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Old 02-09-2013, 06:34 PM   #1
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Thumbs down Reincarnation is not your friend!

Reincarnation does exist, but it is not for our benefit. Galactic historian and akashic records reader Andrew Bartzis explained that the negative entities who manipulate our reality created reincarnation when they took over the earth after the fall of Atlantis to keep us from ascending into higher realms of consciousness.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:41 PM   #2
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Reincarnation does exist, but it is not for our benefit. Galactic historian and akashic records reader Andrew Bartzis explained that the negative entities who manipulate our reality created reincarnation when they took over the earth after the fall of Atlantis to keep us from ascending into higher realms of consciousness.

There are stories, scripts, beliefs, myths, fables, parables, lore,
but who is the perceiver, believer and story-teller?

Know thyself.
What is soul, atman, true self:
http://thecrowhouse.com/forum/viewto...art=30#p100536


While I do not know nor care who Andrew Bartzis is and corresponding belief systems,
realise it is not any external entity that is limiting self, limiting consciousness,
it is one's choice of what to beLIEve that will either liberate or limitate self.


Limiting and fear mongering belief systems is not your friend!


Realise through introspection and experiences that self is not the
ego/person/persona, and light-body vehicle.
Through phasing, dreaming, meditation one can know oneself to be
the creator of own subjective reality; both the dreamer and the dream.
It is one's state of mind, the sum of belief systems, self definitions,
emotions
and intent that directs one's play in mind.

The process of re-in-carn-ation, that is re-in-flesh-action
is only a temp-oral (temple-words) body vehicle/expression for consciousness to act (role-play) and have experiences.
When one is aware of more of the totality of one's experiences,
then the idea of reincarnation is experienced every event
when one experiences another light-body expression***

Consider all reality frames, during meditation, phasing, out of body experiences,
after death experiences, dreams, remote viewing .
What is transient?
[The light body expression/persona, time-story paradigm, landscape/mindscape?]
What is the common substrate?
[Self, awareness, I am, atman.]

***From this perspective the idea of reincarnation is re-birth or re-death of one's ego/persona.
In essence it is a shifting of one's perception.
Relative to the realty frame/dream/paradigm (all metaphors) one is experiencing,
one can redefine oneself accordingly.
Hence the idea of our multi-dimensional self arises when one is more aware of the totality of our experiences.


Jurgen Ziewe & author of the book - Multidimensional Man, shares his experiences.
An ongoing investigation into out-of-body states of consciousness and multidimensional realities.
http://www.multidimensionalman.com/M...ter_death.html


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Old 03-09-2013, 04:15 PM   #3
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Reincarnation does exist, but it is not for our benefit. Galactic historian and akashic records reader Andrew Bartzis explained that the negative entities who manipulate our reality created reincarnation when they took over the earth after the fall of Atlantis to keep us from ascending into higher realms of consciousness.
i dont understand why the ethicless beings who manipulate re-incarnation are able to do so! it seems illogical
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Old 03-09-2013, 05:53 PM   #4
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'Reincarnation' implies a reincarnating Self.

There is no such thing.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:19 PM   #5
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Robert Monroe said not to go into the white light. He said to look around for a gold light instead, and head towards that.

Others say just go into the darkness.
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Old 03-09-2013, 10:34 PM   #6
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Reincarnation seems a done deal IMO.
Plenty of folks believe in it, others don't so no point citing 'evidence' as that tends to be more about belief in some one else's narrative rather than direct experience ( apart from the narrator's).
I don't think that reincarnation's necessarily compulsory though.
When folk get fed up ' over there' then they can come back for another ride on the roundabout on this side of life, if they choose to do so.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:04 PM   #7
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Robert Monroe said not to go into the white light. He said to look around for a gold light instead, and head towards that.

Others say just go into the darkness.
You are the light and the dark. Go into self.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:32 PM   #8
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What is it that is reincarnating, though?

What relation do you, as you are now, have towards the person you may have been, in your last life? What memory? What remained of that person?

The false-self wants to continue, but it dies. Change is a keynote of reality. Only the changeless is deathless.
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:39 PM   #9
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It's the 'spirit' ( soul if you must) that's eternal.
Who we 'really' are.
Much of what passes for 'self' on this side of life is just an old overcoat of impressions, reactions and contexts all mashed up with upbringing.
Those all serve some purpose in spiritual development but they don't constitute spiritual development of themselves.
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It's the 'spirit' ( soul if you must) that's eternal.
Who we 'really' are.
Much of what passes for 'self' on this side of life is just an old overcoat of impressions, reactions and contexts all mashed up with upbringing.
Those all serve some purpose in spiritual development but they don't constitute spiritual development of themselves.
And of what is this 'spirit' made?
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:22 AM   #11
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From the documents I saw when my great grandfather was Keeper of the Seals and Achieves, it can go both ways. There were some that had good characteristics that ran through the soul’s journey and some that where not so good like "always a traitor" and "always a coward" which would be hard to break. Of course there was good ones like "always an artist" and etc.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:42 PM   #12
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Old 08-09-2013, 09:13 AM   #13
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Reincarnation is neutral in concept, I believe

However reincarnating into a world similar or even this world is certainly a bad choice

Where there is pain, suffering, elitism and fear

I believe there are worlds that are worse and better than ours or even much the same but there is little good this planet has for any of us other to those who are on top and like the concept of survival and pyramid system based realities

I think all that there is to learn and do is already done for me here when I die I am not returning unless I return to this earth when it is in a better state than now if anyone tells you that reincarnating to earth is good for your education then they are seriously talking bullshit there are other realities out there that you can experience for knowledge, and pretty much anything else... use your heads people...
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:26 PM   #14
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Reincarnation does exist, but it is not for our benefit. Galactic historian and akashic records reader Andrew Bartzis explained that the negative entities who manipulate our reality created reincarnation when they took over the earth after the fall of Atlantis to keep us from ascending into higher realms of consciousness.
Correct. We are unfortunately in an endless loop, until we can escape this earth prison. Ah well, we try to make the best of it i guess.
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Robert Monroe said not to go into the white light. He said to look around for a gold light instead, and head towards that.

Others say just go into the darkness.
Or purple i think as well.
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Old 08-09-2013, 02:28 PM   #16
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And of what is this 'spirit' made?
Ectoplasm
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:09 PM   #17
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[Just replied to another Reincarnation Thread in another forum.
so I'll just copy and paste here ]



What is Reincarnation?

When one breaks down the word
re-in-carn-ation
yield
re-in-flesh-action

From this perspective reincarnation implies an experience in another body/flesh vehicle.

I hesitate to write another life because this implies one ceased to exist, ceased to be aware
and yet somehow re-vitalised self again.


We have one life which is continuous.
We exist now and thus we are omnipresent.
Like clothes, we may change form and appearances, but the self, awareness is omnipresent.

Perceiving linear time, beginning and ending depends on the story context in a time-space reality.
One can experience no ageing, just summer-time, no need to be born as an infant.
When there is no body awareness, no story context and no change of appearance and form,
one experiences no time as self is the only reference. [Reference to void experience].

The light body, our temple is a temp-orary vehicle for having experiences.
What sort of experiences?
This depends on the scope of imagination, one's attachments, desires, intents and belief systems.
For example those that have strong religious beliefs in a doctrinated heaven and hell
may choose through their expectations to experience 'Belief System Territories'
such as Hollow Heavens and Hells > Bruce Moen:http://www.afterlife-knowledge.com/hvnhl.html
Similarly if one has karma moral self judgement beliefs, one may expect, intend and will such
paradigms for self to experience.

There is a belief of Numbered Realities such as 4th density, 5th density, 6th density etc.
The labelling of realities as numbered dimensions and densities does not attribut any
specific qualities except to the original conceiver of paradigm and believers of corresponding paradigm.
eg. Ra - Law of One. Linear graduation Ascension model of soul progression.
Those that like the idea and lack imagination can experience that which they choose to believe.
However this is not an absolute.

Realities can have various attribute labels and categories which facilitate memory filing
and recall in a similar way one groups books and movies according to genre, titles,
subject matter etc. and files-subdirectories on a computer server.

At the personal level, it is more relevant to re-member those experiences that you prefer
during your phasing experience including OOBEs, lucid dreams, vivid dreams and
decide if you would like to experience elements of that again.
Consider the following:
Light body expression, density experience, sexual Persuasion, need to consume food/drink or not,
story-time context, community organisation style, technology availabel etc.
In short, design your own You-in-verse and pick an avatar

More ideas. Here of other reality frames/dreams/paradigms (all metaphors)
sourced from books written by authors including Michael Newton, Dolores Cannon, Robert Monroe
http://www.in5d.com/forum/index.php?topic=2564.0


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Old 15-09-2013, 07:29 AM   #18
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Correct. We are unfortunately in an endless loop, until we can escape this earth prison. Ah well, we try to make the best of it i guess.
I agree we are in a loop of lots or less suffering until we are freed.
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Robert Monroe said not to go into the white light. He said to look around for a gold light instead, and head towards that.

Others say just go into the darkness.
The first person I've heard say this was Bobby Hemmitt in a lecture in the early 90"s. He was saying that the white light was actually a trick. Then I have also heard in the N.H. Library that there are different levels that you must pass and the "white light" was the first level to prove your nosis and if you failed at any level you would automatically reincarnate back into flesh for you to start over. Either way, I would say that reincarnation is a VERY BAD thing because if it was truly a learning experience than you would automatically remember your past lives upon arrival and not have your memory filtered each time.
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Old 21-10-2013, 08:45 PM   #20
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Reincarnation does exist, but it is not for our benefit. Galactic historian and akashic records reader Andrew Bartzis explained that the negative entities who manipulate our reality created reincarnation when they took over the earth after the fall of Atlantis to keep us from ascending into higher realms of consciousness.
Cobra mentioned how Illuminati control the reincarnation process.Not good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWw4epEgKN4
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