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Old 15-12-2014, 05:00 AM   #41
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Both in Islam and Christianity it is FORBIDDEN to worship images or symbols of ANY KIND.

Both religion teach to pray to God DIRECTLY,there is no "middle men" and that includes symbols,statues,images or signs.

In fact in Islam it states angels do not enter homes with statues.


If Pakistan was Islamic country they would know RULES,what makes you a Muslim is OBEYING THOSE RULES not inventing your own or worshiping wrong things.


Perhaps you would like to tell the 182,000,000 Muslims in Pakistan that they are not Muslims but are just wearing a white coat

Good luck with that
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Old 15-12-2014, 05:01 AM   #42
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im living in NZ at the moment, and basically, we have seen this coming. i work on building sites where tradesmen talk about the ills of the world and well known conspiracies each and every day. everybody knows now! in fact, a few months ago we were saying something has to happen in Australia or New Zealand, to get people on board the war-horse.

no fucking shit, we discussed how Australia would be next. and here we go. every **** over here knows that their country is being sold out, piece by piece, so their leaders can go play with the 'big 'boys'.

nice little military base in this part of the world, is Australia and New Zealand. People know its pure bullshit, saw it happening b4 it did, and here it is.

fact is, NZ or AUS have no reason to be involved whatsoever, the people can see this blinding fact, they are so so so far away, no major arms manufacturers or oil companies, so why the fuck should this part of the world be involved AT ALL!? i ask you? its friggin bullshit.
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Old 15-12-2014, 05:02 AM   #43
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Three hostages released.
Apparently they weren't released. They escaped.

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http://www.9news.com.au/National/201...s-Martin-Place

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Old 15-12-2014, 05:05 AM   #44
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ok more oddity's ive noticed from the telecast. They are now claiming its a 'lone wolf' attack.. repeating lone wolf over n over. However when I was watching earlier they showed a shot of the terrorist in the window and then a 2nd guy clearly came into view.. the person I was watching with remarked 'theres a 2nd one' .. yet now they are claiming only one lone wolf bla bla bla.

also 3 people have allegedly escaped, they showed footage.. the way they came out was so bullcrap. One was an old man, who looked hardly flustered or remotely out of breath for someone who just escaped a hostage situation, the other a guy pansying about the place, then another came through some doors who was obviously a worker there (wearing an apron).. anyway I need to look again because some details are not coming to mind currently.. however it just looked ridiculous.. this is such a pantomime..
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Old 15-12-2014, 05:09 AM   #45
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MSM is reporting "on schedule". As if we knew in advance...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dney-cafe.html

"Sweet girl" is believed to have arrived at the Lindt cafe in Martin Place at 9am 

A mother has urged the public to pray for her daughter, believed to be one of the hostages held inside a Sydney cafe.
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Old 15-12-2014, 05:09 AM   #46
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Perhaps you would like to tell the 182,000,000 Muslims in Pakistan that they are not Muslims but are just wearing a white coat

Good luck with that
I said Pakistan is not a Islamic society not there are no Muslims in Pakistan.
Of course there are many Pakistanis who practice Islam properly and they are true Muslims but as a whole society it is not Islamic.
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Old 15-12-2014, 05:12 AM   #47
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MSM is reporting "on schedule". As if we knew in advance...


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...dney-cafe.html

"Sweet girl" is believed to have arrived at the Lindt cafe in Martin Place at 9am 

A mother has urged the public to pray for her daughter, believed to be one of the hostages held inside a Sydney cafe.
Dont forget Sydney is located on 33rd degree.
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Old 15-12-2014, 05:23 AM   #48
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I said Pakistan is not a Islamic society not there are no Muslims in Pakistan.
Of course there are many Pakistanis who practice Islam properly and they are true Muslims but as a whole society it is not Islamic.
Nah, of course not, only 97% of them are.

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Old 15-12-2014, 05:24 AM   #49
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Australian Defence personnel held counter-terrorism training in Martin Place 1 May 2013 - http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/20...3-2673686.html
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Old 15-12-2014, 05:32 AM   #50
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Look at this picture,people "gathered" at Hyde Park near Martin place.

It shows Apollo standing inside Hexagram with Beasts on side pointing finger toward St.Mary Cathedral which was gifted by Pope Pius XI who was a first KING of Vatican.
Pope Benedict visited it in 2008.

And as some prophecies there would be 8th Kings before arrival of Anti-Christ.




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Australian Defence personnel held counter-terrorism training in Martin Place 1 May 2013 - http://beforeitsnews.com/politics/20...3-2673686.html

From September 2014:

Omarjan Azari

While the claims remain unconfirmed, it’s understood the plot involved abducting a random Australian, execute them by beheading in a public place, possibly Martin Place in Sydney’s CBD, and film the act and post on social media.

The ABC reported suspects arrested in Brisbane had purchased machetes, balaclavas and military fatigues. NSW Police have launched a major focus on public places called Operation Hammerhead which would see hundreds of police “out and about”.
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Old 15-12-2014, 06:00 AM   #52
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Convenient distraction for a government set to release its bad form budget stats.
Convenient permission slip for government to absolve more of our democratic liberties.
Convenient excuse for bigots to persecute innocent Muslims even more.

Social media abuzz in my circles calling it a false flag, some theories/info below:

*whole CBD shutdown incl public transport and offices...for 1 gunman (they're always lone gunman in false flags aren't they)

*the Lindt cafe is conveniently located opposite the Channel 7 'News' building and a few doors down from the Federal Reserve Bank (social media buzz is why wasn't it a Max Brenner cafe if it is an 'islamic extremist')

*Counterterrorism training held in Martin Place (the scene) in May this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5deT...be&app=desktop
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/...fbbf1c68707a8f

* "The Treasurer Joe Hockey and Finance Minister Mathias Cormann were due to release the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook (MYEFO) and hold a press conference at 12:30pm (AEDT) today. In light of the siege underway in Sydney's CBD, the Government has announced that its release is being postponed "until further notice".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-1...-siege/5967730

*Budget will announce cutting of 175 govt agencies + cuts to more
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...3c8c5f977ab901

* PM Tony 'puppet' Abbot's approval ratings at record lows as of last week. How convenient there is now a crisis for him to take charge of. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-0...ananas/5954820

*at 10am I googled Lindt Cafe Sydney and there was already this entry there - all my efforts to edit the page were deleted asap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis

*convenient money shot photo through the window of the suspect but no snipers about. Another convenient money shot doing the rounds of staff holding a flag up against the window of the cafe with a Merry Christmas sign in it...

A photo a friend took at around 4.30pm Sydney time at the scene showing our police hard at work protecting and serving (sitting on their arses checking their mobile phones)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Meanwhile local Murdoch media whips up the hatred frenzy with gutter journalism on the front pages with a 'special 2pm edition'
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


Live updates without a lot of hype here: http://www.theguardian.com/australia...ve?CMP=soc_567

Article https://newmatilda.com/2014/12/15/si...s-martin-place


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Old 15-12-2014, 06:10 AM   #53
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Convenient distraction for a government set to release its bad form budget stats.
Convenient permission slip for government to absolve more of our democratic liberties.
Convenient excuse for bigots to persecute innocent Muslims even more.

Social media abuzz in my circles calling it a false flag, some theories/info below:

*whole CBD shutdown incl public transport and offices...for 1 gunman (they're always lone gunman in false flags aren't they)

*the Lindt cafe is conveniently located opposite the Murdoch Channel 7 'News' building and a few doors down from the Federal Reserve Bank (social media buzz is why wasn't it a Max Brenner cafe if it is an 'islamic extremist')

*Counterterrorism training held in Martin Place (the scene) in May this year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5deT...be&app=desktop
http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/...fbbf1c68707a8f

* "The Treasurer Joe Hockey and Finance Minister Mathias Cormann were due to release the Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook (MYEFO) and hold a press conference at 12:30pm (AEDT) today. In light of the siege underway in Sydney's CBD, the Government has announced that its release is being postponed "until further notice".
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-1...-siege/5967730

*Budget will announce cutting of 175 govt agencies + cuts to more
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...3c8c5f977ab901

* PM Tony 'puppet' Abbot's approval ratings at record lows as of last week. How convenient there is now a crisis for him to take charge of. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-0...ananas/5954820

*at 10am I googled Lindt Cafe Sydney and there was already this entry there - all my efforts to edit the page were deleted asap
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Sydney_hostage_crisis

*convenient money shot photo through the window of the suspect but no snipers about. Another convenient money shot doing the rounds of staff holding a flag up against the window of the cafe with a Merry Christmas sign in it...

A photo a friend took an hour ago at the scene showing our police hard at work protecting and serving (sitting on their arses checking their mobile phones)
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

Meanwhile local Murdoch media whips up the hatred frenzy with gutter journalism on the front pages
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater


Live updates without a lot of hype here: http://www.theguardian.com/australia...ve?CMP=soc_567

Article https://newmatilda.com/2014/12/15/si...s-martin-place


Will update if more info becomes available

Convenient renaming of the initial thread to pose false flag as a question instead

Gotta be fair .. I mean seeing as how mainstream media is so fair all the time..
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Old 15-12-2014, 06:16 AM   #54
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Funny stuff.I love it.News IS entertainment! Actors and all
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Funny stuff.I love it.News IS entertainment! Actors and all


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And as I pointed out at other story,attack occuered on 15 which seems to be involved in almost every story about ISIS and Syria.

Just Google "ISIS and any of these numbers 15,150,1500,15000,150000,1.5 million" to see how MANY news articles have that number.It shows you how all of this is faked.
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And as I pointed out at other story,attack occuered on 15 which seems to be involved in almost every story about ISIS and Syria.

Just Google "ISIS and any of these numbers 15,150,1500,15000,150000,1.5 million" to see how MANY news articles have that number.It shows you how all of this is faked.
XV is 15

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XV is 15

Interesting,didn't even notice that but what significance 15 has for them and Devil?
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Interesting,didn't even notice that but what significance 15 has for them and Devil?
Don't know for sure. One thing 15 (or IS) shows it is the devil carrying out these false flags.....15 being IS is ISIS and we always go back to ancient Egypt and ISIS

Mail Online were having a lot of stories unrelated to ISIS but were emphasising IS in capital letters. Since I posted this up a few weeks back they seem to have got rid of them now but here is one that survived...

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Winter weight IS real: Six in 10 British women admit to letting themselves go during the colder months.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...er-months.html
I noticed that they also start a lot of their stories with "Is....." too
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Don't know for sure. One thing 15 (or IS) shows it is the devil carrying out these false flags.....15 being IS is ISIS and we always go back to ancient Egypt and ISIS

Mail Online were having a lot of stories unrelated to ISIS but were emphasising IS in capital letters. Since I posted this up a few weeks back they seem to have got rid of them now but here is one that survived...



I noticed that they also start a lot of their stories with "Is....." too
Thats exactly what I was talking about on other story I posted about MSM manipulating stories.
As soon someone posts something online exposing their lies they either run contra story or it "vanishes" like Ebola.

Now I was tracking No.15 after you posted it and I found TONS of stories about it,way more than you think and it is ALL OVER WORLD.

So they are promoting both IS and 15...why that is a question.

Here is one involving Australia,ISIS and 15 from October.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/new...pathisers.html
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