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Old 05-04-2011, 11:10 PM   #21
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First wisdom must be qualifiable. obviously if it offers harmony and compatibility as well as uplifting knowledge then it can be quantified.
Interestingly I think the more something promotes life the more harmonious and compatible it probably is. Life tends to be co-operative and interdependent for example the many symbiotic relationships of tropical rainforests. Call it Biocentric Didacticism and it's exactly what you are looking for!
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Old 16-04-2011, 04:29 AM   #22
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To make changing the world with wisdom less daunting let's start with the easiest changes with the most benefit. Abolishing all laws against Cannabis sativa is the most obvious to me. That would support life in countless ways. We have improved the world already by simply saying "okay."

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Old 16-04-2011, 09:29 PM   #23
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The more scars you have the wiser you are.
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Old 16-04-2011, 09:48 PM   #24
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The more scars you have the wiser you are.
I would say there are too many scars and little wisdom these days so I can't agree with that. From one other perspective than your own it sounds masochistic and untrue.
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I would say there are too many scars and little wisdom these days so I can't agree with that. From one other perspective than your own it sounds masochistic and untrue.
I'm not talking physical scars.
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I'm not talking physical scars.
I'm not either necessarily.
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Old 16-04-2011, 09:55 PM   #27
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Well in my experience the people who have experienced the most pain and trauma and been deepest into darkness are the wiser folk.. this is my point.
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Old 16-04-2011, 10:15 PM   #28
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Well in my experience the people who have experienced the most pain and trauma and been deepest into darkness are the wiser folk.. this is my point.
This is an interesting point. I think trauma forces inner turmoil and reflection and may drive creativity and have other effects. Of course some are wiser because of it and some aren't.

When I speak of quantifying wisdom I mean more that we need a method of calculating the cost/benefit to life of a given action and sharing the data so everyone who cares knows what to do.
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Old 16-04-2011, 10:18 PM   #29
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The more scars you have the wiser you are.
scars dont make wisdom, understanding does.
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Old 16-04-2011, 10:19 PM   #30
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Well in my experience the people who have experienced the most pain and trauma and been deepest into darkness are the wiser folk.. this is my point.
In my experience in the damaged family I am in wisdom is that last thing people focus on.
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Old 16-04-2011, 10:27 PM   #31
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scars dont make wisdom, understanding does.
Correct understanding goes a long way. I want the best understanding of everything available to everyone - universal access to true knowledge. A lot of the nonsense would fade away and it would be much clearer how to live.
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Correct understanding goes a long way. I want the best understanding of everything available to everyone - universal access to true knowledge. A lot of the nonsense would fade away and it would be much clearer how to live.
I wish you could teach people the way of understanding, but you cant. they either posess it or find it or they dont. understanding takes a lot of work. It must be tempered with selflessness and compassion and societal equality and equity , perhaps a few things not mentioned, Like introspection, before it can become true wisdom.

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I wish you could teach people the way of understanding, but you cant. they either posess it or find it or they dont. understanding takes a lot of work. It must be tempered with selflessness and compassion and societal equality and equity , perhaps a few things not mentioned, Like introspection, before it can become true wisdom.
But think of how much true knowledge has been suppressed. The world is in a state of extreme ignorance thanks to the historical deeds of those who seek control. From my perspective it sure doesn't look accidental either.

With correct understanding a healthy human being is formidable indeed. I think our nature has been twisted. We've even been culled of special abilities through witch burnings and the destruction of indigenous peoples and their knowledge.
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But think of how much true knowledge has been suppressed. The world is in a state of extreme ignorance thanks to the historical deeds of those who seek control. From my perspective it sure doesn't look accidental either.

With correct understanding a healthy human being is formidable indeed. I think our nature has been twisted. We've even been culled of special abilities through witch burnings and the destruction of indigenous peoples and their knowledge.
armies of nations cannot defeat one man who understands truth. they can kill his vessal but they couldnt hope to defeat him ever.

Most people align themselves as destroyers of wisdom and truth, but not even that matters. Only the highest order of consciousness matters. That is not material in as much as we experience the idea of matter.

whn you pick up the petty triflings of the world you let go of the consciousness you are. Let those willing to carry enormous loads of stones and lead , carry them, but we must discipline ourselves to letting such things lie in the weight and falsity they were extracted of.

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I think there comes a time when no one can imagine carrying out the work of oppressors though. That's my vision. It's cosmic consciousness for every human being because who wouldn't want it if they new what it was?
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I think there comes a time when no one can imagine carrying out the work of oppressors though. That's my vision. It's cosmic consciousness for every human being because who wouldn't want it if they new what it was?
there are no oppressors but the self.
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there are no oppressors but the self.
What I said still applies then!
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"Kindness is more important than wisdom, and the recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom."
-- Theodore Isaac Rubin

just thought I'd throw that in the mix of food for thought
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"Kindness is more important than wisdom, and the recognition of this is the beginning of wisdom."
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just thought I'd throw that in the mix of food for thought
Much kindness is wasted for want of the wisdom to use it.
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Much kindness is wasted for want of the wisdom to use it.
live for the now... be who you are at that moment..

saying i'm always 'kind'.... just not everyones kind.
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