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Old 26-03-2017, 07:19 PM   #221
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And yet its known that Jews were often badly treated in Palestine by the muslim majority before WWII. The grand mufti even sided with the Germans on the basis that they would get rid of them if they won the war. The suffering has never been one way and yet people like you constantly skew the debate to make it look like one group are bad and nobody else is, then try lame tactics in an attempt to shame people out of debate.

One point, I dont defend Israel and have no real interest in politics myself, seeing all politics as the work greedy ambitious people in all nations. I do think it says a lot though when people can constantly go on about one particular group being the bad guys to the exclusion of all others. That makes it look like an agenda against that group.

Another point of interest. You make it sound as if ALL Palestinians are against Israel but it was only a few years ago that a Palestinian was the Grand Master of the Grand Lodge of Israel. Got any reason why that is the case?
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Old 26-03-2017, 07:29 PM   #222
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So you accept that even some Palestinians are working with Israel?

You have no comments about Palestinian mistreatment of Jews in the last century? the fact that it would have been in living memory of some jews who lived there could possibly be a reason why they have been so harsh?

If the Palestinians suddenly were in a position to mistreat Israelis, how would you see that?
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Old 26-03-2017, 07:51 PM   #223
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mistreatment of anyone, by anyone else, is terrible and should not be a part of life.

back on topic, jews dont run the world on their own..

inteligence agencies from the worlds developed countries work together to do so.

so we're all fucked, best of luck

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Old 26-03-2017, 08:17 PM   #224
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mistreatment of anyone, by anyone else, is terrible and should not be a part of life.

back on topic, jews dont run the world on their own..
By that logic you could say muslims and christians run the world too.

I dont think the desire for world domination is anything to do with religion, just greedy people.
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Old 27-03-2017, 03:40 AM   #225
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Disagree. Now the ''zionists'' jews could be the middle-men but you can't deny their involvement everywhere where the value of money and control is big. Even the largest video game corporations are owned and run by them. These corporations pump out the most addicting games which act as a virtual treadmill distraction for the young masses.
The Knights of Malta control the money. The Knights control the banks. They control the Bank of Canada, Federal Reserve Bank, Bank of England; they control the banking. They were the ones who were behind the sinking of the Titanic, with the creation of the White Star Line, J.P. Morgan and others.

The Knights of Malta and the Jesuits work together! (Truth seeker, this may seem irrelevant now, but it is important for you to be aware of this connection. As we shall see, the Knights financed Lenin and Hitler from Wall Street, also using their Federal Reserve Bank headed by Masonic Jews, Warburg in particular.) The Knights negotiated the Concordat (a Papal treaty) between the Pope and Hitler in the person of Franz Von Papen. They also helped top Nazis to escape to North and South America after World War II in the persons of James Angleton and Argentina’s President Juan Peron.

In America, the Knights of Malta, with their OSS, later the CIA, were behind ‘Operation Paperclip’. After World War II, top Nazis and scientists were illegally secreted into the United States. Many were placed in the top-secret military installation in Tonapah, Nevada known as ‘Area 51’. The perfection of the Nazis’ anti-gravity aircraft (flying saucers) was to be completed there, among other secret technologies. ‘Operation Paperclip’ was overseen by America’s most powerful Knight of Malta, J. Peter Grace. J. Peter Grace was subject to the Jesuit-trained Archbishop Spellman, as the American headquarters for the Knights was and is St. Patrick’s Cathedral in New York. Direct excerpts from the forthcoming book by Eric Jon Phelps called Vatican Assassins.


Vatican Assassins III - “Wounded In The House Of My Friends”

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Old 27-03-2017, 11:51 AM   #226
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I've only seen "hate" coming out of your posts here, ignorance and bias.

is this text book "trolling"? I am dumb when it comes to these things.

almost everything else I read is well thought out, intelligent, fair

thats like an alien concept to some people!
The jews are puppets for you to hate. Who are the puppeteers?
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Old 27-03-2017, 12:37 PM   #227
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The jews are puppets for you to hate. Who are the puppeteers?
The Jesuit Order is the puppeteers.

"The Jesuits" or "The Society of Jesus": Historians Expose Conspiracy to Rule the World



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• "Society of Jesus" ... Secrets Revealed!


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The word Illuminati just means enlightened and refers to any individual or a group of individuals that have secret beneficial knowledge.

Since the dawn of man kind human individuals have kept secret knowledge, some individuals use their occult knowledge for the benefit of humanity and some human individuals use their secret knowledge for their own selfish evil purposes.
All knowledge is neutral, the only thing that is evil is the intentions of the individual that has the knowledge and good and evil is also subjective depending on what you are and who you are.
Some of the groups that have called themselves Illuminati in the past are the Jesuits. Ignatius Loyola was a member of the Los Alumbrados, the Illuminati of Spain during the medieval period before he founded the Society of Jesus-The Jesuits:

After the Jesuits were Suppressed by the Catholic church from an order by Pope Clement XIV on the 21st of July 1773: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Clement_XIV ..... The Jesuits decided to go underground and create many front organizations that could allow them to continue their operations for global power. 1 of the front groups that they created was the Bavarian Illuminati with 1 of their members Adam Weishaupt that was a professor of Canon law at 1 of the former Universities of the Jesuits in Germany

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Weishaupt

The purpose for the creation of the Bavarian Illuminati was to allow the Jesuits gain revenge against the Catholic Church for suppressing them and also against all the European Monarchs that had expelled them from their domains:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppre...ciety_of_Jesus

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Old 27-03-2017, 12:43 PM   #228
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The puppeteers are our negative thoughts and emotions ultimately. The more you hate jews and Jesuits the more evil they become. We create the demons.
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I dont hate the jesuits!

Extreme Oath Of Jesuit...... youtube video start 7 minuts and 22 second into the video...

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Old 16-06-2017, 04:44 PM   #230
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Marxism and Christianity have perpetrated what is in the Jewish Torah, the holy book of the jews. Both call for the necessary extermination of whites to clear the world of any resistance. All whites left were enslaved, which is the main goal of Judaism.

Quote from the Jewish Talmud:
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

A Jewish group called the Therapeutes created Christianity out of Alexandria, who were Rabbis most likely. Ancient Rome, like other Pagan/old god societies had a culture of spiritual practice and knowledge. The pagan culture was eliminated to weaken them by removing their spiritual knowledge. Then once the Therapeutes spread their Christianity in Rome and worked to remove spiritual knowledge (they always take control of the media and educational outlets), they were able to master the leading people of Rome and therefore become master of one of the latest spiritual civilizations.

Communism and Christianity are both hoaxes. Both created by jews as Alfred Rosenberg wrote in his Gravediggers of Russia, 430 out of 480 leaders of the Soviet leadership council were jewish.

"Christianity and communism are very close spiritually and ideologically. This is a fairly well known concept that has been adopted by various thinkers, from Thomas More to Lev Tolstoy. Few people know that the world's first socialist state was established in Paraguay and was based on the ideas of Catholic Jesuits before Marx created his teachings."

"The "Society of Jesus" - the Jesuit religious order - in the Catholic Church was roughly equivalent to the KGB in the Soviet Union."
Above quotes taken from "Pravda" [The main Communist Party Newspaper and leading newspaper of the former Soviet Union] From the article: Is there any difference between Christianity and Communism? 30/04/2013
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The Rothschild's wield the power in all affairs on earth, so it cannot really be a false flag. I still think the Annunaki living beneath the earth run things on earth, with the Rothschilds as their henchmen.
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Marxism and Christianity have perpetrated what is in the Jewish Torah, the holy book of the jews. Both call for the necessary extermination of whites to clear the world of any resistance. All whites left were enslaved, which is the main goal of Judaism.

Quote from the Jewish Talmud:
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

A Jewish group called the Therapeutes created Christianity out of Alexandria, who were Rabbis most likely. Ancient Rome, like other Pagan/old god societies had a culture of spiritual practice and knowledge. The pagan culture was eliminated to weaken them by removing their spiritual knowledge. Then once the Therapeutes spread their Christianity in Rome and worked to remove spiritual knowledge (they always take control of the media and educational outlets), they were able to master the leading people of Rome and therefore become master of one of the latest spiritual civilizations.

Communism and Christianity are both hoaxes. Both created by jews as Alfred Rosenberg wrote in his Gravediggers of Russia, 430 out of 480 leaders of the Soviet leadership council were jewish.

"Christianity and communism are very close spiritually and ideologically. This is a fairly well known concept that has been adopted by various thinkers, from Thomas More to Lev Tolstoy. Few people know that the world's first socialist state was established in Paraguay and was based on the ideas of Catholic Jesuits before Marx created his teachings."

"The "Society of Jesus" - the Jesuit religious order - in the Catholic Church was roughly equivalent to the KGB in the Soviet Union."
Above quotes taken from "Pravda" [The main Communist Party Newspaper and leading newspaper of the former Soviet Union] From the article: Is there any difference between Christianity and Communism? 30/04/2013
The talmud is not the torah or law though and doesnt carry its authority. Its more a selection of rabbinical ideas, similar to the sharia and the koran.

Also, looks like that talmud quote is false:

"When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves. (Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56D)."

Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56D. There is no such book in the Talmud. It is actually the name of a 10th century Bible commentator. The "fol. 56D" is an invention.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/van_hyning.html

Van Hyning was a bit anti-jewish and was quite happy to use any means at her disposal to turn people against them, being a fanatical christian.
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The puppeteers are our negative thoughts and emotions ultimately. The more you hate jews and Jesuits the more evil they become. We create the demons.
I think it works out that its the more evil you become. Hating people creates a channel in your own being for hate and the more you do it the bigger the channel, which is probably why Jesus taught people to love their enemies in order to ensure they only manifest positive power.
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Also, looks like that talmud quote is false:

"When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves. (Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56D)."

Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56D. There is no such book in the Talmud. It is actually the name of a 10th century Bible commentator. The "fol. 56D" is an invention.

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/van_hyning.html

Van Hyning was a bit anti-jewish and was quite happy to use any means at her disposal to turn people against them, being a fanatical christian.
This might be the one, page 215:

HEBRAIC LITERATURE; TRANSLATIONS FROM THE TALMUD, MIDRASHIM AND KABBALA 1943

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He who observes carefully the precepts respecting fringes will, as a reward, have two thousand eight hundred slaves to wait upon him; for it is said (Zech. viii. 23), "Thus saith the Lord of hosts; In those days it shall come to pass that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you."

Shabbath, fol. 32, col. 2.
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This might be the one, page 215:

HEBRAIC LITERATURE; TRANSLATIONS FROM THE TALMUD, MIDRASHIM AND KABBALA 1943



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But who is to say that it refers to actual people and isnt metaphorical like a lot of the bible is?

Also, the Jews have been forced into slavery and oppression lots of times in history so maybe some of their rabbis just vented a desire for payback? doesnt mean its going to happen and I doubt that all jews would actually desire such a thing. Also, it suggests that people will follow them willingly for Gods sake rather than being slaves to another person for that persons sake.
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Also, it suggests that people will follow them willingly for Gods sake rather than being slaves to another person for that persons sake.
Well sorry but no it does not state that

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In those days it shall come to pass that ten men shall take hold out of all languages of the nations, even shall take hold of the skirt of him that is a Jew, saying, We will go with you, for we have heard that God is with you."
It states that 10 men will take hold of the languages (so main Stream Media) of the world and that these 10 men will follow the Jewish faith.

So 10 men not 2800 per individual who follows.

So at 2016 figures there are 14,500,000 jews in the world each to have 2800 slaves....which is

40,600,000,000 which is one hell of a lot of 'willing' slaves!
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Well sorry but no it does not state that



It states that 10 men will take hold of the languages (so main Stream Media) of the world and that these 10 men will follow the Jewish faith.

So 10 men not 2800 per individual who follows.

So at 2016 figures there are 14,500,000 jews in the world each to have 2800 slaves....which is

40,600,000,000 which is one hell of a lot of 'willing' slaves!
Well Im not afraid of some ancient writing but some obscue rabbi that doesnt have any divine authority. Not all jews follow the talmud either as its not the law.
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Communism and Christianity are both hoaxes.
There's an online activist i often debate with who claims to be a christian AND a communist which is patently absurd as communism is a materialist creed and i even quoted to him from communist literature i have from my younger days when i dabbled with all that stuff to prove the inherently anti-religious nature of communism

This person constantly speaks about race in a way that is clearly aimed at polarising people on that basis in order to then recruit them to his ideology

he says he's black

This is fascinating to me....i often wonder what kind of conversations he has with his fellow activists

Perhaps they fantasise about overthrowing the rothschild supremicists once white people have been crushed by communism

maybe they have some sort of delusion that they can ride the wave of communism into victory in their race-war before then turning on the saturnian occultists who are behind communism to themselves gain supremacy

Or....perhaps more realistically...they just don't really understand all this stuff and are just being duped by the saturnists and perhaps even willingly so because of their own racist agenda
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