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Old 24-03-2010, 07:59 PM   #61
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I shall get an old school thermometer and give it a go! My diet is good apart from all the chocolate and cakes when it is my time of the month

I have been taking the spirulina for about a week, my skin has started to look really healthy and radiant the last couple of days, not sure if that has anything to do with it.
I took it for years and it was one of the best supplements I ever took. Mind you that was before I found out about the iodine deficiency I had, I even had a very good diet, food combining, organic foods. Iodine was and is simply fantastic.
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Thanks for the link.
I had 6 drops today, first time, and i didn't feel at all tired all day, felt mentally boosted, don't know if I would've felt the same without it or not, but I will know after a few days of using it. So far so good anyway.
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Yep, that's iodine. It'll get better in the coming days as well.

Do you remember when you were young - jumping out of bed when you awake.

Those days are coming back.
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Yep, that's iodine. It'll get better in the coming days as well.

Do you remember when you were young - jumping out of bed when you awake.

Those days are coming back.
That's definately something to look forward to !
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Self test.


http://altmedangel.com/iodine.htm


So how many drops should someone take.??? Just in plain water ???

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Glad you got it - not sure if the arm test is any indication, but, if you have a typical diet you are severely depleted.

Start with 3 drops - 7% solution is the best one. If you shower in mains water and have mercury fillings then you may need more. See how you feel - you should notice a dramatic increase in energy, clarity of thought, loads of things.

Take it on an empty stomach at least 1 hour before food especially any anti-oxitants you may be taking. Do not take the selenium with it.

Do you have a link for the glowing report on the other iodine?
Hey Mark cheers for the above was thinking of taking it on an empty stomach and then an hour or so later take the Selenium with food. I have read Selenium is needed by the Iodine and so a supplement of that can increase the amount of Iodine uptake.

As for the other Iodine I believe I came across two one is an old Cayce remedy called Atomidine
Generally considered less potent than Lugols but worth a ganders.

A review along with other experiences (7 pages) of Lugols here at Earthclinic http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/iodine.html

The other was Magnascent am looking through those Earthclinic reviews to see where it was I read the testimonial, may even have been over at curezone but cant seemt o find it.

The following is a good read about Magnascent Iodine.

http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=946557
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http://altmedangel.com/iodine.htm


So how many drops should someone take.??? Just in plain water ???
Good page - not sure whether the skin test works, but, it might.

3 drops of 7% solution (Lugol's Iodine) equals 12mg of iodine, which is the minimum one should have in your diet.

If you have fluoride (water, toothpaste), chloride (water, cleaning products), bromide (flour products) or mercury fillings you are going to need quite a bit more - up to 50mg a day (20 drops).

Take with water 1 hour before food and on it's own. No anti-oxidants at that time. Okay after the hour.
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Hey Mark cheers for the above was thinking of taking it on an empty stomach and then an hour or so later take the Selenium with food. I have read Selenium is needed by the Iodine and so a supplement of that can increase the amount of Iodine uptake.

As for the other Iodine I believe I came across two one is an old Cayce remedy called Atomidine http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Ato...ient=firefox-a

Generally considered less potent than Lugols but worth a ganders.

A review along with other experiences (7 pages) of Lugols here at Earthclinic http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/iodine.html

The other was Magnascent am looking through those Earthclinic reviews to see where it was I read the testimonial, may even have been over at curezone but cant seemt o find it.

The following is a good read about Magnascent Iodine.

http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=946557
Thanks for the links I'll take a good look.

Selenium works - but works better with iodine.

I just had a look at the Curezone site - very good.

I had to laugh though:

"The World Health Organization documents that adults require 150 - 300 µg iodine per day."

The WHO is a total joke.

The average Japanese diet is 12mg per day which is considered the benchmark - not a pathetic 300 micrograms. No wonder we are sicker now more than 60 years ago.
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That was one of the best Coast to Coast shows of all time. If you want to hear Dr. Apsley discuss this, here are some mp3s of a radio segment he did recently.

http://www.cancerisafungus.com/dr-ap...ni-therapy.php

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That was one of the best Coast to Coast shows of all time. If you want to hear Dr. Apsley discuss this, here are some mp3s of a radio segment he did recently.

http://www.cancerisafungus.com/dr-ap...ni-therapy.php

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Wow - for once I agree with you. I must be mellowing.

Great link, thanks motleyhoo.
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Here's a link for Thyroid Gland in the UK:

Thyroid

And here's a link for Lugol's Iodine:

Iodine

Get checked by a Natural Practitioner if you think you have a low Thyroid.
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I've been using 5% Lugols iodine for a long while already. I only use one drop a time though. Sometimes 2, but that's it. I also do not take it everyday....I always take "breaks."

1 drop of 5% Lugol's iodine = 12.5 mg, according to here:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1470547
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I've been using 5% Lugols iodine for a long while already. I only use one drop a time though. Sometimes 2, but that's it. I also do not take it everyday....I always take "breaks."

1 drop of 5% Lugol's iodine = 12.5 mg, according to here:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1470547
Interesting, thank you.
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Great article on Lugol's Iodine:

http://www.herbhealers.com/lugols.htm
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Foods, Drugs and Chemicals that can strain your thyroid.

Any of the following can interfere with the smooth working of the gland, or at least upset the tests:
  • Prozac (Fluoxetine Hydrocholoride) – Eli Lilly, the company that produces Prozac, state that hypothyroidism has been seen infrequently in clinical trials
  • Tolbutamide (Rastinon), for diabetes
  • Chlorpropamide (Diabinese), also for diabetes
  • Phenylbutazone (Butacote) for ankylosing spondylitis
  • Diazepam (Valium) for anxiety
  • Heparin, to prevent clotting in heart problems. Blood thinning drugs like Warfarin, Coumadin or Heparin can on occasion become stronger in the system when thyroid hormone is added to the mix.
  • Lithium (Priadel) to prevent relapse in psychiatric illness. More than a third of people taking lithium develop an underactive thyroid
  • Beta blockers (e.g. Inderal,) for high blood pressure
  • Salicylates, including aspirin (e.g. Disprin), a pain killer
  • Steroids (e.g. prednisolone) for any severe physical reaction
  • Phenothiazines (e.g. Largactil) major tranquillisers
  • Amiloride (e.g. Moduretic) a water tablet
  • Androgens (e.g. testosterone) male sex hormone
  • Tamoxifen, an anti-oestrogen to ward off breast cancer
  • Sulphonamides (Diamox) for glaucoma and fluid retention
  • Resorcinol (Anusol) used for piles
  • PAS for tuberculosis
All of these medicines suppress thyroid activity, so that the level of T4 in the blood is low, even if the gland is perfectly healthy. Sometimes, particularly with lithium, long-term thyroid lack of the Hashimoto type develops.

The following medicines have a different effect:
  • Phenytoin and related medicines – these anticonvulsants, used to control epilepsy, use up the thyroid hormones unusually quickly, and this may cause a shortage.
  • Carbamazepine (Tegretol) – this anticonvulsant inhibits the release of T4 into the blood
  • Co-trimoxazole (Septrin) – for urinary infections – also inhibits the release of T4 into the blood
  • Levodopa (Sinemet) and bromocriptine (Parlodel) are both used for Parkinson’s disease and both stop the stimulating action of TSH, leading to T4 and T3 lack.
  • Epinephrine – Anaesthetic used by dentists (Adreneline)
Medicines that seem to increase T4 and T3:

(Although neither actually stimulates the production of more hormones)
  • Fruseminde-type water tablets (e.g. Lasix) by getting rid of fluid, make the blood more concentrated so there is more of the hormones per millilitre.
  • Oestrogen (in the contraceptive pill and HRT), provides more of the transport protein
Medicines containing iodine.

Be wary of these if you have ever had a thyroid problem, and think if it could be your thyroid if you get some puzzling symptoms when you are taking one of them. These medicines are liable to give your thyroid more iodine than it can cope with. It may react by going into overdrive and producing too much hormone, with anxiety and palpitations in consequence, especially to start with. The usual end result, however, is near-complete downing of tools by the gland so that it runs into obvious underactivity, and general bodily slowing up.
  • Amiodarine (Cordarone X) is an excellent medicine for tricky faults in the rhythm of the heart, but it causes thyroid problems in 6% of people taking it. These may be due to either under or overactivity, with totally different symptoms: snail-pace or edgy speed. Since it takes a long time to clear amiodarone from the circulation, and anyway it may be vital for the heart, it is usually best to continue with it, but help the thyroid with other drugs. These will be thyroxine in the case of underactivity, or an antithyroid such as Carbimazole in the opposite situation.
  • Cough medicines containing iodides – including over the counter preparations – are not for you if you’ve ever had a thyroid problem.
  • X-ray contrast media, given for instance for gall-bladder investigation.
  • Povidone skin antiseptic (Betadine) and tincture of iodine. Very little iodine is likely to get into the system from these but they should be avoided during pregnancy.
  • Multivitamin/multimineral health pills.
Oestrogen

Any oestrogen raises the levels although thyroid activity is unchanged. This could make your levels look within the normal range, whereas they are really below it. Oestrogen provides more of the transport protein, making the hormone inactive. After starting on any oestrogen therapy, a woman should always have TSH tested to see if the oestrogen is having an impact on overall TSH and thyroid function and might require a dosage adjustment.
  • Prempak C/Premanin etc. – HRT made from mares urine and interferes with thyroid availability.
Amiodarone hydrocholoride

This is an anti-arrythmic and should not be given to patients with thyroid disorders. If you are on this drug you should be regularly tested for thyroid disease.

Oxymetazoline Hydrochloride

A sympathomimetic, an alpha-adrenoreceptor stimulant used in nasal decongestants. This drug works indirectly through the release of Noradrenaline from sympathetic nerve endings. This drug should have a warning on to administer with caution to patients with heart, kidney and thyroid disorders, diabetes and hypertension.

Insulin and similar oral hypoglycaemic drugs

Given for diabetes, this can reduce the effectiveness of thyroid hormone. Be sure your doctor knows you are on one before prescribing the other. If you on insulin or an oral hypoglycaemic, you should be closely watched during the initiation of thyroid replacement hormone.

Antacids

Most of these contain aluminium hydroxide which is well known for reducing the body's ability to absorb thyroxine.

Cholesterol-Lowering drugs

These drugs bind thyroid hormones, and a minimum of four to five hours should elapse between taking these drugs and thyroid hormones

Salicylates

Salicylate is a term used to describe a group of drugs that are chemically related to salicylic acid, which is a simple, single-ringed organic molecule that occurs naturally as a component of salicylin (a glucoside found in Willow Bark) and methyl salicylate (in Oil of Wintergreen). These natural products are usually used in the treatment of Rheumatism. However, in 1899 the semi synthetic drug Acetylsalicylic acid was introduced under the name Aspirin.

Drugs Containing Salicylates:
  • Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) Salicylic acid Methyl Salicylate (Oil of Wintergreen) Sodium Salicylate
  • Diflunisal
Unwanted Effects:

Salicylates can cause various metabolic changes such as changes in acid-base balance and electrolyte balance, which can, in turn, alter blood pressure and heart rate. However, mechanism of action seems to be as follows in respect of the thyroid hormones.

Thyroxine hormone binds to certain hormones in the blood called TBG Proteins. However, thyroxine can be displaced from TBG Proteins by certain substances such as drugs. In addition, if the amount of TBG Protein changes, this will alter the amount of thyroxine in the blood.

Some products used to treat acne and skin disorders contain Salicylates, but since these are used topically as are Oil of Wintergreen (typically found in Relax, Deep Heat etc.) we do not know what effects these have on the thyroid.

PLEASE SEEK YOUR DOCTOR’S ADVICE BEFORE STOPPING ANY MEDICATION!

FOODS TO BE AWARE OF:

“Goitrogenic Foods”
Goitrogenic foods can act like an antithyroid drug in disabling the thyroid function. They prevent the thyroid from using available iodine. It is made worse if you use a lot of salt because that causes the thyroid to swell. Do not eat these in large amounts if you are taking thyroid hormone replacement. It is thought that the enzymes involved in the formation of goitrogenic materials in plants can be destroyed by cooking, so cook these foods thoroughly if you want to eat them.
  • brussel sprouts, rutabaga, turnips, cauliflower, cabbage and kale almonds, peanuts and walnuts sweet corn, sorghum and millet soya – this combined with a high fibre diet causes too much thyroid hormone and iodine to be excreted from the body
  • raw Swedes, turnips and kale - These are sometimes fed to cattle and comes to us via their milk products.
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I read about this a bit back, the suggestion offered was dulse as it has high levels of natural iodine.

here's a bit of info about it:

Dulse (Dillisk, Sea Grass, or Palmaria Palmata) is a variety of seaweed derived from the colder waters of the North Atlantic and Northwest Pacific Oceans. Dulse attaches to rocks by means of a holdfast and is a red or purplish color. Because of its high levels of natural iodine and rich mineral content it is used favorably as a dietary supplement and medicinally as a treatment for thyroid disorders. In addition to its high iodine levels, it is a rich source of potassium, zinc, manganese, iron, magnesium, vitamin A, vitamin B1 (thiamin), vitamin B2 (riboflavin), vitamin B6 (pyridoxine), vitamin C (absorbic acid), calcium, and vitamin E.

Because thyroid disease often is precipitated by low iodine levels, many individuals suffering from hyperthyroidism or hypothyroidism benefit from supplementing with dulse. Although iodine is added to our common table salt, it is in synthetic form, devoid of any natural minerals to aid in its absorption.

http://www.marysgarden.com/colostrum/dulse.htm

uk supplier http://www.goodnessdirect.co.uk/cgi-...Dulse_50g.html

us supplier http://www.starwest-botanicals.com/category/dulse-leaf/
I just received the dulse today and checked it out, very yummy and more-ish, presumably because my body is craving for the iodine and other good stuff in it.

I've eaten quite a bit of it, just chewing on it raw, really nice, will buy some more when it's running out.

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Foods, Drugs and Chemicals that can strain your thyroid.

  • brussel sprouts, rutabaga, turnips, cauliflower, cabbage and kale almonds, peanuts and walnuts sweet corn, sorghum and millet soya – this combined with a high fibre diet causes too much thyroid hormone and iodine to be excreted from the body
  • raw Swedes, turnips and kale - These are sometimes fed to cattle and comes to us via their milk products.
Those are pretty much most of my favourite foods apart from the soya, sweet corn, sorghum and millet. I eat cabbage, kale, cauliflower and loads of green veg and all sort of nuts quite a lot, in fact, those and sea food is pretty much what I eat most of the time
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Those are pretty much most of my favourite foods apart from the soya, sweet corn, sorghum and millet. I eat cabbage, kale, cauliflower and loads of green veg and all sort of nuts quite a lot, in fact, those and sea food is pretty much what I eat most of the time
Okay, that was a page from the Thyroid.co.uk website.

By the looks of it, it does not mention that you should be fine when these items are cooked.

If you eat them raw more than 4 times in a week then they will definitely interfere with the thyroid gland.

Peanuts will definitely interfere with the thyroid if eaten in any form.

Soy, any soy - you should never touch it, is the advice - poison to the thyroid gland. Although I do occasionally have soy sauce. Moderation is the key, I suppose.

Sometimes it can be a bit tricky because there is conflicting information out there.
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I just received the dulse today and checked it out, very yummy and more-ish, presumably because my body is craving for the iodine and other good stuff in it.

I've eaten quite a bit of it, just chewing on it raw, really nice, will buy some more when it's running out.
Dulse:

http://www.florahealth.com/flora/hom...dias/Dulse.htm

By the looks of it only about 0.10% iodine.
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Dulse:

http://www.florahealth.com/flora/hom...dias/Dulse.htm

By the looks of it only about 0.10% iodine.
Yep, very low, but contains other stuff too. I love the taste of it, so it looks like additional iodine plus this kind of stuff to get a good level.

I'm intending to by some magnascent stuff too soon, that should be interesting.
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