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Old 24-06-2016, 12:44 PM   #61
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I know OP does not mention its a hoax, I thought I mention it because of all the other hoaxes that have happend these past few years.
False flag not sure, experiment perhaps or just some mindless game for THEM.
Was a sad day and many lost thier lives and alot of bullshit, cover ups.

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Old 24-06-2016, 04:45 PM   #62
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I know OP does not mention its a hoax, I thought I mention it because of all the other hoaxes that have happend these past few years.
False flag not sure, experiment perhaps or just some mindless game for THEM.
Was a sad day and many lost thier lives and alot of bullshit, cover ups.
Terrible day. I remember it well. However, THEY took control of the sport I loved and grew up with and turned it into sky's own little money making machine.

Increased security, all seater stadia, sanitary games played over and over in replays like a video game (ushering in a holographic / VR existence?), people controlling people (Icke says even sheep need dogs to be controlled!!) pre-booking of tickets (further control of your movements and actions) and much more...

And whilst all of this was being silently implemented the focus was on the 'cover-up' by the police and the false accusations of the sun of the scouse fans. (the sun owned by murdoch incites football fans, whilst sky owned by murdoch slips in and controls our game...)

THESE are a few points why I think it's a false flag event and not a hoax. IMO FF events REAL people get hurt to further the agenda e.g. 9/11, 7/7, madrid train bombs, hillsboro' etc... whereas hoaxes e.g.boston bombing, sandy hook, pulse are mass staged events
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Old 09-11-2016, 10:16 AM   #63
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Based on what little I knew at the time about the case I could not come to any other conclusion except what was came to at the inquest. It should not need so many years either the evidence was pretty clear. Putting families through all this is pretty disgusting
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:00 PM   #64
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Agree, I think you have a good point there about being used to increase more security and whatnot. Regarding The Sun, and what I don't get about the public's perceptions of shameful newspaper journalism is that people seem to have jumped onto the "let's get that scum The Sun" hate bandwagon. It's not just The Sun but almost every other mainstream newspaper, which are just controlled by the same people. Yes The Sun is part of the Murdoch media group. I walked past a car not long ago and noticed in the back window there was a sticker saying "don't buy The Sun" or something like that. I wonder what that was all about, but it's possibly to do with Hillsborough. I think it should've said "don't buy The Sun, Express, Guardian, or any other mainstream newspaper". I think The Sun is an easy scapegoat, IMO.
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Old 11-11-2016, 03:15 PM   #65
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I agree with the people who confirm that no one died. Clearly the governmetn wanted all seater stadia put in and a fake disaster was the fastest way to get that done.

But it is good that there were no real injuries to anyone that day, although I suppose a few of the crisis actors were slightly injured.
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Old 03-02-2017, 01:23 PM   #66
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I agree with the people who confirm that no one died. Clearly the governmetn wanted all seater stadia put in and a fake disaster was the fastest way to get that done.

But it is good that there were no real injuries to anyone that day, although I suppose a few of the crisis actors were slightly injured.
People did die that day though, Just like 911 and other tragedies that have happened. Yes even should the event be setup to happen so they can force an agenda, It doesn't mean that it's all a movie with actors. It would be nice to think that nobody really died on these events but we have to remember the people that are behind these things do not care about other people. They do not care if real people die so long as they can force along their agenda.
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Old 03-02-2017, 06:19 PM   #67
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I think the suggestion that Hillsborough was one big set up and that noone really died would seriously piss off alot of people, not just people of Liverpool or families connected to the tragedy but the entire concerning general public. Nothing wrong in questioning these events, it's healthy, but I don't think Hillsborough fits into the "crises actors/staged" category of events.
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You mean did they sacrifice 96 people under a giant owl on the 77th anniversary of the Titanic?
Not to mention the sacrificial flames added to the Liverpool logo.
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Liverpool FC added the flames to their kit to remember the 96 people who died. There is also a memorial at the ground with a list of all the people who died.

I realise it's an old thread but the police were to blame for the deaths. The government then covered up for them. The sun newspaper printed loads of lies and crap about the fans, calling them scum, thieves and other things. I would love to see Kelvin McKenzie go to Anfield and apologise for what he wrote.

Whether people support Liverpool FC or not is irrelevant here. It was one massive cover up and it's taken a long long time to get the truth to come out.

People are pushing for standing sections again, and there have been footballing groups going up to Celtics ground to see how well their standing rail system works.
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Old 21-06-2018, 06:29 PM   #70
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Personally I dont think that it was a set up.
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Old 25-06-2018, 09:28 AM   #71
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I was talking to my gf the other day and I brought up the Manchester Arena "attack" having been staged or contrived in some way, and she replied with "so you think that Hillsborough never happened and nobody died too do you"?. This is how people have that knee jerk reaction when you question these controversial tragedies. As soon as you come out with an alternative opinion, even if its just to question the official story, and because they've heard it from somewhere that people claim that some things are staged, they immediately think you're trying to claim the same with Hillsborough.

They're trying to (unintentionally I think) mix up cover up with conspiracy, which IMO are two slightly different things. Comparing 7/7, 9/11 etc to Hillsborough is like comparing apples with oranges.

I know zilch about football, so I don't know what a game was like pre Hillsborough, but the comment about the games changing, is all seated stadium, more commercialisation of the sport, having to pre book tickets (was that really intil after Hillsborough cos I thought that was the norm since day one?), etc makes sense, certainly with regards to security.

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Old 25-06-2018, 10:00 AM   #72
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Anyone seen, particularly in the Liverpool area, vehicles and shop windows with signs or stickers saying "don't buy the Sun"?. Why people just slag off the Sun when every other mainstream newspaper is reporting the sane crap baffles me. I feel guilty guilty as me & my gf rented a cheap caravan from the Sun newspaper recently. My gfs friend despises the Sun and would've strung my gf up from the nearest lamppost if she knew she had done that.

Just because we're getting the truth and justice for Hillsborough, doesn't mean well get the truth about 9/11 and all the other false flag events, Dunblane cover up, etc. People still think the official version of those events are true. The Hillsborough justice campaigners arent branded as conspiracy nutcases, which is why the media is all welcoming of them, unlike 9/11 truthers who just get ignored and put into the conspiracy theory camp.

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Anyone seen, particularly in the Liverpool area, vehicles and shop windows with signs or stickers saying "don't buy the Sun"?. Why people just slag off the Sun when every other mainstream newspaper is reporting the sane crap baffles me. I feel guilty guilty as me & my gf rented a cheap caravan from the Sun newspaper recently. My gfs friend despises the Sun and would've strung my gf up from the nearest lamppost if she knew she had done that.

Just because we're getting the truth and justice for Hillsborough, doesn't mean well get the truth about 9/11 and all the other false flag events, Dunblane cover up, etc. People still think the official version of those events are true. The Hillsborough justice campaigners arent branded as conspiracy nutcases, which is why the media is all welcoming of them, unlike 9/11 truthers who just get ignored and put into the conspiracy theory camp.
The Sun was the newspaper that really stuck the knife in over Hillsborough. Other papers had the same information as The Sun but they didn't run the article. The info came from South Yorkshire Police by all accounts...

They made up so much crap about the Liverpool fans, claiming they were all drunk, no one had a ticket, they were robbing the dead, urinating on the police, and then the infamous headline called The Truth. Which it wasn't.

This is a link from the Hillsborough indepenant panel and there is a link to the original copy of the sun newspaper.

http://hillsborough.independent.gov....000340001.html

There is still a banner on the Kop which is displayed before every game saying 'Don't buy The S*n'. It's fair to say it's not a well liked newspaper in Liverpool.

They also called the ex Everton player Ross Barkley and his relatives a few nasty things recently, so the paper and their staff was banned at Goodison as well. Then he was suspended from the paper.

Kelvin McKenize could have sorted all this out back in 1989, he phoned the Liverpool manager and asked what he could do, and Kenny Dalglish said they should apologise, but McKenzie wouldn't. It took him 23 years to finally say sorry.

I guess the whole Sun thing is because they really went over the top blaming Liverpool fans for Hillborough. When it was all down the to useless fuckwits at South Yorkshire Police. People finally got the truth as to why 96 people died and was down to the police.

9/11 conspiracy theorists always get laughed at as we all know those planes knocked the towers down It is too big a lie for them ever to admit to taking down those towers for political reasons.
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Its not only the Sun paper that blamed the fans, but you also got the average person (and still do) blaming the fans, especially the scouse ones, for what happened. You do hear that, mainly those of a non football mind who constantly look down on the sport as this dirty, peasant peoples bread and circus where all they do is riot etc. I'm not a football person and even I know it wasn't the fans that were to blame that day. Some people are so pissed off with their routine boring, slave like lives that starting a conversation about this kinda subject often leads into to the usual "bloody drunken fans" rant.
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Its also a good example (when you hear people blaming the fans) of how easily lead people are in diverting attention away from the real cause (in this case the police), and shifting the blame on the usual scapegoats, ie the fans. And when you bring this up you get back "no no no, it was the fans fault, they barged their way in, the police tried to stop them", or "they wouldn't do that".

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David Duckenfield is going to stand trial, but it has been delayed until January 2019 now.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...yside-44682168

And the former Sheffield Wednesday club secretary Graham Mackrell will also be on trial.

It's taken nearly 30 years but it's slowly getting there.
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