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The Vatican Observatory (Specola Vaticana) is an astronomical research and educational institution supported by the Holy See. Originally based in Rome, it now has headquarters and laboratory at the summer residence of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, and an observatory at the Mount Graham International Observatory in the United States.

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The Director of the Observatory is Fr. José Gabriel Funes, SJ. Many distinguished scholars have worked at the Observatory. In 2008, the Templeton Prize was awarded to cosmologist Fr. Michał Heller, a Vatican Observatory Adjunct Scholar. In 2010, the George Van Biesbroeck Prize was awarded to former observatory director Fr. George Coyne, SJ

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The Church has had long-standing interests in astronomy, due to the astronomical basis of the calendar by which holy days and Easter are determined. For instance, the Gregorian Calendar, promulgated in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII, was developed by the Jesuit mathematician Christoph Clavius at the Collegio Romano from astronomical data.

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False flag operations are covert operations designed to deceive the public in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colours; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and can be used in peace-time.



The suicide bomber who killed SEVEN CIA agents in Afghanistan was an al-CIA Da double agent, US Murderoch MSM reports say.

He is said to have been a doctor from JORDON, arrested there a year ago.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8440535.stm
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157193

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Roman Tauroctony of Mithras from ~200BC ??

Note also the castrating scorpion and the feasting dog and snake.
And the Phrygian cap!

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I live in a village 12 miles or so outside of Liverpool and last Wednesday night, David Beckham was spotted eating in the local village restaurant.

This struck me as odd as he played for LA Galaxy on the Saturday before and was due to play the following Saturday.

Although the restaurant is very nice it is hardly worth travelling half the way round the world and back for so I began thinking of other motives Beckham could have for being in the region.

http://loyolahall.co.uk/

This place is less than 1 mile away from the restaurant so am wondering if he may have been undertaking some training at the centre?
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The Vatican Observatory (Specola Vaticana) is an astronomical research and educational institution supported by the Holy See. Originally based in Rome, it now has headquarters and laboratory at the summer residence of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo, Italy, and an observatory at the Mount Graham International Observatory in the United States.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...x-Specola1.jpg

The Director of the Observatory is Fr. José Gabriel Funes, SJ. Many distinguished scholars have worked at the Observatory. In 2008, the Templeton Prize was awarded to cosmologist Fr. Michał Heller, a Vatican Observatory Adjunct Scholar. In 2010, the George Van Biesbroeck Prize was awarded to former observatory director Fr. George Coyne, SJ

Holy See
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The Church has had long-standing interests in astronomy, due to the astronomical basis of the calendar by which holy days and Easter are determined. For instance, the Gregorian Calendar, promulgated in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII, was developed by the Jesuit mathematician Christoph Clavius at the Collegio Romano from astronomical data.




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Yes, on the mention of one Jesuit mathematician named Christoph Clavius I post the facts of the real nature of The Jesuits and that their headquarters is right on the outside wall of The Vatican...The Most Powerful Man in the World?

The "Black" Pope... So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on the "conspiracy" playing field? You've maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the scenes.

You've gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite" families)—the Rothschilds in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional "master deceivers" commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their "fallen angel" cohorts.

4/15/00 RICK MARTIN
The SPECTRUM Newspaper, May 2000

Count Hans Kolvenbach -- The Jesuit's General
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/blackpope.htm

Oh! and that Video you tried to post, but was made to be gone...I think this may be it on/about Bad Moon Raising.
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Never say, I am but one person what can I do, as it has been a many of a one person that has changed the world for Good or ill...and YOU can too! & hopefully for Good. By, Ron D...The Spirit Force! As we all are & I can prove it!

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HOW ABOUT WE SEPARATE THE JESUITS FROM THE REAL JESUS...

Do you know that there are almost as many that worship God that worship Lucifer and or Satan? Don't be fooled by the great trickters Lucifer, as it is a known fact now this all had to of been created and who do you think did the creating...GOD DID and we all are made in His image and it is I that can and have proven it, as we all are a Spirit Being and or Living Ghost...which I have devised many of many ways that proves it to be so, as it all is so and that's the God's honest truth and provable by I, as I have said, and provable on a repeatable basis, at that!!

Don't be fooled and don't be FOOLISH!


You really think this all just happened to all fall into place, as it is? NO! It was all created and we all are playing in this "The Game of Life" where there are WINNERS & LOSERS and that is what God wants to know...are you a WINNER or a LOSER, as you play in this "The Game of Life" will tell the tale, but they both speak to you, as they both are right now...in your own Conscience and you know what is right and what is wrong...what is good and what is bad...how to be good and how to be bad, as it is evil and or Lucifer itself that speaks to you to not listen...he's a nut...there is no God, but yet also you hear God speak to you, as well, as He tells you what is good and right...what is bad and wrong and in your own Conscience you know it to be true...now, don't you?

Yes, who is it that says, as within your own Conscience...I shouldn't do that it's not right or now that I have done that it feels so good to do something good for another or others...Yes! Who is it that speaks to you, as within you?

Try this...If you don't believe or are not even yet sure The 24 Hour Test of Discernememt that realy works for you! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

OK, this is how to be able to learn how to discern the difference between when God is speaking to you or when evil is speaking to you...

First, you have to be honest with yourself and if you can't be honest with yourself...who can you be? So, do this for a 24 hour time period...try your best to be good, do good, be right and do right in everything you do and especially in how you think, as in how you let yourself think...good, right or bad and wrong in your thoughts.

OK, most people can't make it for more than one hour...before they have thought a bad or wrong thing or did as much of something that is bad or wrong...but here is the thing of this, a learned ability of being able to discern the difference between when God speaks to you or when evil is speaking to you, as they both do, as you will find out, for sure, if you can make it through a 24 hour time period of not doing anything bad or wrong nor thinking anything bad or wrong about whatever. So, as you catch yourself doing/being or even thinking things bad or wrong...make a note of what it was you know you did bad or wrong in and you will have to start over this 24 hour time frame period of discernment...till you can complete a 24 hour session without being or doing anything bad or wrong...after time you will begin to realize just how much evil is within you and has a hold on what you do, are, think and even how you think, to a certain extent, but one that means everything to and for you...in this The Game of Life, but after awhile, of this type of a test for you and an ability to learn this discernment between God and evil when they speak to you, you will easily begin to know and realize when either God is speaking to you, within your conscience mind, or when evil is...thus, you will have learned how to discern the difference when God speaks to you or when evil is speaking to you.

Try it and I can guarantee you will be amazed at how much evil is within you and speaking to you and really misleading you in many of many ways you didn't even know of or gave a second thought about...until you've completed this 24 hour test of discernment, as you will find out for yourself and but and I stress this point you have to honest with yourself now...then you will begin to understand, where you maybe didn't even think evil was within you and trying to mislead you but it is and does, as way much more than it does you're not even aware of, I am sure, but it is and does and it speaks to us all also, as you will find out because you can give this test to someone else...mention my name if you will, as the deviser and creator of this 24 hour test of discernment between both God and evil that speaks to us all...but once you start to learn how to block this evil out of your life and mind...you will start to be closer to God and be filled with The Holy Ghost, as you get rid of this evil more and even more so, that you may not of even knew or known that was within you and tricking you along....you will get filled with The Holy Ghost, as that is simple enough to understand...more evil out the more God can come in, as you make room for Him and to be filled with The Holy Ghost is to truly have REAL POWER of good and right...which will and does beat out bad and wrong...every time, trust me, I know and can prove that as well, among the many other things that can't be explained but only shown or proven to and for YOU! TY - Ron D...The Spirit Force, as YOU can be, as well...if you listen...when God speaks to YOU.

The ability to discern the difference between when God and evil speak to us is to truly get closer to God, as He wants to be so close within you and love you even the more so, as He will be able to love you the more so as well, if you will but only let Him by ridding yourself of evil He can, you see, as you are able to get and be close to Him, as within Him, as He is and will be more so within you, as that is to be more so filled with The Holy Ghost and you or anyone can take that as deep as you might like to take it, as within God, as you let Him within YOU!

Yes, The 24 hour test to get evil out of your life! and you will be amazed at how much it is in your life, as I have said, also...if you're honest with and within your own-self that is...Please! don't ever cheat yourself or of the good life just waiting for you...with the good and right in and of which is true and real power, in this The Game of Life, as where ever you have winners and losers...well, you have a game, the most important game you or anyone will ever play in, as this game is for all eternal and as I've said, nothing beats good and right, as it will win every time over bad and wrong...ever time! "Be a winner!" Don't be a loser in this The Game of Real Life! We are only here in the blink of time, as in comparison to the over all time frame of life thus far...and you have but only everything to lose.


The Ultimate Conspiracy - Dave Hunt and the Jesuit Attempt to Hijack the Christian FaithBy Michael Bunker


"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus." -- Ephesians 2:4-7

June 22, 2002 -- Too often we are not willing to ask the questions that cut to the root of the issues of the day. Our attentions are seized by shiny rocks and relics, by petty debates and well concocted mysteries -- so that, in the end, the greatest of all deceptions slides under the door unnoticed.

In the grand debate over whether homosexual, pedophilic priests should be demoted or defrocked, we are loathe to ask the deeper question: Do Catholics go to heaven? Or deeper still, Are YOU Catholic?

While Protestants silently chortle over the convulsions within the world's largest cult, few are willing to recognize that Catholic doctrine has so overwhelmed the "protestant" religion, that there is not a dimes worth of difference between the two. Why should we be shocked that the priests of the papacy are fondling boys behind closed doors, when they have boldly molested Protestant Church doctrine for the last several hundred years?

Excuse me Bishop Pedofili, can we see BOTH of your hands?

Behold, the Ultimate Conspiracy. While "remnant" Christians and patriots pour through the voluminous documentations of a wicked "New World Order", a far more heinous conspiracy marches forward unnoticed. In the confusion caused by the frantic attempt to expose the growing menace of fascistic globalism, the opponents of that antichrist system have willingly embraced the very theology of Antichrist.

We must start with some history, and there we will find the fingerprints of the last days Great Deception. Gather around and we will unveil the web of mystery and deceit that has ensnared the churches of the world.

JESUITS

The Jesuits (or, the Society of Jesus) are a Catholic order founded by the Spanish priest Ignatius Loyola, and ordained by Pope Paul III in September of 1540. Loyola had experienced continuing mystic "visions" beginning in 1523. In the visions, it was revealed to Loyola that he was to be the originator and the master of a grand army that would do battle with what he considered Babylonian hordes. Originally he believed that the enemy he was to battle was the Mohammedans (Muslims), but upon visiting Jerusalem and finding that his enemy was too great to overcome, he came to the conclusion that his enemy MUST be the Protestants. Loyola firmly believed that he had received this vision and this charge from the Blessed Virgin herself, so on the 15th of August in 1534, he, along with his disciples, traveled to the subterranean chapel of the Church of Montmartre, at Paris (which had been consecrated to Mary) where they pledged their services to the Pope, however he might choose to use them. The day was chosen because it was considered by Catholics to be the anniversary of the Assumption of the Virgin.

Loyola had prepared a book entitled "Spiritual Exercises". This was a rule book by which men could learn to work out their own "conversion". Through a mystic recipe, a penitent could utilize his mind, and by going through successive "exercises" he could be created into a "converted" warrior for the Pope. The Jesuits believed the claims of Loyola that the "exercises" was a book actually written by the finger of God, and delivered to Loyola by the Mother of God. Let us be perfectly clear, the order of Loyola truly believed that "conversion" could be affected upon oneself, and this put them in violent opposition to the doctrines of the Apostles as preached by the Protestant reformers.

The oath of the Jesuits to serve the Pope according to his pleasure, along with Loyola's vitriolic hatred of the doctrines of Grace, inevitably would lead to the Jesuit mission to effect a "counter-reformation" by declaring war on the true Christian faith. This mission is reflected in this excerpt of the Jesuit oath:

"I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus".

And so, by command (they believed) of the co-redemptress Mary, the Jesuits set out to use any and all means to attack and destroy the idea of salvation by Grace. The ultimate conspiracy was born.

The Doctrines of Grace

The centerpiece of the reformers' doctrine was out of the letter to the Ephesians. Paul had written, "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them." These verses, when read in their proper context, are odious to all those whose pride will not allow them to receive imputed righteousness. The scriptures plainly claim that: a) we are the workmanship, and not co-workers in our salvation, b) that those good works that are done by us, are not ours, but the works of God worked out through us, c) and that our salvation (including our faith) is a gift of God, and cannot be claimed as a "salary" or a reward for our good works.

What was worse for Loyola and his Catholic cohorts was that the people were beginning to receive the Bible in their "vulgar" tongues, and the doctrines of Grace were now being made evident to even the most ignorant of peasants. That the same book of Ephesians claimed (in Chapter 2, verses 5) that God had quickened his elect "Even when we were dead in sins", further complicated things for the Catholics. Because it was evident to even the uneducated ploughboy, that a sovereign God was totally responsible for salvation and redemption, and that those who had gained the inheritance (of salvation), had gained that inheritance by being "predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will" (Ephesians 1:11).

It was in 1536, two years after Loyola and his gang made their oaths in the church in Paris, that William Tyndale was martyred as a heretic for, among other things, denying the freedom of the will and for publishing the New Testament in English.

The Council of Trent, 1545

In 1545, the Council of Trent was convened by Pope Paul III. In this Council, the Catholic Church adopted a stance on Justification that was blatantly contrary to the scriptures. In Canon 9 of the Council, the church declared, "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema." During the Council, the Jesuits were ordered by the Pope to make war, silently and openly against the Reformation.

Planting Poison in the Well -- Jacobus Arminius.

The Counter-Reformation was in full swing. Jesuit spies and agents began to infiltrate Protestant schools, and actually landed on the coast of the United States in the 1530's and the 1540's. In order to defend the Romanist religion, as well as the Pope (who Catholics are taught is actually "Christ on earth"), the Jesuits began their war plan for a battle on many fronts, but a full attack on the Doctrines of Grace would be necessary if Rome was to ever prevail. In 1560, unknown to the Jesuits, one of their greatest proponents was to be born in Holland. His name was James Harmenszoon, but he would come to be known as Jacobus Arminius.

Arminius lost his family during a war with the Spanish in 1575. As a fifteen year old orphan, he entered the University of Leyden, and under scholarship by the government of the City of Amsterdam, he was sent to the Theological school in Geneva for studies at the feet of the great reformers. At Geneva, Arminius studied under a professor named Theodore Beza, the man who had assumed the leadership role of the Protestant movement in Switzerland from John Calvin. For some reason that seems to be lost to history, Arminius did not like Beza, and found his forceful defense of the Doctrines of Grace to be harsh and unyielding.

Here is where our mystery gets increasingly interesting. Back in Amsterdam there was a movement of "counter-reformation" begun supposedly by a rich merchant named Dirck Coornhert. Coornhert was a Dutch humanist who was enamored with the teachings of the Catholic humanist Erasmus and a Spanish Jesuit monk named Luis de Molina. Coornhert disdained the reformation teachings on Grace, and sought to confront them wherever he found them. Coornhert had read with growing affections the teachings of de Molina regarding Free Will and Predestination. The Jesuits had hit on a brilliant way of dismantling the debate, they would preach that BOTH were true, and that a good God who was truly sovereign surely might have given his creations a freedom of the will in order to allow them to choose to be saved. Luis de Molina was creating a doctrine that would eventually be called Media Scientia or "Middle-Knowledge". Eventually this heresy would be called Molinism. In an article on Luis de Molina entitled, Contending for the Faith, Rev. Bernard Woudenberg said of de Molina, "Being a Romanist, he was forced to honor the theology of Thomas Aquinas with its acceptance of divine sovereignty, but at the same time, as a Jesuit, he was committed to defending the papacy against the growing influences of Calvinism. And so de Molina set forth to steer between these by proposing his original and highly influential concept of the media scientia, or "middle- knowledge." In this he proposed that "between God's knowledge of the cause and effect relations which He had implanted in the universe, and that of divine freedom whereby He remains free at any time to do what He wills, there is an area of middle-knowledge which God provides for man in which man is granted freedom to do whatever he chooses without outside necessity or predetermination of any kind." The Hegelian dialectic was in full force. The Catholic lie on justification had been countered by the true doctrine of Salvation by Grace through faith, so an evil "compromise" was now offered to the reformed churches, and by deceit and subterfuge, the compromise would eventually become the predominant teachings in all the churches of the world.

Back in Geneva, Theodore Beza at this time had reason to suspect that his student Jacobus Arminius was not what he proposed to be. Questions were being asked about comments that Arminius was making to fellow students, and there were still questions about his support from the rich, aristocratic merchants of Holland. Apparently Arminius was able to lie well enough to get past Beza's questioning, a skill that would come in handy years later when he would be looking for a teaching job in Amsterdam. Beza then asked Arminius to answer and refute the teachings of Dirck Coornhert. Although Arminius completed the task, he later claimed to be convinced by Coornhert's arguments, and he became ardently opposed to the teachings of the reformers. In 1586, Arminius was released from Geneva, but instead of heading back to Amsterdam where he was under contract to the City to labor in order to pay back his tuition, he headed to Rome for a "vacation".

Generally, most Calvinists believe that it was during this time in Rome that Arminius was recruited by the Jesuits to their point of view. That allegation cannot be proven, and I believe that there is enough other evidence that Arminius was compromised long before his pilgrimage to Rome. By this time, he had become a private student of the writings of de Molina, and in 1588, the same year in which Arminius was ordained a minister (by the endorsement of Beza), de Molina published his treatise on the will entitled A Reconciliation of Free Choice with the Gifts of Grace, Divine Foreknowledge, Providence, Predestination and Reprobation. What the Jesuits were loathe to admit, was that Molinism was nothing more than a rebirth of the ancient Pelagianism heresy, although it actually more easily likened to "Semi-Pelagianism" which contends that man cannot be saved apart from God's grace; however, fallen man must cooperate and assent to God's grace before he will be saved. The Jesuits recognized that the Protestants would never embrace the teachings of a Catholic Spanish monk, so they capitalized on the growing and open debates taking place within Protestantism. Molinism would be recast as Arminianism, and eventually, it would take over the ecclesiastical world. A famous quote from de Molina eerily fortells of the Jesuit lie that proceeds from the mouths of "evangelical" leaders today: "all human beings are endowed with equal and sufficient divine grace without distinction as to their individual merits, and that salvation depends on the sinner's willingness to receive grace". The Catholics say of Molinism: "Molinism is an influential system within Catholic theology for reconciling human free choice with God's grace, providence, foreknowledge and predestination. Originating within the Society of Jesus in the late sixteenth and early seventeenth centuries, it encountered stiff opposition from Bañezian Thomists and from the self-styled Augustinian disciples of Michael Baius and Cornelius Jansen." - Alfred J. Freddoso, Catholic Professor at Notre Dame

Upon returning to Amsterdam in 1590, Arminius married the daughter of one of Holland's wealthiest aristocrats. To see how far Jacobus had fallen from his original reformed ideals, we note that in 1591, he was hired by his wealthy benefactors to draw up a church order that would subordinate the church to a place of dependence and obedience to the state. That particular belief is now the most prevalent abuse of both Christians and the scriptures taught in "churches" today. The policy of abusing Romans 13 for the purposes of enslaving Christians to tyrannical civil magistrates had found a hero in Jacobus Arminius. The Catholic church, even today, admires Arminius. Here is what it says about him in the Catholic Encyclopedia: "A leader was sure to rise from the Calvinistic ranks who should point out the baneful corollaries of the Genevan creed, and be listened to. Such a leader was Jacobus Arminius (Jakob Hermanzoon), professor at the University of Leyden." -- Catholic Encyclopedia

In the early 1590's, Arminius had become an acquaintance and some would say an admirer of a Jesuit named Cardinal Robert Bellarmine. Bellarmine was engaged in one of the other battlefronts of the war on the Reformation. At the time, one of the biggest battlefields for the Jesuit army was in the area of eschatology. As Christians around the world began to read the Bible for themselves, it became evident to many of them that the Catholic Church figured prominently in prophecy. The teaching that the "Mystery, Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots" of Revelation 17:5 was actually the papist Church of Rome was gaining steam. In 1590, a Jesuit named Francisco Ribera had begun to write commentaries explaining away those scriptures that plainly taught of the Catholic Church as an element of the Anti-Christ system. Specifically, Ribera wrote a commentary in 1590 that placed a whole new "spin" on Daniel 9:27. Ribera became the first theologian in over 1500 years to teach that the "he" in Daniel 9:27 who confirmed the covenant and put an end to sacrifice was actually "antichrist" and not the Messiah. It had been the uniform teaching of the church since the death of Christ that the "he" who had put an end to all sacrifices on the Cross was Jesus Christ. But the Jesuits needed to create a NEW antichrist, one that was not so easily identified with Rome. By creating the concept of a seven year tribulation, transported way into the future, Ribera was able to divert attention from the most blatant antichrist that had his seat in Rome. Ribera's ideas were taken and expanded by Cardinal Robert Bellarmine who blatantly taught that Paul, John and Daniel had prophesied nothing whatsoever concerning Rome. We might point out that Bellarmine had a tendency to be famously wrong. It was Cardinal Bellarmine who, as inquisitor, threatened Galileo so convincingly that the scientist recanted of his findings that the earth actually moved around the sun! Bellarmine was subsequently declared a "saint" by the Roman Church.

Stay with us, because this mystery splits off in various and interesting directions.

In the late 1590's Jacobus Arminius was back in Amsterdam, teaching his Pelagian/Molinist lies. Enough questions had been brought forth concerning his anti-Grace teachings, that a strict Calvinist by the name of Franciscus Gomarus was called upon to interview Arminius to test his orthodoxy. Arminius was applying for a professorship in Theology at the University of Leyden, and the occasion of his job interview would allow his belief system also to be tested. Apparently, Arminius had either become so skilled a liar or his skills in evasion and escape had become so attuned by this point, that he passed the test with flying colors. The question of why Beza and Gomarus, both strict Grace and Election adherents, had both approved of Arminius is unclear, but both were likely blinded by their belief in honor and integrity amongst theologians. During a time when men were willing to die for their faith, the thought that someone would patently lie about his beliefs in order to receive promotions and to avoid detection would have been far from the minds of these two reformers. But lying and deceit were well within the oath and charter of the Jesuits. We will see that these traits are also widely accepted by the intellectual heirs of Jacobus Arminius.

Arminius died in 1609, long before the upheavals caused by his teachings would erupt in full force. In 1610, the disciples of Arminius signed a "Remonstrance" or a petition to the government for protection of their Arminian views. In their Remonstrance, the Arminians put forth their theology finally for the entire world to see. It consisted of five main points:

1. Conditional election. The Remonstrants held to the Molinist view of Middle-Knowledge. Election was conditional on both God's foreknowledge, and the free will of humans.

2. Universal atonement. The Remonstrants held to the Jesuit/Molinist view on the atonement, as pushed by the Catholics in the Council of Trent. The redemptive blood of Jesus Christ was available to all mankind, and God had not applied or given this atonement to any specific "elect".

3. Total depravity. The Remonstrants held on to the view of original sin, but believed that since humans were HUMANS, and not sticks or plants, there was enough human left in them to enable them to believe on Christ, or reject Him. In effect, humans were not TOTALLY depraved.

4. Sufficient but resistible grace. The Remonstrants believed that Grace was sufficient to save, but that this Grace could be resisted by man. Thereby man could thwart the will of God (which evidently was to save ALL men) by refusing to be saved.

5. Uncertainty about the perseverance of the saints. The Remonstrants believed that a truly born-again believer could cast off that Grace by certain behavior and subsequently go to Hell.

I will tell you that what you have just read is the common teaching of the Protestant churches throughout the world, with very few exceptions.

I will tell you that what you have just read is the common teaching of the Protestant churches throughout the world, with very few exceptions. I will also tell you that these beliefs, commonly called "Arminian", are cogent, logical and ultimately WRONG. I say that they are cogent and logical in order to tell you that the only thing WORSE than the Arminian viewpoint, is any viewpoint that attempts to COMPROMISE between these points and the Doctrines of Grace as taught in the Bible. Challenges to the Doctrines of Grace are usually predicated by the attempt to label them as "Calvinism", although Calvin AND Arminius were gone by the time this Remonstrance was published. What the enemies of Grace term as "Calvinism" or now the more hated "Hyper-Calvinism" was actually just the Gospel response to the Remonstrance of 1610! It is as if a man named Gomer created a new doctrine called GOMERISM, in which he proposed that we all evolved slowly from dirt particles on the eyelids of gnats. If another man named Goober published a biblical challenge to this stupid doctrine, it is as if folks ran about for another 400 years preaching against Gooberism (or worse, Hyper-Gooberism) as a contrivance of that heretic Goober!

In 1611, the true preachers of the Gospel answered with the Contra-Remonstrance of 1611. Robert Godfrey writes, "It it surely ironic that through the centuries there has been so much talk of the 'five points of Calvinism' when in fact Calvinists did not originate a discussion of five points. Indeed Calvinism has never been summarized in five points. Calvinism has only offered five responses to the five errors of Arminianism."

Let us return to our mystery.

The Jesuits were not done with their work. Although they had planted the seeds of their papal tares in the Lord's ground, they had not yet seen their crop come to fruition. In the 1700's, the doctrine of Arminianism would be fully embraced and rapidly distributed by John Wesley, the founder of Methodism. Wesley wrote a defense of Arminianism entitled, "What is an Arminian". The folly of Arminianism was also challenged, and rightly so, by that Great Christian thinker Jonathan Edwards, who published his treatise "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" in 1741, a sermon that profoundly trounced the foolishness of Arminian doctrine. Edwards became president of Princeton in 1758, but "mysteriously" died of a smallpox vaccine within weeks (see the oath of the Jesuit above).

In 1826 Dr. Samuel Maitland (librarian for the Archbishop of Canterbury) wrote a book attacking the Reformation. In it, he used the Jesuit Francisco Ribera's NEW interpretation of Daniel 9:27 in order to defend the Papacy.

In the 1830's two movements erupted that would play an important part in the unfolding mystery. One was the "Oxford Movement". In 1850 John Henry Newman wrote his "Letter on Anglican Difficulties". In it he revealed that the "Oxford Movement" of which he was a part, had as its goal to finally absorb "the various English denominations and parties" back into the Church of Rome. After publishing a pamphlet endorsing the Jesuit view of Daniel 9:27, Newman joined the Catholic Church and eventually became a Cardinal. The second movement that burgeoned at the time was one led by John Nelson Darby, called the "Plymouth Brethren".

At about the same time, there appeared a Scottish Presbyterian minister named Edward Irving (the acknowledged forerunner of both the Pentecostal and Charismatic Movements). Irving was pastoring the huge Chalcedonian Chapel in London. He had readily accepted the Jesuit prophetic teachings on Daniel 9:27 proposed by Maitland, and the Jesuits Bellarmine and Ribera. Irving began to teach the unique idea of a two-phase return of Christ, the first phase being a secret rapture prior to the rise of the Antichrist. It is rumored that Irving received this prophetic "revelation" when it was given in a vision to a young Scottish girl named Margaret McDonald. McDonald's prophetic revelation vision is eerily similar to the way that Ignatius Loyola received his vision of warfare against the Protestants.

One of the leaders of the Plymouth Brethren in Plymouth, England was a lawyer named John Nelson Darby. Darby became the "Father of Dispensationalism", and used the teachings on Daniel 9 by the Jesuits Ribera and Bellarmine as the foundation of his rapture teaching. Darby is a great subject in our study of that poison in the well. Although Darby taught many great things (he insisted on the infallibility of the Bible, and voiced his opposition to the Catholic Church as well as the formalism and manipulation in the Protestant Churches), he had consumed the Jesuit bait, and in turn, he became the bait that would eventually ensnare most of the "Christian" world. Darby visited America 6 times in the late 1800's and by the close of that century, most of the denominations had imbibed from the same poisonous Jesuit well.

SCOFIELD

By 1909, Arminianism and Darbyism had infiltrated most of the denominations in America. That year, Cyrus Scofield published his famous Scofield Bible. That Bible became the predominant Bible used in the seminaries in America. In the margin notes, Scofield readily accepted the dispensationalist teachings of J.N. Darby, and some of the other Jesuit lies discussed here. As can be expected, by the middle of the 1900's, most of the students graduating from America's seminaries were well indoctrinated in both the Jesuit lies of Arminius, and the Dispensationalist hogwash of J.N. Darby. By the end of that century, almost every church in America taught some level of Arminianism and the predominant eschatological view was of a future rapture followed by a seven-year tribulation. Both concepts were openly and clearly Jesuit concepts pushed by the Society of Jesus in order to counter the Doctrines of Grace.

DAVE HUNT

Dave Hunt is an author and Bible commentator who has written about 30 books. Hunt was born in 1926 and was raised in J.N. Darby's "Plymouth Brethren" denomination. Hunt was clearly steeped at an early age in Darby's dispensationalist views, and he would become an avid advocate of the Francisco Ribera teachings regarding Daniel 9:27. According to Hunt, at some point he became disillusioned with the "cessationist" views of his denomination, and, for a time, he became enamored with the more charismatic views on scripture after reading the works of William Law and Andrew Murray. But sometime during the 1980's it seems that Hunt had come full circle to a more traditional Darbyist view on scripture.

As can be expected in any conspiracy/mystery, there are twists and turns. In 1994, Dave Hunt wrote a book entitled A Woman Rides A Beast, which taught the traditional reformed views of the Catholic Church as to the woman in Revelation 17. By the middle of the 1990's, Hunt had become a favorite of both the anti-catholic reformed thinkers, and the Darbyist dispensationalists. Hunt spent most of his time as a "heresy hunter", cementing his position in the minds of most Protestants as a defender of the faith. Once again, the Jesuit ploy was working. The defenses were down, and Loyola's Marian war was about to come to fruition.

WHAT LOVE IS THIS? By Dave Hunt

What Love is This, by Hunt debuted just recently as Hunt's defense of Arminianism. Sub-titled "Calvinism's misrepresentation of God", Hunt pushes the Jesuit agenda to the hilt. In fact, in order to deceive as many Protestants as possible, Hunt uses his Jesuit inspired book to claim that the reformed doctrines of predestination and election are based on Catholic Doctrine! Amazing! But deception wouldn't be deception unless it worked.

To write the forward of the Book, Hunt chose dispensationalist and rapturist author Tim Lahaye. LaHaye is the millionaire best-selling author of the Left Behind series of books. Known for their hokey theology and horrible scriptural gymnastics, the Left Behind series has roped MILLIONS of people into the Jesuit theory of the end times. LaHaye says this about Hunt's book:

"Dave Hunt… proves Calvinism is not a Protestant doctrine, but is based in Greek fatalism brought into the church in the fifth century by Augustine, paving the way for the CATHOLIC DOCTRINE of predestination that all but destroyed Christianity and then was picked up by Calvin and presented as Reformed theology."

Breathtaking. Hunt uses a predictable ploy, and through it he is able to hoodwink most nominal Christians who are too spiritually retarded and lazy to do any research on their own.

Let's lay it out like Hunt does:

1. Augustine was Catholic, therefore he believed in Catholic doctrines like placing tradition on a level with scripture.

2. Since Augustine believed in Predestination too, then anyone who believes in Predestination is really Catholic.

Stupid, but it works on most people. The fact that the Catholic Church in its Catechisms denounces predestination and rejects the doctrine of election does not phase Hunt one bit. The fact that the Catholic Church murdered and imprisoned the reformers for their belief in election doesn't factor in either. The fact that Augustine also believed in the Trinity does not cause Dave Hunt to challenge that Biblical doctrine. Like his theological father Jacobus Arminius, it seems that Dave Hunt is not above lying in order to forward his Jesuit doctrines.

So the trap is sprung and the multitudes will fall prey to it. Hunt writes a book decrying Catholicism as the evil woman of Revelation 17. Then Hunt writes another book turning truth on its head and claiming that the doctrine of election is not a truly Christian doctrine, but was concocted by the Catholic Church. Simple enough, right?

Must be, you ought to read my email. I am attacked from both the Catholics and the so-called "remnant" believers because of my insistence on the Doctrines of Grace. I have received at least 20 letters from people who pompously claim that they are neither Arminians NOR Calvinists, but in fact they are somewhere "in the middle". The Media Scientia (Middle-Knowledge) of that Jesuit monk de Molina has resurfaced from the poison pen of Dave Hunt, and the doctrine has been embraced almost universally.

Not surprisingly, Hunt is also a notable friend and partner with most of those who are deep into the ecumenical movement. His buddy Tim LaHaye, who wrote the forward for his book, is on the board of ECT (Evangelicals and Catholics Together).

Hunt declares that he is NOT a "five-point" Arminian. He believes in the perseverance of the saints. So we can not only affirm that Dave Hunt is a charlatan and a deceiver, but he is also fundamentally illogical. Apparently Hunt believes that the freewill of man is sovereign over the will of God in salvation, but that subsequent to salvation, God abuses mans freewill by not allowing him to change his mind.

Catholic writer Robert W. Aufill has this to say about Hunt: "Strangely, Hunt… does not realize that his own emphasis on 'deciding for Christ' inescapably implies the possibility of co-operating with the grace of justification -- a possibility the Reformers constantly condemned but upon which the Catholic Church insists."

At least with Arminianism, we had a logical and clearly defined enemy. Today, pride and avarice reign. Too many people aren't willing to study these issues for themselves, so they fall prey to millionaire charlatans with books to peddle.

Loyola's plan has come to fruition. The Jesuit doctrines of anti-Grace have become the dominant teaching of the churches of the world. The Woman that Rides the Beast, that mother of Harlots, has seen her offspring grow up into maturity. The Whore churches that dot every street corner have the stench of their mother.

Those people who are NOT brain-addled and stupefied in the sugar-water Harlot Churches, are busy decrying the evil of the coming New World Order, while in ignorance they embrace the very doctrines of Antichrist.

It is the Ultimate Conspiracy, and if it were possible, it would deceive even the very elect. Do Catholics go to heaven? You better find out, because odds are you are one.

I am your servant in Christ Jesus,
Michael Bunker


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Doug Wilson and others at Credenda/Agenda used their magazine to publicly attack and slander Reg Barrow (President of Still Waters Revival Books) in a column that they call the "Cave of Adullam." This invective was Credenda's response to Barrow's comments on Knox Ring (where Barrow noted that John Calvin would have excommunicated Jo hn Frame for the apostasy that he manifests in his new book on worship). Numerous private attempts were unsuccessfully made (by Barrow and others) to call Wilson to repentance for this slander. Ultimately, charges for violation of the ninth commandment were brought (in accord with Matt. 18:15-17) against Wilson by Barrow. This book recounts the sa lient points of the controversy (and the Matthew 18 proceedings) between Wilson and Barrow -- in their actual email debates! Also included is Barrow's demonstration of why Calvin would have excommunicated Frame and Greg Price's Testimony Against The Unfounded Charges of Anabaptism. These debates are a classic example of the differences t hat exist today between paleopresbyterians (Barrow) and neopresbyterians (Wilson). Wilson's charges against Barrow, of Anabaptism, separatism, etc. are all refuted under a mountain of quotations from Reformation source documents. Barrow's refutations of Wilson's spurious charges bring to light many aspects of Reformation thought that have been lost or forgotten in our day. Besides the initial controversy (over Frame and worship) and the restoration process (set forth in Matthew 18:15-17), this book should be of special interest to all of those who love the "old paths" of truth -- trod by our forefathers in the Reformed faith -- for some of the most pressing issues of our day (regarding the individual, church and state) are addressed herein. Classic statements, cited by Barrow, not only exhibit the wisdom which God granted the best Reformers of both the first and second Reformations, but also specifically demonstrate how Wilson and many other modern Protestants actually reject the Reformation at many points (all their protests n ot withstanding). "And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in" (Isa. 58:12). This item is also available as a bound photocopy for $3.98 (US funds) and a Hardcover photocopy for $14.98 (US funds).

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Paleopresbyterianism Versus Neopresbyterianism by Michael Wagner
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---Terms of Ministerial and Christian Communion in the Reformed Presbyterian Church, and In Our Day, In the Puritan Reformed Church; With Explanatory Dialogue (Including "The Biblical and Logical Necessity of Uninspired Creeds") by Larry Birger
Though not originally written with Brian Schwertley in mind, in the providence of God Birger's work has come at a crucial time. This delightful dialogue, between Hans (a paleopresbyterian) and Franz (a neo-turned-paleopresbyterian), deals with many of the accusations made by Schwertley (a minister in the Reformed Presbyterian Church of North Ameri ca -- RPCNA) in his recent open letter against the Puritan Reformed Church ("PRC" -- Edmonton, AB, and Prince George, BC) and Still Waters Revival Books (SWRB). In the process, this enjoyable work sets forth in a very clear, easy-to-understand way a number of the more controversial and misunderstood teachings adopted by the PRC and promoted by SWR B in their return to the biblical attainments of the Second, or Covenanted Reformation on the British Isles. The conversation begins with "The Biblical and Logical Necessity of Uninspired Creeds", where Hans shows Franz that Franz's rejection of uninspired creeds is itself an uninspired creed. After several months of study Franz is now interested in joining Hans' Covenanter church, but has been confused and unsettled by the charges of his friend (a member of the RPCNA). This RPCNA friend alleges that Hans' church is a continuation of the "schism" of the "Steelites", and that they are "basically Papists, putting uninspired works on a par with the Bible and then abusing (their) church autho rity by requiring faith in the church, rather than in the word of God." Hans then goes through and explains pertinent aspects of each term of communion, demonstrating that the RPCNA friend's (and Schwertley's) charges and objections are entirely inaccurate, vindicating in the process precious and vital truths of the Reformation. This easy-reading and mild-mannered dialogue includes an index of topics discussed and objections raised, and is an excellent introduction to the true Covenanter position (i.e. the position of the Westminster Assembly and the Church of Scotland during the Second Reformation) and an effective antidote to the kinds of unfounded slanders circulated by those lik e Brian Schwertley. This item is also available as a bound photocopy for $1.99 (US funds)

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Upholds the original work of the Westminster Assembly and testifies to the abiding worth and truth formulated in the Westminster family of documents. Upholds and defends the crown rights of King Jesus in church and state, denouncing those who would remove the crown from Christ's head by denying His right to rule (by His law) in both the civil and ecclesiastical spheres. Testifies to the received doctrine, government, worship, and discipline of the Church of Scotland in her purest (reforming) periods. Applies God's Word to the Church's corporate attainments "with a judicial approbation of the earnest contendings and attainments of the faithful, and a strong and pointed judicial condemnation of error and the promoters thereof" (The Original Covenanter and Contending Witness, Dec. 17/93, p. 558, http://www.swrb.com/catalog/C.htm.). Shows the church's great historical victories (such as the National and Solemn League and Covenant, leading to the Westminster Assembly) a nd exposes her enemies actions (e.g. the Prelacy of Laud; the Independency, sectarianism, covenant breaking and ungodly toleration set forth by the likes of Cromwell [and the Independents that conspired with him]; the Erastianism and civil sectarianism of William of Orange, etc.). It is not likely that you will find a more consistent working out o f the principles of Calvinism anywhere. Deals with the most important matters relating to the individual, the family, the church and the state. Sets forth a faithful historical testimony of God's dealings with men during some of the most important days of church history. A basic text that should be mastered by all Christians.

Please! Don't be fooled, as this all was CREATED and not by mere chance of it all coming together, as some would have you believe, as God has Created it to be and is, but He can't help you or evil can't hurt you...but they both can only work through others, as for or against you, as to and for your very soul, as well and LIFE..."your LIFE" for all ETERNITY TO COME!

Don't make the biggest mistake you or anyone could ever make in your life, as to lose...BE A WINNER & WIN! Don't let evil beat you, as it will and as others, even here, will help evil without even knowing that they are, but they are...nevertheless.


Jesus was a good man and only taught good things for you to know and live by, as to be saved from losing your soul to evil...and you know it...even if your Conscience, that speaks within you...says, no and God says, yes! Why believe no...when Yes is the right thing to be and do...Yes, why be tricked by the trickster...when you can be loved by God...what for?
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Please! Don't be fooled, as this all was CREATED and not by mere chance of it all coming together, as some would have you believe, as God has Created it to be and is, but He can't help you or evil can't hurt you...but they both can only work through others, as for or against you, as to and for your very soul, as well and LIFE..."your LIFE" for all ETERNITY TO COME!

Don't make the biggest mistake you or anyone could ever make in your life, as to lose...BE A WINNER & WIN! Don't let evil beat you, as it will and as others, even here, will help evil without even knowing that they are, but they are...nevertheless.


Jesus was a good man and only taught good things for you to know and live by, as to be saved from losing your soul to evil...and you know it...even if your Conscience, that speaks within you...says, no and God says, yes! Why believe no...when Yes is the right thing to be and do...Yes, why be tricked by the trickster...when you can be loved by God...what for?
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According to Avro Manhattan's book The Vatican Billions (Chino, CA: Chick Publications, 1983): 227, "One of Nixon's main speech writers during three whole years was a Jesuit father, the Rev. John McLaughlin, who wrote the Nixon speeches at a salary of $32,000 a year."

One has to be manipulated into a top position, and to do that there has to be a huge amount of dirt on that person, known only by a select group of power brokers. Paedophilia is the preferred dirt as it is easily photographed, easily presented in a range of media, immensely shameful, the public demands your resignation, and it is easily arranged amongst Catholics, making them power brokers in some very influential, financial, and dubious deals, unlimited in scope.


......"Pope John Paul I [26 August-29 September 1978] had nothing to hide and ordered the Vatican Books to be opened. When the chief of the IRA heard this, he jumped up like he'd been stung, saying, 'Oh my God, the Pope's just committed suicide'. He rang the Vatican straight away and demanded passports for his men go to the top of the pile. "The IRA routinely travel on Vatican passports which are diplomatic documents describing the priest's urgent mission. They are written on vellum [calfskin or goatskin pelts] and say, 'Whoever impedes or obstructs this priest in his urgent mission work shall be consigned to the fires of hell and burn there for ever and ever'." This holds a lot of power in Catholic countries like France, Belgium and Italy. Authorities will turn a blind eye to a stack of heat-seeking missiles if you are travelling under Papal Bulls - after all, many of those who carry them are killers on a mission for the Catholic Church.

"The IRA got their paperwork back and the following day I went down to the dairy to get the paper and the headline read, 'The Pope Dies, Great Shock'. He was in office only 33 days. p.178 How To Take Over the World. A Right Royal Con by Greg Hallett & Spymaster.

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Post Here, you of most filthy mind of evil

Yes, just because the Catholics hijacked our Religion of Good Faith in the life of God Himself...our Creator and even of your sorry arse too that would have good people believe this BS you spew out your foul mouth onto these message boards...HERE, DUMBER THAN DUMB...TELL THE WHOLE STORY and not the LIES OF A TRICKSTER LIKE LUCIFER IS AND SEEMS TO BE LEADING YOU!

WHY? Because you listen to the evil one that has your poor lost soul for all Eternity...unless you ask God for forgiveness of your evil ways and trying to TRICK PEOPLE WITH YOUR LIES AND TAKING THE FULL STORY OUT OF IT'S CONTEXT...SHAME! DROP TO YOUR SORRY KNEES AND BEG GOD TO FORGIVE YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO DO.

NOW! Here is the REAL TRUTH OF YOUR CATHOLICS that wear Garb...and that WORD IS WHERE WE GET THE WORD FOR GARBAGE...UNDERSTAND GARBAGE!

Watch this video and you will know what you already know, but try and steal men's soul for evil, as it surely is working through YOU!

Lightgiver...lol!


Pagan Worship in HIJACKED Christianity

And Nimrod was the founder of the Pagan Sun worshipers...WAKE UP...SANTA IS SATAN and Dagon was a FISH HEAD...JUST LIKE PART OF THE GARBAGE, GARB, THE CATHOLICS WEAR ON THEIR HEADS TOO...THEIR HAT IS A FRIGGIN FISH HEAD!

Don't believe me, IT'S BEEN ALL WROTE DOWN FOR ALL TO KNOW and don't believe this NON-LIGHTGIVER, AS THE DARKNESS IS ALL HE WILL HAVE AND GIVE TO AND FOR YOU...FOR ALL YOUR ETERNITY TO COME...BUT IF HE IS OR HAS ASK TO BE FORGIVEN...SO BE IT. But, the way he has put it down it looks like he is making a joke out of Real Christianity. So, just so you know the truth and in even some of these videos the real truth has been messed with, as no one knows, for sure, as none of us was there, but most of history is made-up to hide the TRUTH! As someone said, History is wrote to hide the truth. Now, isn't that the truth.



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According to Avro Manhattan's book The Vatican Billions (Chino, CA: Chick Publications, 1983): 227, "One of Nixon's main speech writers during three whole years was a Jesuit father, the Rev. John McLaughlin, who wrote the Nixon speeches at a salary of $32,000 a year."

One has to be manipulated into a top position, and to do that there has to be a huge amount of dirt on that person, known only by a select group of power brokers. Paedophilia is the preferred dirt as it is easily photographed, easily presented in a range of media, immensely shameful, the public demands your resignation, and it is easily arranged amongst Catholics, making them power brokers in some very influential, financial, and dubious deals, unlimited in scope.

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......"Pope John Paul I [26 August-29 September 1978] had nothing to hide and ordered the Vatican Books to be opened. When the chief of the IRA heard this, he jumped up like he'd been stung, saying, 'Oh my God, the Pope's just committed suicide'. He rang the Vatican straight away and demanded passports for his men go to the top of the pile. "The IRA routinely travel on Vatican passports which are diplomatic documents describing the priest's urgent mission. They are written on vellum [calfskin or goatskin pelts] and say, 'Whoever impedes or obstructs this priest in his urgent mission work shall be consigned to the fires of hell and burn there for ever and ever'." This holds a lot of power in Catholic countries like France, Belgium and Italy. Authorities will turn a blind eye to a stack of heat-seeking missiles if you are travelling under Papal Bulls - after all, many of those who carry them are killers on a mission for the Catholic Church.

"The IRA got their paperwork back and the following day I went down to the dairy to get the paper and the headline read, 'The Pope Dies, Great Shock'. He was in office only 33 days. p.178 How To Take Over the World. A Right Royal Con by Greg Hallett & Spymaster.

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Old 08-09-2011, 06:15 PM   #271
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Aude (Occitan: Aude) is a department in south-central France named after the river Aude. The local council also calls the department "Cathar Country".

Human traces have been found in the department from 1,500,000 years BCE in the form of hammers and worked tools on the hill of Grazailles at Carcassonne. The most interesting discovery, however, is that of the skull of ‘Tautavel Man’ made by Henry de Lumley in the commune of Tautavel in the Pyrénées-Orientales. It is the oldest skull known in Europe. It dates from about 450,000 years BCE. It is likely that Tautavel Man lived in all of this region.

It is part of the current region of Languedoc-Roussillon. It is surrounded by the departments of Pyrénées-Orientales, Ariège, Haute-Garonne, Tarn, and Hérault, with the Golfe du Lion on the east.


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The Holy Roman Empire (HRE; German: Heiliges Römisches Reich (HRR), Latin: Imperium Romanum Sacrum (IRS), Italian: Sacro Romano Impero (SRI)) was a realm (Reich) that existed from 962–1806 in Central Europe. It was ruled by the Holy Roman Emperor. Its character changed during the Middle Ages and the Early Modern period, when the power of the emperor gradually weakened in favour of the princes. In its last centuries, its character became quite close to a union of territories.

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The hunter's moon—also known as blood moon or sanguine moon...From French sanguin, ultimately from Latin sanguineus, "of blood".

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The hunter's moon—also known as blood moon or sanguine moon...From French sanguin, ultimately from Latin sanguineus, "of blood".

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Bill is just then called on a housecall to the deathbed of the father of a now-engaged female friend...



Most people believe that death takes place when the heart stops beating; but this does not mean that the person has died, because his subtle mind may still remain in his body.

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Death occurs when the subtle consciousness finally leaves the body to go to the next life. Our body is like a guesthouse and our mind like the guest; when we die our mind has to leave this body and enter the body of our next rebirth, like a guest leaving one guesthouse and travelling to another...

Later on...

Bill goes to meet his friend Nick at the Sonata Cafe; there he learns that Nick has a later engagement that evening where he must play the piano while blindfolded. Nick tells him about the beautiful women he glimpsed when the blindfold slipped at the last gig, allowing him to surmise some of the goings-on.


Bill presses for details. To gain admittance, one needs a costume, a mask and the password.

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There was widespread anger and frustration among Belgians due to police errors and the general slowness of the investigation. This anger culminated when the popular investigative judge in charge of the case was dismissed after having participated in a fund-raising dinner by the girls' parents.

In a rare move, the jury at the assize trial publicly protested the presiding judge Stéphane Goux's handling of the debates and the victims' testimonies.

Throughout the trial, Dutroux continued to insist that he was part of a Europe-wide pedophile ring with accomplices among police officers, businessmen, doctors, and even high-level Belgian politicians...

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A 17-month investigation by a parliamentary commission into the Dutroux affair produced a report in February 1998, which concluded that while Dutroux did not have accomplices in high positions in the police and justice systems, as he continued to claim, he profited from corruption, sloppiness and incompetence.

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In Ancient Egyptian religion, Set (also spelled Seth, Setesh, Sutekh, Setekh or Suty) was a god of the desert, storms, and foreigners. In later myths he was also the god of darkness, and chaos. In Ancient Greek, the god's name is given as Σήθ (Seth)...

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"There was results that don't fit a scenario of Mr. Grant being a contributor to this [DNA profile]," said Waye, professor in the department of Pathology and Molecular Medicine at McMaster University and head of the Molecular Diagnostic Genetics Service of the Hamilton Regional Laboratory Medicine Program.

'You can't ignore data because it doesn't fit your expectations.'—Dr. John Waye...

he said about the incomplete DNA analysis he believes was done by Molecular World.

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