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Old 05-04-2018, 01:19 PM   #21
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A wave is big. A particle suggests something small. of course size is relative.
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Old 06-04-2018, 07:52 AM   #22
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Atoms don't exist: no less a man than Nikolai tesla said this. Quantum theory is being gradually debunked

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Atoms don't exist: no less a man than Nikolai tesla said this.
Who told you this nonsense?

https://prezi.com/j7bfc3yk_-2c/tesla-and-the-atom/

"A fact not known to many was that Tesla also experimented with Atoms. Tesla demonstrated the structure of atoms as being similar to solar systems and particle-like aspects to what later became known as the photon. Tesla differed with Einstein with quantum physics in his view of the structure of particles and the possible consequences caused by the smashing of atoms. “I have disintegrated atoms in my experiments with a high potential vacuum tube… operat[ing] it with pressures ranging from 4,000,000 to 18,000,000 million volts"


So no less a man than Tesla says they DO exist. What do you say to that?

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Not really accurate. It evolves with each step. It doesn't disprove the atom If anything it is being simplified, which can't be a bad thing.
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Old 06-04-2018, 12:18 PM   #24
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Look on the site of the angry photographer on you tube he has published books on field theory. Do a search on you tube angry photographer quantum mechanics
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The medium is the ether
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Common courtesy once again fails on this forum. It seems almost every person around here has no capacity to accept they were wrong!

Tesla....atoms....you were wrong. Kindly admit this, it's a human strength....show it.

There is no ether.
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Take a look at the videos then comment it is very surprizing. If there isn't ether what is there quantum fluid? That is another name for the same thing. I have watched a particular video it is sooooo funny!
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Look on the site of the angry photographer on you tube he has published books on field theory. Do a search on you tube angry photographer quantum mechanics
He's great I've subscribed! Thanks
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Old 06-04-2018, 06:23 PM   #29
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Take a look at the videos then comment it is very surprizing. If there isn't ether what is there quantum fluid? That is another name for the same thing. I have watched a particular video it is sooooo funny!
No. Take a look at my reply to your claim about atoms. Respond
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I do not know enough about physics to be able to say one way or the other based on my own knowledge. My knowledge of chemistry is such that it would take something drastic to change my view of things. However, things start from getting simple to more complex not the other way around. We start with simple planet like orbitals then get electron clouds and probability then quantum mechanics and string theory it seem MORE complex not less. This suggests that the train of thought might be in the wrong direction
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I am very surprised with your statements about Tesla. I will have to look into this more carefully but it is definitely at odds with what I have come across. In the meantime while I check out your comments do me the courtesy of looking at the video I suggested. The man has published work which is FREE! He may not be mainstream but then the whole purpose of these forums is not mainstream either. It is to find alternatives and explore them
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There appears to be something contradictory. On the one hand I did find an article referring to what you said but on the other Tesla is said to have dismissed the idea of the electrons existence so what kind of an atom do we have?
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There appears to be something contradictory. On the one hand I did find an article referring to what you said but on the other Tesla is said to have dismissed the idea of the electrons existence so what kind of an atom do we have?
Yes, but come on, he died in 1943. Hardly cutting edge investigative machinery was available. There is nothing wrong with someone disputing something that far back. The point is you won't find many who agree with him now. He didn't believe in the energy from splitting an atom.....way wrong.

I watched enough of that blokes videos to shake my head a few times. Each to their own
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I do not know enough about physics to be able to say one way or the other based on my own knowledge. My knowledge of chemistry is such that it would take something drastic to change my view of things. However, things start from getting simple to more complex not the other way around. We start with simple planet like orbitals then get electron clouds and probability then quantum mechanics and string theory it seem MORE complex not less. This suggests that the train of thought might be in the wrong direction
Yes, but quantum theory itself does appear to be getting more simplified.

https://www.sciencealert.com/new-evi...ntum-mechanics
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Nothing is real. Doesn't stop them manifesting as real though.

You may want to know that Dr Lawrence Krauss is a possible rapist and said he had done away with God with his theory that the universe came from nothing.

Which is a lie that many have believed.
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