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Old 10-10-2007, 11:17 AM   #21
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Jesus is partly Actaurus and the son of King Arthur. I thought Icke's early books made that clear.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:19 AM   #22
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Jesus smoked herb.

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Old 10-10-2007, 11:21 AM   #23
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Jesus was an echo that possessed a man and got him killed. That was the purpose. to kill the echo off.

Diana was possessed of an echo too.

Screech! bang.

End of echo.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:22 AM   #24
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21Now after these events Paul determined in the [Holy] Spirit that he would travel through Macedonia and Achaia (most of Greece) and go to Jerusalem, saying, After I have been there, I must visit Rome also.

22And having sent two of his assistants, Timothy and Erastus, into Macedonia, he himself stayed on in [the province of] Asia for a while.

23But as time went on, there arose no little disturbance concerning the Way [of the Lord].

24For a man named Demetrius, a silversmith, who made silver shrines of [the goddess] Artemis [h][Diana], brought no small income to his craftsmen. Silver Bromide: the chemical in photographs. Shrines= images= photos.

25These he called together, along with the workmen of similar trades, and said, Men, you are acquainted with the facts and understand that from this business we derive our wealth and livelihood.

26Now you notice and hear that not only at Ephesus but almost all over [the province of] Asia this Paul has persuaded and induced people to believe his teaching and has alienated a considerable company of them, saying that gods that are made with human hands are not really gods at all.

27Now there is danger not merely that this trade of ours may be discredited, but also that the temple of the great goddess Artemis may come into disrepute and count for nothing, and that her glorious magnificence may be degraded and fall into contempt--she whom all [the province of Asia] and the wide world worship.

28As they listened to this, they were filled with rage and they continued to shout, Great is Artemis of the Ephesians!

29Then the city was filled with confusion; and they rushed together into the amphitheater, dragging along with them Gaius and Aristarchus, Macedonians who were fellow travelers with Paul.

30Paul wished to go in among the crowd, but the disciples would not permit him to do it.

31Even some of the Asiarchs (political or religious officials in Asia) who were his friends also sent to him and warned him not to risk venturing into the theater.

32Now some shouted one thing and some another, for the gathering was in a tumult and most of them did not know why they had come together.

33Some of the crowd called upon Alexander [to speak], since the Jews had pushed and urged him forward. And Alexander motioned with his hand, wishing to make a defense and [planning] to apologize to the people.

34But as soon as they saw him and recognized that he was a Jew, a shout went up from them as the voice of one man, as for about two hours they cried, Great is Artemis of the Ephesians!

35And when the town clerk had calmed the crowd down, he said, Men of Ephesus, what man is there who does not know that the city of the Ephesians is guardian of the temple of the great Artemis and of the sacred stone [image of her] that fell from the sky?

36Seeing then that these things cannot be denied, you ought to be quiet (keep yourselves in check) and do nothing rashly.

37For you have brought these men here, who are [guilty of] neither temple robberies nor blasphemous speech about our goddess.

38Now then, if Demetrius and his fellow tradesmen who are with him have a grievance against anyone, the courts are open and proconsuls are [available]; let them bring charges against one another [legally].

39But if you require anything further about this or about other matters, it must be decided and cleared up in the regular assembly.

40For we are in danger of being called to render an account and of being accused of rioting because of [this commotion] today, there being no reason that we can offer to justify this disorder.

41And when he had said these things, he dismissed the assembly.
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Saint Paul wanted them to stop making shrines to Artemis (diana). Henri Paul's job was to prevent photos being taken of Diana.

The crowd of shrine makers mirrors the crowd of paparazzi.

In killing Diana in the tunnel Saint Paul has forever prevented them making any more shrines of Diana (artemis).

Diana was the echo of the original Diana. The event of killing her off is the echo.

Maybe it won't stop the echo though.
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Um, yeah! Whatever mate.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:26 AM   #26
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saying I'm weird?

Jesus is an echo of the shutting down of the earth's magical energies.

And our fall into the shopping centre that we now live in.

The soul of Mordred cries out!

The soul of Acturus is on the move again.

THE KING HAS AWOKEN.

And he wants to go shopping.
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Old 10-10-2007, 11:40 AM   #27
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See http://www.truthbeknown.com/

Who was Jesus? Fingerprints of the Christ-D.M.Murdock
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saying I'm weird?

Jesus is an echo of the shutting down of the earth's magical energies.

And our fall into the shopping centre that we now live in.

The soul of Mordred cries out!

The soul of Acturus is on the move again.

THE KING HAS AWOKEN.

And he wants to go shopping.

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albie, i am with you on this, add this to the arthur/michael thread please bro.

the kings need a horse(car) wife(guenivere) and excalibur (spirit/compassion)
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THE PISCEAN AVATAR: THE JESUS OF ASTROLOGY
(page 4 of 12)

by Marcia Montenegro, former professional astrologer

JESUS AS THE AVATAR OF PISCES

Since Jesus is considered a higher spiritual being, an Avatar, by many astrologers, he embodies the highest aspects of Pisces: universal love, compassion, sacrifice, intuition, servanthood, martyrdom, and spirituality. Jesus represents the birth of non-ego (Pisces) from ego (Aries).

Correlations are made between Jesus and the sign of Pisces. Pisces, meaning fish, is a water sign. There is much water and fish symbology in the Bible stories about Jesus, such as Jesus calling fishermen as disciples, being on the sea several times, calming the storm at sea, helping the disciples catch fish, performing miracles in feeding people with fish, walking on water, his baptism in water, and his talk with Nicodemus about being born again by “water and spirit.”35

Oken says that Jesus’ walking on water symbolized that man must rise above “his emotions, fears, and superstitions [the water] in order to be master of himself and thus worthy enough to be a true servant of the God-force.”36 This walk on the water is seen by New Ager Redfield in his book as symbolizing Jesus’ spiritual evolution to such a state that his vibrations were high enough to make Jesus less material and light enough to walk on the water.37

Oken points out that Friday, the day of Venus, is the day for eating fish. Venus in astrology is exalted in Neptune, that is, Neptune brings out the best qualities of Venus, such as universal love. It is asserted that this is what Christ was teaching, and the correlation is made between fish on Friday and Venus in Neptune to further show Jesus’ connection with Pisces.38

JESUS OF THE NEW AGE
The astrological Jesus is still a New Age Jesus, or, in more contemporary terms, the Jesus of the new spirituality. Jesus is the man who realized Christ Consciousness, the innate divinity in all men. In a book based on the Edgar Cayce’s channeled readings, Christ Consciousness is described as an awareness each of us has, which can be “awakened” by our will, “of the soul’s oneness with God.”39 Paramahansa Yogananda, the Hindu guru who came to America and whose book, Autobiography of a Yogi, inspired many Westerners to follow Hindu-based teachings, defines Christ Consciousness as “the universal consciousness, oneness with God, manifested by Jesus, Krishna, and other avatars,” and is the realization of “God immanent in all creation.”40 Unity’s The Metaphysical Bible Dictionary expresses it more directly: “Christ is the divine-idea of man....Each of us has within him the Christ, just as Jesus had......The cosmic man...is the Christ....we are not persons, but factors in the cosmic mind. Reveal yourself to yourself by affirming ‘I am the Christ, son of the living God’...”41 In one New Age bestseller, the author states that the greatest teaching of Christ was that we all have everlasting life, brotherhood in God, and that we have whatever we request.42

The return of Jesus should be viewed as perhaps “the reception of the Christ Consciousness in an individual.”43 When writing as an astrologer about Christ and Pisces related to the movie, “The Last Temptation of Christ,” I suggested that this film may have represented the second coming of Christ through a film. I stated in the article that “Humanity has been on the cross...nailed to its own narrow vision, unwilling to sacrifice ego for the resurrection of divinity. Discovering the Christ within frees us to experience that divine nature; what Christ did physically, we must do metaphysically.”44

Contained within the Piscean Avatar is the New Age Christ as the one who awakens Christ Consciousness within. This Avatar also is a man, Jesus, who became the Christ. As astrologer Oken puts it:

“Let us make it absolutely clear that when we use the world ‘Christ,’ we do not necessarily mean Jesus. The Christ is the final step in the evolution of Man. It is a level of consciousness in which the individual has completely unified his Self with the Godhead. In this respect Buddha was a Christ as was Krishna as was Jesus.”45

As in most New Age thinking, Jesus becomes the Christ through attaining the Christ Consciousness, the awareness of the divine Self. Jesus and the Christ are separate because anyone who achieves this spiritual awareness of the inner Christ can become the Christ, or as pop singer Jewel puts it, “We all will be Christed when we hear ourselves say/ We are that to which we pray.”46
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Jesus' Astrological Charts

according to Don Jacobs
For your consideration....

A contemporary astrologer, the late Don “Moby Dick” Jacobs who was also a Methodist minister and Bible scholar has worked out the date and time of Jesus’ birth by combining historical, Biblical and astro*logical information. His conclusion is that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, Judea on March 1, 7 BC (Julian) at 1:30AM.

This birth chart was calculated by Astro Numeric Service using a special “deep time” program. It is perhaps one of the most powerful possible with a six planet stellium in Pisces with five oppositions to Pluto and five trines to Neptune. This makes Jesus a super Pisces which correlates with the fact that for the first 300 years of the Christian era, the symbol of Christianity was not a cross, but a fish, the symbol of Pisces.

A stellium in Pisces in the third house is an indication of extreme focus, genius and brilliancy in the area of spiritual matters with strong emphasis on compassion and communication. The oppositions to Pluto indicate the ability to transform others with compulsion which may be why he was crucified. The trines to Neptune indicate great kindness, highly developed psychic ability and miraculous healing powers. Sagittarius rising signifies a love of freedom and spiritual truth, and the ability to teach.

Don Jacobs suggests those interested in giving birth to the Christ Consciousness within themselves may find meditation on the birth chart helpful.

The Astrological Birth Chart of Jesus The Christ,
based on March 1, 7 B.C., 1:30AM, Bethlehem, Judea

is kalki/shiva/machine man the last avatar to come to help us in the tradition of yashuah, krishna, buddha, the avatar of the kaliyuga, the last age before peace.
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I Thought you believed in the Bible?
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:59 AM   #33
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how bout the real Jesus being the spirit of the Sun, which we too are but have completely forgotten?

just a thought.
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a real yashuah/yeshuah existed, jesus is the english translation of the hebrew name yashuah, the english name of jesus comes from the greek equivalent .

you tend to forget its rome/romans who brought germany/england/france christianity. learn the history of europe, roman empire.

there are no j's in the hebrew alphabet, and i think yashuah was a hebrew, who spoke aramhic lol so maybe he invented the letter when he was at his naming ceremony, just to keep you english people happy.lol

they use y instead of j. eg yahweh they translate to jahweh, yashuah to joshuah/jesus.

the jesus you speak of is the sol invictus/mithras clone, rome created by using the real yashuah and mixing with their mystery school symbolism, eg the sun of god = the son of god, all going back to egypt, the god amen-ra ra/solar worship/death cult. why do finish every prayer with amen? who are you praying to?

this is why people lose faith they catch onto the elites corruption and throw it all out. they spot the elite add ons, and then rather than painstakingly seperate fact from fiction, in one clean swoop throw it all out. then they hark on about, i am free, i am awakened, i spotted the false rome creation, look how smart i am.

when they should learn to seperate the myths/symbolism they added on and find the real historical person, yashuah. yashuah was spirtual teacher, a guru, a rebel, a freedom fighter/"terrorist", he fought against the occupiers/romans, the corrupt clergy.

if he lived now, he would fight for palestine, as thats where he lived, and they are his people. where is bethelem, nazareth, jerusalem its in palestine. so all these fuckwits who support zionism, with their we are christian bullshit, are merely the murderers of yashuah's people. they pretend to know him, but he knows them not.

this is why yashuah lived and jesus never. jesus is romes creation based on the teacher yahsuah who they killed, in partnership with jewish clergy. they then added their mithras, sol invictus, osiris, solar myth theology onto him, and created jesus.

so when people say yahsuah never existed, they are wrong, he did, and was the real "jesus" . why do they suppress his human nature, his message, his essenes/dead sea scrolls/nazarites. he had a community in the qumrum, as he had to move with his people away from the cities, the masses, the corrupt clergy, the romans/occuppiers

in basic terms, they killed this teacher/rebel, then about 300 years later/council of nicea, its the first passage of this thread. they used him, as the main part of their new religion for empire, to have an all encompassing, all inclusive religion to strengthen a fading empire. they cleverly added their elite/luciferic religion, eg mystery school, onto him, to create the jesus we know now. its a trojan horse.

so yashuah lived, taught, opposed corruption, the elite, the establishment and religous authorities he detested. so they as a cartel, joined together, paid judas and got arrested. trumped up his charges, and crucified him. so in the end, the elite, the people, being the sell outs they are/were, killed him. thats the truth. thats why its called the tyranny of the majority, as most are domesticated animals, slavishly following the elite.

thats why any leader now would not bother helping the people, as they only sell you out, and help the elite. he would best figuring this life out and graduating out of here, lol

see anyone who is ignporant hates yahsuah, and follows the elite. they might be new age, but what the fuck did yahsuah speak about, he spoke about spirit, mediatation, compassion, universal source/father, he spoke about everyone having the same potential, everyone being the children of the father, not just him.

the very stuff this counter culture wannabe new age talks about what he did/taught. and yet they talk bad about a fake jesus, not knowing that the very things he spoke about they are doing.

what you read in non organised religion, the spirit, meditation, the equality of all, unity, compassion, maya/illusion, is what he taught.
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The original Hebrew or Jewish Name of the professing Jewish Messiah, who was accepted as such by a certain section (some 3000 souls) of Israel, at and after His Appearance in Israel, some 2000 years ago. To them He was known as YAHU'SHUAH (abbreviated: Y'SHUAH, also pronounced YEHOSHUA or YESHUA). In time, over the first few centuries after Messiah, His Name was gradually changed to "Je-Zeus Khristos" by the pagan masses who converted and joined the originally Jewish Messianic Sect. Out of this, Christianity was born, which was a mixture of originally pure Judaism, and gradually, progressive influences of pagan customs and traditions, together with a growing tide of an anti-Semitic spirit. This was greatly due to the instigation of influential leaders like Constantine the Great, who was a Zeus worshipper, and who purportedly converted to Christianity. It was also a natural process as a result of the infiltration of followers of the sun god, Zeus, into the Christian ranks. Even the name of their pagan idol 'Zeus' was applied to their new-found Jewish Messiah - and Y'Shuah (the abbreviated transliteration of YAHU'SHUAH), became "Y'Zeus" or Je-Zeus - which became 'Jesus' in English (NOTE - the middle 's' is pronounced as a 'z'). In other languages, it took on various other forms.

A similar pagan influenced name-shift has been retained to this day in the KJV translation of Luke 4:27, where it refers to the prophet "Eliseus' and an event recorded in 2 Kings 5:14 (according even to the KJV reference version). This prophet's Hebrew name, however, was 'Eli'Shuah', which means "God is my Salvation" (as Y'SHUAH means "YAH is Salvation" or "YAH the Saviour"). Exactly the same as the pagan influence changed Y'SHUAH to "Y'Zeus" - ('Jesus' - phonetically 'Jezus'), so also Luk 4:27 reflects the change of "Eli'Shuah" to "Eli'Zeus' ("My God is Zeus")! Youngs Bible Concordance in its reference to the name 'Eliseus', states: "The form in which the name of Elisha appears in the common version of the New Testament and the Apocrypha in Luke 4:27".
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the jesus you speak of is the sol invictus/mithras clone, rome created by using the real yashuah and mixing with their mystery school symbolism, eg the sun of god = the son of god, all going back to egypt, the god amen-ra ra/solar worship/death cult. why do finish every prayer with amen? who are you praying to?
that's utter nonsense invented by His Maxwellness.

sun of god? what the fuck? what sense does it make, if it does?

amen-ra? what does ammon ra has to do with the word amen. just because they sound similar?

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this is why yashuah lived and jesus never. jesus is romes creation based on the teacher yahsuah who they killed, in partnership with jewish clergy. they then added their mithras, sol invictus, osiris, solar myth theology onto him, and created jesus.
first you say that jesus is the english word for yashuah and here you say that yashuah is real and jesus is fake.

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in basic terms, they killed this teacher/rebel, then about 300 years later/council of nicea, its the first passage of this thread. they used him, as the main part of their new religion for empire, to have an all encompassing, all inclusive religion to strengthen a fading empire. they cleverly added their elite/luciferic religion, eg mystery school, onto him, to create the jesus we know now. its a trojan horse.
the above paragraph is wrong. i mean the idea that everything was decided in the council of Nicea, is a myth, which is very popular to anti christians.

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so yashuah lived, taught, opposed corruption, the elite, the establishment and religous authorities he detested. so they as a cartel, joined together, paid judas and got arrested. trumped up his charges, and crucified him. so in the end, the elite, the people, being the sell outs they are/were, killed him. thats the truth. thats why its called the tyranny of the majority, as most are domesticated animals, slavishly following the elite.
wrong again. the "elite" didn't want to have anything to do with such a murder. it is the people, the plain peasants, the people that you praise here, who decided and demanded it.
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geo, at least you see the cleverness of rome.

so a logical question would be, do you think rome would not lie ?

look at canonical law, the pope is god on earth, look at the reformation when people opposed the vatican.

look at the jesuits, romes funding of columbus, their non action in the jewish holocaust in ww2.

this selective love of rome, they hate rome when it infringes/condemns their lifestyle eg sex out of wedlock is bad, birth control is bad, etc. when the the vatican calls all non catholics, not real christians, aswell lol

but we love them when it supports a white jesus based on mystery school and cesare borgia.

people are such tyrannical fuckwits.
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In time, over the first few centuries after Messiah, [B]His Name was gradually changed to "Je-Zeus Khristos" by the pagan masses who converted and joined the originally Jewish Messianic Sect.
wrong!

zeus, the Greek "pagan" God, is pronounced ZEFS in Greek and not 'zoos' as the English pronunciation is.

there is no connection between the names Iesous (pronounced ee-sus) and Zeus (pronounced zephs, zefs) in any way imaginable.

why this propaganda?
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is this concept so hard, a real person called yashuah lived. he died, they added onto his terachings/legacy, their mystery school stuff/symbolism. they then converted/translated/changed his name into english/greek, and thus jesus was born. why not keep it as yashuah ?

look i am using english letters, Y A S H U A H, REAL FUCKING HARD AIN'T IT.LOL

sun of god/son of god. the solarisation, learn about cults, the sideral, lunar, stellar, solar, fertility/arigculture.


christians are misled, the truth is yashuah. i follow yashuah/yhwh/most high and all the teachers he sent from krishna, buddha, moses, etc. i don't follow the church, test them by their fruits, discern.

why change his appearence, was not towel head/asiatic in your liking, why change him to white cesare borgia clone. how many people are white in egypt, where he fled to safety, even if a european lives/holidays in a hot country, they tan anyway. and i think israel is hot. although you might want to check it, i might be wrong

why have contradictory gospels, omit books like enoch. why edit and redit.

the peasants killed him, pontius pilate, the clergy were peasants, lol

in time i will be proved correct.

we are all children of the most high, for yashuah to say he was the son of god, meant a child/creation, like you are a son of god, etc. we have a spirit, hence who gave us this spirit, the creator/most high/source/yhwh

so what does that make you?
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imo, the way 'to-deal-with-rome and it's prisoners' is, compassion, yeah, cum/com-passion............blessed-are-they-who/come/cum in the Name of the Lord, Jesus/Etc/etc.....and maybe, just-maybe, the 'scum-bags' aka as/rome will tell us about the MURDER of JP 1 and their other-crimes and free themselves and all of creation from their fn 'madness'.......................

ohhhhhh, 2change the notes 2 more pleasurable item..........i just love the-slut-in-us-all, penelopeee, in one of her-modes, Nuit/goddess, ck-this-data:
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MythologyIn Egyptian mythology, Nuit was the sky goddess. She is the daughter of Shu and Tefnut and was one of the Ennead.

The sun god Ra entered her mouth after the sun set in the evening and was reborn from her vulva the next morning. She also swallowed and rebirthed the stars.

She was a goddess of death, and her image is on the inside of most sarcophagi. The pharaoh entered her body after death and was later resurrected.

In art, Nuit is depicted as a woman wearing no clothes, covered with stars and supported by Shu; opposite her (the sky), is her husband, Seb (the Earth). With Seb, she was the mother of Osiris, Horus, Isis, Set, and Nephthys.
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Nuit
Hail Dora ! the-super-**** ! omg !
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