Why Babies Cry - Page 2

screamingeagle · 12-01-2019, 05:17 PM

they are crying because,they know that eventualy they will have to get a job

Bill Hicks - Childbirth

https://youtu.be/Z7cO8pyvdRw

size_of_light · 12-01-2019, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by truegroup

Define "our energies". If the answer is that you don't know, consider that making up stuff is not impressive.

- Energy-winds of the subtle body.
- Negative thoughts and emotions.
- Sexual excitation.

Prana, chi, 'life-force' etc.

When you ask if I 'don't know', do you mean to imply that I don't know exactly how the process works?

You'd be 100% correct.

I'm basing it on my personal experiences (I've seen such entities and felt the draining effects), spiritual teachings, other ancient wisdom information, and anecdotal accounts communicated down through the centuries.

I have more confidence in the general accuracy of these things than I ever will in Brian Cox or James Oberg.

size_of_light · 12-01-2019, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by truegroup

Non measurable or detectable magic "plasma beings" in another dimension are deliberately annoying everybody to take undefined energy in immeasurable amounts. Of course.

With respect, you seem to 'feed' off a lot of negative emotion (i.e. energy) on this forum.

I can't criticise, as I've done that myself in the past.

The non-measurability and non-detectability of proposed entities with current scientific instrumentation doesn't negate their existence. It might imply a limitation of the technology, which is not a confirmation that they aren't real.

jupiter12 · 12-01-2019, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by screamingeagle

they are crying because,they know that eventualy they will have to get a job

Bill Hicks - Childbirth

https://youtu.be/Z7cO8pyvdRw

''Yeh ,, she said we're gonna have to get jobs ,, and work forever !!''

''No f***** way ,, ''

truegroup · 13-01-2019, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by size_of_light

With respect, you seem to 'feed' off a lot of negative emotion (i.e. energy) on this forum.

Nope. I would be joyously happy if I was able to get honest responses. In fact I think you have that arse backwards. I think many people who respond directly to me do so deliberately to frustrate.

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I can't criticise, as I've done that myself in the past.

It doesn't give me any energy

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The non-measurability and non-detectability of proposed entities with current scientific instrumentation doesn't negate their existence.

It doesn't help.

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It might imply a limitation of the technology, which is not a confirmation that they aren't real.

It could also indicate that the sightings/astral travel/whatever are indications of something going on in the brain.

truegroup · 13-01-2019, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by size_of_light

- Energy-winds of the subtle body.

Nothing about Buddhism suggests it isn't control of the brain.

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- Negative thoughts and emotions.
- Sexual excitation.

These are not energies - they are effects of stimuli.

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Prana, chi, 'life-force' etc.

Or consciousness. I've been down this route with a full backpack and marching boots.

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When you ask if I 'don't know', do you mean to imply that I don't know exactly how the process works?

You'd be 100% correct.

No, I mean the actual energy etc.

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I'm basing it on my personal experiences (I've seen such entities and felt the draining effects), spiritual teachings, other ancient wisdom information, and anecdotal accounts communicated down through the centuries.

Fine np. I'm doubting Thomas.

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I have more confidence in the general accuracy of these things than I ever will in Brian Cox or James Oberg.

I have the reverse position. I used to have yours.

hokuspokus · 13-01-2019, 07:42 PM

It hurts me no end but TG is correct . In this case.
Babies cry for attention. Food ,too hot\cold etc etc ...

size_of_light · 13-01-2019, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by truegroup

Nothing about Buddhism suggests it isn't control of the brain.

Control of the brain by what?

Control of the brain by the brain?

Like a car driving itself?

Do you mean self-control of the brain?

What is this 'self' that you must be claiming is controlling the brain?

And on and on it goes...

You're backing the wrong horse if you think it is ever going to be shown that the brain produces consciousness, and every neuroscientist knows it too, in the back of their...mind.

All the mainstream research seems to be going in the other direction.

Not that it's needed. 30 seconds of logical analysis should be enough for anyone to conclude that the brain is a process within consciousness, and not vice versa.

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These are not energies - they are effects of stimuli.

No, they're energies.

Anger, or sexual arousal, for example, generate a lot of energy, this is obvious.

size_of_light · 13-01-2019, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by truegroup

I think many people who respond directly to me do so deliberately to frustrate.
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It doesn't give me any energy

By frustrating you, are they draining you of energy?

elshaper · 13-01-2019, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by size_of_light

By frustrating you, are they draining you of energy?

TG is oblivious of course...
Too bad.

size_of_light · 13-01-2019, 08:26 PM

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TG is oblivious of course...
Too bad.

You just sucked another ounce of chi out of his system with that comment!

elshaper · 13-01-2019, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by size_of_light

You just sucked another ounce of chi out of his system with that comment!

I'll tell him a secret because I am a secret ingredient.

Listen TG
The point is....when someone pokes you, you are meant to keep cool, not to react with anger etc. You can easily do this if you can see it from way up above..from another dimension if you like... and also see funny side of the scenario. This is one way to defeat the vampires.

I tell you my story.
Someone wanted to keep me in the dark....as in dark, gloomy life etc...
Well what happened? I came to understand the darkness, the dark matter, the dark energy, 97% of the world...you...me...i.e. the Universe. Dark is GOOOOOD man.

I'd definitely put the above in a book called "Witchcraft gone wrong".

Can you see the funny side to this story?

I am a cheeky bugger.

screamingeagle · 13-01-2019, 08:50 PM

els you are the beast,you evil one.....

elshaper · 13-01-2019, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by screamingeagle

els you are the beast,you evil one.....

Cheers

truegroup · 14-01-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by elshaper

TG is oblivious of course...
Too bad.

As I said, I walked this route 25+ years ago - I know more about this than you could possibly comprehend.

truegroup · 14-01-2019, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by elshaper

I'll tell him a secret because I am a secret ingredient.

Listen TG
The point is....when someone pokes you, you are meant to keep cool, not to react with anger etc. You can easily do this if you can see it from way up above..from another dimension if you like... and also see funny side of the scenario. This is one way to defeat the vampires.

I tell you my story.
Someone wanted to keep me in the dark....as in dark, gloomy life etc...
Well what happened? I came to understand the darkness, the dark matter, the dark energy, 97% of the world...you...me...i.e. the Universe. Dark is GOOOOOD man.

I'd definitely put the above in a book called "Witchcraft gone wrong".

Can you see the funny side to this story?

I am a cheeky bugger.

Piffle.

Thank you for your oh so enlightened and patronising comment. Whatever makes you think that my "frustration" is at any level that doesn't simply make me just roll my eyes upwards and laugh? My tone in response is not made with me steaming out of my ears, it is frequently made with a wry smile on my face. In life I am nothing whatsoever like my posting style and I think you are a little confused if you think the internet and social/forum comments on it are representative of reality.

truegroup · 14-01-2019, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by size_of_light

By frustrating you, are they draining you of energy?

No.

truegroup · 14-01-2019, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by size_of_light

Control of the brain by what?

Control of the brain by the brain?

Like a car driving itself?

Do you mean self-control of the brain?

What is this 'self' that you must be claiming is controlling the brain?

And on and on it goes...

Consciousness.

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You're backing the wrong horse if you think it is ever going to be shown that the brain produces consciousness, and every neuroscientist knows it too, in the back of their...mind.

All the mainstream research seems to be going in the other direction.

I'm not backing any horse.

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Not that it's needed. 30 seconds of logical analysis should be enough for anyone to conclude that the brain is a process within consciousness, and not vice versa.

Please don't do that, use the logical analysis of your BRAIN to conclude that.

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No, they're energies.

Your opinion. Np.

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Anger, or sexual arousal, for example, generate a lot of energy, this is obvious.

Did your brain work that one out

Just to say - there is no resolution to this exchange, it is largely a belief system you are talking about and one that I am fully aware of, as I wore it like a badge of honour for almost a decade.

I do find it funny when it gets pointed out to me by people who have just discovered it (not you - do not take that the wrong way).

size_of_light · 14-01-2019, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by truegroup

Consciousness.
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Just to say - there is no resolution to this exchange, it is largely a belief system you are talking about and one that I am fully aware of, as I wore it like a badge of honour for almost a decade.

Can you point to anything that isn't within consciousness?

truegroup · 14-01-2019, 11:58 AM

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Can you point to anything that isn't within consciousness?

The entire function of the body. You don't consciously pump blood through your heart or any one of a million little things all going on.

What has this to do with "energy vampires"?

13-01-2019, 07:42 PM	#27
hokuspokus Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 2,457 Likes: 449 (272 Posts)	It hurts me no end but TG is correct . In this case. Babies cry for attention. Food ,too hot\cold etc etc ...