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Old 10-12-2012, 05:23 PM   #1
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Some new theories are proposed about Atlantis and the their discovery of America. Ancient legends of both Central America and Egypt are explored in this rare document

http://thenephilimchronicles.blogspo...r-america.html
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:22 PM   #2
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Leif Ericson, or maybe Hy Brasil check that out
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:04 PM   #3
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I've given up on Atlantis. There are too many phonetically similar words all over the world. From Atzlan to Altai. Even Anti-deluvian is similar

People have written books claiming that Atlantis is everything from a celestial position which no longer exists because of precession, a sunken continent that is no the Azores, the North Pole as hyperborea or thule, either or both of the Americas, Antarctica, the South Pacific, Doggerland, North Africa, a submerged island near Spain, Ireland, Minoan Crete, the Persian Gulf, a continent that could fly, a spacecraft that was a winged disc, the Siberian steppe, the Himalayas before their upheaval, Mars, the moon, etc.

I've given up on it. If Plato's account is a literal account, if his account was accurate, if the straits of Gibraltar were the Pillars of Hercules, then Atlantis could be part of Spain, part of North Africa, the Azores, the Canaries, the British Isles, Antarctica, and that part of North America.

I'm leaning more toward a relocation of the Pillars of Hercules at a latter time creating this confusion. If that's the case than Atlantis could have been any Mediterranean island past Sicily. Sardinia, for example, is plausible. And the 'continent' could just be the rest of Europe and/or North Africa.
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Old 20-12-2012, 04:52 PM   #4
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Atlantis is explained in the ringing cedar books. Pretty sure its in the 1st book(Anastasia), so, look there for what it was, how it was, and why it ended. its pretty simple/straight forward really, also, why it is shrouded in mystery.
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Old 20-12-2012, 06:43 PM   #5
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Francis Bacon, the likely link between Rosicrucianism and British Freemasonry, alluded to the Americas as the "New Atlantis" in the early 1600's. Freemason Manley Hall flat out declares that America was intended to be the "New Atlantis" envisioned by the brotherhood. It was the prime place to establish their world superpower to lead the way in their Great Work, the NWO.

Any talk equating America with Atlantis stems from that and is little more than subtle propaganda, imo, because it conjures up an illusion that America has some divine right or "destiny", as Manley Hall puts it, to lead the world.

The Greeks talked about Atlantis because they also dreamed of world hegemony, & picked up where Babylon left off. If Atlantis never really existed, it's probably just a code for Babylon, imo..
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Old 21-12-2012, 04:28 AM   #6
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Plato was Greek

Greeks were not really aware of anything past Italy

I've recently realized that "Pillars of Hercules" does not exactly mean Straits of Gibraltar. If it did, Phoenicians would not have (unsuccessfully) sailed everywhere looking for them. Phoenicians who in three years sailed around Africa. They've also been between Italy and Sicily, Carthage and Sicily, the Black Sea, the Persian Gulf, and who knows what else on land.

Basically the identification with the Straits of Gibraltar with Plato's Atlantis is fucking stupid on the part of the "historians"

Which means Atlantis as an island would be within the Mediterranean (or possibly the Black Sea). In the Mediterranean, probably the submerged circular part of North Africa that Sicily is on. Maybe even Malta which has some pretty old shit on it. As for America, it factors nowhere in this.

Platonic Atlantis is not the South Pacific, South America, or even the Azores. For damn sure. Maybe, maybe at the extreme point of the theory it was Canada, Greenland, and the British Isles. I doubt it. It was probably Malta
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Old 24-12-2012, 10:25 PM   #7
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The Greeks talked about Atlantis because they also dreamed of world hegemony, & picked up where Babylon left off. If Atlantis never really existed, it's probably just a code for Babylon, imo..
I am not so sure about that.

I think Plato left hints, but his dating was probably wrong.

He said it was located behind the pillars of Herakles(Gibraltar).

In my view, I find it likely that
a) atlantis was a global civilization
b) the heartland was located what is known as Antarctica

Others speculate that Atlantis was Troy or Carthage being an Atlantean outpost.

The harbour of Carthage actually fits the concentric 3 ring description of Plato.

Here is a reconstruction attempt:





If the thesis was true, the 3 Punic wars would get a new drift and meaning.

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I will send you a PM with some link you need to translate somehow. It relates to Carthage.

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Old 05-01-2013, 12:53 PM   #8
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Atlantis was a mostly European global-trading hub prior to the rising oceans that flooded great tracts of land.
The Greeks may of wrote it as island to fit into the new history books showing Greece as the top dog in the world following the previous cataclysm.

A freemason gave a long lecture (posted recently on youtube) years ago about Atlantis launching a campaign of global conquest and failing but leaving three armies (with no homeland) stranded in Europe, The Middle East and Northern Asia.

This may be why we get the sudden arrival of Greece on the scene in 1500 BC and settling down in about 800 BC etc.
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Old 05-01-2013, 06:39 PM   #9
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If Plato's account is a literal account, if his account was accurate
But Plato was a philosopher, not an historian. The motive for creating the tale of Atlantis to be found in "Critias" and "Timaeus" was to warn contemporary Athenians about the dangers of moral degeneration. So while there's "truth" - of a philosophical sort - in these accounts, it's not necessarily accompanied by abundant amounts of historical and geological accuracy. In order to make a philosphical point, Plato was making up a story:
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:45 PM   #10
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Plato was Greek

Greeks were not really aware of anything past Italy
Nonsense. Who do you think founded Marseille?
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:51 PM   #11
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Some new theories are proposed about Atlantis and the their discovery of America. Ancient legends of both Central America and Egypt are explored in this rare document

http://thenephilimchronicles.blogspo...r-america.html
yes

the Narmer Pallete is a map of a location in North America


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Old 06-01-2013, 09:53 PM   #12
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map of Atlantis:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...-_DSC08150.JPG
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Old 21-05-2013, 11:12 AM   #13
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Some new theories are proposed about Atlantis and the their discovery of America. Ancient legends of both Central America and Egypt are explored in this rare document

http://thenephilimchronicles.blogspo...r-america.html

dear moundbulder,

this document is gone? do you know where it went?

thanks
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