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Old 19-02-2010, 01:17 AM   #21
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just pulling the battery doesn't work on the newer models....they got wise to that one! another mini battery built in, that u got no hope of finding nver mind discoonecting....just enough to power the camera/ mike/ locator (if built wirless on laptops...)

Ah yeah forgot about the backup battery, thanks for the reminder.
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Old 19-02-2010, 01:59 AM   #22
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Companies are working on "telescreens," the pixels which make the picture will one day be used to sent pictures back. They already have screens that can recognise hand gestures, you won't simply be able to tape over the webcam if you want privacy. In some the pixels are being developed like a compound eye that can watch the viewer.
I believe that it is already theoretically possible for LCDs to not only display images, but also receive them—i.e., like a camera as big as your computer screen. Some LCDs already have the ability to draw power from light sources, which shows that they are indeed photosensitive.

For that matter, "bipolar" are also photosensitive.

Don't quote me on these; I don't want to unduly add to any hysteria here.

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Old 19-02-2010, 04:17 AM   #23
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What kind of idiots would come up with a plan where they spy on students at home and tell people about thier ACTIVITY and not expect a lawsuit a mile high!!

Whats scary is the students DID NOT KNOW THE CAMS WERE ON!! (I assume anyone smart w/computers would know)

Stupid idiots!
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Old 19-02-2010, 07:45 AM   #24
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What kind of idiots would come up with a plan where they spy on students at home and tell people about thier ACTIVITY and not expect a lawsuit a mile high!!

Whats scary is the students DID NOT KNOW THE CAMS WERE ON!! (I assume anyone smart w/computers would know)

Stupid idiots!
Stupid idiots are so dumb.
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Old 19-02-2010, 08:28 AM   #25
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Apple have a patent for cameras behind the picture, the reason claimed in the patent is that when a user uses a webcam, they are looking off-camera which is disconcerting.



The way it works is to have tiny cameras behind the LCD picture, and the LCD picture flashes on and off 1000s of times per second which is imperceivable, but the camera grabs frames during some of these gaps of darkness.

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Old 19-02-2010, 10:21 AM   #26
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Most students are spied on at some point. Its who they nick ideas from. It was happening to me since school. They like to find people with imagination and vision. Then totally monitor them and present things to them and see what solutions they dream up. Some of my school teachers were actively involved in it. So much has gone on.
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Old 19-02-2010, 11:06 AM   #27
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that crap was years ago, 10 or so, with a flash exploit.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showp...postcount=2177

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Old 19-02-2010, 11:12 AM   #28
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Old 19-02-2010, 11:14 AM   #29
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simple solution = put a piece of tape over your webcam when you're not using it, thats what i do.
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Old 19-02-2010, 12:54 PM   #30
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Old 19-02-2010, 02:08 PM   #31
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simple solution = put a piece of tape over your webcam when you're not using it, thats what i do.
I was thinking the same thing
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Old 19-02-2010, 02:26 PM   #32
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According to the filings in Blake J Robbins v Lower Merion School District (PA) et al, the laptops issued to high-school students in the well-heeled Philly suburb have webcams that can be covertly activated by the schools' administrators, who have used this facility to spy on students and even their families.The issue came to light when the Robbins's child was disciplined for "improper behavior in his home" and the Vice Principal used a photo taken by the webcam as evidence. The suit is a class action, brought on behalf of all students issued with these machines.

If true, these allegations are about as creepy as they come. I don't know about you, but I often have the laptop in the room while I'm getting dressed, having private discussions with my family, and so on. The idea that a school district would not only spy on its students' clickstreams and emails (bad enough), but also use these machines as AV bugs is purely horrifying.

Schools are in an absolute panic about kids divulging too much online, worried about pedos and marketers and embarrassing photos that will haunt you when you run for office or apply for a job in 10 years. They tell kids to treat their personal details as though they were precious.

But when schools take that personal information, indiscriminately invading privacy (and, of course, punishing students who use proxies and other privacy tools to avoid official surveillance), they send a much more powerful message: your privacy is worthless and you shouldn't try to protect it.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17...Boing+Boing%29
Thats nothing new ....Trojan Horse does the same....(if you got webcam. ofcourse)

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Old 19-02-2010, 02:37 PM   #33
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Thats nothing new ....Trojan Horse does the same....(if you got webcam. ofcourse)
Yeah, except for the fact that this is a school doing this to their students not a trojan virus.
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Old 19-02-2010, 02:51 PM   #34
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Yeah, except for the fact that this is a school doing this to their students not a trojan virus.
Scools are constantly logging , checking what yor doing. (ICT)

Once at school (behind laptop) only thing students are doing are , playing games, watching movies -giving network hard time.


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Old 19-02-2010, 04:20 PM   #35
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Scools are constantly logging , checking what yor doing. (ICT)

Once at school (behind laptop) only thing students are doing are , playing games, watching movies -giving network hard time.


--In going to school to study, not chat with friends located 10m from me.--
During school hours I don't think it is necessarily unreasonable for a school to track what a student is doing online. This could be happening outside of school...that is unacceptable.
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Old 19-02-2010, 04:25 PM   #36
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Sometimes due to lack of teachers is necessary.
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Old 19-02-2010, 04:29 PM   #37
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Sometimes due to lack of teachers is necessary.
I think we are on the same page here but just to make sure I will rephrase my point. A school should never be monitoring a students activities outside of school.
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Old 19-02-2010, 04:35 PM   #38
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I think we are on the same page here but just to make sure I will rephrase my point. A school should never be monitoring a students activities outside of school.
Ok , your right , but in some cases it would be appropriate.
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Ok , your right , but in some cases it would be appropriate.
Can you give examples of when an invasion of privacy would be appropriate?
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