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Old 22-11-2018, 04:08 AM   #461
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oh look the progressives have no problem with disneys animators putting subliminal symbols and sexual imagery in the movies your children watch

what a surprise
Oh look, the religious fundamentalists have no problem launching smear campaigns and lying in general to back up their "god given" holier than thou morality.

If them religious fundamentalists hadn't made sex so taboo maybe some adults wouldn't be so darn fetishistic and weird about it.

My experience from my schooldays, pre video (in most households), dvd and internet, is that school kids are the prime culprits in drawing penises everywhere.

Please provide statistics to show the increase in school kids drawing penises since Disney films have become available on video, dvd and internet.

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Old 22-11-2018, 09:46 AM   #462
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Oh look, the religious fundamentalists have no problem launching smear campaigns and lying in general to back up their "god given" holier than thou morality.

If them religious fundamentalists hadn't made sex so taboo maybe some adults wouldn't be so darn fetishistic and weird about it.

My experience from my schooldays, pre video (in most households), dvd and internet, is that school kids are the prime culprits in drawing penises everywhere.

Please provide statistics to show the increase in school kids drawing penises since Disney films have become available on video, dvd and internet.

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ah yes the moral relatavist argument that pedophilia is ok because morality is relative

they argue that fucking children is not the problem

they argue that the problem is that you stigmatise them fucking kids...

this is good you are helping me in my task here to show the world what lies underneath these ideological masks
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Old 22-11-2018, 04:15 PM   #463
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ah yes the moral relatavist argument that pedophilia is ok because morality is relative

they argue that fucking children is not the problem

they argue that the problem is that you stigmatise them fucking kids...

this is good you are helping me in my task here to show the world what lies underneath these ideological masks
That's like saying a rubber dinghy is an aircraft carrier. I made no claim that pedophilia was in any way a good thing. What a ridiculous thing to say. I never said that I endorsed anything.

But you are the one that says he wants society to have Christian values. Christian values include Satan. So, you want Satan. Don't blame it on me.

And you claim that Satan is Marxist progressives in some Christian Neo Con politicising of it all. And what is it all? It's your own mind. Well done. Idiot.
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Old 22-11-2018, 08:38 PM   #464
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That's like saying a rubber dinghy is an aircraft carrier. I made no claim that pedophilia was in any way a good thing. What a ridiculous thing to say. I never said that I endorsed anything.

But you are the one that says he wants society to have Christian values. Christian values include Satan. So, you want Satan. Don't blame it on me.

And you claim that Satan is Marxist progressives in some Christian Neo Con politicising of it all. And what is it all? It's your own mind. Well done. Idiot.
no i have said that there is a worse puritanical force than christianity which is neo-marxism that leads to technocracy and then transhumanisn

i'm glad you have finally conceded that there are occultists out there implanting subliminal symbols into popular culture

however it seems that you have no problem when they put cocks in childrens movies and cartoons but you do seem to have a problem when people point out what they are doing

clearly you would rather that they can get away with it

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Old 22-11-2018, 11:06 PM   #465
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no i have said that there is a worse puritanical force than christianity which is neo-marxism that leads to technocracy and then transhumanisn

i'm glad you have finally conceded that there are occultists out there implanting subliminal symbols into popular culture

however it seems that you have no problem when they put cocks in childrens movies and cartoons but you do seem to have a problem when people point out what they are doing

clearly you would rather that they can get away with it

duely noted
Yes, you conceded earlier that you were an occultist, and indeed I did state that you may be responsible for Mandela Effecting occult symbolism into society.

So, I think you put those cocks in those pics from movies and cartoons with your intent to see them there. And no, I don't think you should get away with it.

And no, I'm not gonna get all worked up about it. I'll let you do that. It is after all what you want to do. Create your own reality of cartoon cocks.

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Old 26-11-2018, 06:35 PM   #466
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Yes, you conceded earlier that you were an occultist, and indeed I did state that you may be responsible for Mandela Effecting occult symbolism into society.

So, I think you put those cocks in those pics from movies and cartoons with your intent to see them there. And no, I don't think you should get away with it.

And no, I'm not gonna get all worked up about it. I'll let you do that. It is after all what you want to do. Create your own reality of cartoon cocks.

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ah so it wasn't a bunch of occultists working at disney who put those images in there?

wow

so your reality works like this: if someone exposes what others are doing and you are politically opposed to that person you then accuse that person of being guilty of the thing that they are exposing

that's really sick
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Andrea Long Chu’s Fake Vagina

By ROD DREHER • November 24, 2018, 5:44 PM


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Sit down and read this essay in The New York Times by Andrea Long Chu. It is, inadvertently, an icon of our radically disordered culture. Here’s how it starts:

Next Thursday, I will get a vagina. The procedure will last around six hours, and I will be in recovery for at least three months. Until the day I die, my body will regard the vagina as a wound; as a result, it will require regular, painful attention to maintain. This is what I want, but there is no guarantee it will make me happier. In fact, I don’t expect it to. That shouldn’t disqualify me from getting it.

Could there possibly be a more succinct statement of our very particular cultural madness? What I want is against nature, and I believe it will make me miserable, but I want it, and you had all better give it to me.

Chu goes on to say that being on estrogen has made him even unhappier than he was to begin with:

Like many of my trans friends, I’ve watched my dysphoria balloon since I began transition. I now feel very strongly about the length of my index fingers — enough that I will sometimes shyly unthread my hand from my girlfriend’s as we walk down the street. When she tells me I’m beautiful, I resent it. I’ve been outside. I know what beautiful looks like. Don’t patronize me.

I was not suicidal before hormones. Now I often am.

I won’t go through with it, probably. Killing is icky. I tell you this not because I’m cruising for sympathy but to prepare you for what I’m telling you now: I still want this, all of it. I want the tears; I want the pain. Transition doesn’t have to make me happy for me to want it. Left to their own devices, people will rarely pursue what makes them feel good in the long term. Desire and happiness are independent agents.


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But I also believe that surgery’s only prerequisite should be a simple demonstration of want. Beyond this, no amount of pain, anticipated or continuing, justifies its withholding.

Nothing, not even surgery, will grant me the mute simplicity of having always been a woman. I will live with this, or I won’t. That’s fine. The negative passions — grief, self-loathing, shame, regret — are as much a human right as universal health care, or food. There are no good outcomes in transition. There are only people, begging to be taken seriously.


Do you see what’s happening here? Chu says that the treatments doctors have given him are making him sicker, even making him desire suicide. But if he wants to suffer and to die, then he should have that right. Satisfying desire is the only thing that matters.

This poor man with asparagus-colored hair is going to submit to mutilation next week, and will have to spend the rest of his life inserting an object into the wound surgeons will have made in his pubic area, to prevent his body from healing itself. This man — “like many of my trans friends” — expects this medical procedure to make him no happier, and in fact may make him feel more miserable, even suicidal.

But he wants it. People like him want all of society to upend its laws, its customs, and its norms to facilitate that desire, and to act like there’s nothing wrong with it. And society is giving them what they want, and punishing those who deny that this is paradise.

Freeing the autonomous will from sex and gender norms is the summum bonum of contemporary American progressivism. The insatiably miserable Andrea Long Chu is its incarnation.
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Old 28-11-2018, 05:32 AM   #468
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ah so it wasn't a bunch of occultists working at disney who put those images in there?

wow

so your reality works like this: if someone exposes what others are doing and you are politically opposed to that person you then accuse that person of being guilty of the thing that they are exposing

that's really sick
No, I'm just looking at alternatives to what you say is true.

Like for instance the pic of Alice from Disney's Alice In Wonderland which you say shows an occult hand symbol. Well she's not holding it up or down to indicate "as above, so below" she's holding it "as sideways".

My memory of such things is that such a hand gesture indicates daintiness and effete, like someone picking up a soiled rag. Now one can pick up a soiled rag with one's forefinger and thumb as an alternative but that would be "eye of horus" occult symbolism. There's probably no hand position that isn't occult to someone. Well then, "if your hand offend thee" you know what to do.

And what hand symbol is there to show daintiness now that you've decreed all such hand positions to be sinister occult?

Furthermore, sexual symbolism is woven into the fabric of reality. Why is that? Is it perhaps to ensure that people grow up to be adults with the requisite sexual desires enough to procreate and ensure the survival of humanity?

All I'm doing is looking at alternative interpretations, and for that I get called a Marxist and Pedo enabler. Well, your interpretation may lead to the extinction of humanity, the very thing you keep "warning" about.

I'm not saying you are right or I am right. I am exercising my free will to think, and my right to think differently to you.
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No, I'm just looking at alternatives to what you say is true.

Like for instance the pic of Alice from Disney's Alice In Wonderland which you say shows an occult hand symbol. Well she's not holding it up or down to indicate "as above, so below" she's holding it "as sideways".

My memory of such things is that such a hand gesture indicates daintiness and effete, like someone picking up a soiled rag. Now one can pick up a soiled rag with one's forefinger and thumb as an alternative but that would be "eye of horus" occult symbolism. There's probably no hand position that isn't occult to someone. Well then, "if your hand offend thee" you know what to do.

And what hand symbol is there to show daintiness now that you've decreed all such hand positions to be sinister occult?

Furthermore, sexual symbolism is woven into the fabric of reality. Why is that? Is it perhaps to ensure that people grow up to be adults with the requisite sexual desires enough to procreate and ensure the survival of humanity?

All I'm doing is looking at alternative interpretations, and for that I get called a Marxist and Pedo enabler. Well, your interpretation may lead to the extinction of humanity, the very thing you keep "warning" about.

I'm not saying you are right or I am right. I am exercising my free will to think, and my right to think differently to you.
no i think what you are doing is ignoring context and zeroing in on the odd tiny detail that you think you can then shed doubt over. I believe what you are trying to do is deny the existence of occult influence in the upper echelons of society where pedophilia is ritually practised

that process of trying to sow doubt in peoples minds online is called 'cognitive infiltration' and obamas information tzar cass sunstein said that government actors should be used to do that on online forums and chat rooms

I also don't agree that the reason disney animators put cocks in childrens movies is to help those children grow up to be promising procreators because i would say that their 'disney princess' obsession is a psyop that is counter to good relations between men and women

It is that preciousness encouraged by disney princesses who condition girls to all believe that they are mini princesses that is adding fuel to the fire of the marxist feminist programme of the destruction of normal relations between men and women

Princess Intervention

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so looks like this tranny who inveigled themelves into the Labour Party has some - er - interesting hobbies


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so looks like this tranny who inveigled themelves into the Labour Party has some - er - interesting hobbies
witchcraft!

oh look the occult rearing its head among the progressives

so we have the corporate socialists holding up pop stars and movie stars who flash occultic symbology in their media and the progressives all lap it up
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Transgenderism Is Propaganda Designed To Humiliate And Compel Submission

ARTHUR GORDIAN SEPTEMBER 26, 2017

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This article offers an alternative hypothesis as to the reason why transgenderism has become the cause celebre du jour of Cathedral elites. The ordinary hypothesis, based on works like those of Paul Gottfried, says that transgenderism is an example of left-wing virtue-signaling and the escalating competition to be more holy than the next person. In an attempt to raise one’s status, the leftist must embrace more extreme signals of egalitarianism than others of his cohort. Thus, left-wing signaling is an arms race in which leftists are trapped by the terms of their religious status system in an escalating spiral to see who can find the most radical, most irrational expression of egalitarian ideas.

Instead, consider an additive hypothesis: the Cathedral elite know full well that transgender individuals are mentally ill and have chosen to embrace this cause for ulterior motives, as there is something inherent in the issue that provides them an advantage. Transgenderism is Type 1 Propaganda, and its primary targets are not loyal leftists, but individuals on the marginal Right capable of swinging either for or against the Cathedral.

What are these “types” of propaganda? In the collection of rhetorician Richard Weaver’s essays entitled In Defense of Tradition, Weaver describes the different forms which propaganda can take and their intended effects. Type 1 Propaganda is the “Big Lie” of the Soviet Union or Orwell’s 1984. The nature of the “Big Lie” is that the lie should be so big and so obvious that no sane person could believe it.

Superficially, this form of propaganda would be similar to the Chinese loyalty test referred to as “Point Deer Make Horse.” The difference is how the lie is used. As a loyalty test, the “Big Lie” is meant to distinguish those who will lie from those who will not lie for the authorities. As a form of propaganda, the loyalties of the targets are already known: they are enemies. Instead, the lie is a form of psychological torture meant to degrade and demean members of the opposition. Consider the following quote from Theodore Dalrymple:

In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is…in some small way to become evil oneself. One’s standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

Weaver explains that this form of propaganda is aimed at demeaning, humiliating, and eroding the self-respect of those who oppose the regime. It is an expression of pure power, in that the propagandist can force the victim to repeat a doctrine that both people know is untrue. There is no potential gain for the propagandist except insofar his enemy is psychological broken and defeated. There is no intention for the “Big Lie” to have any effect outside the torture chamber. Whether or not transgender individuals are accepted by society is irrelevant to the exercise of power by the Cathedral elites over marginally right-wing individuals.

The best illustration of this type of propaganda is the famous scene from 1984 when O’Brien asks Winston how many fingers he is holding up. O’Brien knows that he is holding up four fingers. He knows that Winston knows there are four fingers. O’Brien is not trying to torture Winston to the point that he will forever be incapable of distinguishing four and five fingers. O’Brien is simply exercising power by demonstrating that Winston is utterly powerless and that his very words and actions are controlled by the Party. As soon as he walks out of the room, O’Brien does not care how many fingers Winston sees, only that Winston recognizes the power O’Brien, and by extension the Party, wields over him.

In the end, Winston’s broken state is such that he no longer feels the capacity to resist the Party. When Winston says that he “loves Big Brother” at the end, this is not to be taken as an act of will, that somehow he has been “brainwashed” and now believes in Ingsoc. Winston has been hollowed of the capacity to love at all. The only thing he is capable of doing is mimicking the commands of the Party. Insofar as he “loves” Big Brother, he is simply repeating the motions commanded by the Party robotically.

Likewise, the promotion of transgenderism is aimed at instilling such a state on the members of the marginal Right, which the Cathedral understand to be subject to radicalization. The Cathedral understands that the Outer Right will outright reject the propaganda, but doesn’t need transgenderism as a kind of loyalty test. The Outer Right has outed itself in a multitude of ways prior to this particular propaganda campaign. These days, one merely needs to look at a person’s Twitter or Facebook to identify them as loyal or disloyal to the Cathedral. Instead, this propaganda is aimed at religious and socially conservative or moderate individuals who are politically centrist or center-right. The threat is implicit: either admit that the man in a dress is a woman, or we will take away your job, take away your respectability in the community, send CPS after your children, and otherwise destroy your life.

To take it one step further, examine the various media pieces about how straight men are bigots because they won’t have sex with transsexual “women.” The implicit threat here is chilling. The message from Cathedral mouthpieces is that the time is coming when dissenters will be told that they must copulate with a transgender or be punished by the regime. What could be a greater exercise of pure power than forcing your opponents to participate in soul-destroying sexual depravity and to pretend to enjoy it? Can one imagine a more powerful means of psychologically destroying an opponent than to command them to defile their body and call it an act of love?

The typical individual this is aimed at is a moderate Republican who thinks John McCain is a hero for his military service, attends a traditional church but wants a little compassion for homosexuals, and who lives in a 90%+ white neighborhood, but says race has nothing to do with the flourishing of his community. He is understood by the Cathedral to be potentially disloyal, even if he is not disloyal at this moment. If he gets robbed at gunpoint by a young black man or if a member of his church gets sued for not baking a gay marriage cake, he could very well radicalize. Therefore, the Cathedral needs to get to him first. While his children can be converted via public education and mass-media propaganda, it’s much harder to change the mind of a grown adult. Therefore, the Cathedral focuses on blackpilling through propaganda.

As described in the Dalrymple quote, being forced to call Bruce Jenner a woman is only part of the blackpilling effect of Type 1 Propaganda. Being marched into the boss’s office and having to lie about one’s beliefs do erode the self-respect of the victim. What makes this form of propaganda more insidious is that every person who submits to it participates in the attack on other dissenters. Type 1 Propaganda is more than just O’Brien and Winston in a small room; it’s the Two Minutes Of Hate in public, as well. When our moderate Republican submits to intimidation and spouts the transgender lie, he participates in pressuring others to submit to the lie, give up their self-respect, and resign themselves to apathy and helplessness in the face of Cathedral tyranny. In his assent, he becomes an agent of the Cathedral and an ideological Stasi agent no different than the one who attacked him.

Transgender individuals are puppets of his system. Their ultimate fate is irrelevant to the question at hand, and any discussion on the right about “compassion” or “understanding” is a non sequitur. Just like the Civil Rights movement, once the Cathedral gains its objective, the superficial justification for the campaign is cast aside. Once the Cathedral demolished the ability of local competing political elites to resist the power of their national institutions, the plight of the black community was no longer relevant to left-wing politics, except insofar as they could be leveraged for further objectives, such as nationalizing and centralizing law enforcement.

Likewise, acting like transgenderism has anything to do with helping actual transgender individuals makes one a participant in propaganda and a willing dupe.

Ultimately, the goal which the Cathedral has set for transgenderism is to blackpill the marginal Right into silence and compliance. The terror of retaliation by the political elites is used to instill the kind of hopelessness and passivity which would prevent individuals on the Right from breaking out of the false consciousness of Cathedral ideology and recognizing their true interests in removing the Cathedral from power.

They don’t need the men on the Right to physically cut off their genitals because the Cathedral is commanding them to do it psychologically.

How many genders am I holding up, Winston?
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I would not want my kids going to this school.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46401773

Even though there is a separation of two, the person and his thinking doesn't change and it seeps through. But I guess this is helpful if the agenda is to corrupt the mind of young ones...gently.

This kind of news tell me that we are really at the end.
The world is shit beyond turning point. Over to you David.

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An official who agreed a policy allowing male-bodied sex offenders into women’s prisons was a sex offender who hoarded 22,000 indecent pictures of children.

Gordon Pike, a senior official of the Scottish Prison Service, was one of those responsible for its “gender identity and gender reassignment policy”, documents seen by The Sunday Times show. The policy is significantly more liberal than England’s, stating that transgender prisoners must normally be housed according to the “social gender” with which they self-identify, “whether or not” they have legally changed it.

Two years after approving the policy, Pike, 57, was arrested at prison service headquarters in Edinburgh. Searching his home, police found 45 discs containing 22,100 indecent images of children, including 500 of “penetrative sexual activity” with minors.
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Still looks like a man.

Let people be whoever they want to be, but stop pushing all this onto children as though it's perfectly normal.
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the promotion of transgender is to NORMALISE the changes being pushed on people through exposure to fertility destroying, gender bending, endocrine disrupting chemicals that are in many every day products, period

instead of asking:

'why is fertility dropping in society'

or

'why are so many people now gender bending'

society is instead, because of the pressures of 'political correctness' asking: 'how can we adapt to being gender bended as a society?'

but what is actually happening is that our ability to reproduce is being DESTROYED

people are allowing themselves to be bullied by the leftist PC brownshirts into NOT asking the qustions that need to be asked to protect our children
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Should the NHS pay for transgender fertility treatment?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health...lity-treatment
How does this work when a hetro couple can't get NHS fertility treatment nad have to fund themselves?

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How does this work when a hetro couple can't get NHS fertility treatment nad have to fund themselves?
it doesn't work which is the whole point

cultural marxism is about destroying society in any way they can think of; it is death by a thousand cuts

If you want society to succeed then obviously you prioritise assistance of hetero couples as successful pairings of hetero mates is what is required to give birth to young

Then you have to assist or at least not hamper those couples in being able to work together over a long period to raise the young in a stable and nurturing environment

Clearly the people running our society are trying to derail those processes and that is because they have an agenda to remove european people from existence
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