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Here is an action on foot be brought.

This will be a very similar scene when the declaration was given to, not by the people, in a room without any windows, for people to see what was really going on.

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Here is an action on foot be brought.

This will be a very similar scene when the declaration was given to, not by the people, in a room without any windows, for people to see what was really going on.

Notice the floor is not fully tiled




The floor ...and also the L A W
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Their hidden relgion, but one that was always in plain sight, and what was used in the past to bemadden a populous, has now run out of steam, as has all of their religions that followed which all brothers are to follow, must always follow, have also run their course, so now they have to invent or reinvent another.





This will not be a Nibiru but a high tech religion and illusion.



John Dee was a high order occultus, Rosicrs-cian and in the Queens Elizabeth 1st court guiding proceedings.

At 15.15 the order of Melchizedek is given, see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchizedek

Please read this book or at least this part,

https://archive.org/stream/devilspul...e/238/mode/2up

And you will have their secret religion.

One that is many thousands of years old older than the pyramids themselves.

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And therefore so go "we"
As you can see "paths" are in fact made for fools who cannot see their own way to their truth

*the scene from the Mel Gibson movie about captures the whole shebang without "words" needing to be used

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The Apprentice we see sharing his "Time honed" observations here has a true grasp of "their" Mechanics
And he was never "entered" into any bind.....
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As you can see "paths" are in fact made for fools who cannot see their own way to their truth

*the scene from the Mel Gibson movie about captures the whole shebang without "words" needing to be used
All roads followed precisely to their end lead absolutely nowhere, in the film clip the king is asked, what of these captives, he said, "dispose of them, here he is not talking about the price of a pair of worn out slippers.

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The Apprentice we see sharing his "Time honed" observations here has a true grasp of "their" Mechanics
And he was never "entered" into any bind.....
All of the ancients looked up and saw what was coming, the clever ones recorded it all, through all ages, but were not allowed to tell.





Well worth a read for those who want to see codex and poetry rolled into one.

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Can almost hear the frantic turning of pages and cell phone on dial back as the cogs turn to rewind the horror story unfolding before his eyes
You guys have a much higher estimate yourselves than I do of you.

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The OES is not the female version of Freemasonry. It is a co-ed appendant body of Freemasonry, but it does not and cannot bestow the title of Mason on anyone. That privilege lies with the Blue Lodge only. Also, the George Washington Masonic Memorial (1:40) is not inside Washington DC, but in Alexandria, VA.

Also the statue of Washington is not modeled after the Baphomet image. That statue was sculpted by Horatio Greenbough who modeled it after the statue “Zeus Olympios”. It was commissioned in 1832, but wouldn’t make it to the Capitol until 1841. Many found it offensive so it was removed from the Capitol and is now housed in one of the Smithsonian Museums. The Baphomet image that we see commonly used today was first appeared in a book by Eliphas Levi which was published in 1854.

The House of the Temple is not the headquarter for Freemasonry. It is the headquarters for the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. It is a beautiful building and was modeled after the Mausoleum of Maussollos, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. If the guy in the video actually took a tour, many of his questions that he was whispering about would have been answered.

I disagree with the statement that Washington DC is a Masonic city. George Washington appointed Pierre Charles L'Enfant to design Washington DC, which was established in 1790 when an act of Congress authorized a federal district along the Potomac River and conveniently situated between the northern and southern states. Thomas Jefferson had created a sketch of the city comprised of a square grid street system. L'Enfant took these designs further and applied radials upon them. From each of these radials stemmed streets that would shoot diagonally across the city intersecting the grid system. L'Enfant placed Congress on a high point with a commanding view of the Potomac, instead of reserving the grandest spot for the leader's palace as was customary in Europe, to display the American attitude of reserving the high point of the city for the Legislature whose duty it is to represent the People and the States. These wide boulevards stemming from the radials allowed for easy transportation across town and offered views of important buildings and common squares from great distances. Eventually L'Enfant's head strong behavior earned him the ire of Washington, who fired him after one year of employment. According to the Encyclopedia Americana: “L'Enfant forged ahead regardless of his orders, the budget, or landowners with prior claims.” When he left the US, he took his designs with him. The duty of remaking the plans fell upon Andrew Ellicot and Benjamin Banneker (a freed black man). Banneker was able to recreate the plans in their entirety from memory. Of all the men who dealt with the designs, of this future Seat of Government, was George Washington. Some have stated that L'Enfant was a Mason, but according to Brent Morris in his book, The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Freemasonry, stated: “Eager Freemasons with more enthusiasm than facts have claimed L’Enfant as a brother. It is unfortunate for them that there are no documents, either primary or secondary, showing L’Enfant was a Mason.” To counter this, Pierre F. de Ravel d’Esclapon, of New York, wrote an article called "The Masonic Career of Major Pierre Charles L’Enfant" who states there exist minutes of Holland Lodge in NY that show L'Enfant getting proposed and initiated, but makes no more further statements as to whether he made it to become a Master Mason. I find his article intriguing, but the evidence is circumstantial and muddies the water. Even if he had been initiated, if he had not progressed any further he would not have been considered a full member nor entitled to the rights of membership. Regardless of his affiliation, he was fired and the designs remade from Banneker are what we see today.

Some conspiracy theorist states that there exists an inverted pentagram, but if you actually look at the streets, there isn’t a complete pentagram. Rhode Island Ave NW doesn't go all the way through to K St NW. Rhode Island Ave NW stops when it runs into Connecticut Ave NW. The pentagram is not complete. Some also state that you can find the Square and Compasses (one of the most prominent Masonic symbols out there), but I'd like to point out that when you place a radial street system upon a grid system, you'll find the Square and Compasses.

Also, just because a building has a cornerstone dedicated to it by the Grand Lodge doesn’t mean it’s a Masonic building.

As for the Sephiroth, with an intricate crisscross of streets, you're bound to find various images. In fact, as you can see in the picture above, you can even spell "JESUS" in the streets of Washington DC, but you don't hear anyone condemning it as some deviant scheme of the Christian faith. Freemasonry is not “Judaism for the gentiles”. What an ignorant statement. Freemasonry is also not tied or affiliated with the Jesuits.

The altar used in the House of the Temple is not the “black cube of Saturn.” That’s the guy’s opinion of it, not our interpretation or intent for it. The House of the Temple is not a Mecca for American Freemasons. It is a beautiful building, but so is the Masonic Temple in Detroit, the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania, the George Washington Masonic Memorial, and so on. It is significant for being the headquarters, but it is home to one of two Supreme Councils in the US, and one of many Supreme Councils around the world. But the Scottish Rite is just one branch of Freemasonry.

As for the passage from the Book of Matthew, you realize that it was speaking in parables right? In Mark Masonry we use this same passage.

It’s very clear this guy has no understanding of symbols and their uses. Oh he can tie the similar patterns, but he doesn’t understand the intent, purpose, and interpretations of them, and how they change over time and with different groups.

And there is no Baal or Baphomet worship in Freemasonry:
The Baphomet is not a masonic symbol, nor is it worshiped by freemasons. It has no traditional relation to the pentagram, nor the Goat of Mendes, nor Pan, nor the Green Man. The name seems to have first appeared in twelfth century France and its image first appeared in 1855. Then Anton Szandor LaVey and his atheistic Church of Satan adopted it in 1966. But it all starts with the Roman Catholic Inquisition and the Knights Templar.

Established in 1118 by Hugh de Payen and André de Montbard, the Knights Templar — from September 13, 1128, properly styled Pauperes commilitis Christi et Templi Salomonis — are forever linked to the history of the Baphomet. But of 231 knights examined by the pope’s Commissioners in Paris, only 12 admitted, under torture, to knowing anything about the icon, as against 183 who confessed that they renounced Christ and 180 who confessed to defiling the cross in various ways.

The term’s identification with Mahomet appears to be derived from its usage in Provence. This had been the centre of the Cathar Church in France, until the Albigensian Crusade of 1209-1229 killed its protectors and the nascent Inquisition killed or silenced any survivors. Montague Summers suggested, without proof, that the name was a combination of two Greek words (baphe and metis) and meant 'absorption into wisdom.'

It should be noted that the term Baphomet is not to be found in King Philippe’s grounds for arrest, issued September 14th, 1307, the 127 articles of accusation drawn up on August 12th, 1308, nor in any of the papal bulls issued by Pope Clement V. The articles of accusation refer to the adoration of idols: a cat or head, sometimes having three faces. The descriptions revealed during the trials varied but generally were of a "head with one face or two faces, sometimes bearded and sometimes not, made of silver or of wood, a picture of a man or of a woman, an embalmed head that glowed in the dark or a demon." The trials say little of the actual head, but there are some textual accounts of it. Guillame de Arbley who was the preceptor of the Templar house at Soissy in the diocese of Meaux testified on October 22, 1307 that he had seen the bearded head twice, which he claimed was gilded and made of silver and wood.

Although modern writers will occasionally refer to the Templars' use of the pentagram, or five-pointed star, they fail to provide examples. The seals of the Masters generally depicted crosses, castles, fish, lambs, lions and the like. The plans of their castles and strongholds in Europe — those few they constructed — were dependent on topography and sightlines, not sacred geometry.

What does this have to do with Freemasonry, or more particularly, anti-masonry? The presumed link is the pentagram. Over six hundred years after the suppression of the Knights Templar, one Éliphas Lévi took it upon himself to determine the value of the pentagram and equate it with the Baphomet. He termed the Baphomet, "the Goat of Mendes" — confusing it with Banebdjedet, an Ancient Egyptian ram god— and included a fanciful illustration of it as a frontispiece to his Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic in 1861. Although his frontispiece illustration depicts a one-point-up pentagram, he is also credited with being the first to arbitrate that the one-point-down image represented the Baphomet. No known graphical illustration associating the pentagram with evil appears before this. Michael Howard claims that Lévi based the illustration on a gargoyle that appears on a building owned by the Templars; the Commandry of Saint Bris le Vineux. The Catholic Inquisition of the early 1300s does not appear to have made a connection between the Templars' alleged worship of the Baphomet and the pentagram. Goldberg’s Sacred fire : the story of sex in religion depicts an image that could act as a link between the Templars and Lévi. But there is no mention in the text and no source is cited.

The next similar depiction appears in 1894 when self-confessed fraud Leo Taxil incorporated a similar figure into his attacks on Freemasonry. These three images, and subsequent imitations, constitute the complete catalogue of images purporting to represent the Baphomet. They have no historical precedent. They have no existence other than in the imaginations of their authors. And the point cannot be made too strongly — they have nothing to do with Freemasonry.

It is a literary and historical curiosity that masonic author, Albert Pike quoted extensively, and apparently uncritically, from the writings of Éliphas Lévi. He writes: "Hierogliphically to express this law of prudence, they gave their mercury, personified in Egypt as Hermanubis, a dog’s head; and to their Sulpher, represented by the Baphomet of the Temple, that goat’s head which brought into such disrepute the occult Mediaeval associations." "The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit ; and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes." It is clear that Pike’s authority was Lévi, who had no authority.

Placing the image of a goat face inside a five-pointed star appears to be the inspiration of Paul Jagot, in his Science Occulte et Magie Pratique (Paris : Editions Drouin, 1924, p. 172). It incorporated an open star, not a pentagram, and Jagot provided no citation.

The image next appeared in The Handbook of Magic & Witchcraft by Charles W. Olliver (London : Rider & Co., 1928, p. 47). As reproduced at the top left of this webpage, the head is now contained in a pentagram, with the addition of the words "Samael" and "Lilith". Olliver also failed to provide citation.

In 1931 Oswald Wirth included the goat head and pentagram in his La Franc-Maçonnerie Rendue Intelligible à ces Adeptes, Deuxième Partie: "Le Compagnon," (Paris: Derry-Livres, 1931, p. 60). Again, the image was uncited.

Maurice Bessy provided an illustration of the goat head and pentagram inside two circles, with the word "Leviathan" written between the lines in Hebrew, in his A Pictorial History of Magic and the Supernatural (London :1964, p. 198). He also provided no source.

Only in the later twentieth century, with the creation of the American Church of Satan, did the inverted pentagram, with or without the goat head, become a popular symbol for Satan. Their source appears to be Oswald Wirth and Maurice Bessy, neither of whom identified it with the Baphomet.

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Well, some of us have...you know...jobs, family, friends; all things I find more important than coming onto here.


You guys have a much higher estimate yourselves than I do of you.


I shun you quite often.


Not all Lodges have tiled floors and those that do, the mosaic pavement doesn't cover the entirety.


The OES is not the female version of Freemasonry. It is a co-ed appendant body of Freemasonry, but it does not and cannot bestow the title of Mason on anyone. That privilege lies with the Blue Lodge only. Also, the George Washington Masonic Memorial (1:40) is not inside Washington DC, but in Alexandria, VA.

Also the statue of Washington is not modeled after the Baphomet image. That statue was sculpted by Horatio Greenbough who modeled it after the statue “Zeus Olympios”. It was commissioned in 1832, but wouldn’t make it to the Capitol until 1841. Many found it offensive so it was removed from the Capitol and is now housed in one of the Smithsonian Museums. The Baphomet image that we see commonly used today was first appeared in a book by Eliphas Levi which was published in 1854.

The House of the Temple is not the headquarter for Freemasonry. It is the headquarters for the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. It is a beautiful building and was modeled after the Mausoleum of Maussollos, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. If the guy in the video actually took a tour, many of his questions that he was whispering about would have been answered.

I disagree with the statement that Washington DC is a Masonic city. George Washington appointed Pierre Charles L'Enfant to design Washington DC, which was established in 1790 when an act of Congress authorized a federal district along the Potomac River and conveniently situated between the northern and southern states. Thomas Jefferson had created a sketch of the city comprised of a square grid street system. L'Enfant took these designs further and applied radials upon them. From each of these radials stemmed streets that would shoot diagonally across the city intersecting the grid system. L'Enfant placed Congress on a high point with a commanding view of the Potomac, instead of reserving the grandest spot for the leader's palace as was customary in Europe, to display the American attitude of reserving the high point of the city for the Legislature whose duty it is to represent the People and the States. These wide boulevards stemming from the radials allowed for easy transportation across town and offered views of important buildings and common squares from great distances. Eventually L'Enfant's head strong behavior earned him the ire of Washington, who fired him after one year of employment. According to the Encyclopedia Americana: “L'Enfant forged ahead regardless of his orders, the budget, or landowners with prior claims.” When he left the US, he took his designs with him. The duty of remaking the plans fell upon Andrew Ellicot and Benjamin Banneker (a freed black man). Banneker was able to recreate the plans in their entirety from memory. Of all the men who dealt with the designs, of this future Seat of Government, was George Washington. Some have stated that L'Enfant was a Mason, but according to Brent Morris in his book, The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Freemasonry, stated: “Eager Freemasons with more enthusiasm than facts have claimed L’Enfant as a brother. It is unfortunate for them that there are no documents, either primary or secondary, showing L’Enfant was a Mason.” To counter this, Pierre F. de Ravel d’Esclapon, of New York, wrote an article called "The Masonic Career of Major Pierre Charles L’Enfant" who states there exist minutes of Holland Lodge in NY that show L'Enfant getting proposed and initiated, but makes no more further statements as to whether he made it to become a Master Mason. I find his article intriguing, but the evidence is circumstantial and muddies the water. Even if he had been initiated, if he had not progressed any further he would not have been considered a full member nor entitled to the rights of membership. Regardless of his affiliation, he was fired and the designs remade from Banneker are what we see today.

Some conspiracy theorist states that there exists an inverted pentagram, but if you actually look at the streets, there isn’t a complete pentagram. Rhode Island Ave NW doesn't go all the way through to K St NW. Rhode Island Ave NW stops when it runs into Connecticut Ave NW. The pentagram is not complete. Some also state that you can find the Square and Compasses (one of the most prominent Masonic symbols out there), but I'd like to point out that when you place a radial street system upon a grid system, you'll find the Square and Compasses.

Also, just because a building has a cornerstone dedicated to it by the Grand Lodge doesn’t mean it’s a Masonic building.

As for the Sephiroth, with an intricate crisscross of streets, you're bound to find various images. In fact, as you can see in the picture above, you can even spell "JESUS" in the streets of Washington DC, but you don't hear anyone condemning it as some deviant scheme of the Christian faith. Freemasonry is not “Judaism for the gentiles”. What an ignorant statement. Freemasonry is also not tied or affiliated with the Jesuits.

The altar used in the House of the Temple is not the “black cube of Saturn.” That’s the guy’s opinion of it, not our interpretation or intent for it. The House of the Temple is not a Mecca for American Freemasons. It is a beautiful building, but so is the Masonic Temple in Detroit, the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania, the George Washington Masonic Memorial, and so on. It is significant for being the headquarters, but it is home to one of two Supreme Councils in the US, and one of many Supreme Councils around the world. But the Scottish Rite is just one branch of Freemasonry.

As for the passage from the Book of Matthew, you realize that it was speaking in parables right? In Mark Masonry we use this same passage.

It’s very clear this guy has no understanding of symbols and their uses. Oh he can tie the similar patterns, but he doesn’t understand the intent, purpose, and interpretations of them, and how they change over time and with different groups.

And there is no Baal or Baphomet worship in Freemasonry:
The Baphomet is not a masonic symbol, nor is it worshiped by freemasons. It has no traditional relation to the pentagram, nor the Goat of Mendes, nor Pan, nor the Green Man. The name seems to have first appeared in twelfth century France and its image first appeared in 1855. Then Anton Szandor LaVey and his atheistic Church of Satan adopted it in 1966. But it all starts with the Roman Catholic Inquisition and the Knights Templar.

Established in 1118 by Hugh de Payen and André de Montbard, the Knights Templar — from September 13, 1128, properly styled Pauperes commilitis Christi et Templi Salomonis — are forever linked to the history of the Baphomet. But of 231 knights examined by the pope’s Commissioners in Paris, only 12 admitted, under torture, to knowing anything about the icon, as against 183 who confessed that they renounced Christ and 180 who confessed to defiling the cross in various ways.

The term’s identification with Mahomet appears to be derived from its usage in Provence. This had been the centre of the Cathar Church in France, until the Albigensian Crusade of 1209-1229 killed its protectors and the nascent Inquisition killed or silenced any survivors. Montague Summers suggested, without proof, that the name was a combination of two Greek words (baphe and metis) and meant 'absorption into wisdom.'

It should be noted that the term Baphomet is not to be found in King Philippe’s grounds for arrest, issued September 14th, 1307, the 127 articles of accusation drawn up on August 12th, 1308, nor in any of the papal bulls issued by Pope Clement V. The articles of accusation refer to the adoration of idols: a cat or head, sometimes having three faces. The descriptions revealed during the trials varied but generally were of a "head with one face or two faces, sometimes bearded and sometimes not, made of silver or of wood, a picture of a man or of a woman, an embalmed head that glowed in the dark or a demon." The trials say little of the actual head, but there are some textual accounts of it. Guillame de Arbley who was the preceptor of the Templar house at Soissy in the diocese of Meaux testified on October 22, 1307 that he had seen the bearded head twice, which he claimed was gilded and made of silver and wood.

Although modern writers will occasionally refer to the Templars' use of the pentagram, or five-pointed star, they fail to provide examples. The seals of the Masters generally depicted crosses, castles, fish, lambs, lions and the like. The plans of their castles and strongholds in Europe — those few they constructed — were dependent on topography and sightlines, not sacred geometry.

What does this have to do with Freemasonry, or more particularly, anti-masonry? The presumed link is the pentagram. Over six hundred years after the suppression of the Knights Templar, one Éliphas Lévi took it upon himself to determine the value of the pentagram and equate it with the Baphomet. He termed the Baphomet, "the Goat of Mendes" — confusing it with Banebdjedet, an Ancient Egyptian ram god— and included a fanciful illustration of it as a frontispiece to his Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic in 1861. Although his frontispiece illustration depicts a one-point-up pentagram, he is also credited with being the first to arbitrate that the one-point-down image represented the Baphomet. No known graphical illustration associating the pentagram with evil appears before this. Michael Howard claims that Lévi based the illustration on a gargoyle that appears on a building owned by the Templars; the Commandry of Saint Bris le Vineux. The Catholic Inquisition of the early 1300s does not appear to have made a connection between the Templars' alleged worship of the Baphomet and the pentagram. Goldberg’s Sacred fire : the story of sex in religion depicts an image that could act as a link between the Templars and Lévi. But there is no mention in the text and no source is cited.

The next similar depiction appears in 1894 when self-confessed fraud Leo Taxil incorporated a similar figure into his attacks on Freemasonry. These three images, and subsequent imitations, constitute the complete catalogue of images purporting to represent the Baphomet. They have no historical precedent. They have no existence other than in the imaginations of their authors. And the point cannot be made too strongly — they have nothing to do with Freemasonry.

It is a literary and historical curiosity that masonic author, Albert Pike quoted extensively, and apparently uncritically, from the writings of Éliphas Lévi. He writes: "Hierogliphically to express this law of prudence, they gave their mercury, personified in Egypt as Hermanubis, a dog’s head; and to their Sulpher, represented by the Baphomet of the Temple, that goat’s head which brought into such disrepute the occult Mediaeval associations." "The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit ; and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes." It is clear that Pike’s authority was Lévi, who had no authority.

Placing the image of a goat face inside a five-pointed star appears to be the inspiration of Paul Jagot, in his Science Occulte et Magie Pratique (Paris : Editions Drouin, 1924, p. 172). It incorporated an open star, not a pentagram, and Jagot provided no citation.

The image next appeared in The Handbook of Magic & Witchcraft by Charles W. Olliver (London : Rider & Co., 1928, p. 47). As reproduced at the top left of this webpage, the head is now contained in a pentagram, with the addition of the words "Samael" and "Lilith". Olliver also failed to provide citation.

In 1931 Oswald Wirth included the goat head and pentagram in his La Franc-Maçonnerie Rendue Intelligible à ces Adeptes, Deuxième Partie: "Le Compagnon," (Paris: Derry-Livres, 1931, p. 60). Again, the image was uncited.

Maurice Bessy provided an illustration of the goat head and pentagram inside two circles, with the word "Leviathan" written between the lines in Hebrew, in his A Pictorial History of Magic and the Supernatural (London :1964, p. 198). He also provided no source.

Only in the later twentieth century, with the creation of the American Church of Satan, did the inverted pentagram, with or without the goat head, become a popular symbol for Satan. Their source appears to be Oswald Wirth and Maurice Bessy, neither of whom identified it with the Baphomet.

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Admitted under torture by the popes henchmen that they never knew anything about it, you do understand how torture works.

If you look through Hebraic Gematria you will find what Tubal Cain, means, its just anothr opinion of course.

The black cube is not black it is a duality of colours, it is square in shape but not a cube, unless the other half is below ground level.

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well, some of us have...you know...jobs, family, friends; all things i find more important than coming onto here.


you guys have a much higher estimate yourselves than i do of you.


I shun you quite often.


Not all lodges have tiled floors and those that do, the mosaic pavement doesn't cover the entirety.


The oes is not the female version of freemasonry. It is a co-ed appendant body of freemasonry, but it does not and cannot bestow the title of mason on anyone. That privilege lies with the blue lodge only. Also, the george washington masonic memorial (1:40) is not inside washington dc, but in alexandria, va.

Also the statue of washington is not modeled after the baphomet image. That statue was sculpted by horatio greenbough who modeled it after the statue “zeus olympios”. It was commissioned in 1832, but wouldn’t make it to the capitol until 1841. Many found it offensive so it was removed from the capitol and is now housed in one of the smithsonian museums. The baphomet image that we see commonly used today was first appeared in a book by eliphas levi which was published in 1854.

The house of the temple is not the headquarter for freemasonry. It is the headquarters for the scottish rite of freemasonry. It is a beautiful building and was modeled after the mausoleum of maussollos, one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. If the guy in the video actually took a tour, many of his questions that he was whispering about would have been answered.

I disagree with the statement that washington dc is a masonic city. George washington appointed pierre charles l'enfant to design washington dc, which was established in 1790 when an act of congress authorized a federal district along the potomac river and conveniently situated between the northern and southern states. Thomas jefferson had created a sketch of the city comprised of a square grid street system. L'enfant took these designs further and applied radials upon them. From each of these radials stemmed streets that would shoot diagonally across the city intersecting the grid system. L'enfant placed congress on a high point with a commanding view of the potomac, instead of reserving the grandest spot for the leader's palace as was customary in europe, to display the american attitude of reserving the high point of the city for the legislature whose duty it is to represent the people and the states. These wide boulevards stemming from the radials allowed for easy transportation across town and offered views of important buildings and common squares from great distances. Eventually l'enfant's head strong behavior earned him the ire of washington, who fired him after one year of employment. According to the encyclopedia americana: “l'enfant forged ahead regardless of his orders, the budget, or landowners with prior claims.” when he left the us, he took his designs with him. The duty of remaking the plans fell upon andrew ellicot and benjamin banneker (a freed black man). Banneker was able to recreate the plans in their entirety from memory. Of all the men who dealt with the designs, of this future seat of government, was george washington. Some have stated that l'enfant was a mason, but according to brent morris in his book, the complete idiot’s guide to freemasonry, stated: “eager freemasons with more enthusiasm than facts have claimed l’enfant as a brother. It is unfortunate for them that there are no documents, either primary or secondary, showing l’enfant was a mason.” to counter this, pierre f. De ravel d’esclapon, of new york, wrote an article called "the masonic career of major pierre charles l’enfant" who states there exist minutes of holland lodge in ny that show l'enfant getting proposed and initiated, but makes no more further statements as to whether he made it to become a master mason. I find his article intriguing, but the evidence is circumstantial and muddies the water. Even if he had been initiated, if he had not progressed any further he would not have been considered a full member nor entitled to the rights of membership. Regardless of his affiliation, he was fired and the designs remade from banneker are what we see today.

Some conspiracy theorist states that there exists an inverted pentagram, but if you actually look at the streets, there isn’t a complete pentagram. Rhode island ave nw doesn't go all the way through to k st nw. Rhode island ave nw stops when it runs into connecticut ave nw. The pentagram is not complete. Some also state that you can find the square and compasses (one of the most prominent masonic symbols out there), but i'd like to point out that when you place a radial street system upon a grid system, you'll find the square and compasses.

Also, just because a building has a cornerstone dedicated to it by the grand lodge doesn’t mean it’s a masonic building.

As for the sephiroth, with an intricate crisscross of streets, you're bound to find various images. In fact, as you can see in the picture above, you can even spell "jesus" in the streets of washington dc, but you don't hear anyone condemning it as some deviant scheme of the christian faith. Freemasonry is not “judaism for the gentiles”. What an ignorant statement. Freemasonry is also not tied or affiliated with the jesuits.

The altar used in the house of the temple is not the “black cube of saturn.” that’s the guy’s opinion of it, not our interpretation or intent for it. The house of the temple is not a mecca for american freemasons. It is a beautiful building, but so is the masonic temple in detroit, the grand lodge of pennsylvania, the george washington masonic memorial, and so on. It is significant for being the headquarters, but it is home to one of two supreme councils in the us, and one of many supreme councils around the world. But the scottish rite is just one branch of freemasonry.

As for the passage from the book of matthew, you realize that it was speaking in parables right? In mark masonry we use this same passage.

It’s very clear this guy has no understanding of symbols and their uses. Oh he can tie the similar patterns, but he doesn’t understand the intent, purpose, and interpretations of them, and how they change over time and with different groups.

And there is no baal or baphomet worship in freemasonry:
the baphomet is not a masonic symbol, nor is it worshiped by freemasons. It has no traditional relation to the pentagram, nor the goat of mendes, nor pan, nor the green man. The name seems to have first appeared in twelfth century france and its image first appeared in 1855. Then anton szandor lavey and his atheistic church of satan adopted it in 1966. But it all starts with the roman catholic inquisition and the knights templar.

Established in 1118 by hugh de payen and andré de montbard, the knights templar — from september 13, 1128, properly styled pauperes commilitis christi et templi salomonis — are forever linked to the history of the baphomet. But of 231 knights examined by the pope’s commissioners in paris, only 12 admitted, under torture, to knowing anything about the icon, as against 183 who confessed that they renounced christ and 180 who confessed to defiling the cross in various ways.

The term’s identification with mahomet appears to be derived from its usage in provence. This had been the centre of the cathar church in france, until the albigensian crusade of 1209-1229 killed its protectors and the nascent inquisition killed or silenced any survivors. Montague summers suggested, without proof, that the name was a combination of two greek words (baphe and metis) and meant 'absorption into wisdom.'

it should be noted that the term baphomet is not to be found in king philippe’s grounds for arrest, issued september 14th, 1307, the 127 articles of accusation drawn up on august 12th, 1308, nor in any of the papal bulls issued by pope clement v. The articles of accusation refer to the adoration of idols: A cat or head, sometimes having three faces. The descriptions revealed during the trials varied but generally were of a "head with one face or two faces, sometimes bearded and sometimes not, made of silver or of wood, a picture of a man or of a woman, an embalmed head that glowed in the dark or a demon." the trials say little of the actual head, but there are some textual accounts of it. Guillame de arbley who was the preceptor of the templar house at soissy in the diocese of meaux testified on october 22, 1307 that he had seen the bearded head twice, which he claimed was gilded and made of silver and wood.

Although modern writers will occasionally refer to the templars' use of the pentagram, or five-pointed star, they fail to provide examples. The seals of the masters generally depicted crosses, castles, fish, lambs, lions and the like. The plans of their castles and strongholds in europe — those few they constructed — were dependent on topography and sightlines, not sacred geometry.

What does this have to do with freemasonry, or more particularly, anti-masonry? The presumed link is the pentagram. Over six hundred years after the suppression of the knights templar, one éliphas lévi took it upon himself to determine the value of the pentagram and equate it with the baphomet. He termed the baphomet, "the goat of mendes" — confusing it with banebdjedet, an ancient egyptian ram god— and included a fanciful illustration of it as a frontispiece to his doctrine and ritual of high magic in 1861. Although his frontispiece illustration depicts a one-point-up pentagram, he is also credited with being the first to arbitrate that the one-point-down image represented the baphomet. No known graphical illustration associating the pentagram with evil appears before this. Michael howard claims that lévi based the illustration on a gargoyle that appears on a building owned by the templars; the commandry of saint bris le vineux. The catholic inquisition of the early 1300s does not appear to have made a connection between the templars' alleged worship of the baphomet and the pentagram. Goldberg’s sacred fire : The story of sex in religion depicts an image that could act as a link between the templars and lévi. But there is no mention in the text and no source is cited.

The next similar depiction appears in 1894 when self-confessed fraud leo taxil incorporated a similar figure into his attacks on freemasonry. These three images, and subsequent imitations, constitute the complete catalogue of images purporting to represent the baphomet. They have no historical precedent. They have no existence other than in the imaginations of their authors. And the point cannot be made too strongly — they have nothing to do with freemasonry.

It is a literary and historical curiosity that masonic author, albert pike quoted extensively, and apparently uncritically, from the writings of éliphas lévi. He writes: "hierogliphically to express this law of prudence, they gave their mercury, personified in egypt as hermanubis, a dog’s head; and to their sulpher, represented by the baphomet of the temple, that goat’s head which brought into such disrepute the occult mediaeval associations." "the gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the holy spirit ; and it was adored in the secret rites of the sabbat or the temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of mendes." it is clear that pike’s authority was lévi, who had no authority.

Placing the image of a goat face inside a five-pointed star appears to be the inspiration of paul jagot, in his science occulte et magie pratique (paris : Editions drouin, 1924, p. 172). It incorporated an open star, not a pentagram, and jagot provided no citation.

The image next appeared in the handbook of magic & witchcraft by charles w. Olliver (london : Rider & co., 1928, p. 47). As reproduced at the top left of this webpage, the head is now contained in a pentagram, with the addition of the words "samael" and "lilith". Olliver also failed to provide citation.

In 1931 oswald wirth included the goat head and pentagram in his la franc-maçonnerie rendue intelligible à ces adeptes, deuxième partie: "le compagnon," (paris: Derry-livres, 1931, p. 60). Again, the image was uncited.

Maurice bessy provided an illustration of the goat head and pentagram inside two circles, with the word "leviathan" written between the lines in hebrew, in his a pictorial history of magic and the supernatural (london :1964, p. 198). He also provided no source.

Only in the later twentieth century, with the creation of the american church of satan, did the inverted pentagram, with or without the goat head, become a popular symbol for satan. Their source appears to be oswald wirth and maurice bessy, neither of whom identified it with the baphomet.

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Well, some of us have...you know...jobs, family, friends; all things I find more important than coming onto here.


You guys have a much higher estimate yourselves than I do of you.


I shun you quite often.


Not all Lodges have tiled floors and those that do, the mosaic pavement doesn't cover the entirety.


The OES is not the female version of Freemasonry. It is a co-ed appendant body of Freemasonry, but it does not and cannot bestow the title of Mason on anyone. That privilege lies with the Blue Lodge only. Also, the George Washington Masonic Memorial (1:40) is not inside Washington DC, but in Alexandria, VA.

Also the statue of Washington is not modeled after the Baphomet image. That statue was sculpted by Horatio Greenbough who modeled it after the statue “Zeus Olympios”. It was commissioned in 1832, but wouldn’t make it to the Capitol until 1841. Many found it offensive so it was removed from the Capitol and is now housed in one of the Smithsonian Museums. The Baphomet image that we see commonly used today was first appeared in a book by Eliphas Levi which was published in 1854.

The House of the Temple is not the headquarter for Freemasonry. It is the headquarters for the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. It is a beautiful building and was modeled after the Mausoleum of Maussollos, one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. If the guy in the video actually took a tour, many of his questions that he was whispering about would have been answered.

I disagree with the statement that Washington DC is a Masonic city. George Washington appointed Pierre Charles L'Enfant to design Washington DC, which was established in 1790 when an act of Congress authorized a federal district along the Potomac River and conveniently situated between the northern and southern states. Thomas Jefferson had created a sketch of the city comprised of a square grid street system. L'Enfant took these designs further and applied radials upon them. From each of these radials stemmed streets that would shoot diagonally across the city intersecting the grid system. L'Enfant placed Congress on a high point with a commanding view of the Potomac, instead of reserving the grandest spot for the leader's palace as was customary in Europe, to display the American attitude of reserving the high point of the city for the Legislature whose duty it is to represent the People and the States. These wide boulevards stemming from the radials allowed for easy transportation across town and offered views of important buildings and common squares from great distances. Eventually L'Enfant's head strong behavior earned him the ire of Washington, who fired him after one year of employment. According to the Encyclopedia Americana: “L'Enfant forged ahead regardless of his orders, the budget, or landowners with prior claims.” When he left the US, he took his designs with him. The duty of remaking the plans fell upon Andrew Ellicot and Benjamin Banneker (a freed black man). Banneker was able to recreate the plans in their entirety from memory. Of all the men who dealt with the designs, of this future Seat of Government, was George Washington. Some have stated that L'Enfant was a Mason, but according to Brent Morris in his book, The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Freemasonry, stated: “Eager Freemasons with more enthusiasm than facts have claimed L’Enfant as a brother. It is unfortunate for them that there are no documents, either primary or secondary, showing L’Enfant was a Mason.” To counter this, Pierre F. de Ravel d’Esclapon, of New York, wrote an article called "The Masonic Career of Major Pierre Charles L’Enfant" who states there exist minutes of Holland Lodge in NY that show L'Enfant getting proposed and initiated, but makes no more further statements as to whether he made it to become a Master Mason. I find his article intriguing, but the evidence is circumstantial and muddies the water. Even if he had been initiated, if he had not progressed any further he would not have been considered a full member nor entitled to the rights of membership. Regardless of his affiliation, he was fired and the designs remade from Banneker are what we see today.

Some conspiracy theorist states that there exists an inverted pentagram, but if you actually look at the streets, there isn’t a complete pentagram. Rhode Island Ave NW doesn't go all the way through to K St NW. Rhode Island Ave NW stops when it runs into Connecticut Ave NW. The pentagram is not complete. Some also state that you can find the Square and Compasses (one of the most prominent Masonic symbols out there), but I'd like to point out that when you place a radial street system upon a grid system, you'll find the Square and Compasses.

Also, just because a building has a cornerstone dedicated to it by the Grand Lodge doesn’t mean it’s a Masonic building.

As for the Sephiroth, with an intricate crisscross of streets, you're bound to find various images. In fact, as you can see in the picture above, you can even spell "JESUS" in the streets of Washington DC, but you don't hear anyone condemning it as some deviant scheme of the Christian faith. Freemasonry is not “Judaism for the gentiles”. What an ignorant statement. Freemasonry is also not tied or affiliated with the Jesuits.

The altar used in the House of the Temple is not the “black cube of Saturn.” That’s the guy’s opinion of it, not our interpretation or intent for it. The House of the Temple is not a Mecca for American Freemasons. It is a beautiful building, but so is the Masonic Temple in Detroit, the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania, the George Washington Masonic Memorial, and so on. It is significant for being the headquarters, but it is home to one of two Supreme Councils in the US, and one of many Supreme Councils around the world. But the Scottish Rite is just one branch of Freemasonry.

As for the passage from the Book of Matthew, you realize that it was speaking in parables right? In Mark Masonry we use this same passage.

It’s very clear this guy has no understanding of symbols and their uses. Oh he can tie the similar patterns, but he doesn’t understand the intent, purpose, and interpretations of them, and how they change over time and with different groups.

And there is no Baal or Baphomet worship in Freemasonry:
The Baphomet is not a masonic symbol, nor is it worshiped by freemasons. It has no traditional relation to the pentagram, nor the Goat of Mendes, nor Pan, nor the Green Man. The name seems to have first appeared in twelfth century France and its image first appeared in 1855. Then Anton Szandor LaVey and his atheistic Church of Satan adopted it in 1966. But it all starts with the Roman Catholic Inquisition and the Knights Templar.

Established in 1118 by Hugh de Payen and André de Montbard, the Knights Templar — from September 13, 1128, properly styled Pauperes commilitis Christi et Templi Salomonis — are forever linked to the history of the Baphomet. But of 231 knights examined by the pope’s Commissioners in Paris, only 12 admitted, under torture, to knowing anything about the icon, as against 183 who confessed that they renounced Christ and 180 who confessed to defiling the cross in various ways.

The term’s identification with Mahomet appears to be derived from its usage in Provence. This had been the centre of the Cathar Church in France, until the Albigensian Crusade of 1209-1229 killed its protectors and the nascent Inquisition killed or silenced any survivors. Montague Summers suggested, without proof, that the name was a combination of two Greek words (baphe and metis) and meant 'absorption into wisdom.'

It should be noted that the term Baphomet is not to be found in King Philippe’s grounds for arrest, issued September 14th, 1307, the 127 articles of accusation drawn up on August 12th, 1308, nor in any of the papal bulls issued by Pope Clement V. The articles of accusation refer to the adoration of idols: a cat or head, sometimes having three faces. The descriptions revealed during the trials varied but generally were of a "head with one face or two faces, sometimes bearded and sometimes not, made of silver or of wood, a picture of a man or of a woman, an embalmed head that glowed in the dark or a demon." The trials say little of the actual head, but there are some textual accounts of it. Guillame de Arbley who was the preceptor of the Templar house at Soissy in the diocese of Meaux testified on October 22, 1307 that he had seen the bearded head twice, which he claimed was gilded and made of silver and wood.

Although modern writers will occasionally refer to the Templars' use of the pentagram, or five-pointed star, they fail to provide examples. The seals of the Masters generally depicted crosses, castles, fish, lambs, lions and the like. The plans of their castles and strongholds in Europe — those few they constructed — were dependent on topography and sightlines, not sacred geometry.

What does this have to do with Freemasonry, or more particularly, anti-masonry? The presumed link is the pentagram. Over six hundred years after the suppression of the Knights Templar, one Éliphas Lévi took it upon himself to determine the value of the pentagram and equate it with the Baphomet. He termed the Baphomet, "the Goat of Mendes" — confusing it with Banebdjedet, an Ancient Egyptian ram god— and included a fanciful illustration of it as a frontispiece to his Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic in 1861. Although his frontispiece illustration depicts a one-point-up pentagram, he is also credited with being the first to arbitrate that the one-point-down image represented the Baphomet. No known graphical illustration associating the pentagram with evil appears before this. Michael Howard claims that Lévi based the illustration on a gargoyle that appears on a building owned by the Templars; the Commandry of Saint Bris le Vineux. The Catholic Inquisition of the early 1300s does not appear to have made a connection between the Templars' alleged worship of the Baphomet and the pentagram. Goldberg’s Sacred fire : the story of sex in religion depicts an image that could act as a link between the Templars and Lévi. But there is no mention in the text and no source is cited.

The next similar depiction appears in 1894 when self-confessed fraud Leo Taxil incorporated a similar figure into his attacks on Freemasonry. These three images, and subsequent imitations, constitute the complete catalogue of images purporting to represent the Baphomet. They have no historical precedent. They have no existence other than in the imaginations of their authors. And the point cannot be made too strongly — they have nothing to do with Freemasonry.

It is a literary and historical curiosity that masonic author, Albert Pike quoted extensively, and apparently uncritically, from the writings of Éliphas Lévi. He writes: "Hierogliphically to express this law of prudence, they gave their mercury, personified in Egypt as Hermanubis, a dog’s head; and to their Sulpher, represented by the Baphomet of the Temple, that goat’s head which brought into such disrepute the occult Mediaeval associations." "The Gnostics held that it composed the igneous body of the Holy Spirit ; and it was adored in the secret rites of the Sabbat or the Temple, under the hieroglyphic figure of Baphomet or the hermaphroditic goat of Mendes." It is clear that Pike’s authority was Lévi, who had no authority.

Placing the image of a goat face inside a five-pointed star appears to be the inspiration of Paul Jagot, in his Science Occulte et Magie Pratique (Paris : Editions Drouin, 1924, p. 172). It incorporated an open star, not a pentagram, and Jagot provided no citation.

The image next appeared in The Handbook of Magic & Witchcraft by Charles W. Olliver (London : Rider & Co., 1928, p. 47). As reproduced at the top left of this webpage, the head is now contained in a pentagram, with the addition of the words "Samael" and "Lilith". Olliver also failed to provide citation.

In 1931 Oswald Wirth included the goat head and pentagram in his La Franc-Maçonnerie Rendue Intelligible à ces Adeptes, Deuxième Partie: "Le Compagnon," (Paris: Derry-Livres, 1931, p. 60). Again, the image was uncited.

Maurice Bessy provided an illustration of the goat head and pentagram inside two circles, with the word "Leviathan" written between the lines in Hebrew, in his A Pictorial History of Magic and the Supernatural (London :1964, p. 198). He also provided no source.

Only in the later twentieth century, with the creation of the American Church of Satan, did the inverted pentagram, with or without the goat head, become a popular symbol for Satan. Their source appears to be Oswald Wirth and Maurice Bessy, neither of whom identified it with the Baphomet.

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Although to be fair most (not all) of my friends dont meet in dark male only rooms without windows wearing fancy dress to find any meaning to anything....
The only club im a member of is that one that beats me over the head every morning to remind me to get "out there!" and Earn to cover the Extortion we face daily......
Good job theres no Concordant or Appendant jobs to go to on top.....ffs
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No it's not.


To be fair, Lodge rooms are usually well lit and I've been in plenty of Lodges that have windows.


Like you have any idea what the "top" is in Freemasonry.
There is no "top" at the bottom ...unless ones head is up ones A...

Ironically for such a "wordsmith" , as you clearly assert to be.....you didnt realise how that sentence read at all did you ...."Good job theres no "extra" jobs to go to 'ON TOP OF' the 9-5 one"

Words......just get in the way at times huh

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No it's not.


To be fair, Lodge rooms are usually well lit and I've been in plenty of Lodges that have windows.


Like you have any idea what the "top" is in Freemasonry.

Then as you well know (being as you point to it so often) those lodges were not properly tiled as another poster pointed out.

DO you think thats done deliberatly perhaps to further obfuscate?
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Then as you well know (being as you point to it so often) those lodges were not properly tiled as another poster pointed out.

DO you think thats done deliberatly perhaps to further obfuscate?
In the near future we are going to see many changes within all of the institutions and cults, because the age is almost upon us, the end of a cycle often involves a new opium.

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