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Old 27-11-2014, 08:49 PM   #1
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Sweeping new anti-terror powers introduced following damning report into security failings which led to Lee Rigby murder.



Sweeping new anti-terror laws were published by the Government today - less than 24 hours after a damning Parliamentary report into the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby by Islamist fanatics.
A new Counter-terrorism and Security Bill, containing a range of draconian powers including orders to block suspected British jihadists from returning to the UK, was introduced to Parliament.
It comes after an official report into the May 2013 murder of Fusilier Rigby revealed a series of missed opportunities by the security services to prevent the attack.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3KJ8jucMk


I am surprised that this is not a top issue on this forum. There is no doubt that the fascist terrorist government will ram these powers through on the current fear campaign and the fake war on terrorism, to remove even more of our right and civil liberties.

I am concerned about the amount of data retention and what they want isp's and the likes of social media to do. This is one step away from a full totalitarianism and dictatorship.

When will the people stand up, do something and say no? When it's to late.
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Old 27-11-2014, 11:21 PM   #2
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Seems BS news like pleb gate is more interesting that more unlawful, Big brother, mass surveillance of the population. (Shakes head).



Well don’t all coming running folks, to the David icke forum in future and complain when you all sit back and just except mass surveillance under a tone of lies, war and fear.

The laws, changes they are trying to force through, will basically stop freedom of speech and you will all likely be classed as terrorists, or a terrorist threat for posting on the David icke forum in future.



You ISP logs may look something like this to the fascist state.

http://www.davidicke.com/Today's/news/ Government are terrorists!
http://www.davidicke.com/Exposing Child Abuse/ Government covered up pedos for years

Then they can see what you said.

Next thing, knock knock, The police are at the door wanting to question you as your must be a terrorist to them for posting your thoughts about a terrorists run government.




Other link about this worrying powers grab spying ect.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/11/26/sur...ce-scapegoats/

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/...-of-the-press/






Here is the unlawful statute if you want to have a look. Maybe someone who is up on this statute nonsense can understand it better.

Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill 2014-15
http://services.parliament.uk/bills/...dsecurity.html


Here is the bit about isp's internet ete. They will likely add to that.
http://www.publications.parliament.u....htm#pt3-l1g17


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Those who sacrifice freedom for security, deserve neither. (Benjamin Franklin)
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Old 27-11-2014, 11:32 PM   #3
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I am surprised that this is not a top issue on this forum. (
You're not the only one. We lost our freedom of speech yesterday, their definition of extremism means saying the truth, having an opinion on the official story....now if you have one, they have given themselves the power to jail you or worse...and nobody noticed!!!!

At the same time, people will fawn over the soldiers in WW1 & the poppies who gave them freedom, yet when it is being taken away i.e. right now, the same population says nothing!! Infact they don't even notice!!!
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Old 27-11-2014, 11:56 PM   #4
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I hear you.

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Old 28-11-2014, 12:22 AM   #5
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It was said many years ago that the illuminati one world govt had already won...

they're just tidying up the edges here.

nothing to see here.... move along please......


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Old 28-11-2014, 11:59 AM   #6
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Aye this is serious all right. This really is the Dystopian 1984 realised.
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Old 28-11-2014, 12:16 PM   #7
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When will the people stand up, do something and say no? When it's to late.
never, but you can still keep hoping if you want.
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Old 28-11-2014, 12:44 PM   #8
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there will be/is a breaking point, these laws tell me that "they" are scared of those who see the BS, there are lots of us, all in different professions and locations, including many who are influential, the gov is right to use all the terror fear, because the gov are terrified that their corrupt system is being exposed, i (as well as many) am fighting against their system therefore in the eyes of the gov they will be correct in the assumption that i am a terrorist, this explains reasons why they have been pushing so hard with fear porn, vaccines and new laws etc. they are trying to get a grip of things, they will not get the total obedience that they strive for, never!

message for "them" "fuck you! you will never get my obedience even if it means you have to kill me, i am not alone"
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Old 28-11-2014, 08:09 PM   #9
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You're not the only one. We lost our freedom of speech yesterday, their definition of extremism means saying the truth, having an opinion on the official story....now if you have one, they have given themselves the power to jail you or worse...and nobody noticed!!!!

At the same time, people will fawn over the soldiers in WW1 & the poppies who gave them freedom, yet when it is being taken away i.e. right now, the same population says nothing!! Infact they don't even notice!!!


Yep agree cosmo, many people say and have told me that as well, that soldiers died for our freedoms and even our right to vote. We all know that is BS.

Well where are the defenders of our freedoms now? Our civil liberties are still being taken from us.




In today's news and TPTB at it again. Someone being arrested for apparently encouraging terrorism on Twitter. They don't even say what she was meant to of said, done wrong. More lies from a terrorist government.

This is what will happen even more and it does not matter what you say, they will say it just like what they have done in that article.


Woman, 22, charged with encouraging terrorism on Twitter
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A 22-year-old woman was last night charged with encouraging terrorism on Twitter.
Alaa Abdullah Esayed, from Kennington, south London, used the social network to post messages that would 'induce' others to 'commit acts of terrorism', the Metropolitan Police said.
She is also accused of using the site to share photographs, videos and links to terrorist speeches and propaganda
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3KOnvvHgh





Also this, from the dirty Labour piece of filth, ex home sectary Jack Straw. Demonising Edward snowden, who is a hero for speaking out and more crap, to help the terrorist government remove our rights.


Facebook's arrogance and Snowden's hypocrisy put us all at risk: From an ex-Home Secretary, a devastating attack on the internet giants and the traitor beloved by the chattering class

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...#ixzz3KOp4Z4Il





Edit and see these top comments I noticed. Agree.

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tombmummy 2, Rivver Ridge, USA, 17 hours ago
I feel more threatened by my government than anything Snowden or Facebook have done.
And one of the top replies.

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edmacd, Dundee, United Kingdom, 11 hours ago
Yep, the governments are the ones who are hiding their dirty secrets. The USA & UK are out for total mind control and the sad thing is, look how many are taken in by their lies, their deceptions. These governments think they are unaccountable, beyond reproach. Times are changing many are waking up to what is actually what. We know their claims to justify wars are just lies. We know they willingly send gullible men and women to death to fight their fight. It's time to end this madness.








Look at the vindictive jack straw here and that Muppet idiot editor, from the sun news paper following Jack straw round like a sheep.

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Old 28-11-2014, 08:46 PM   #10
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there will be/is a breaking point, these laws tell me that "they" are scared of those who see the BS, there are lots of us, all in different professions and locations, including many who are influential, the gov is right to use all the terror fear, because the gov are terrified that their corrupt system is being exposed, i (as well as many) am fighting against their system therefore in the eyes of the gov they will be correct in the assumption that i am a terrorist, this explains reasons why they have been pushing so hard with fear porn, vaccines and new laws etc. they are trying to get a grip of things, they will not get the total obedience that they strive for, never!

message for "them" "fuck you! you will never get my obedience even if it means you have to kill me, i am not alone"
Amen and thank god for this post
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Old 28-11-2014, 10:40 PM   #11
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The readers comments in the mainstream papers are very encouraging. People know what this is about.
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Old 30-11-2014, 12:17 PM   #12
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Sweeping new anti-terror powers introduced following damning report into security failings which led to Lee Rigby murder.



Sweeping new anti-terror laws were published by the Government today - less than 24 hours after a damning Parliamentary report into the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby by Islamist fanatics.
A new Counter-terrorism and Security Bill, containing a range of draconian powers including orders to block suspected British jihadists from returning to the UK, was introduced to Parliament.
It comes after an official report into the May 2013 murder of Fusilier Rigby revealed a series of missed opportunities by the security services to prevent the attack.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz3KJ8jucMk


I am surprised that this is not a top issue on this forum. There is no doubt that the fascist terrorist government will ram these powers through on the current fear campaign and the fake war on terrorism, to remove even more of our right and civil liberties.

I am concerned about the amount of data retention and what they want isp's and the likes of social media to do. This is one step away from a full totalitarianism and dictatorship.

When will the people stand up, do something and say no? When it's to late.
Bumped.

I cannot agree more. THIS is the issue of the week - if not the month, year DECADE!!! for all DIFers...come on where are you???
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Old 30-11-2014, 08:50 PM   #13
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Thanks nick and for your support. Shame that when this abuse of our rights happen, nobody stands up and says anything but only the select few.

I'm afraid many members on the David icke forum, suffer from apathy.



See this blog today, what look like it's from a conservative.


PETER HITCHENS: Theresa's right, we DO face a dire new threat - from people like her

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...-like-her.html

He slags off the so called left a bit but seems to agree what is happening, is wrong.

A quote from that blog.


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Now, because the drug-crazed killer Michael Adebowale made an unhinged threat on Facebook, we are asked to support the secret-police surveillance of the internet.
On the same logic, we might as well allow MI5 to open all our letters, listen to all our telephone calls and bug our bedrooms, and for this creepy snooping to be allowed in evidence in court.
I don’t see how this differs from the powers given to the East German Stasi.
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Old 30-11-2014, 08:57 PM   #14
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Protesting has never been so easy. I don't even need to get off my arse anymore to do something to cause the plod to want to arrest me. When 10,000,000 of us all do it on the internet together, then they'll have a potential prison overpopulation problem.
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My :luv: and voice scream non compliance & non conformity As do millions of other people.

Non compliance and non conformity is an ever increasing wave thats going to crash down on ''The powers that think they are'' ''HARD''

Nothing will stop that -Not even law -

Let me ask you guys a question.
If you had to fight for your life and freedom-Would you break laws to do it?
Fuck yeah you would.
so untill that day comes remain peacefull
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I break the law to satisfy my recreational desires; I'm sure as hell gonna break them to defend my freedom, however illusionary it may be.
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I am surprised that this is not a top issue on this forum.
Yes... well done for actually starting a tread which has something to do with what we should be discussing!

But what can you say? They're tightening the police state.... it's what they do.

Now, lets get back to discussing whether dinosaurs were real
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Old 01-12-2014, 04:51 AM   #18
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I like this quote

‘We can now say that Inspire has been read by those involved in at least seven out of the ten attacks planned within the UK since its first issue [in 2010].

The usual bullshit statistics. cant be verified or validated but fuck 70% of planned?

its all about control of the internet silly gotta thwart them plans

Police to be handed powers to force internet firms to hand over information

they already do have total monitoring systems says Snowdon.
So what the fuck is this about really?

making the system they already have in place 'Legal'?

way too late to make it an issue

Again the New World Order is already in place...
The fascists tactics just need to be legalised so they dont get embarrassed.

No news here.... Move along please...... go back to your regular programming
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Well, if you stop voting con men into office because they promise you free shit then maybe this would not be happening. A population that thinks that its the govt's job to take care of everyone gets exactly what they asked for when that same govt comes calling for their pound of flesh.

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Well, if you stop voting con men into office because they promise you free shit then maybe this would not be happening. A population that thinks that its the govt's job to take care of everyone gets exactly what they asked for when that same govt comes calling for their pound of flesh.

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that so fails to understand the mind set of slavery and how the system works

con men are preselected and then stamped with voter approval giving the illusion of choice. matters not who wins.

its a millennia old game of bread and circus's for the slaves.

Dumbocracy has entrenched it so the "have nots" (who are manufactured) are the majority to self sustain the social just us (socialism) or social justice to keep the ruling elite in power.
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