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Old 17-08-2011, 05:08 PM   #41
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Here is a big question I hope can be answered....

how in the world does Martin Gman know this is true and what proof does he have????

I posted a topic on this awhile back so this whole subject intrigues my interest more than anything as it relates to the eternity of existence! Huge!
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Old 17-08-2011, 06:10 PM   #42
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I'm highly suspicious of the "higher self" theory as well, because this just sounds like another glorified way of conning the victims of institutionalized injustice into blaming themselves instead of their victimizers.

If taken to its logical conclusion, you find torture victims saying: "My higher self must have wanted me to experience this, so it's really I who am responsible for the unspeakable pain I feel, not my uniformed tormentor."

Isn't that just the sort of thing the Hitlers of the world want their victims to think?
I don't think that an awakened or advanced soul would ever be tortured. We all have been hideously tortured in our past/simultaneous incarnations IMHO, i.e before we awakened, be it ancient Rome, Spain etc etc

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Old 17-08-2011, 06:16 PM   #43
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I don't think that an awakened or advanced soul would ever be tortured.
Ah, so if a child is tortured in a satanic ritual, he has only himself to blame, since his soul presumably isn't "avanced" enough yet. Is that the idea?

Is there anyone in this entire forum besides myself who isn't a blame-the-victim firster?
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Old 17-08-2011, 06:53 PM   #44
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Ah, so if a child is tortured in a satanic ritual, he has only himself to blame, since his soul presumably isn't "avanced" enough yet. Is that the idea?

Is there anyone in this entire forum besides myself who isn't a blame-the-victim firster?
A child's soul isn't usually awakened but it is changing now.
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Old 18-08-2011, 03:32 AM   #45
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Here is a big question I hope can be answered....

how in the world does Martin Gman know this is true and what proof does he have????

I posted a topic on this awhile back so this whole subject intrigues my interest more than anything as it relates to the eternity of existence! Huge!
why is my question being ignored? I'd like it answered please!!!!!!!
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Old 18-08-2011, 07:06 PM   #46
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why is my question being ignored?
Because it's a question only Martin Gman himself can answer.

If you're not a mind reader, what makes you think anyone else is?
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Old 18-08-2011, 09:39 PM   #47
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Because it's a question only Martin Gman himself can answer.

If you're not a mind reader, what makes you think anyone else is?
ok, but Martin Gman hasn't posted in quite awhile correct so how can I contact him to ask him?
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Old 24-08-2011, 10:39 PM   #48
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ok, but Martin Gman hasn't posted in quite awhile correct so how can I contact him to ask him?
If I knew the answer to that question, I would have already contacted him myself.
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Old 26-08-2011, 06:07 AM   #49
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As we are eternal beings, we will eventually find our way the "right" way. If you are ready to go beyond this "game," you will. No "light" will stop you. If you aren't ready, then maybe you will be sucked in and have to go through some other obstacles until you eventually find your way.
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Old 26-08-2011, 06:22 AM   #50
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Imho, the "White Light we see when we die", is the Mind observing (it)Self, ie, neurons...as it "returns" to its energetic origins...
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Old 21-01-2012, 10:36 AM   #51
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http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL431FA
Here is the full History of Mankind, the White Light Construct video is included, interesting how you got so close to the real Story of the White Light as it was indeed a Matrix Construct for enslavement and the placement of Anu within the Matrix.
David Icke is also right in that we are born into enslavement, but it begins before birth and had been going on for eons of years. There is a twist to the story, which is that there is only One of us Here, and so whatever construct the realization that must come about is Self as the origin, Creation, Created, Creator, we keep stopping at Creation Created and this is why we cannot get out, like with any informatic system we are either the user and can't change anything or we step up to Administrator's role and become the system and as the system change, as above so below, as inside so outside. Enjoy

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Old 21-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #52
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The White Light is a Matrix Construct, it was designed as the placement of Anu himself within the System and yes it was a tool for the enslavement of Humankind. The story had been going on for millions of years, the Sould is another construct, it was used to store the 'personality' traits until download would occurr int the Akashik records at the end of each lifetime.
You can find the History of Mankind Here
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL431FA
One thing that is yet missing from David Icke explanations is that we are the Origin, and until we step up to Creator's role we cannot get out of here, as like in any informatic system if you are the users you have restrictions, while when you become the administrator your restrictions are lifted.
There is only One of us Here, fragmented in 7 billion pieces, Creation, Created, Creators, Self as the Source, Self responsibility is the only way out, follow the links, there are over 16 hours of videos that tell the whole story, for support you will find the links at the end of each video.
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Old 21-01-2012, 04:51 PM   #53
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The White Light is a Matrix Construct, it was designed as the placement of Anu himself within the System and yes it was a tool for the enslavement of Humankind. The story had been going on for millions of years, the Sould is another construct, it was used to store the 'personality' traits until download would occurr int the Akashik records at the end of each lifetime.
You can find the History of Mankind Here
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL431FA
One thing that is yet missing from David Icke explanations is that we are the Origin, and until we step up to Creator's role we cannot get out of here, as like in any informatic system if you are the users you have restrictions, while when you become the administrator your restrictions are lifted.
There is only One of us Here, fragmented in 7 billion pieces, Creation, Created, Creators, Self as the Source, Self responsibility is the only way out, follow the links, there are over 16 hours of videos that tell the whole story, for support you will find the links at the end of each video.

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Old 22-01-2012, 07:48 AM   #54
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Great oriiginal post and great thread.

http://www.thenewearth.org/Roswell.pdf - This document supports the theory that humans are deceived into going into a light and then made to forget their memories through torturous means before being reincarnated again. Obviously there are 'knwo it alls' on Earth that do not forget their previous lives and are of a higher intelligence than a human that has to learn everything again.

It is a fantastic read no matter what your beliefs may be on Roswell. I would really recommend that people read this document. It may seem 'fake' at the beginning but if you get all the way through to the end it is worth it/ I skipped all of the author's words and simply read the parts the 'alien' was supposed to have said.

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Old 22-01-2012, 11:15 AM   #55
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Great oriiginal post and great thread.

http://www.thenewearth.org/Roswell.pdf - This document supports the theory that humans are deceived into going into a light and then made to forget their memories through torturous means before being reincarnated again. Obviously there are 'knwo it alls' on Earth that do not forget their previous lives and are of a higher intelligence than a human that has to learn everything again.

It is a fantastic read no matter what your beliefs may be on Roswell. I would really recommend that people read this document. It may seem 'fake' at the beginning but if you get all the way through to the end it is worth it/ I skipped all of the author's words and simply read the parts the 'alien' was supposed to have said.
Sorry, but apparently its a hoax: http://camelotforum.com/index.php?op...=40&Itemid=164 posts nr. 7873 and 7875
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Old 22-01-2012, 11:24 AM   #56
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It doesn't matter.

For example - Even David Icke may be all knowing and all powerful - and what he gives us is just a fragment of what he knows or what he thinks we can understand.

The same goes for the link I posted. Although it may be fake - it also has some truths.

And whatever you believe - do you think ANY FUCKIN human could write that shit? OF COURSE NOT - so it was written by an alien - even if they look like you and me - so why disregard what's in the document? It could be very true.

Please all - read it.
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:01 AM   #57
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I have a friend who is a bit obsessed. He seems to believe that not only is the material world an illusion which I know is not exactly within the realm of crazy around here. But he takes it too far and believes that, for example, I'm in his head and not real. So one of those types.

On the other hand, he has done a lot of research about reincarnation and escaping the cycle or whatever. He said something interesting about 'the light' people see when they have a NDE (or assumming when they die).. not to walk toward it. Apparently there is either a fiery pit or a black hole of some sort which creates an intense fear and slowly tries to pull people in, so their reaction is to walk toward the light (and I'm guessing in a NDE they wake up because it 'isn't their time').

Thing is, he's not the only source I've heard that from. I got the impression from an alchemy book of something similar. I've also heard about 'black holes' and 'hell/satan' being experienced in OOBEs and NDEs. I think the bible even says something about not being afraid of the fire (the opposite of the light). This could all be nonsense, but just open your mind. What if
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Old 08-02-2012, 01:28 AM   #58
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I personally feel it's common sense to not enter the light and that you should first take a look around and see what's going on. I've always viewed people who are willing to blindly head straight into the light without a second thought as deserving of the re-incarnation they will probably end up getting.
Seriously, if you're dead, what's the hurry to go into the light? take a little while and get your bearings.
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Old 09-02-2012, 11:51 AM   #59
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Monroe said to look for a gold light instead, either to the side or up, look around for it. The gold light takes you to 'the garden', you are free there I suppose.

The real question is WHY are they allowed to set up a white light trap? Who's allowing it?
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:32 AM   #60
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Sorry, guys.... I thought that the white light during a NDE or OOBE was just the brain flooding with in an effort to lessen the psychological blow of the concept of "this is the end" for the mind.... ? Also check out a quick search on clinical studies carried out into DMT and its effects. One test subject IIRC (can't remember which study it was now) said that she was a devout christian and whole-heartedly believed in everything conventional and led a good, christian life, experienced a half-hour trip with ETs who took her aboard their ship and explained the mysteries of the universe, despite her being a complete non-believer of anything ET.

But I could be wrong - please do correct me if this isn't so.
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