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Old 20-11-2008, 07:33 PM   #81
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No, I expected the steel building to slow down the forward motion of the plane.
Ha ha ha.
If you were falling and hit the water from a great height do you splash or hit the water like concrete graflok? So if a less dense material comes in contact at high speed with a less dense material at stationary rest, what happens?
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Old 20-11-2008, 07:42 PM   #82
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If you were falling and hit the water from a great height do you splash or hit the water like concrete graflok?
Never tried it from a great height but the WTC wasn't made of water and I'm
not a Boeing 767 so I don't see the point in exploring that scenario. However,
in my experience, diving into water has caused my forward motion to slow
down. Yet the "plane" that "hit" the WTC tower didn't seem to slow at all.
Hence my comment that it was a bad special effect.

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So if a less dense material comes in contact at high speed with a less dense material at stationary rest, what happens?
A less dense material coming in contact with a less dense material? What does
that mean? Less dense than what?
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Old 20-11-2008, 07:42 PM   #83
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No, I expected the steel building to slow down the forward motion of the plane.
Ha ha ha.
ha ha ha, dream on..... .

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Old 20-11-2008, 07:46 PM   #84
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ha ha ha, dream on..... .
Personal comments aside ...

What is your reply to the observation that a plane should be expected
to slow down while crashing through a steel building?
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Old 20-11-2008, 07:48 PM   #85
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A less dense material coming in contact with a less dense material? What does
that mean? Less dense than what?
No it's a high speed less dense material coming into contact with a less dense no speed material. You should know the answer. I don't think you want to answer though.
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Old 20-11-2008, 07:54 PM   #86
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Personal comments aside ...

What is your reply to the observation that a plane should be expected
to slow down while crashing through a steel building?
I'd also like to hear your observation.....

I my self know for a fact a plane going 500mph would not slow down
going through a steel structure. It would be impossible for that to happen..
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Old 20-11-2008, 08:31 PM   #87
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I'd also like to hear your observation.....

I my self know for a fact a plane going 500mph would not slow down
going through a steel structure. It would be impossible for that to happen..
No, certainly NOT impossible qas.....according to video footage we are expected to believe was how it happened, it DID slow down.....in fact it stopped dead right inside the building, so its not impossible at all (apparently) for a plane going 500mph to stop dead in its tracks, but what graflok was meaning is why didn't the plane show signs of stopping as soon as it hit the outside layer of the building? The initial impact must surely have caused some halt in the air-speed. Instead it seems to keep going at the same speed and stop dead-bang in the middle of the building! Now to me THAT seems impossible, and I can see why people are wondering what the heck that's all about.

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Old 20-11-2008, 09:14 PM   #88
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No, certainly NOT impossible qas.....according to video footage we are expected to believe was how it happened, it DID slow down.....in fact it stopped dead right inside the building, so its not impossible at all (apparently) for a plane going 500mph to stop dead in its tracks, but what graflok was meaning is why didn't the plane show signs of stopping as soon as it hit the outside layer of the building? The initial impact must surely have caused some halt in the air-speed. Instead it seems to keep going at the same speed and stop dead-bang in the middle of the building! Now to me THAT seems impossible, and I can see why people are wondering what the heck that's all about.
The kinetic energy of the speed transfers into the less dense state of the kinetic energy state of the building's wall which is at zero. The energy allows the outer force of the structure's welds to give way. Speed is the key, while a loss of speed only translates into the kinetic forces of the crash, the effect is the energy into the welds and outer wall, with the rest of the plane continuing to stay in motion. Think...what happens when sharp object like a nail is fired at a thick porous concrete drywall.
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Old 20-11-2008, 09:17 PM   #89
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This event was planned well before 911




And for those of you who do not understand kinetics?here is a short vid.



http://911review.com/articles/griffin/nyc1.html

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