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Old 03-12-2011, 02:24 AM   #21
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I have read and seen more than you can Imagine..you nazi apologists cannot pull the wool over my eyes...

They should not have been there in the first place...and why give people striped clothing...DISGUSTING.



biorn probably thinks thats the nice german soldiers trying to pick of a flea they saw using small arms fire ,
the prisoner apparently is seen in a picture shaking hands and joking with the gaurd who is holding up the offending flea

its the camps nit nurse if you like

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Old 03-12-2011, 03:42 AM   #22
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biorn probably thinks thats the nice german soldiers trying to pick of a flea they saw using small arms fire ,
the prisoner apparently is seen in a picture shaking hands and joking with the gaurd who is holding up the offending flea

its the camps nit nurse if you like
I had a conversation with my daughter quite a while ago about the World Wars etc etc...she did not even know who Adolph hitler was... so much for education.

History is mythology recreated by each generation....
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Old 03-12-2011, 03:49 AM   #23
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Zigeunermischlinge ("Gypsy half-breeds") used in an anthropological study by German psychologist Eva Justin. They were sent to the "Gypsy camp" and murdered when the camp was liquidated...

"Mischlinge" half-Romani children at St. Josefspflege orphanage in Mulfingen, Germany, were used in Eva Justin's racial studies for her PhD dissertation. 39 of them (20 boys and 19 girls) were shipped to Auschwitz extermination camp on May 9, 1944. Of the 39 children, two survived Auschwitz; all the others were killed, most on August 3, 1944...

As Auschwitz decree, the decree Heinrich Himmler from the 16th December 1942 referred to by which the deportation of the inside of the German Empire surviving Roma was ordered to it - unlike previous individual or collective deportations - to destroy the entire minority. The decree itself is not delivered. He is following him in the execution of policy (the "express letter") of the Reich Criminal Police Office on (RKPA) 29 January 1943, cited as a reference:

"By order of the Reichsführer SS, 16:12:42 - Tgb No. I 2652/42 Ad. / RF / V. - Hybrids are gypsies, Rom Gypsies and non- German blood relatives gypsy clans of Balkan origins to specific guidelines to select and instruct in an action of a few weeks in a concentration camp. This group of people is in the following abbreviated as 'gypsy people'. The briefing takes place regardless of the degree of mixed blood family, in the concentration camp ( Gypsy camp ) Auschwitz. "

The quick letter was entitled "Instruction of Gypsy half-breeds, Rome and Balkan Gypsies Gypsies to concentration camps."

Similar deportation orders as to the express letter of 29 Were issued on 26 January 1943 and January 28, 1943 for the " Danube and Alpenreichsgaue "and on 29 March 1943 for the District of Bialystok , the Alsace , Lorraine , Belgium , Luxembourg and the Netherlands . Compared to the Burgenland and the East Prussian Roma pointed to the RKPA similar statements of 26 May and 1 October 1941 and the 6 July, 1942.

A precursor of the decree was Himmler Thierack Agreement of 17 September, 1942. It read:

Anti-social elements from the prison, Jews, Gypsies, Russians, Ukrainians (or should) to the Reichsführer SS for extermination through work are delivered.



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Old 03-12-2011, 11:18 AM   #24
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Gypsies and other "poor, weird and useless" minority peoples have always been despised and mistreated everywhere. Same thing here in Norway with the Sami just a short while ago.




But did you know that the German Nazis had very friendly relations with the Tibetans?



History is so much stranger than people would think.
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:11 PM   #25
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I agree - those guys shouldn't have been in the camps. And such camps shouldn't have existed. I'm sure even the Nazis would agree with me about that.

Striped pajamas? Well, I don't think that ever hurt anybody. If you have a camp you need to be able to tell the difference between the inmates and the staff.

What about shaved heads? A necessity. If you wanna keep people healthy. Lice was a big problem.

What needs to be understood is that the Nazis could have just killed them all had they wanted to. But they didn't. They gave them clean, warm clothes, hygiene, good food and heated barracks. And far better care than most people in the world today get when they are put in a prison or concentration camp.
the nazi keept the able bodied and skilled prisoners alive to use as slave labor. they executed all that were of no use.

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As a matter of fact - many regular working class people went to camps like Auschwitz to get paid work. Some of those we see in the photos are in fact people who went there voluntarily. Their conditions were not very different from the conditions of the Jews and others who were taken there by force.
this is actually true in the begining many went to camps willingly, thinking that they were being relocated and would get work.this appealed to some because of antisemitism in germany. they were told they were going to newly built jewish communitys, they never realised that they would not be alowed to leave again. your premise that the the nazis were caring for these jewish people, looks over the fact that they were forced in to camps /ghettos.striped of all their possesions kept prisoner and used as slave labor. this can not be presented any other way.
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Old 03-12-2011, 02:20 PM   #26
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the nazi keept the able bodied and skilled prisoners alive to use as slave labor. they executed all that were of no use.
Fantasy.





Total fantasy having absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with reality. The nonsense you have in your head, I mean. Not these pictures from the real world.



Eli Weasel spent about half of the "Holocaust" in sickbed in German care. Nobody gassed him:



Such examples are virtually endless. Heard about Anne Frank? Wasn't gassed. Spent months in sickbed in German care before she finally died of typhus. The Germans did everything they could to save her.



Why have a hospital in a "death camp"? The hospital is the building across freom the "gas chamber" (morgue/crematorium):



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this is actually true in the begining many went to camps willingly, thinking that they were being relocated and would get work.this appealed to some because of antisemitism in germany. they were told they were going to newly built jewish communitys, they never realised that they would not be alowed to leave again. your premise that the the nazis were caring for these jewish people, looks over the fact that they were forced in to camps /ghettos.striped of all their possesions kept prisoner and used as slave labor. this can not be presented any other way.
I wasn't talking about Jews. You see, there were a whole lot of other people in the camps than your favorites. I was talking about regular German and Polish men who needed work and got work in the camps.

You have been brainwashed to think that the camps were just about the Jews. They were not. And most of the camps, like Auschwitz, existed before Nazi Germany came into being. But you've never studied the matter, so how could you know anything about this. Want to see pictures of the concentration camp money? More photos from the daily life in the camps? Extracts from witness testimonies that actually say conditions in the camps were quite good and that people were treated well? There's no shortage of this.

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Fantasy.





Total fantasy having absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with reality. The nonsense you have in your head, I mean. Not these pictures from the real world.



Eli Weasel spent about half of the "Holocaust" in sickbed in German care. Nobody gassed him:



Such examples are virtually endless. Heard about Anne Frank? Wasn't gassed. Spent months in sickbed in German care before she finally died of typhus. The Germans did everything they could to save her.



Why have a hospital in a "death camp"? The hospital is the building across freom the "gas chamber" (morgue/crematorium):





I wasn't talking about Jews. You see, there were a whole lot of other people in the camps than your favorites. I was talking about regular German and Polish men who needed work and got work in the camps.

You have been brainwashed to think that the camps were just about the Jews. They were not. And most of the camps, like Auschwitz, existed before Nazi Germany came into being. But you've never studied the matter, so how could you know anything about this. Want to see pictures of the concentration camp money? More photos from the daily life in the camps? Extracts from witness testimonies that actually say conditions in the camps were quite good and that people were treated well? There's no shortage of this.
There are museums in poland that well document the nazis crimes, authentic Nazi documents and photography as well as film, ever heard of the warsaw and łódź ghettos or the warsaw uprising? I am very much aware they were other peoples exterminated by the Nazi, just clearing up your warped point that people went willingly to camps.
I will use your logic tho prove these are photos inside camps.
Also some camps were "glamed" up by the nazis when they let red cross inspectors in
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Bergen-Belsen (or Belsen) was a Nazi concentration camp in Lower Saxony in northwestern Germany, southwest of the town of Bergen near Celle... Originally established as the prisoner of war camp Stalag XI-C, in 1943 it became a concentration camp on the orders of Heinrich Himmler, where Jewish hostages were held with the intention of exchanging them for German prisoners of war held overseas... Later still the name was applied to the displaced persons camp established nearby, but it is most commonly associated with the concentration camp it became as conditions deteriorated between 1943-1945... During this time an estimated 50,000 Russian prisoners of war and a further 50,000 inmates died there,up to 35,000 of them dying of typhus in the first few months of 1945

A British Army bulldozer pushes bodies into a mass grave at Belsen. 19 April 1945...


Bergen-Belsen (or Belsen) was a Nazi concentration camp in Lower Saxony in northwestern Germany, southwest of the town of Bergen near Celle. Originally established as the prisoner of war camp Stalag XI-C, in 1943 it became a concentration camp on the orders of Heinrich Himmler, where Jewish hostages were held with the intention of exchanging them for German prisoners of war held overseas.... Later still the name was applied to the displaced persons camp established nearby, but it is most commonly associated with the concentration camp it became as conditions deteriorated between 1943-1945. During this time an estimated 50,000 Russian prisoners of war and a further 50,000 inmates died there, up to 35,000 of them dying of typhus in the first few months of 1945...

The camp was liberated on April 15, 1945 by the British 11th Armoured Division.60,000 prisoners were found inside, most of them seriously ill, and another 13,000 corpses lay around the camp unburied... The scenes that greeted British troops were described by the BBC's Richard Dimbleby, who accompanied them...

...Here over an acre of ground lay dead and dying people. You could not see which was which... The living lay with their heads against the corpses and around them moved the awful, ghostly procession of emaciated, aimless people, with nothing to do and with no hope of life, unable to move out of your way, unable to look at the terrible sights around them ... Babies had been born here, tiny wizened things that could not live ... A mother, driven mad, screamed at a British sentry to give her milk for her child, and thrust the tiny mite into his arms, then ran off, crying terribly. He opened the bundle and found the baby had been dead for days.

"This day at Belsen was the most horrible of my life...


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Idiots.
You are completely right. According to the mainstream teachings all Germans were/are idiots and/or mad dogs and Übermensch geniuses at the same time.

This is quite disturbing and creates a major faith problem because many people are unable to believe in Hollywood religion any longer.

I think the masters of the universe must start to create a new, reliable Nazi image asap.

"Pink Panther Nazi Terrorists" aka Brown Army Faction of course was a good idea and completely in line with the RAF-fiction, but by no means convincing, not even to the man on the street.

What will the cosumers buy further on?
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You are completely right. According to the mainstream teachings all Germans were/are idiots and/or mad dogs and Übermensch geniuses at the same time.
The German resistance (Widerstand) was the opposition by individuals and groups in Germany to Adolf Hitler or the National Socialist regime between 1933 and 1945. Some of these engaged in active plans to remove Adolf Hitler from power and overthrow his regime. Their plans culminated in the unsuccessful 20th July plot to assassinate Hitler in 1944.

Memorial plaque to resistance members and wreath at the Bendlerblock, Berlin...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...dler-Block.jpg

Approximately 77,000 German citizens were killed for one or another form of resistance by Special Courts, courts martial, and the civil justice system.

The resistance in Germany included German citizens of non-German ethnicity, like the members of Polish minority who formed resistance groups like Olimp.

Almost every community in Germany had members taken away to concentration camps. As early as 1935 there were jingles warning: "Dear Lord God, keep me quiet, so that I don't end up in Dachau." (It almost rhymes in German: Lieber Herr Gott mach mich stumm / Daß ich nicht nach Dachau komm.). "Dachau" refers to the Dachau concentration camp. This is a parody of a common German children's prayer, "Lieber Gott mach mich fromm, daß ich in den Himmel komm."


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According to the mainstream teachings all Germans were/are idiots and/or mad dogs and Übermensch geniuses at the same time.
P.S. Except German Halal Muslims, Democratic Stalinists, Hyper Tolerant Democrats Against Free Speech, Extremely Bigot Christians, Atheist Masonic Zionists, Pedophile Kosher Greens, Ultra Tolerant Liberals For Globalism, Communist Socialists, and all members of any democratic religion/sect of course.
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Anarchists and Pirates are doubleplusgood! (almost forgot to mention the latest creation, PLEASE excuse me, Julian Assange and friends!)
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Gypsies and other "poor, weird and useless" minority peoples have always been despised and mistreated everywhere. Same thing here in Norway with the Sami just a short while ago.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_people

But did you know that the German Nazis had very friendly relations with the Tibetans?



History is so much stranger than people would think.
hey, hitler called russians animal human-human animals.

thats is really all that needs to be said.

oh and towards the end of the war he said it looks like the slavic race is superior to the germans, who dissapointed him totally.

dont you see the irony in that.

the anzi regime was insane, cowardly and every single one shouldve been killed.
every single one from the party deserved execution imo.they asked for total war, they got it and they should have been dealt with much worse than they were.

total war, you got it, total surrender, you got it in the ass.

and now please stfu or go and take up arms if you want a reprise.
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The Rosenstrasse protest was a nonviolent protest in Rosenstraße ("Rose street") in Berlin in February and March 1943, carried out by the non-Jewish ("Aryan") wives and relatives of Jewish men who had been arrested for deportation. The protests escalated until the men were released. It was a significant instance of opposition to the events of the Holocaust...Just after the German defeat in the Battle of Stalingrad, Gestapo had arrested the last of the Jews in Berlin during the Fabrikaktion. Around 1,800 Jewish men, almost all of them married to non-Jewish women (others being the so-called Geltungsjuden), were separated from the other 6,000 of the arrested, and housed temporarily at Rosenstraße 2–4, a welfare office for the Jewish community located in Central Berlin.

The Fabrikaktion...

The Fabrikaktion (Factory Action) is the term for the roundup of the last Jews to be deported starting 27 February 1943. Most of these remaining Jews were working Berlin plants or they were working for the Jewish welfare organisation. The term was coined by the victims after World War II, the Gestapo called the plan Großaktion Juden (Major Action (on) Jews) and in the communications with the factories it was named Evakuierungsaktion (Evacuation Action). While the plan was not restricted to Berlin it became later most notable for the ensuing Rosenstrasse protest in Berlin.

In September 1942 there were about 75,800 Jewish left for labour in the arms industry. Hitler asked on 22 September 1942 to replace them with other people sent in for forced labour.


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hey, hitler called russians animal human-human animals.

thats is really all that needs to be said.

oh and towards the end of the war he said it looks like the slavic race is superior to the germans, who dissapointed him totally.

dont you see the irony in that.

the anzi regime was insane, cowardly and every single one shouldve been killed.
every single one from the party deserved execution imo.they asked for total war, they got it and they should have been dealt with much worse than they were.

total war, you got it, total surrender, you got it in the ass.

and now please stfu or go and take up arms if you want a reprise.
Yes, Hitler was tripleunplusgood of course.

Thanks for reminding us.
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About 4000 of the persons were able to escape - Goebbels wrote in his diary on 2 March 1943...

Dr. Joseph Goebbels, head of Germany's Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda. His masterful use of propaganda for Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP made him a prototype of the modern spin doctor in public conscience.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ls_spricht.jpg

Sadly it occurred that the better off circles, especially intellectuals, do not understand our Jew politics and in part they take side for the Jews. In consequence our action was betrayed so that a large number of Jews could escape. However we will catch them nonetheless.

This matches with stories of survivors telling that they had been warned by their colleagues and foremen - in one case even a police officer - shortly before the action took place. On the other hand most of the fugitives were captured - the Gestapo used search service and the help of Jewish "Greifer" collaborators. It is estimated that only 1,500 Jews were able to hide away until the end of the war.


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Ordensburg Vogelsang is a former national socialist estate placed at the former military training area in the national park Eifel in North Rhine-Westphalia. The landmarked and completely preserved estate was used by the National Socialists between 1936 and 1939 as an educational centre for future leaders. Since 1 January 2006 the area is open to visitors. It is one of the largest architectural relics of National Socialism. The gross area of the landmarked buildings is 50,000 m².

Planning and construction since 1933...

In a 1933 speech in Bernau near Berlin, Adolf Hitler demanded that new schools be built for the children of the leaders of his national socialist German labour party (NSDAP). The task was given to Robert Ley, the "Reichsorganisationsleiter" (literally: Reich Organisational Leader) of the NSDAP, who undertook the construction and operation of four educational camps (NS-Ordensburgen):

1939-1945

At the outbreak of the war in September 1939, the Junkers departed and the Castle of Vogelsang was handed over to the German army (Deutsche Wehrmacht), which used it twice for billeting troops: in 1940 during the western campaign, and in December 1944 during the Ardennes offensive.

The foundation walls constructed for the House of Knowledge (Haus des Wissens) were used for the Van Dooren barrack block, and the adjacent basement, originally intended for an auditorium, became a cinema...

The Last Nazis : Children of the Master Race...


During the interim, Vogelsang hosted a couple of classes of the so-called Adolf-Hitler-Schools. In 1944, a military fitness camp for 15- and 16-year-old members of the Hitler Youth (Hitler-Jugend) was held there. Allied air raids destroyed some of the buildings, including the east wing and the gymnasium.

Nazi Germany under Adolf Hitler was well known for eugenics programs which attempted to maintain a "pure" German race through a series of programs that ran under the banner of racial hygiene. Among other activities, the Nazis performed extensive experimentation on live human beings to test their genetic theories, ranging from simple measurement of physical characteristics to the research for Otmar von Verschuer carried out by Karin Magnussen using "human material" gathered by Josef Mengele on twins and others at Auschwitz death camp... During the 1930s and 1940s, the Nazi regime forcibly sterilized hundreds of thousands of people whom they viewed as mentally and physically unfit, an estimated 400,000 between 1934 and 1937. The scale of the Nazi program prompted one American eugenics advocate to seek an expansion of their program, with one complaining that "the Germans are beating us at our own game"

Nazi angel of death Josef Mengele 'created twin town in Brazil'

One in five pregnancies in the small Brazilian town have resulted in twins - most of them blond haired and blue eyed,the first twins were born in 1963.




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Bjornvan, you need to ask your self why the nazis imprisoned children, when you can honestly answer this to your self, you will have the answers you look for
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why the nazis imprisoned children
What is so unique about "imprisoning children"?

Wanna see some pics of children/teens raped and murdered by your lovely Allies, btw? Maybe a child or two blown to bits by your charming friends the Jews?

Norway puts "children" (teenagers, young adults) in prison too. So does virtually every other country.

You are brainwashed to think that Nazi Germany is the only regime that has ever existed, it seems.
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