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Old 18-04-2018, 10:19 PM   #21
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https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=GHGS5R6MSG2W

We are supposed to believe this clown took out his credit card, punched in his details on his lap top to buy air time so he could transmit his experience on Facebook!

All this BEFORE he put on his oxygen mask and while a woman was hanging out of the window and the plane was plummeting to earth!

Yeah! Right!

Annotation in the vid..."yeah I can't believe it either..."

I mean, if she had the seat belt on, it would have been her face/neck that would have been sucked out?!
Then obviously there would be blood smeared around broken window I'd imagine. I mean, the witness said blood was everywhere....that you can't see. It's a bit like global warming....it's getting so hot that ice in antarctica is thickening etc....

Anyway, his mask isn't even over his nose.

Oh no.... his photo....standing in front of the UN Climate Change sign....
Actor by any chance?

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Old 18-04-2018, 10:21 PM   #22
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Stock photo, by any chance?
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Old 18-04-2018, 10:26 PM   #23
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Stock photo, by any chance?
Good point but on bbc page it says "Passenger images shows a broken window and oxygen masks deployed" so... it must be the very window.
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Old 18-04-2018, 10:32 PM   #24
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So what do you think the purpose of this 'incident' then?
Another terrorist attack?!
They haven't pulled that one quick enough this time? They usually say it's a terrorist attack before even proper investigation is done.
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Old 18-04-2018, 10:35 PM   #25
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Oh a heart attack - I was wondering if her organs had been sucked out of her body - that would make every plane crash film wrong.... poor woman either way.
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Old 18-04-2018, 10:39 PM   #26
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Oh a heart attack - I was wondering if her organs had been sucked out of her body - that would make every plane crash film wrong.... poor woman either way.
Is it possible that her heart came out of her mouth? May be she choked by her own heart which got stuck somewhere in her mouth??

Surely you are not believing this savvy Sabrina?
So many holes....so shoddy.
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Old 18-04-2018, 10:45 PM   #27
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Is it possible that her heart came out of her mouth? May be she choked by her own heart which got stuck somewhere in her mouth??

Surely you are not believing this savvy Sabrina?
So many holes....so shoddy.
What bit don't you believe?
I thought the guy posting images of himself and passengers holding the oxygen masks over their mouths and not the nose was pretty weird.

Surely they know how the masks work they were literally just told what to do....


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Old 18-04-2018, 11:00 PM   #28
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Old 18-04-2018, 11:27 PM   #29
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The woman at the window died of a heart attack...why should there be blood and why can't some of the other people taken to hospital be the ones struck by incoming objects?


Again, why should that woman be covered in blood? Bruised maybe from being pushed against the frame, but why blood?
No one said she should be. The WITNESS in the OP link said it.
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Old 18-04-2018, 11:30 PM   #30
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Yep. First accurate post.
Out of context quoting is baiting.

It was obvious my comment was ironic and you treating as literal is baiting.
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Old 18-04-2018, 11:32 PM   #31
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ALSO another iffy point I've spotted now.
IF the window was smashed IN, where are the shard of glasses?
Did they hoover it up already and cleaned up blood?
Bearing in mind, the photo was taken by another passenger....
Good point.

And the window is really small as well. Try pulling a human out of that in a hurry.
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Old 18-04-2018, 11:41 PM   #32
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Good point.

And the window is really small as well. Try pulling a human out of that in a hurry.
She did have a seatbelt on according to the guy who was interviewed.
I'd say, try to stick your head out but shoulders? That's a pretty small window.
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Old 19-04-2018, 07:07 AM   #33
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Out of context quoting is baiting.

It was obvious my comment was ironic and you treating as literal is baiting.
Bullshit. It's MY context! I chose to interpret your post literally.
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Old 19-04-2018, 07:09 AM   #34
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No one said she should be. The WITNESS in the OP link said it.
No he did not! He saw a woman being taken out and said there was blood everywhere.

YOU are defining the context of his statement and I asked you why!

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Old 19-04-2018, 07:32 AM   #35
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ALSO another iffy point I've spotted now.
IF the window was smashed IN, where are the shard of glasses?
Did they hoover it up already and cleaned up blood?
Bearing in mind, the photo was taken by another passenger....


Yeah because they just bung in glass windows that create shards when they break

Small suggestion. Use a search engine to research simple things like "what is an airplane window made of".
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Old 19-04-2018, 08:12 AM   #36
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It doesn't take a minute of armchair expert to figure out this could be 'iffy' since there is no blood in sight despite the witness commented that blood was everywhere.
Not necessarily. The victim would have been sucked out of the window in a flash due to the sudden decompression. Meaning it shouldn't come as any great surprise to not see any blood around the window. Any injuries the victim sustained would have probably started to bleed immediately after being sucked out of the widow.
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Not necessarily. The victim would have been sucked out of the window in a flash due to the sudden decompression. Meaning it shouldn't come as any great surprise to not see any blood around the window. Any injuries the victim sustained would have probably started to bleed immediately after being sucked out of the widow.
I want to know how they didn't all pass out without oxygen masks on properly...
Maybe the woman that got sucked out had no oxygen.

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Old 19-04-2018, 08:47 AM   #38
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I want to know how they didn't all pass out without oxygen masks on properly...
Maybe the woman that got sucked out had no oxygen.
Even at cruising altitude there is time to put your mask on. There are may, many documented cases of this happening. This event took place well under cruising altitude.

(I think it's fascinating how/why people who weren't there, don't know anyone who was there, have only got the information through incomplete reports and panicked/confused participants, yet need to construct all sorts of stories. Yes, weird shit happens. Sometimes there are hidden hands at work, but usually it's just very bad luck. Apparently conspiracy construction fills the need for some to comprehend a world where stuff just happens over which we have no control.)


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Even at cruising altitude there is time to put your mask on. There are may, many documented cases of this happening. This event took place well under cruising altitude.

(I think it's fascinating how/why people who weren't there, don't know anyone who was there, have only got the information through incomplete reports and panicked/confused participants, yet need to construct all sorts of stories. Yes, weird shit happens. Sometimes there are hidden hands at work, but usually it's just very bad luck. Apparently conspiracy construction fills the need for some to comprehend a world where stuff just happens over which we have no control.)


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Well personally I just want to know what she died of as there are different stories. Yes people make stuff up in panic situations and to make themselves more important. But I've yet to know why she died. Although being half sucked out of a plane gives me a good idea - did she survive that and have a heart attack later or was she injured?

And also if not putting masks on properly over mouth and nose is what people do in panic - and if you can pass out from only having it over your mouth (as in the photos) - luckily they were ok.
I like to learn from others mistakes.

How is that a conspiracy? Wanting to know the truth.

The female pilot was amazing and talked to each passenger afterwards. Hopefully other pilots will learn from her example.

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Old 19-04-2018, 09:21 AM   #40
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Well personally I just want to know what she died of as there are different stories. Yes people make stuff up in panic situations and to make themselves more important. But I've yet to know why she died.
Blunt trauma.

https://news.sky.com/story/woman-suc...rauma-11337298

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And also if not putting masks on properly over mouth and nose is what people do in panic - and if you can pass out from only having it over your mouth (as in the photos) - luckily they were ok.
I like to learn from others mistakes.
Atmospheric pressure is about 30%. You just need to breath through the oxygen mask a reasonable amount of the time to get enough oxygen for your lungs.
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