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Old 15-01-2010, 05:32 PM   #61
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in other words it backs up your prejudice ?
I find it to be very factual.
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Old 15-01-2010, 05:36 PM   #62
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By Murray Wardrop
Published: 7:30AM GMT 04 Jan 2010

Illegal immigrants employed at UK Border Agency

Illegal immigrants have been employed at Government offices – including the headquarters of the Home Office and the UK Border Agency, it has been disclosed.

Ten foreign workers illegally obtained jobs at Becket House, the south London headquarters of the UK Border Agency, which vets immigrants.

A further two illegal immigrants managed to find work at the Home Office’s Whitehall HQ – one of whom was even employed as a security guard.

Hundreds more have been employed at 34 local authorities and 54 NHS trusts across the country, figures released under the Freedom of Information Act show.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...er-Agency.html
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Old 15-01-2010, 05:36 PM   #63
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I find it to be very factual.
you are not here to debate just to preach and rant, I say that because you are not interested in anyone else opinion unless it backs up your own.
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Old 15-01-2010, 05:50 PM   #64
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Daniel Ubani, 66, had flown in from Germany and was working his first shift for an out-of-hours care provider when he injected David Gray with 100mg of the drug - 10 times the recommended daily dose, Mr Gray's family's solicitors have said.

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By Caroline Gammell, in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire
Published: 5:30PM GMT 15 Jan 2010

Two more patients given overdoses by out-of-hours service
Two patients treated by the same out of hours GP service as a pensioner injected with a fatal overdose had been given “dangerous” doses months earlier, an inquest heard yesterday.

It also emerged that senior management at the company responsible for supplying the doctors had expressed concerns at the time that financial pressures were threatening patient care.

TAKE CARE NOW(a joke), employed Dr Daniel Ubani, a German doctor who killed David Gray with 100mg of Diamorphine in February 2008.

The 70year old, who suffered from kidney stones and renal pain, was given up to 20 times the recommended dose and died soon after the doctor left his home in Manea, Cambridgeshire.

At the inquest into his death at Wisbech Magistrates Court, in emerged that 2 other patients had also been given large doses of Diamorphine by doctors working for TCN in the months leading up to Mr Grays death.

The first case, in April 2007 involved a patient suffering severe back pain who received 30mg of Diamorphine and a 999 call needed to be made.

The second incident, in August 2007, involved a patient being given 30mg of Diamorphine when the correct dose should have been between 2.5 and 5mg.

In both cases, the injections were “thought to be dangerous and inappropriate”, the hearing was told.

Dr Ubani, 67, was working on his first shift in the UK when he administered the fatal dose to Mr Gray.

The inquest has heard how the Nigerian born doctor, from Witten, nr Dusseldorf, was “exhausted” by the time he saw any patients.

He had flown to the UK the night before and been given 4 hours inductions, which ended at 10pm.

Eleven days after Mr Gray died, a senior clinical director at TCN wrote to "all colleagues" warning that standards were in danger of "slipping".

Dr Christopher Browning, clinical governance lead, at the company, said "it has become clear that there are a few places where our patient care is at risk of slipping.

"As the level of medical care has been reduced due to financial pressure, there has been an attempt to reduce the number of triages which have 'visit' as an outcome."

In bold print he added "Please prescribe simple, generic drugs wherever possible. Please prescribe conventional doses as listed in the British National Formulary."

The inquest is also investigating Dr Ubani's treatments of two further patients seen on the same day as Mr Gray, one of whom subsequently died.

Dr Ubani, who refused to give evidence at the hearing, despite being summoned by the coroner William Morris, was employed by TCN in 2008.

TCN was subcontracted by the Cambridgeshire PCT to cover out of hours shifts at the weekends.

Dr Ubani did not have to undertake an English language test or any clinical assessment in the UK because he was a doctor within the EU.

Dr Edward Reynolds, medical director of On Call Care Ltd, was asked to look into the checks that were made on Dr Ubani.

He said the doctor specialised in cosmetic surgery and had carried out very little GP work with no experience in areas such as Paediatric.

“His CV is full of alarm bells,” he told the hearing. “If it had been presented to me, I would not have wished to hire this doctor.”

Dr Reynolds said because Dr Ubani had been registered by the Cornwall PCT as a doctor within the EU, he was entitled to work anywhere in the country without further assessment.

In his evidence, he said there was a lack of understanding in Europe as to the type of Opiate painkiller drugs used by their counterparts in the UK.

“This tragic case has really highlighted the difference in professional process in Europe as opposed to this country in terms of the use of strong drugs.

“I am quite convinced that this case will change that understanding.”

The inquest continues.

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Old 15-01-2010, 06:03 PM   #65
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you are not here to debate just to preach and rant, I say that because you are not interested in anyone else opinion unless it backs up your own.
Yes and the same could be said about the "PRO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT" people in here....birds of the same feather tend to flock together.... and there is nothing wrong with that.

Why is someone automatically racist or prejudice when they simply do not agree with "illegal" immigration???
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Old 15-01-2010, 06:09 PM   #66
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Why is someone automatically racist or prejudice when they simply do not agree with "illegal" immigration???
Political correctness leading to a 'divide and rule' situation?
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Old 15-01-2010, 06:12 PM   #67
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I find it to be very factual.
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Old 15-01-2010, 06:15 PM   #68
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they have no right to be racist...Italians are such a gypsy nation..
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Old 15-01-2010, 06:46 PM   #69
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Several people have been injured in rioting that broke out in southern Italy after an attack on immigrant farm workers by local youths.
The migrants, mainly Africans, clashed with police after taking to the streets of the Calabrian town of Rosarno.
They were protesting after youths in a car used air rifles to shoot and hurt several immigrants returning from working on the farms.
Once a fascist nation, always a fascist nation. Just like the Dutch. Never really processed all the colonialism and the slave-driving, so they still have a tendency towards slave-driving to this day.
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Old 15-01-2010, 06:51 PM   #70
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Don't be ignorant Luka!!!!!!! You want racist, try going to a norhtern Italian city such as Turin or Milan!!! The Calabrese people of southern Italy are actually very accepting and hospitable to foreigners....I was there in July and seen first hand...How many of you people here have been to Calabria in the past 2 years??? I hardly recognized the place for all of the Africans walking around....Maybe the Calabrese people should be happy that the ILLEGAL immigrants are not only costing them thousands perhaps millions of dollars in order to be housed, clothed and fed (tax money)?? Should they simply turn another cheek when the rates of theft, panhandling, intimidation and other various crimes increase due to their new visitors??? Finally the people of Calabria have had enough and unfortunatley turned their frustration against the ILLEGAL immigrants when they should have turned it towards the government stooges that created the whole situation in the first place....
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Old 15-01-2010, 06:52 PM   #71
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Once a fascist nation, always a fascist nation. Just like the Dutch. Never really processed all the colonialism and the slave-driving, so they still have a tendency towards slave-driving to this day.
i'm learning a lot about my country, thank you guys
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Old 15-01-2010, 06:56 PM   #72
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Once a fascist nation, always a fascist nation. Just like the Dutch. Never really processed all the colonialism and the slave-driving, so they still have a tendency towards slave-driving to this day.
You are so ignorant I don't even know where to begin.

Southern Italy is anything but fascist. Have you ever even been there? A communist like youtrself would actually probably love it as the communist party is still alive and well there.

What country do you come from that is so un-fascist please tell?
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Old 15-01-2010, 07:08 PM   #73
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Default so, only white people are racist?



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picture of illegal immigrant black man being burned alive BY OTHER LOCAL BLACK PEOPLE in south africa:
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"Xenophobic attacks in South Africa draw condemnation from UN agency

20 November 2009 – The United Nations refugee agency today condemned the latest xenophobic attacks that have driven some 3,000 foreigners, including refugees and asylum-seekers from Zimbabwe, from a community in South Africa.
The incident is the first large-scale xenophobic attack affecting refugees and asylum-seekers in South Africa since May 2008, according to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR), which is sending staff to De Dooms, a farming community 140 kilometres northeast of Cape Town, to work with local authorities to make it safe for foreigners to return there.

“We have moved quickly to help the displaced,” said UNHCR spokesperson Andrej Mahecic. “They are now awaiting the outcome of negotiations with local farmers who attacked their homes on Tuesday, accusing them of stealing their jobs by accepting cheaper wages in vineyards.”

Mr. Mahecic told a news conference in Geneva that documented refugees and asylum-seekers have the legal right to work in South Africa, but tensions often erupt over competition for jobs.

Those evicted are now staying in a sports field and a community centre in De Doorns, sleeping under three communal tents – each sheltering 1,000 people – supplied by the Government, and receiving meals from the South African Red Cross. UNHCR has donated smaller family tents to help ensure privacy for the families.

The agency welcomed the rapid humanitarian response of the local authorities and the fact that water, portable toilets and a mobile health clinic were provided within hours.

UNHCR has been supporting efforts to combat xenophobia in the country, where some 45,000 people were uprooted and 62 killed, according to Government estimates, after tensions between South Africans and foreigners erupted into violence in May 2008."

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"Xenophobic attacks rise again in South Africa

The racist attacks or as many call it xenophobic attacks have started again in South Africa, about 2500 Zimbabwean migrants had to take shelter and refuge at government buildings in De Doorns. This small farming community is seeing the rise of the xenophobic attacks where not only Zimbabweans have lost their houses but migrants and immigrants from all over Africa.

Stofland was the place where the attacks started in the early hours of this morning 17 November, all the displaced that are documented however only come from Zimbabwe. The people that attacked the Zimbabweans were angry because the Zimbabweans work for less money thereby stealing jobs from South African citizens according to some locals.

The locals also warned the Zimbabweans not to go to work today or face persecution. This is gross reminder of what happened last year when the entire world saw the guy burning in the flames of hate while police tried to put the fires out around the country. Last year's xenophobia attacks caused the deaths of more than 70 people and also seen the displacement of over 120 000 people"

Zimbabwean Emigrating To South Africa
Thousands flee S Africa attacks

Some 6,000 people have fled a wave of attacks on foreigners in South Africa, which has left at least 22 dead, aid workers say.

"This is a classic refugee situation," Rachel Cohen from Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) told the BBC.

Many of those who have sought refuge in police stations, churches and community halls are Zimbabweans, who have fled violence and poverty at home.

Up to three million Zimbabweans are thought to be in South Africa.

The BBC's Caroline Hawley in Johannesburg says the immigrants have become a scapegoat for social problems, such as unemployment, crime and a lack of housing.

Mobs of South Africans continue to roam around some townships near Johannesburg, looking for foreigners and looting their shops.

But there have also been attacks on South Africans from other parts of the country, especially from near the Zimbabwean border.

Over the weekend, correspondents say central Johannesburg resembled a war-zone, as armed police used tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse angry crowds.


If we go back into the streets, they're going to kill us there," one Zimbabwean man seeking sanctuary in a police station told the BBC.

Some Zimbabweans say they will go home, despite the political violence there, rather than face attacks in South Africa.

The front pages of several South African newspapers on Monday show a horrific image of a man being burnt to death.

The police say they have made more than 200 arrests for crimes including murder, rape and robbery.

"We're not talking about xenophobia, we're talking about criminality," said police spokesman Govindsamy Mariemuthoo.

He said police reservists and officers from other regions had been called in to help quell the violence, reports the AP news agency.

Loren Landau, from the Wits University Forced Migration Studies Programme, said the nature of the attacks was changing.

"We're seeing what was an anti-foreigner conflict transforming into what might be seen as an ethnic conflict," he told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme, pointing to the attacks on South Africans.

He also said much of the violence was "opportunistic crime".

'State of emergency'

A church where about 1,000 Zimbabweans have been taking refuge was attacked over the weekend.

Bishop Paul Veryn of the Central Methodist Church which was attacked told SABC radio: "We consider that the situation is getting so serious that the police can no longer control it."

He called for a state of emergency to be declared."


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Anti Immigration Violence - South Africa


Illegal Immigrants under attack in South Africa

Anti-Immigrant Violence in South Africa


South African immigrants afraid to return home ...

Xenophobic violence erupts in South Africa

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So what are we learning here? That people, no matter what colour of their skin, are intolerant of others from different 'tribes'.

Maybe it's all just human nature? Maybe we should just accept that people will find someone to distrust/dislike no matter how trivial the reason given. Be it the colour of skin, the village they come from, the class they were born into, their religion etc. etc.

Is this 'tribalism' too ingrained in human nature to be turned around?
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Old 15-01-2010, 08:20 PM   #76
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I think what we are learning is that all races are racist etc but only whites get hit with the label and subjected to a form of anti white bigotry.

This one hour film is very good at showing how this effects us and how we are victimised by this.

Although 60 minutes long, it is well worth viewing and very interesting.


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Old 15-01-2010, 08:25 PM   #77
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So what are we learning here? That people, no matter what colour of their skin, are intolerant of others from different 'tribes'.

Maybe it's all just human nature? Maybe we should just accept that people will find someone to distrust/dislike no matter how trivial the reason given. Be it the colour of skin, the village they come from, the class they were born into, their religion etc. etc.

Is this 'tribalism' too ingrained in human nature to be turned around?

Way to miss the point, or to deliberately not see it.
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only whites get hit with the label and subjected to a form of anti white bigotry.
Is that true? Or is it just the way you see it through 'white' eyes? Are you certain that this doesn't happen in other cultures/countries?
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Way to miss the point, or to deliberately not see it.
Enlighten me then. What is the point I am missing?
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Is that true?
Watch the video and decide for yourself.

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