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Old 02-10-2018, 07:53 PM   #1
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Keanu Reeves as Neo in the matrix 1999:
I know you're out there.I can feel you now.I know that you're afraid.You're afraid of us.You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone. And then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.

Keanu Reeves as Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still 2008 :
Dr. Benson: I need to know what's happening
Klaatu: This planet is dying. The human race is killing it.
Dr. Benson: So you've come here to help us.
Klaatu: No, I didn't.
Dr. Benson:You said you came to save us.
Klaatu: I said I came to save the Earth.
Dr. Benson:You came to save the Earth.... from us. You came to save the Earth from us.
Klaatu: We can't risk the survival of this planet for the sake of one species.
Dr. Benson: What are you saying?
Klaatu: If the Earth dies, you die. If you die, the Earth survives.
There are only a handful of planets in the cosmos that are capable of supporting complex life.
Dr. Benson: You can't do this.
Klaatu: This one can't be allowed to perish.
Dr. Benson: We can change. We can still turn things around.
Klaatu: We have watched. We have waited and hoped that you would change.
Dr. Benson: Please.
Klaatu: It has reached the tipping point. We have to act.
Dr. Benson: Please.
Klaatu: We will undo the damage you have done and give the Earth a chance to begin again.
Dr. Benson: Don't do this. Please, we can change. We can change.
Klaatu: The decision is made. The process has begun.
Dr. Benson: Oh, God.
Klaatu: It won't make any difference, Helen.Even if they arrest me, even if they kill me,the process will continue.


In the matrix 1999 Keanu Reeves as Neo is fighting for human's freedom:
He want to show the humans a world without the matrix, A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible.
He fight against the matrix for changing human's life in favor of freedom

In The Day the Earth Stood Still 2008 Keanu Reeves as Klaatu is the savior of the earth:
He want to control the humans and force them to change in favor of rules and borders of life in the earth
He want to show the earth a world without the humans to undo the damage humans have done and give the Earth a chance to begin again
He fight against the humans for saving the life in the earth
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Old 03-10-2018, 01:46 PM   #2
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I always find it funny that we humans think ourselves so powerfull that we can destroy the world... It seems more myxomatosis to me...
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:37 AM   #3
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Morpheus: Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Neo: The Matrix.

Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?

Neo: Yes.

Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television. You can feel it when you go to work... when you go to church... when you pay your taxes. It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

Neo: What truth?

Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.
The Morpheus convinced Neo to join fighting against the matrix , because they don't like to be slave in a prison named the matrix, But if they won this fight and if all of humans escape to outside of the matrix then will Slavery end?
Until the humans can earn an independent existence, Humans will remain slave for their need for existence, If the God is the only independent existence who simulating all dependent simulations and if we will never can earn an independent existence, then our existence will be dependent for ever and we should obey the God for donating our existence.
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Old 04-10-2018, 10:44 AM   #4
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Ill give you an oldschool natural version:
A child gets created and lands in the whomb, the MAtrix, it grows and learns then it gets born. For about 15 to 20 years it gets loved and taken care of by the Mother. Then a transittion ooccurs: adulthood knocks on the door and sexdrive starts. At this point the Mother will slowly give her child to the Father and He will teach it the world tru His eyes.
This releaves tthe Mother from her deep care and gives her a new place next to the Father and simultaniously the Child grows ann step by step exits the MAtrix and enters a new world in a safe manner
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Child grows ann step by step exits the MAtrix and enters a new world in a safe manner
DO you think this new world, outside of the matrix is an other simulation? Or you hope the humans finally can earn independent existence?

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Old 04-10-2018, 04:31 PM   #6
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Well if and when the child has wise parents, it should be able to start living from the childs OWN inner being. Whether or not this will be another somulation is up for the child to decide, change or conquer.
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Btw when this goes with love and care a cummunity has the possibilaty to get born. When this community grows big things start to feel like a new matrix due to the diversity in humans.

In the western world this form is getting destroyed for the benefit of tje ruling families. In other cultures this is what normal people depend upon instead of welfare etc.
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Whether or not this will be another somulation is up for the child to decide, change or conquer
So Do you think, fighting against the matrix, Is not fighting against the God, and the God let us to conquer and exit it?
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Well if you look at the abrahamic religions ie judaism, christianity and islam, it is said god has its throne ABOVE the skies. It also says god is something we cant understand ie is something that isnt and will never be part of our understanding and knowledge. It is also said, with a little difference in each religion that "satan" is given the right to rule earth/this realm. So the fight is not against God. Depending on what religion you gained knowledge/you grew up in satan is part of Gods team or not. Since ive studied all 3 and see islam as the last passing of knowledge i am of the believe that satan also works for God and not against God.

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What i do believe however is that fighting the matrix is healing your innerpains and struggles with life. How God can take us out and if God does i do not know. What i do know is that by using the abrahamic religions (or others, but i have much less knowledge on those) you are able to tap into things like mercy or grace but also wrath and vengeance.
So when you are aware of your mental system you can learn how to use it to benefit your life. Most people call that exiti g the matrix. To me its more like a new set of tools.
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So the fight is not against God.
So , Why all of the prophets ask us to obey the creator of the universe that can be considered as the host of the matrix?
why none of them ask us to fight against the nature and all of them ask us to protect the nature?
If the nature is rendering by the matrix, Fighting against the matrix may be very more harmful than fighting against the nature
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each religion that "satan" is given the right to rule earth/this realm
I know The satan has powers and rights for testing humans, but he is not the host of the matrix

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Simply because people wont listen. The Truth cant be spoken. When one tries it gets distorted so conveying Truth is done in stories parables, etc. The thing is with humans though tru every pair of eyes shines a different form of Truth. So when you take someone elses Truth as your own you loose you OWN connection with it and therefor also with nature.

Ive done my share of antinomianism and there seems to be a thin line between removing scars and destroying your outer world. So keeping the balance and knowing when to stop makes sure nature also gets preserved
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I know The satan has powers and rights for testing humans, but he is not the host of the matrix
Ah well then if one wants to one can take the road to alien lore and how some are fighting war over and sometimes on earth. Or one could take the djinn/demon route and find some helpfull ones or some who torture humans.

In the end its all about who rules earth/your life and since noone is king/potus/whatever of the world yet we have divine war everwhere, such is the nature of duality.
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Pythagoras, thought "we can digit every thing",many centuries ago
But for examples such as love, we can not use this rule. For solving this problem, We can use a philosophy about ghosts, The ghosts come from the God and will return to him and the love is depend on ghosts, But What we can see are just some 3D Rendered animations.

In the matrix, the God controlling the informations, our intelligence depend on our informations and our acts depend on our intelligence, so every act of us are depend on God.
In the matrix, no wish will be Reached, without God's wish because every force depend on God.
If it will be proven for every one that we live in the matrix: what will be happen to our believes and even religions,strange things such as ghosts , life after death and even final Judgment will seem possible, The god can see us everywhere however we can not see him anywhere

If the Morpheus ask us to obey him for fighting against the matrix, first he should proves that his experts, knowledge and his love to humankind is more than host of the matrix and he can prepare a better life than the matrix

In the second step He should proves that he can transfer us to outside of the matrix, Because in the matrix we can not escape from punishment of the matrix and our bodies and weapons are rendering by the matrix

If you trust Morpheus and he transfered you outside of the matrix:
How can be sure that by fighting against the matrix you will not harm the humans who live in the matrix?
If many peoples prefer to stay in the matrix, should you force them to go out?

Even if all of humans hate the matrix and can escape to outside of it, Should humans destroy the matrix and take the life of other species? Then Should the other species fight against the humans who want to take their life?
If humans decide to transfer other species to outside of the matrix, Can they transfer all of animals, fishs, plants, insects, bacterias and even viruses ?

Even if the humans can transfer all species of the earth to outside of the matrix, Then what about the other Galaxies, Should the humans destroy the matrix and all of Galaxies and other lifes in it, just for love of freedom?

A very important point in the matrix is the meaning of the zion, The zion is a promised peaceful land for Creatures freedom, but It is not Beyond the matrix because most of Creatures love the matrix as could as they understand, and if the matrix is simulated by God, then fighting against the matrix is fighting against the God, and will not lead us to God's promised land , and will not lead to peace. In the matrix, the Creature's freedom is specified by God and we can not wish an unlimited freedom

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Those are a lot of questions
Imo most of the time its a very individual path. So although one can work together, one has to be able to severly trust and have faith in ones self.

Right here and now we speak about god. For us in This point in time it seems to work. At the same time however others "see" us and judge us part of the christian matrix. Some might see that as evil and wonder if we are victims or rulers and are either ready to attack or save us.

Some wise ones might decide to stand with the ignorant crowd and leave us to ourselves, but over all light gets noticed in the dark. Is this then the God giving out punishment for being us or does the God bring us together in its mercy to learn frm each others beingness?

So walk with grace dear student and life will learn to dance along...

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Keanu Reeves as Klaatu in The Day the Earth Stood Still 2008 :
Dr. Benson: I need to know what's happening
Klaatu: This planet is dying. The human race is killing it.
Dr. Benson: So you've come here to help us.
Klaatu: No, I didn't.
Dr. Benson:You said you came to save us.
Klaatu: I said I came to save the Earth.
Dr. Benson:You came to save the Earth.... from us. You came to save the Earth from us.
Klaatu: We can't risk the survival of this planet for the sake of one species.
Dr. Benson: What are you saying?
Klaatu: If the Earth dies, you die. If you die, the Earth survives.
There are only a handful of planets in the cosmos that are capable of supporting complex life.
Dr. Benson: You can't do this.
Klaatu: This one can't be allowed to perish.
Dr. Benson: We can change. We can still turn things around.
Klaatu: We have watched. We have waited and hoped that you would change.
Dr. Benson: Please.
Klaatu: It has reached the tipping point. We have to act.
Dr. Benson: Please.
Klaatu: We will undo the damage you have done and give the Earth a chance to begin again.
Dr. Benson: Don't do this. Please, we can change. We can change.
Klaatu: The decision is made. The process has begun.

In The Day the Earth Stood Still 2008 Keanu Reeves as Klaatu is the savior of the earth:
He want to control the humans and force them to change in favor of rules and borders of life in the earth
He want to show the earth a world without the humans to undo the damage humans have done and give the Earth a chance to begin again
He fight against the humans for saving the life in the earth


Indeed Klaatu did not want to force the humans to change, But they hoped humans change, When they were disappointed and It has reached the tipping point. They have to act. To undo the damage humans have done and give the Earth a chance to begin again

After that conversiation with Dr. Benson , Klaatu meet The Professor Barnhardt



Professor Barnhardt: There must be alternatives. You must have some technology that could solve our problem.

Klaatu: Your problem is not technology. The problem is you. You lack the will to change.

Professor Barnhardt: Then help us change.

Klaatu: I cannot change your nature. You treat the world as you treat each other.

Professor Barnhardt: But every civilization reaches a crisis point eventually.

Klaatu: Most of them don't make it.

Professor Barnhardt: Yours did. How?

Klaatu: Our sun was dying. We had to evolve in order to survive.

Professor Barnhardt: So it was only when your world was threated with destruction that you became what you are now.

Klaatu: Yes.

Professor Barnhardt: Well that's where we are. You say we're on the brink of destruction and you're right. But it's only on the brink that people find the will to change. Only at the precipice do we evolve. This is our moment. Don't take it from us, we are close to an answer.


In the last part of the movie, the Klaatu said:" Your professor was right, At the precipice, we change"

And finally Klaatu stoped his fight against the humans and give them a new chance for change
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