to start a war. Indeed because most people prefer living in peace to bloody and horrific death in war, any government that desires to initiate a war usually lies to their people to create the illusion that support for the war is the only possible choice they can make.

...........Please read on.
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THE SAME GOVERNMENT AND CORPORATE MEDIA SCREAMING ABOUT AL QAEDA RIGHT NOW ARE THE SAME ONES THAT LIED TO YOU ABOUT IRAQ'S NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON; TO TRICK YOU INTO ANOTHER WAR, INDEED LIKE HITLER, TO TRICK YOU INTO A WORLD WAR.
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I wonder if Russia and China would back Iran.
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Hmmmm, the WhatReallyHappened website seems to be "gagged"?

Check it out!!

http://whatreallyhappened.com/
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Old 30-12-2009, 08:33 AM   #54
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Yemen Terror Camps Attract 'Stream Of Britons'

Fears raised that country is becoming stronghold for new generation of al-Qaida-inspired fighters

Matthew Taylor, Richard Norton-Taylor and Sandra Laville guardian.co.uk, Monday 28 December 2009 21.45 GMT Article history


Abdulmutallab claims he trained in Yemen and al-Qaida operatives in the country supplied the device for his alleged terrorism plot. Photograph: US Marshals/EPA

A number of Britons have travelled to Yemen to train at secret terrorist camps, counter-terrorism officials revealed yesterday, raising fears that the country is becoming a stronghold for a new generation of al-Qaida-inspired fighters.

Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, whose failed attempt to blow up Northwest Airlines flight 253 to Detroit on Christmas Day is the focus of an urgent global investigation, told FBI agents he was trained in Yemen and that senior al-Qaida operatives in that country had supplied the explosive device used in the plot.

Last night senior UK counter-terrorism officials said that MI5 was aware of several British nationals and British residents who had trained at camps in Yemen's "ungoverned spaces" in the past year.

"There is a steady stream of people travelling to Yemen, and travel to Yemen is something that is of concern to us," said a UK security source.

Security officials in Yemen said yesterday that 29 al-Qaida suspects had been arrested in a crackdown on the terrorist group.

In a statement yesterday, Yemen's foreign ministry said Abdulmutallab was in Yemen from early August until early December, after receiving a visa to study Arabic in a school in Sana'a.

The statement said he had previously studied at the school, indicating it was not his first trip to Yemen. He was granted a Yemeni visa after the authorities were reassured that he had "several visas from a number of friendly countries", the statement said. It noted that Abdulmutallab had a valid visa for the United States, which he had visited in the past.

Last night, al-Qaida militants in the region posted a statement on the internet claiming responsibility for the failed bomb attempt, which it said was meant to avenge US attacks on the group in Yemen. The statement called for the killing of western embassy workers in the region, warning of "all-out war on the crusaders".

Hours later, Barack Obama vowed to pursue those behind the attempted bombing. "We will not rest until we find all who were involved and hold them accountable," the president said.

The focus on Abdulmutallab's connections to Yemen came as a row erupted in the US over the security failures that had allowed him to smuggle explosives through two international airports and on to a transatlantic flight.

Alan Johnson, the home secretary, confirmed that the 23-year-old had been on a UK "watch list" after being refused entry for a bogus course at a UK college in May. It also emerged that Abdulmutallab, who studied engineering at University College London between 2005 and 2008, was on a low level watch list in the US after his Nigerian family raised concerns that he had been radicalised by Islamist extremists.

Johnson said US authorities should have been informed that Abdulmutallab was on the UK list, but added he doubted there had been a "hiccup" in procedures.

UCL authorities said that Abdulmutallab had never given his tutors any cause for concern while at the university. Tutors were "deeply shocked" that Abdulmutallab, president of the college's Islamic society between 2006 and 2007, was accused of trying to blow up a transatlantic jet. He had been "well mannered, quietly spoken, polite and able", the UCL statement added.

The US homeland security secretary, Janet Napolitano, delivered a blunt assessment of the situation last night, agreeing with an interviewer who said that the country's security system had "failed miserably". She said: "What I would say is that our system did not work in this instance. No one is happy or satisfied with that. An extensive review is under way."

Abdulmutallab was overpowered as he tried to detonate explosives apparently sewn into his underwear as the flight came into land at Detroit on Christmas Day. Security officials said only a faulty detonator had stopped the bomb ripping the plane apart.

The failed attack prompted Obama to order two anti-terrorism reviews, and aviation officials in the US are attempting to close the loopholes that let Abdulmutallab bypass security.

Johnson warned that increased airport security in light of the bomb plot meant passengers should expect further delays at airport check-ins, adding that the UK government was considering the use of full body scanners.

"There is an issue of cost, and you always have to get this balance between ensuring that the security of our population, which is our primary concern, is balanced against people going about their normal daily business," he told the BBC. "But we intend to be at the cutting edge of all this technology and to ensure that we put it in place as quickly as possible."

Johnson said Abdulmutallab, who severed contact with his family after travelling to Yemen to study Islam, had been placed on a UK Borders Agency watch list because he had applied to a bogus college, not because he was considered to be a terrorist suspect.

Officials said that while Pakistan and Afghanistan remained the main focus for the UK's anti-terrorist activity, Britons flying to Yemen were increasingly been flagged up as a possible terror risk.
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Why would the real target be Pakistan? For their nukes?

What is the relationship between Pakistan and China?

What is the relationship between China and India?
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I wonder if Russia and China would back Iran.
You do a lot of "wondering" there.
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Why would the real target be Pakistan? For their nukes?

What is the relationship between Pakistan and China?

What is the relationship between China and India?
You continue on with the "wondering" bit.

Enough said about what you are.
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China May Build Middle East Naval Base

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Members of the Chinese navy honour guard marching during a welcoming ceremony Photo: GETTY In a sign of the growing confidence of the Chinese military, Admiral Yin Zhuo said that the country may set up a base in the Gulf of Aden in order to support missions against Somali pirates.

Since the end of last year, China has sent four flotillas to the Middle East in order to take part in anti-piracy operations together with US, European, Indian and Russian warships. The latest mission, which departed from China in October, involved two missile frigates.
Mr Yin said a permanent base in the region would help supply Chinese ships. "We are not saying we need our navy everywhere in order to fulfil our international commitments," he said, cautiously. "We are saying to fulfil our international commitments, we need to strengthen our supply capacity."

His words, which came just a few days after China rescued 25 sailors from Somali pirates, were posted in an interview on the Defence ministry website. China is reported to have paid a USD4 million (Pounds2.5 million) ransom to free the De Xin Hai, a coal carrier.

Mr Yin, who is a senior researcher at the navy's Equipment Research centre, pointed out that the first Chinese ships in the Gulf of Aden spent 124 days at sea without docking, a logistical challenge.

However, Chinese ships have since been permitted to dock at a French base.

"If China establishes a similar long-term supply base, I believe that the nations in the region and the other countries involved with the (anti-pirate) escorts would understand," he said. "I think a permanent, stable base would be good for our operations."

Yin added he was aware that Chinese naval ships in the waters near the Gulf have aroused suspicions, but believed other nations understood Beijing's intention was to counter pirates. As the world's largest importer of oil, China is believed to want to establish bases throughout the Indian Ocean and South China Sea to protect its tankers.
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