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Old 03-12-2018, 03:18 PM   #21
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Old 03-12-2018, 04:07 PM   #23
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it has all ready happened waves the '' news '' just refuses to report it

I'm glad you understand what all the new arrivals are for though ( the EU army )

It isn't just Europe though my friend

They are tightening the noose in North America as well
this week david posted an article from the guardian where the writer was accusing people on what she called 'the far right' of having a 'pet project' of saying that europeans were being replaced

But the UN actually speaks about 'replacement migration':

Replacement Migration: Is It a Solution to Declining and Ageing Populations?

United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.
Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.
https://www.un.org/esa/population/pu.../migration.htm

So how can corporate socialists like her accuse regular citizens who have nothing to do with the 'far right' of having a 'pet project' claiming they are being replaced by migration when

a) its right there in the UN's frickin website
b) we can see mass migration occurring all around us!

Further to this we have seen this week the bringing in of the UN's migration compact which seeks to make it ILLEGAL as a 'hate crime' for people in the west to question the fake-leftists logic of MASS immigration

But the problem with their logic is multifaceted:

-if you take the brightest or most dynamic out of a country you leave that country brain drained
-if you move people to the west to combat 'climate change' then it will only make it worse because it is encouraging more people to live in an industrialised society
-if you move people to combat poverty you will fail because the move will only lower wages and see taxpayers overburdened by having to pay for dependent immigrants
-if you do it to fill work shortfalls it won't because automation is going to rob most jobs over the next decade anyway
-if you do it to boost 'diversity' it won't because it will destroy the authentic cultures of the host countries

Also it is going to destabilise the host countries by putting public services under massive pressure while creating tensions in society between different demographics

Grassroots corporate lefties are a new cult following a faith based belief system that is not built on facts. They even have articles of faith eg

-climate change is driven by manmade carbon dioxide
-unchecked mass immigration is always a good thing

there's a madness in the air and what is becoming increasingly clear is that many of the corporate lefties cannot be reasoned with. They have an agenda and they don't care about what is true or what isn't they just want to push their agenda through. They're zealots and it seems to me that many of them are motivated by hate having developed a race consciousness. When they accuse host populations of being 'racist' for not wanting to be replaced by migrants they are actually PROJECTING their own racism and hate that they feel towards the host population

The corporate elites of the EU and UN want to ban criticism of mass immigration:

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Old 03-12-2018, 05:59 PM   #24
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Netherlands… I don’t know what they say but they look READY…




Belgium… warming up…

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Old 03-12-2018, 11:02 PM   #25
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There has just been a session at the Assemblée Nationale where the defense ministry was asked for explanations on the police force’s strategy and logistics during the protests. You could notice from the questions asked that the very efficiency and capacity of the national police forces to manage such events were being questioned, and that they’re being paving the way to forwarding their agenda of a single European police to be created as well.

Suburbs are starting to move too, and I’m starting to think that all is being done to create such an uprising that calling in the UN Peacekeeping forces will at one point seem necessary. There have been countless injured and several deaths already, so as I said what the final toll within the population and physical damages to public or private properties until the authorities consider they got enough to justify something that no one cares about in the first place ?

Will they have their European army and world government, I don’t care !... Please folks, let’s quit panicking these poor elites or they’ll make a new disaster…


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Please folks, let’s quit panicking these poor elites or they’ll make a new disaster…
the problem is that the more the elites push through their agenda the more people can then see the agenda

then those people start to speak up and/or protest and this then sees the government become even more authoritarian and through becoming more authoritarian more and more people can then see that something is not right and the whole cycle begins anew

its a downward spiral...

there is a race on. The elites must create their technocratic gulag before enough people wake up to overthrow them but the tighter their grip becomes the more people then see what they are doing
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Old 03-12-2018, 11:42 PM   #27
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why do people need to see while they could think ? that's what elites do because they got free time for it...

most people I see around have no more inner life hence no more perspective on anything and maybe that's a problem too... they behave like cattle...
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Old 04-12-2018, 12:12 AM   #28
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why do people need to see while they could think ? that's what elites do because they got free time for it...

most people I see around have no more inner life hence no more perspective on anything and maybe that's a problem too... they behave like cattle...
Yep ,, sheepies ,,

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this week david posted an article from the guardian where the writer was accusing people on what she called 'the far right' of having a 'pet project' of saying that europeans were being replaced

But the UN actually speaks about 'replacement migration':

Replacement Migration: Is It a Solution to Declining and Ageing Populations?

United Nations projections indicate that over the next 50 years, the populations of virtually all countries of Europe as well as Japan will face population decline and population ageing. The new challenges of declining and ageing populations will require comprehensive reassessments of many established policies and programmes, including those relating to international migration.
Focusing on these two striking and critical population trends, the report considers replacement migration for eight low-fertility countries (France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Russian Federation, United Kingdom and United States) and two regions (Europe and the European Union). Replacement migration refers to the international migration that a country would need to offset population decline and population ageing resulting from low fertility and mortality rates.
https://www.un.org/esa/population/pu.../migration.htm

So how can corporate socialists like her accuse regular citizens who have nothing to do with the 'far right' of having a 'pet project' claiming they are being replaced by migration when

a) its right there in the UN's frickin website
b) we can see mass migration occurring all around us!

Further to this we have seen this week the bringing in of the UN's migration compact which seeks to make it ILLEGAL as a 'hate crime' for people in the west to question the fake-leftists logic of MASS immigration

But the problem with their logic is multifaceted:

-if you take the brightest or most dynamic out of a country you leave that country brain drained
-if you move people to the west to combat 'climate change' then it will only make it worse because it is encouraging more people to live in an industrialised society
-if you move people to combat poverty you will fail because the move will only lower wages and see taxpayers overburdened by having to pay for dependent immigrants
-if you do it to fill work shortfalls it won't because automation is going to rob most jobs over the next decade anyway
-if you do it to boost 'diversity' it won't because it will destroy the authentic cultures of the host countries

Also it is going to destabilise the host countries by putting public services under massive pressure while creating tensions in society between different demographics

Grassroots corporate lefties are a new cult following a faith based belief system that is not built on facts. They even have articles of faith eg

-climate change is driven by manmade carbon dioxide
-unchecked mass immigration is always a good thing

there's a madness in the air and what is becoming increasingly clear is that many of the corporate lefties cannot be reasoned with. They have an agenda and they don't care about what is true or what isn't they just want to push their agenda through. They're zealots and it seems to me that many of them are motivated by hate having developed a race consciousness. When they accuse host populations of being 'racist' for not wanting to be replaced by migrants they are actually PROJECTING their own racism and hate that they feel towards the host population

The corporate elites of the EU and UN want to ban criticism of mass immigration:

I've just recently said it elsewhere if the nations of Europe can afford to bring in millions of new arrivals from the third world then can afford to repatriate all the people from Europe who were sent to live around the world before this

Millions of people of European descent live around the world and we could all go back if the point was lack of population they could give us incentives to move back and so on

There would be less worry about loosing culture and less worry about civil unrest and less worry about population numbers

But they wont do that because thats not the point

The entities behind this latest movement don't want a successful set of independent European nations populated by indigenous Europeans

they want the place in ruins because they have the solution lined up called World Government

the EU is just a micro version of the NWO , a regional branch of it

you know all this , but do others ?
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People get or feel abused so they get abusive, spending most their time messing up their own life and that of their fellowmen’s. It’s a permanent contamination…

Children get abused when forced to eat meat for the first time, and they soon turn that violence against themselves or their fellow.

Then there is corruption through education : competition, greed and lie all induce and lead to violent reactions and behaviors. But I think the most common and unnoticed form of violence is humiliation because this one gets inflicted regardless of gender, age or social class on a daily basis by people on anyone over whom they hold the least upper-hand or privilege.

It’s not difficult to put yourself in your next’s shoes just to get how one may feel or think, it just takes a few seconds but most people won’t bother doing it. They just react to what they see and what’s happening now wouldn’t have been possible without youtube or facebook were you can SEE. Most won’t bother checking or learning anything from a book or a newspaper so their reaction isn’t a rational but an instinctive one, because they saw just enough to justify themselves and won’t check further…

That’s where you see the evil media can do and what ‘freedom of speech’ may lead to… There is only ONE truth out there, only ONE way to do or settle things properly using mere common sense and logic. Any kinds of theory, opinion or viewpoint lead to bias then disagreement, argument and conflict. But everyone must earn a living, right ?
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we are all being abused by exploitative elites

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Children get abused when forced to eat meat for the first time, and they soon turn that violence against themselves or their fellow.
meat may very well be one of the primary drivers of brain development that led humans to their current level of intelligence

we certainly wouldn't have survived the cold winters without fats and proteins gained from meat

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Then there is corruption through education : competition, greed and lie all induce and lead to violent reactions and behaviors.
marxist critical theory is factionalising the public and then turning those factions on each other instead of on the elites

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But I think the most common and unnoticed form of violence is humiliation because this one gets inflicted regardless of gender, age or social class on a daily basis by people on anyone over whom they hold the least upper-hand or privilege.
the privileged people are the top 1%
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so I'm wrong about everything am I not ?

I really dislike that multi-quoting method, wave, I never use it but just about this...

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brain development that led humans to their current level of intelligence
the four last words pose problem... do you consider that men/people act intelligently or have been acting so for more than one century until now ?

If meat consumption got men able to achieve what's been done during all that time then yes, we should really quit eating meat because it appears that despite the technical progress and access to 'knowledge', we were much more mentally efficient and responsive, more 'human' 200 years ago when musicians could compose whole symphonies with some sheets of paper and a plume... most today's ones hardly get to make 6' short pieces with a music editing and writing software... Beethoven couldn't check instantly how what he's composing would sound, but what's in our computers he'd have in his brain...

it's way off topic but as to winters I get through them without any meat and I'm not alone...
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the four last words pose problem... do you consider that men/people act intelligently or have been acting so for more than one century until now ?

If meat consumption got men able to achieve what's been done during all that time then yes, we should really quit eating meat because it appears that despite the technical progress and access to 'knowledge', we were much more mentally efficient and responsive, more 'human' 200 years ago when musicians could compose whole symphonies with some sheets of paper and a plume... most today's ones hardly get to make 6' short pieces with a music editing and writing software... Beethoven couldn't check instantly how what he's composing would sound, but what's in our computers he'd have in his brain...

it's way off topic but as to winters I get through them without any meat and I'm not alone...
if your ancestors had not eaten meat they would not have survived the northern hemisphere winters

you may find it possible to survive now in the age of central heating, kingspan insulation and slate roofs but your ancestors did not have those things

according to science our brains went through some rapid developments in the past. Ethno-botanist terence mckenna believed this was due to the consumption of magic mushrooms but even mans interaction with the mushroom that grew from cow shit may have evolved out of animal husbandry which invariably involved the eating of meat and the drinking of animal blood

if you look at how veganism is suddenly being pushed everywhere while politicians now debate taxes on meat we can begin to see an agenda from above here

an argument is being made that meat production is boosting climate change but cow farming is being squeezed out by biofuel crops which receive more beneficial subsidisation

however if we consider that the elites seem intent on undermining the publics health at all levels of being then should we not also consider this war on meat from that perspective too?

Is it not possible that the elites who also block out the suns rays using geoengineering thereby denying many people the vitamin D they need for optimal health may also wish to deny western populations another valuable source of vitamins: meat?

Why do you think sports people like a good steak? Its because it gives them pep; it puts lead in their pencil
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France is running out of fuel... time for Macron to resign.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20181204/fue...it-the-hardest
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Mike Tyson is a vegetarian (vegan?), wave, and many other renowned athletes are either one...

Anyway it's off topic but beware, you bring everything back to elites and conspiracies like you're starting to get really paranoid...

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France is running out of fuel... time for Macron to resign.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20181204/fue...it-the-hardest
well I'm in France so I can see whatever happens here... please wait 'till I check...

yes, I see they just lifted the blockades so that should get fixed soon....

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Mike Tyson is a vegetarian (vegan?), wave, and many other renowned athletes are either one...
well i found this on wikipedia about that:

''In March 2011, Tyson appeared on The Ellen DeGeneres Show to discuss his new Animal Planet reality series, Taking on Tyson. In the interview with DeGeneres, Tyson discussed some of the ways he had improved his life in the past two years, including sober living and a vegan diet.[191] However, in August 2013 he admitted publicly that he had lied about his sobriety and was on the verge of death from alcoholism.[192] In December 2013, during an interview with Fox News, Tyson talked about his progress with sobriety and how being in the company of good people has made him want to be a better and more humble person. Tyson also talked about religion and said that he is very grateful to be a Muslim and that he needs Allah.[193] He also revealed that he is no longer vegan after four years.''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tyson

so here is mike tyson on meat, a world beating champion:



and here is mike tyson as an alcoholic vegan on the ellen degenerate show:



which one worries the elites more do you think?

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no i just don't have my head buried up my own schving schving
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sorry I can't get your idioms any longer but it seems to me you're being falling into paranoia, sign being that the more I try to connect to you for dialog and the more you hide back behind conspiracy theories or even media BS right here... I recall you that 'vegan' is different from 'vegetarian' despite what the media let you think and which you give into...

Anyway you made me think of something because if a meat diet induces overacting and reacting hence physical violence, it may all the same imply over-thinking and then moral and political violence, which would get meat-eating responsible for social turmoil as a whole resulting in war, crime, terrorism or uprising…

it will not be long again until we both have an argument and it would waste that thread of mine, so if you want me to cut if off then keep on and I will... as I already said I got better to do and being posting here somehow costs me, so really I neither care about that...
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sorry I can't get your idioms any longer but it seems to me you're being falling into paranoia, sign being that the more I try to connect to you for dialog and the more you hide back behind conspiracy theories or even media BS right here... I recall you that 'vegan' is different from 'vegetarian' despite what the media let you think and which you give into...

Anyway you made me think of something because if a meat diet induces overacting and reacting hence physical violence, it may all the same imply over-thinking and then moral and political violence, which would get meat-eating responsible for social turmoil as a whole resulting in war, crime, terrorism or uprising…

it will not be long again until we both have an argument and it would waste that thread of mine, so if you want me to cut if off then keep on and I will... as I already said I got better to do and being posting here somehow costs me, so really I neither care about that...
i think the elites want us all to be girly soyboys that they can walk all over

they are working to achieve this in many ways

its just possible and i'm only putting this out there as a possiblity that the removal of meat from the western diet may very well be another way of making you into a weak-willed little slave with no back bone at all
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Schving or Schving Schving refers to sphincter, to be precise: the outer anal sphincter which is under voluntary control.

Coined by Max Keiser as a way to express, in television broadcast, the dangers of inviting violation of the sphincter by way of insertion of sharp or pointy objects, usually repeatedly, by aggrieved parties subjected to involuntary control over their lives and finances.


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some people are sick... one more comedy actor become a social 'avenger' Carlin-style, yet a trader and probably richer than anyone of us might ever get, all he wanted being his tiny share of the cake...

problem with the Internet is that you can't see those at the other end of the line, taking the risk of unknowingly addressing weirdos, complete outcasts or even worse... a dangerous place actually...

is it what this forum is or are we all here just good people or idiots sometimes pretending to mean business ?
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