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Old 27-11-2016, 08:36 AM   #21
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Jill Stein Suspiciously Wants Recount Only In States Won By Trump

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Old 27-11-2016, 01:42 PM   #22
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Look this is how it works.

There are 2 wings of the conspiracy in the United States, and this translates to Europe as well.

In the US there is the Eastern "Liberal" establishment. Basically bankers and Corporate magnates who pose as "Liberals". These are guys like the Rockefellers, Morgans, Schiffs, Warburgs, Rothschilds etc. Also guys like George Soros. These guys are associated with think tanks like the Council on Foreign Relations, also The Brookings Institute. In Europe its groups like the Royal Institute for International Affairs and the Fabian Society. These groups usually back the controlled "leftist" politicians. So the Democrats in the US and the Labour in the UK.

On the other side of the coin we have the rightwing elements which are connected to the CIA, intelligence, and the Military establishment. They are also newer Oil magnates, (usually from Texas) There are strong fascist and Nazi elements amongst this crowd. We have people like the DuPOnts, Kochs, Mellons, Bush's, Mercers, DeVos' etc. These guys are associated with think tanks like Heritage Foundation, American Enterprise Institue, Council for National Policy, American Security Council. In Europe its secretive groups like Le Cercle (which I am only starting to learn about and have never heard of before) Le Cercle were behind "Operation Gladio" and the P2 Masonic Lodge. I haven't yet found the links but I am willing to bet that this Cercle group are behind Brexit and guys like Nigel Farage, Marie LePen, and all the emerging rightwing nationalists in Europe. After all this group is already full of Nazi collaborators.

Now there is a reason why I've never heard of groups like Le Cercle and only recently groups like the CNP and ASC. Its because the vast majority of the "Truth Movement" is controlled by the rightwing faction of the elites, pretty much run by the Knights of Malta.

So guys like Alex Jones, the John BIrch Society , and the heavily rightwing controlled "truth movement" (including the alt right and white nationalists) are here to expose "the eastern liberal establishment" and pin the entire NWO on them, while shielding the vast rightwing Fascist apparatus that the controllers are setting up.

So people think the NWO is only about the CFR, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, and George Soros. That's why people think Donald Trump is against the NWO, because they are unaware of the vast network tied to the CIA and Knights of Malta which is backing him.

That is the role of Alex Jones and the rest of the disinfo agents amongst the alternative media.

Then you have high level movers and shakers like Henry Kissinger who is not only a member of the "Liberal establishment" CFR and Bilderberg, but he is also a Knight of Malta and is a part of the AMerican Security Council which is the opposite end of the spectrum. The Rockefellers were also involved in setting up the John Birch Society as well as aiding the Nazis which is more in line with the Fascist faction, and Zbignew Brezinski who is CFR and advised "leftist" presidents like Carter and Obama is also a Knight of Malta.

The whole demonization of Hillary Clinton is carried out by the rightwing faction of the elites again with their alt media shills going along with the operation to dupe the public (who are becoming aware of the Knight of Malta concocted version of the NWO) in order to think Trump is some kind of saviour and restoring the REpublic.

The Knight of Malta faction are behind the conspiracy theories of "leftists, liberals, communists, Jews" attempting to take over America, and thus offer their fascist CIA backed elements as a solution. You've got the JBS, CNP, Heritage (all run by Knights of Malta) pushing these ideas.

The ultimate goal is to put a Christian extremist/Fascist regime in charge of the worlds most powerful nation. Thus they can proceed with their apocalyptic "end of days" madness and start global destruction so they can fake the arrival of Christ.

We may just have witnessed this.

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Old 28-11-2016, 04:37 PM   #23
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I agree that the secret society network control both ends of the authoritarian-spectrum of politics which is the one offered up by the two party system; the ultimate goal is to create a state-socialist world government where the oligarchs control everything and everyone from a central authority

Monopoly capitalism (ie corporatism) protected by a captured government allows the oligarchs to hoard the wealth and then buy up what the corrupt, captured governments privatise

Once the oligarchs own everything it is only a short step to them enshrining their central control in law which they are building through UN programmes like agenda 21 and agenda 2030

They swing the pendulum back and forth between the authoritarian-left and the authoritarian-right and each time they do it they manage to advance their agenda in new ways

This steady step by step roll out of the NWO globalised government is called the 'totalitarian tiptoe' by david and is used to roll things out so slowly that no one is able to connect the seemingly random events to then see them as part of a wider picture. This wider agenda of globalised social control rolls on regardless of which party the public votes in

But this doesn't mean that cultural marxism (ie subversion of the current capitalist paradigm) isn't occuring eg political correctness it most definately IS occuring and is used to soften up the public, divide and rule them and then prevent them talking about what is going on. Also the banksters such as the rothschilds manage the central banking aspect of the conspiracy which controls the economy in a centralised way

Its a mistake to brush the 'left' side of the hegelian dialectic under the carpet becasue it is the ultimate expression of what the NWO oligarchs want which is a state-socialist planned economy controlled from the top down by a small el-ite

Corporatism and monopoly capitalism is merely the means to the end
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Based on the unholy levels of hate for Trump I'm sensing from your thought-boss and y'all on these forums, I'm expecting most of you are just chafing at the bit to give this gal another chance and get to the metaphorical polls in 2020 to elect this there lady into power.

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Old 14-12-2018, 01:23 PM   #26
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David explores the financial connections between trump and rothschild INC

Trump got in debt and was helped out of that hole by rothschild inc

Now we see trump helping israel

Just Sign It Donald, Like A Good Little Boy - The David Icke Videocast

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The folks at zero hedge have posted two anti-trump pieces today. Looks like it is the globalists playing 4D chess not trump, or rather that trump is part of that game. Here's a summary of them:

Brandon Smith: Trump Is A Pied Piper For The New World Order Agenda
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 01/04/2019 - 23:05

Authored by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

In my last article, 'The Fed Is A Suicide Bomber With A Deeper Agenda', I explored and dismantled recent propaganda surrounding the Federal Reserve's tightening actions, including the propaganda that Jerome Powell is some kind of rogue central banker who is rebalancing the system for the good of the nation.
To summarize the points made in that article:

The Fed deliberately created the "Everything Bubble" so that it could be deliberately imploded at the proper time - in other words, the crash we have been witnessing so far during the final quarter of 2018 and continuing into 2019 is a controlled demolition of the economy. Jerome Powell is not some "rebel" going against the easy money dictates of the Fed. Jerome Powell is playing the role that has been given to him. Ben Bernanke and Janet Yellen's job was to inflate the bubble. Jerome Powell's job is to crash the bubble.

This is a tactic used by the Fed and the globalists that run it for over 100 years - conjure a debt bubble, deflate the debt bubble, cause a crisis, siphon up hard assets for pennies on the dollar, use the panic to gain more power and centralization, introduce new control measures while everyone is distracted, rinse, repeat.

This process of controlled demolition needs a considerable distraction so that the central banks and the globalists ultimately avoid blame for the painful consequences of the event.

Enter Donald Trump and the false Trump vs. Globalist paradigm.

In terms of social control, elitist con men are highly preoccupied with preventing spontaneous organization of rebellion. But this does not always involve the outright crushing of dissent. Instead, the elites prefer to use co-option and misdirection (con games) to lure rebellious movements to focus on the wrong enemy, or to trust the wrong leadership.

The most effective method for the establishment to sabotage a rebellion is to place one of their own puppets into a leadership position in that rebellion. This exploits the movement’s subconscious appetite for top down leadership. It neutralizes activists by tricking them into waiting for orders from on high instead of acting on their own individually. It makes a movement lazy and impotent.

In my article ‘Clinton vs. Trump And The Co-Option Of The Liberty Movement,’ published in September 2016, I noted:

“To summarize, the elites need a patsy for the breakdown of the financial system they have engineered. That patsy will not be Trump per se, but conservatives in general. Whether Donald Trump is aware of this program or not, I do not know. I have no hard evidence indicating that Trump is anti-constitution; then again, I don’t have much evidence indicating he is pro-constitution. All I have at present to go by is his rhetoric, and rhetoric counts for nothing.

What I do know is that triggering a fiscal crisis under the watch of Trump and blaming conservatives is far more useful to the elites than triggering a crisis under Clinton and risk blame falling on international banking syndicates.”

In the meantime, the globalists can slowly kill the world reserve status of the dollar while avoiding the blame for the severe economic consequences this will produce. A conflict between the White House and the central bank will be presented as a sign that faith in U.S. debt and the longevity of the dollar is a bad bet. Foreign holders of dollars and T-bills, already quietly dumping these assets, will accelerate the decoupling. Trump’s trade war activities add to the distraction, creating a brilliant theater in which conservatives are conned into supporting a puppet leader on the verge of collapse, and confirming the crazed arguments against conservative principles in the minds of globalists and leftists.

The con game is to get liberty advocates to invest themselves fully in Trump, to the point that we end up owning every mistake he makes, and every disaster that is pinned on him. There is a concerted propaganda campaign targeting the liberty movement which is telling us that Trump is playing “4D Chess;” that Trump is planning a “coup” against the banking elites, that Trump is planning to bring down the Fed as a means to save the U.S., and even that Trump is working with Jerome Powell to crash the globalist system as a means to “restore the Republic.”
The activists and alternative media are the real heroes. They are the people that pushed liberty philosophy into the mainstream. Trump merely rode the wave that they created. Even if he was a legitimate conservative and constitutionalist (which he is not), the movement doesn’t need his leadership. It never did. The globalists know this and hope to chain us to Trump as he sinks into historical oblivion, destroying us all in the process.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...d-order-agenda


Monetary Policy 'Reset': From Rhetoric To Actuality
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 01/04/2019 - 21:45

Authored by Steven Guinness,

A resurgence in nationalistic tendencies has been predominately associated with the advents of Brexit and Donald Trump’s presidency. But have these outcomes meant that we now neglect to give due consideration to the years that preceded the supposed breakdown of the ‘rules based global order‘?

It was in Davos at the 2013 World Economic Forum – three years before the UK voted to leave the European Union – that IMF head Christine Lagarde warned an audience of bankers and economists of the dangers of renewed protectionism:

If we look at openness, and we see that the situation is improving, you can be absolutely sure that nations will revert to their natural tendency of hiding behind their borders, of moving toward protectionism, of listening to vested interest and will forget about transcending those national priorities. It is not the way to go.

Of paramount importance, according to Lagarde, was the removal of barriers, particularly in terms of global trade. By observing the climate in the present day, trade has become a central pillar of geopolitical disorder in the manner of ‘Trump’s Trade War‘ with China and the potential for supply chains between the UK and the EU to be compromised in the wake of Brexit.

In 2014, Lagarde returned to Davos to speak to delegates about something she called ‘reset‘. Keep in mind at this point that the world was still over two years away from Brexit and Trump’s ascension to power. There had yet to be any discernible rise in what is today characterised throughout the media as ‘populism‘.

Sharing a platform with Bank of England governor Mark Carney and European Central Bank President Mario Draghi, Lagarde explained what this reset would entail in regards to monetary policy.

We see as necessary going forward a reset in the area of monetary policies. We believe that quantitative easing and the accommodating monetary policies that have been adopted should be continued up until such point that growth is well anchored in those economies.

Once it is well anchored then those accommodating policies have to be reformulated, have to move either back into their old territories or be more traditional, or be, maybe, of a different kind.

Nearly five years after Christine Lagarde first spoke of the need for a ‘reset‘ of global monetary policy, three of the most influential central banks in the world are all engaged in the practice, albeit at varying speeds.

The ‘reset‘ of monetary policy works primarily as a vehicle for the International Monetary Fund and the Bank for International Settlements to position themselves as the beneficiaries of the inevitable economic downturn that will ensue.

As I will be exploring in an upcoming series of articles, the IMF are agitating to reform their quota subscriptions (the institution’s prime source of funding) and in turn the weighting of their Special Drawing Rights (SDR) basket of currencies.

Conditions in the global economy – namely rising trade protectionism that pits the United States and China into economic conflict – has put the world reserve status of the dollar in increased jeopardy. For the IMF to achieve their goals, the dominance of the dollar as the payment of choice throughout global trade must not only be jeopardized. It must ultimately be dismantled, so as to gradually move the world nearer to the globalist utopia of assimilating national currencies through the SDR with the aim of creating a digitised global currency.

I believe that China’s inclusion in the IMF’s SDR basket in 2016 – just weeks before Donald Trump was chosen as the next U.S. president – marked the next significant stage of this process.
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles...cial-committee
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'Organized Crime Bosses Ruling Us By Fear…'
Catherine Frompovich
16 December 2018

Two “forensic accountants” have found what some would claim are the “smoking guns” with regard to the apparent illegal activities of the Clinton Foundation. I don’t want to dilute their testimony, so I defer to the video below, which ought to astonish readers regarding the apparent lack of interest in proceedings going further on investigating former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Is The Clinton Foundation Under Investigation?
16:31 minutes



‘A foundation to hide income streams from other illegal activity’
“The only thing in the way of justice is the criminal federal government.”
“The laws don’t apply to certain people.”

A very big “hat tip” to Alexandra Bruce of Forbidden Knowledge TV [1] in her reporting on the above December 13, 2018 House Oversight Subcommittee hearing, which I respectfully quote:

I want to thank Devon Stack at Black Pilled for covering the December 13th House Oversight Subcommittee hearing on the Clinton Foundation, where forensic accountants Larry Doyle and John Moynihan described – but chose not to present their evidence – of massive bribery schemes on the part of the Clinton Foundation, while testifying before the Committee’s Republican Chairman, Mark Meadows. [CJF emphasis]

[….]

Whether rightly or wrongly, Stack unleashes his ire and puts the blame for our corrupt government – and for the money-grubbing antics of the forensic accountants seen here – squarely on the lacking ethics of the Boomer generation.


When will Justice finally take off her blindfold to look at the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation?

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[1] https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/a-j...oomer-harvest/

Catherine J Frompovich (website) is a retired natural nutritionist who earned advanced degrees in Nutrition and Holistic Health Sciences, Certification in Orthomolecular Theory and Practice plus Paralegal Studies. Her work has been published in national and airline magazines since the early 1980s. Catherine authored numerous books on health issues along with co-authoring papers and monographs with physicians, nurses, and holistic healthcare professionals. She has been a consumer healthcare researcher 35 years and counting.
https://www.davidicke.com/article/51...ruling-us-fear
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David explores the financial connections between trump and rothschild INC

Trump got in debt and was helped out of that hole by rothschild inc

Now we see trump helping israel

Just Sign It Donald, Like A Good Little Boy - The David Icke Videocast

President Trump is in fact fulfilling his campaign promises and more. Pull out of Syria and Afghanistan announced, job market is screaming, NK no longer shooting rockets...Imagine a world where NK is under control of CIA clowns and the President of the USA severs those ties. Q said "We are saving Israel for last. Very specific reason not mentioned a single time." Do you think it is possible that POTUS/Q know well that as long as Israel is the Rothschild state it will be at the center of the problem and that an integral part of the plan is to free the people of Israel along with the rest of the world?

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President Trump is in fact fulfilling his campaign promises and more.
there are these positive little things going on in the background

for example 911 truthers have got a US attorney to present evidence to a grand jury:

Breakthrough: U.S. Attorney Agrees to Present Evidence of WTC Demolition to Federal Grand Jury
Finally, after 17 long years, the 9/11 Truth Movement has opened an avenue to prosecuting those responsible for the shocking destruction of the World Trade Center and the horrible loss of life that resulted. Last spring, the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry — together with more than a dozen 9/11 family members and with help from AE911Truth — filed a petition with the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan demanding that he present evidence of unprosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center to a special grand jury. Then, in November, came the big news: The U.S. Attorney notified the Lawyers’ Committee in writing that he would comply with the provisions of 18 U.S.C. § 3332 requiring him to relay their report to a special grand jury. Now the Lawyers' Committee and AE911Truth need your support so we can work to ensure a thorough and successful grand jury investigation.
https://www.ae911truth.org/grandjury

Meanwhile in the field of vaccines robert kennedy is fighting various legal cases having just won one which exposed that the government has not been testing vaccines and the latest one where he shows how testimony by a leading autism doctor was ignored after he suggested a link between the MMR vaccine and autism in kids with an underlying mitochondrial disorder:



Also a legal case is being made against the flouridation of drinking water:

U.S. Water Fluoridation: A Forced Experiment that Needs to End
January 09, 2019

Pregnancy and Fluoride Do Not Mix shows that the Institute of Medicine, National Research Council, Harvard’s National Scientific Council on the Developing Child, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and National Toxicology Program all are well aware of the substantial evidence of fluoride’s developmental neurotoxicity, yet no action has been taken to warn pregnant women. Instead, scientists with integrity, legal professionals and the public increasingly are taking matters into their own hands. A Citizens Petition submitted in 2016 to the EPA under the Toxic Substances Control Act requested that the EPA “exercise its authority to prohibit the purposeful addition of fluoridation chemicals to U.S. water supplies.” This request—the focus of a lawsuit to be argued in court later in 2019—poses a landmark challenge to the dangerous practice of water fluoridation and has the potential to end one of the most significant chemical assaults on our children’s developing bodies and brains.
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/n...-needs-to-end/

Also all the people who are behind all of these terrible things are being smoked out. Now we are getting to know who is who and what is what
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there are these positive little things going on in the background
I have explored the idea that trump might be a right wing gatekeeper of the NWO but a nuanced view can also consider whether these positive developments i menton above would have been able to gain any traction at all under the clinton regime

I suggest not. I suggest a climate of fear would have been created and a deep state encirclement of the wagons would have continued that simply would not have allowed these legal cases to be mounted

failing that a rash of assassinations would have shut it all down as so commonly happens when the clintons are around

Watching robert kennedy go after the bad guys reminds me of how bobby kennedy was able as the US Attorney General to pursue organised crime which was networked with the rothschild-cabal or what macarthy would have called the 'communist plot'

Bobby was able to do that because he was protected by a sympathetic president: his brother until of course he was assassinated

Robert kennedy would not have been allowed such free rein under hilary clinton who with a sympathetic corporate media would have shut him down
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'Senior Trump Official': "I Hope A Long Shutdown Smokes Out The Resistance"
by Tyler Durden
Tue, 01/15/2019 - 13:33

President Trump just retweeted the following 'anonymous' op-ed from The Daily Caller saying it is "worth the read."

Worth the read.

I’m A Senior Trump Official, And I Hope A Long Shutdown Smokes Out The Resistance https://t.co/6ahfOlyl5K via @dailycaller
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) January 14, 2019

The Daily Caller is taking the rare step of publishing this anonymous op-ed at the request of the author, a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose career would be jeopardized by its disclosure. We believe publishing this essay anonymously is the only way to deliver an important perspective to our readers. We invite you to submit a question about the essay or our vetting process here.

As one of the senior officials working without a paycheck, a few words of advice for the president’s next move at shuttered government agencies: lock the doors, sell the furniture, and cut them down.

Federal employees are starting to feel the strain of the shutdown. I am one of them. But for the sake of our nation, I hope it lasts a very long time, till the government is changed and can never return to its previous form.

The lapse in appropriations is more than a battle over a wall. It is an opportunity to strip wasteful government agencies for good.

On an average day, roughly 15 percent of the employees around me are exceptional patriots serving their country. I wish I could give competitive salaries to them and no one else. But 80 percent feel no pressure to produce results. If they don’t feel like doing what they are told, they don’t.

Why would they? We can’t fire them. They avoid attention, plan their weekend, schedule vacation, their second job, their next position — some do this in the same position for more than a decade.

They do nothing that warrants punishment and nothing of external value. That is their workday: errands for the sake of errands — administering, refining, following and collaborating on process. “Process is your friend” is what delusional civil servants tell themselves. Even senior officials must gain approval from every rank across their department, other agencies and work units for basic administrative chores.

Process is what we serve, process keeps us safe, process is our core value. It takes a lot of people to maintain the process. Process provides jobs. In fact, there are process experts and certified process managers who protect the process. Then there are the 5 percent with moxie (career managers). At any given time they can change, clarify or add to the process — even to distort or block policy counsel for the president.

Saboteurs peddling opinion as research, tasking their staff on pet projects or pitching wasteful grants to their friends. Most of my career colleagues actively work against the president’s agenda. This means I typically spend about 15 percent of my time on the president’s agenda and 85 percent of my time trying to stop sabotage, and we have no power to get rid of them. Until the shutdown.

Due to the lack of funding, many federal agencies are now operating more effectively from the top down on a fraction of their workforce, with only select essential personnel serving national security tasks. One might think this is how government should function, but bureaucracies operate from the bottom up — a collective of self-generated ideas. Ideas become initiatives, formalize into offices, they seek funds from Congress and become bureaus or sub-agencies, and maybe one day grow to be their own independent agency, like ours. The nature of a big administrative bureaucracy is to grow to serve itself. I watch it and fight it daily.

When the agency is full, employees held liable for poor performance respond with threats, lawsuits, complaints and process in at least a dozen offices, taking years of mounting paperwork with no fear of accountability, extending their careers, while no real work is done. Do we succumb to such extortion? Yes. We pay them settlements, we waive bad reviews, and we promote them.

Many government agencies have adopted the position that more complaints are good because it shows inclusion in, you guessed it, the process. When complaints come, it is cheaper to pay them off than to hold public servants accountable. The result: People accused of serious offenses are not charged, and self-proclaimed victims are paid by you, the American taxpayer.

The message to federal supervisors is clear. Maintain the status quo, or face allegations. Many federal employees truly believe that doing tasks more efficiently and cutting out waste, by closing troubled programs instead of expanding them, “is morally wrong,” as one cried to me.

I get it. These are their pets. It is tough to put them down and let go, and many resist. This phenomenon was best summed up by a colleague who said, “The goal in government is to do nothing. If you try to get things done, that’s when you will run into trouble.”

But President Trump can end this abuse. Senior officials can reprioritize during an extended shutdown, focus on valuable results and weed out the saboteurs. We do not want most employees to return, because we are working better without them. Sure, we empathize with families making tough financial decisions, like mine, and just like private citizens who have to find other work and bring competitive value every day, while paying more than a third of their salary in federal taxes.

President Trump has created more jobs in the private sector than the furloughed federal workforce. Now that we are shut down, not only are we identifying and eliminating much of the sabotage and waste, but we are finally working on the president’s agenda.

President Trump does not need Congress to address the border emergency, and yes, it is an emergency. Billions upon billions of hard-earned tax dollars are still being dumped into foreign aid programs every year that do nothing for America’s interest or national security. The president does not need congressional funding to deconstruct abusive agencies who work against his agenda. This is a chance to effect real change, and his leverage grows stronger every day the shutdown lasts.

The president should add to his demands, including a vote on all of his political nominees in the Senate. Send the career appointees back. Many are in the 5 percent of saboteurs and resistance leaders.

A word of caution: To be a victory, this shutdown must be different than those of the past and should achieve lasting disruption with two major changes, or it will hurt the president.

The first thing we need out of this is better security, particularly at the southern border. Our founders envisioned a free market night watchman state, not the bungled bloated bureaucracy our government has become. But we have to keep the uniformed officers paid, which is an emergency. Ideally, continue a resolution to pay the essential employees only, if they are truly working on national security. Furloughed employees should find other work, never return and not be paid.

Secondly, we need savings for taxpayers. If this fight is merely rhetorical bickering with Nancy Pelosi, we all lose, especially the president. But if it proves that government is better when smaller, focusing only on essential functions that serve Americans, then President Trump will achieve something great that Reagan was only bold enough to dream.

The president’s instincts are right. Most Americans will not miss non-essential government functions. A referendum to end government plunder must happen. Wasteful government agencies are fighting for relevance but they will lose. Now is the time to deliver historic change by cutting them down forever.

The author is a senior official in the Trump administration.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...out-resistance
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