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Old 25-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #61
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LOL. There's so many scenarios were that would be completely useless if you never had a greater running speed speed than your attacker(s.)
But parkour is not just running away. It is an efficient way of overcoming obstacles. If you can climb a 10-foot wall in seconds even the vegan runner Carl Lewis wouldn't be able to catch you. You could scale high walls, jump from high buildings (without hurting yourself) vault over fences and leave Lewis in your dust.

If you can't run away, you must fight. Either that or make friends with the vegan Mike Tyson and never go anywhere without him.
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Old 25-08-2013, 04:41 PM   #62
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Unless it's a hardback, I doubt that is going to be much of a weapon, so you can pick up a Metro for free, roll it up, fold it in half, and it's just as effective and much cheaper than a Bruce Lee paperback.
You sound like you're easy to punch

But jokes aside its an awesome book, as much philosophy as it is technique, deffinetly worth checking out.

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Old 25-08-2013, 07:22 PM   #63
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Talking about being easy to punch, here's one bloke who's not - he is extremely good at dodging punches, supposing it's genuine which it looks to be. He also has some good tips in his other videos.

The video on youtube is called:
How To Win A Street Fight WIth Head Movement, Learn Simple (But Awesome) Street Fighting Techniques
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Old 26-08-2013, 03:45 AM   #64
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[QUOTE=tom bombadil;1061692448]Carrying with intent is one thing but reporting a crime is another.

I was thinking THEM REPORTING YOU Tom!!! You know the Ratboys script,"Ah know ma rights innit yeah?".

What you are doing is very bad I really frown on it and I certainly wouldn't be recommending mad dog 357 pepper extract at 4 million scovilles http://www.hotsauceemporium.co.uk/detail.php?prodID=95
to someone as naughty as you.

If u use this on 3 or so little darlings you will probably get charged with ABH / GBH
(though this'll depend on the specific circumstances of how/where /what was the purpose in using it)

also its a section 7 (i think!) firearm, and u can be prosecuted just for possessing it!

The only way you could conceivibly can use a weapon like this, is if you were not carrying it! The way the system works is if you were carrying something for another (legitimate) purpose and were forced to use it to defend yourself (or your family), then thats just about acceptable, but if you were carrying it for use as a weapon in case you got attacked, then that isn't.

just one more thing, if say, you were attacked, and you by chance happened to spot a aerosol can (like the one described above) AND HAD NO IDEA AS TO THE CONTENTS and then pleaded, utter shock and ignorance that it contained pepper spray of all things! and there wasn't too many of your finger prints on it and your acting skills arent to shabby then the police could conceivably buy your version of events but I really think it's a stupid idea and not worth the risk.

If the scratters are going to do you then you probably won't have time to put your hands in your pockets rummage around and ignore key's wallet,phone,extra strong mints etc. Maybe something around your neck might be better? hint hint.

Exercise common sense and despite liberal leanings incorporate some form of racial profiling in your street awareness and you should never be dumb enough to walk into a situation you cannot get out of. Krav Maga is awesome by the way ANYONE can pick excellent tips from it much recommended if you are more experienced in Martial Arts check out Silat it's utterly fascinating as well as a bit naughty.

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Old 26-08-2013, 09:39 AM   #65
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Carrying with intent is one thing but reporting a crime is another.

I was thinking THEM REPORTING YOU Tom!!! You know the Ratboys script,"Ah know ma rights innit yeah?".

What you are doing is very bad I really frown on it and I certainly wouldn't be recommending mad dog 357 pepper extract at 4 million scovilles http://www.hotsauceemporium.co.uk/detail.php?prodID=95
to someone as naughty as you.

If u use this on 3 or so little darlings you will probably get charged with ABH / GBH
(though this'll depend on the specific circumstances of how/where /what was the purpose in using it)

also its a section 7 (i think!) firearm, and u can be prosecuted just for possessing it!

The only way you could conceivibly can use a weapon like this, is if you were not carrying it! The way the system works is if you were carrying something for another (legitimate) purpose and were forced to use it to defend yourself (or your family), then thats just about acceptable, but if you were carrying it for use as a weapon in case you got attacked, then that isn't.

just one more thing, if say, you were attacked, and you by chance happened to spot a aerosol can (like the one described above) AND HAD NO IDEA AS TO THE CONTENTS and then pleaded, utter shock and ignorance that it contained pepper spray of all things! and there wasn't too many of your finger prints on it and your acting skills arent to shabby then the police could conceivably buy your version of events but I really think it's a stupid idea and not worth the risk.

If the scratters are going to do you then you probably won't have time to put your hands in your pockets rummage around and ignore key's wallet,phone,extra strong mints etc. Maybe something around your neck might be better? hint hint.

Exercise common sense and despite liberal leanings incorporate some form of racial profiling in your street awareness and you should never be dumb enough to walk into a situation you cannot get out of. Krav Maga is awesome by the way ANYONE can pick excellent tips from it much recommended if you are more experienced in Martial Arts check out Silat it's utterly fascinating as well as a bit naughty.
I do see your point. But I will put it another way.

If the attacker was carrying a gun. And one managed to turn it on them, and then live in remorse () for the rest of ones life, then one would not be going to jail.

If an attacker that was in my home was attacked by me with what was ever to hand, including what they came in with, again it would not be me in the dock.

Just because I have a few choice things laying around my home does not make me an attacker with intent.

Just because I happen to find that one of those peperspray things on one of my attackers does not make me guilty. These buggers might do anything to fit me up. Unless I agree to what their solicitor says then I am not going to jail.

Also, I bite and punch and kick and stab and grab and tear and rip...and anything to not lose.

I was not the attacker, I was defending myself from them. At no point did I attack, so their solicotor can just give that one up now.

I have heard in an interview with the cops how they try and turn things on its head. Its when you agree with them (the cops) that such and such happened that folk put themselves before the judge.

I dont have to say much to the cops. I dont have to sign much before the cops. I just have to be there to represent myself in the court.

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.......

If an attacker that was in my home was attacked by me with what was ever to hand, including what they came in with, again it would not be me in the dock.

Just because I have a few choice things laying around my home does not make me an attacker with intent. ....... ,

If you were attacked in your home,
and successfully defended yourself,
and the attacker were to demise (!)
why would you even tell the police,
or anybody at all for that matter?

Just bury the future compost
and enjoy the beans etc next year.

That way the naughty person makes a positive contribution,
and you avoid any 'imperial entaglements'.
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Old 26-08-2013, 10:31 AM   #67
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http://archive.org/stream/TheSASSelf...e/n45/mode/2up

pressure points



It seems a kubaton is something with a sharp(ish) point such as a pen, key, knife, metal nail, sharpened stick or if none of these type of things are available a knuckle or jab with a fingertip will probably do the job.

I think knowing a few pressure points is handy.
Also a long piece of cloth like an army sweat rag etc can be handy to use as a sling to launch stones/rocks.

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Old 26-08-2013, 11:27 AM   #68
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You sound like you're easy to punch
Only if you've got Mayweather speed, or don't mind taking one to land one.


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But jokes aside its an awesome book, as much philosophy as it is technique, deffinetly worth checking out.
I've no doubt it is. Bruce's ideas about unarmed combat are the core of today's mma scene and if there's anything he didn't know about the art of fighting without reliance on a gun, I'd be interested to hear it.
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Old 26-08-2013, 07:50 PM   #69
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Tom you said-
I have heard in an interview with the cops how they try and turn things on its head. Its when you agree with them (the cops) that such and such happened that folk put themselves before the judge.

I dont have to say much to the cops. I dont have to sign much before the cops. I just have to be there to represent myself in the court.

Stickwhister you said-
If you were attacked in your home,
and successfully defended yourself,
and the attacker were to demise (!)
why would you even tell the police,
or anybody at all for that matter?

Just bury the future compost
and enjoy the beans etc next year.

That way the naughty person makes a positive contribution,
and you avoid any 'imperial entaglements'.

In response Brendan Behan once said there is no situation so bad that it cannot be made worse by the arrival of a policeman.

Tell them nothing if at all humanly possible they do not serve us,protect us or give a damn about us I learned the hard way some time ago if you have a crime committed against you take it on the chin or sort it yourself. As the half son of a copper I'm sorry to say it.

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The creator of DI Jack frost, RD Wingfield, explains in today's Daily Mail just why he is killing off his creation. Wingfield recounts the story of how hiw nephew was arrested, handcuffed and held in custody over a crime he didn't commit - the theft of a £30 battery charger.

Wingfield is the latest in an ever increasing number of people who no longer have faith in the police. Why is this? And does it matter if the people do not have faith in the police?

In 1829, when Sir Robert Peel established the Metropolitan Police Force, he laid down nine principles.

1 - The basic mission for which the police exist is to prevent crime and disorder.

To "prevent crime and disorder". It is vital to understand this point - that the purpose of the police is to prevent, not just to detect, crime and disorder - not just crime. Do the police actively attempt to prevent crime today? No. Police crime prevention relies heavily on passive systems such as CCTV or burglar alarms. The police themselves are a purely reactive force, responding to reports of a crime (sometimes), but making no effort to prevent that crime from taking place. Nor do the police make any effort to prevent disorder. How many times have we heard them say something like "we can't take any action until a crime has actually been committed"? Not true. They can - and Peel's principles insist they should - take action by making the effort to prevent disorder. The preferred method for doing this was foot patrols by police constables. These were very effective, but in the 1960's the police changed - with a complete disregard for Peel's first principle - from being a proactive force to a reactive force.

2 - The ability of the police to perform their duties is dependent upon the public approval of police actions.

Whether deliberate or not, this second principle follows on from the first so perfectly it's almost uncanny. Without public approval the police become increasingly ineffective. Public approval comes from a number of things, but most of all, and most obviously, from the absence of crime and disorder. Disorder can mean any number of things - obvious things like gangs of unruly youths or noisy, disruptive parties, but also the less obvious such asgraffitii or broken windows. The police will claim - quite rightly - that it is not their job to clean upgraffitii or replace broken windows, but it most definitely istheirr job to prevent these things. When it is apparent that they are failing to do this, then public approval of their actions goes down. Public approval is further diminished by the use of such things as speed cameras which are seen as intrusive and punitive on the law abiding majority.

3 - Police must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observation of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public.

Once again, Peel's ability to flow his principles so adroitly belies the apparent simplicity of them. Quite simply, once the police ability to prevent crime and disorder appears to diminish - and along with it the public approval drops - then their ability to secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observation of the law goes down along with respect for the police.

4 - The degree of co-operation of the public that can be secured diminishes proportionately to the necessity of the use of physical force.

Likewise, as respect for the police and law drops so the need for the use of physical force in imposing law and order increases - whether it is arresting drunks on a Friday night or clubbing protesters over the head with batons. It's not helped either by the illusion of force created by the way the police dress. Paramilitary style uniforms, stab vests and, increasingly, guns convey an image of a police ready to use force as a first rather than last resort.

5 - Police seek and preserve public favor not by catering to public opinion, but by constantly demonstrating absolute impartial service to the law.

Again, its so obvious isn't it? But do the police follow it? Well, when muslim protesters demonstrated in London carrying captions calling for the beheading and murder of people who "insult" Islam, the reaction of the police was to do nothing. They did nothing, not because there was no law being broken - there clearly was - but because they are concerned about the opinion of a particular section of the population.

6 - Police use physical force to the extent necessary to secure observance of the law or to restore order only when the exercise of persuasion, advice, and warning is found to be insufficient.

So force should only be used once attempts of persuasion, advice and warning have been exhausted - and note that this not just to "secure observation of the law", but to "restore order" too. Once again, Peel makes it clear that the role of the police is not just to uphold the law, but to preserve or restore order. So next time a bunch of kids are running riot on your estate and the police say they can't do anything unless an actual crime has been committed, remind them of Peel's principles. THIS IS THEIR JOB. On the subject of the use of force only after other avenues have been found wanting, can the police honestly say that they do this? In direct contrast to the muslim protest mentioned above we had the pro-hunting protest a year or so before where the police clearly used force as a first alternative rather than the last.

7 - Police, at all times, should maintain a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and the public are the police; the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent upon every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

This is such an important principle, but it often gets overlooked. The police like nothing more than to remind us not to take matters into our own hands but to let them deal with it in their way. But Peel's 7th principle makes it quite clear that it is the duty of all citizens to police their community. As such, we too have the right to use force "to the extent necessary" once persuasion, advice and warning have proved insufficient - and that includes restoring or maintaining order. So you do have the right to clip some brat round the ear if they refuse to stop lobbing bricks through your windows.

8 - Police should always direct their action strictly towards their functions, and never appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary.

It's probably fair to say that the police do not appear to usurp the powers of the judiciary, but whether they always direct their actions strictly towards their functions is questionable in a police force that has become increasingly politicised. Too often, the police direct their actions to what is considered to be politically correct rather than strictly towards their functions (to prevent crime and disorder). Senior police officers frequently make statements of a political nature which they simply do not have the right to do - for example, when Sir Ian Blair, Britain's most senior policeman claimed that the media was "institutionally racist" in the way it reports murders. As a member of the public, Sir Ian has a right to an opinion, but as a member of the police force, he has no right to express it.

9 - The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it.

Bringing us back full circle to principle number 1, Peel encapsulates perfectly what the real measure of the police should be. Not massaged or managed statistics, but the actual absence of crime and disorder. The publication of targets - and results against targets - are the sort of "visible evidence" that Peel is fervently opposed to. The police force (and government) can make all the claims and publish all the statistics they want, but until we,the public, can actually say that crime and disorder are largely absent from our streets then they will be failing in their mission.

It is my belief that the police could go along way to restoring it's reputation and efficiency by going back to these basic and common sense principles. Every police officer should carry a copy with them at all times and every senior officer should have them prominently displayed in his office as a reminder of just what it is they are supposed to do - prevent crime and disorder.

Incidentally, if you search the internet, you will find a number of different versions of "Peel's principles" altered to reflect modern political correctness or police priorities. Ignore them. As far as I am aware, the principles listed above are as Peel wrote them - and as such are the only real Peelian Principles.
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Old 26-08-2013, 08:05 PM   #70
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If you were attacked in your home,
and successfully defended yourself,
and the attacker were to demise (!)
why would you even tell the police,
or anybody at all for that matter?

Just bury the future compost
and enjoy the beans etc next year.

That way the naughty person makes a positive contribution,
and you avoid any 'imperial entaglements'.
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Old 06-08-2014, 04:07 AM   #71
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For legal outdoor self defense weapons in the uk, there's a really effective and simple one. Probably best for somebody who is fearing/expecting a confrontation/attack:

A couple (or more) strong plastic plastic bags placed inside each other. Place 1 or 2 cans of tinned food inside, and wrap the handles around your hand once. Perfectly legal to carry it, yet a good swing and connection can make it a lethal weapon if need be in a self defence situation.

A good improvised legal outdoor weapon in the UK, is a belt, the heavier the belt and buckle, the better. Again, you can keep this on your person perfectly legally. Or it can be used just if you're wearing it and you have no other alternatives.
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You could try playing music out loud on your smart phone like Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus or Jedward. You wll find people will avoid you like the plague and give you a wide bearth
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Here's an interesting article shamelessly stolen from James Rawles' www.survivalblog.com covering self defense in states and countries that are not particularly "hand-gun friendly" (like the UK). I hope this is useful to you all. JP

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Thursday July 16 2009
Letter Re: Recommendations on Discreet Self Defense Weapons and Training

Mr. Rawles:
I am at a disadvantage to your American readers. I live in a suburb of London, and travel by train to work each day. Street crime is now out of control in some neighbourhoods, but I cannot carry a weapon. I must say that I'm envious of Americans that can carry concealed pistols and revolvers. Here, I cannot even carry a pocket knife. Are martial arts effective, and if they indeed are, then which one will be most effective with not too much time for training? What do you suggest? Thanking You in Advance, - G.H. in England

JWR Replies: I wrote the following for SurvivalBlog back in 2006. I'm re-posting it, along with an update, for the benefit of the many readers that have come on board more recently:

I highly recommend training to use a cane, walking stick, or a traditional full-length umbrella. This is particularly important for our readers like you that live in gun-unfriendly nations. Ditto for our readers that live in states like California, New York, and New Jersey where is is very difficult for mere mortals to get a carrying concealed weapon (CCW) permit. And even if you are a concealed firearms permit holder, you should learn these valuable skills. Why? You never know when circumstances might dictate that you cannot carry a pistol. (For example, when traveling to a state where your CCW permit is not valid, or when traveling overseas.)

Here is a forward from firearms instructor John Farnam, by way of SurvivalBlog reader Grampa Redd:

"I attended a stick/cane-fighting seminar yesterday, instructed by Peter Donello of Canemasters. Canemasters manufacturers high-quality canes and walking sticks and provides training in their use. However, I used my Cold Steel City Stick, as did several other students.

I was astonished at the number of effective moves available to the cane/stick fighter, certainly more than I can remember! Peter's knowledge is vast, and I did my best to catalog the few that I thought were most effective and easiest to learn. Range is the big advantage that canes have over blades and other impact weapons.

Striking and jabbing are still the premiere moves, easily done with nearly any style of cane. Some follow-up moves and holds and more comfortably accomplished with a hooked cane than with a straight stick, but either style works just fine. The real question is: What can I have with me most often that attracts the least attention?

This four-hour clinic is something I recommend to everyone. The cane is a wonderful, low-profile, yet extremely effective fighting tool that most people can fit into their lives with a minimum of lifestyle disruption. Most casual observers don't even notice when you have one with you and certainly don't believe them to represent a threat. Time well spent!"

As for walking stick designs: From what I have heard and observed here in the U.S., if you are well dressed and groomed, then law enforcement officers in most jurisdictions will hardly give you a second glance if you are carrying a walking stick. But if you are shabby looking and perceived as "riffraff", then expect to get plenty of grief. Canes, especially aluminum ones those that look like true walking aids, are far less likely to attract suspicion than walking sticks. I have an acquaintance who lives in Oakland, California who carries a dull silver aluminum cane with a big rubber tip. This cane looks very unobtrusive if not downright innocuous. It is not until you pick it up that you realize that it has been retrofitted with a 1/2"steel rod firmly epoxied into its hollow core. The phrase "the iron fist in the velvet glove" comes to mind!

I have another acquaintance that lives in a very rainy climate, near Seattle, Washington. He makes a habit of carrying a stout full length traditional umbrella whenever he gets out of his car. Aside for misplacing several umbrellas over the years (a fairly costly mistake, since he carries a big sturdy umbrella which cost around $60 each), he has had no trouble. (And, by God's grace, he has only had need to use it to protect himself from rain showers.) Nearly all of the stick/cane fighting techniques apply to folded umbrellas, and they can also be used quite effectively for jabbing.

My general preference is to use a shoulder-width two handed grip grip in most situations, to maintain control and more importantly to assure retention of the stick. This is akin to what has been taught for many years by police academies in the use of long ("riot") batons. The last thing that you want to happen is to have Mr. Bad Guy gain control of your weapon. If that were to happen, you would become he "Owie" recipient instead of the Owie distributor!

Do some research on your local laws. In most jurisdictions, any blow with a striking weapon to the neck or head is considered potentially lethal. Police academies emphasize this in their baton training. ("Never strike above the chest unless you you would in the same circumstances draw your pistol and fire.") So don't escalate to doing so unless you absolutely confident that your life is threatened and you have no other choice. (Essentially it is the same as firing a gun--at least in the eyes of the law.) It may sound sissified and a bit too prim, proper, and "Queensbury Rules", but most courts look at things in terms of equal force and a graduated response, roughly as follows: If Mr. Bad Guy uses his fists, then you can use your fists. If he uses a weapon, then you can use a like weapon. If he strikes above the chest, then you can strike above the chest. As a practical matter, there are no rules in trying to save your life in a street fight, but apparently there are in court houses, post facto. Yes, I realize that graduated response is not realistic to expect, since street fights are fast and furious. Most victims don't even recognize that their attacker is using a weapon until after the incident is over. (The classic victim's police statement is: "I thought that he was punching me until is saw the blood, and it wasn't until then that I realized he had used a knife on me.") But again, a graduated response is what courts will expect in order to make a ruling of justifiable force in self defense.

Don't forget that we live in a litigious era, so expect prosecution and/or a civil lawsuit in the event that you are forced to use a weapon in self defense, even if you were entirely in the right. Show restraint, and never deal out punishment. Just reduce the threat with a quick jab or two, disengage, and then engage your Nike-jitsu technique. (Run!)

If you get into an absolutely lethal brawl (a truly "kill or get killed" situation) and you cannot disengage, then by all means aim where you can do the most damage: The front or side of the neck. The human neck is soft tissue, a bundle of nerves, veins, arteries, and wind pipe. It is your surest target to end a fight quickly and decisively. (The same goes for hand-to-hand combat. Aim your punches at his throat.) But again, it is also your surest way to find your way to a courtroom. I can't stress this enough: show discretion!

When carrying a weapon of any sort for self defense, be sure to develop the same Condition White/Yellow/Amber/Red situational awareness skills that you would for carrying a concealed firearm. (See Naish Piazza's article "The Color Code of Mental Awareness", available free at the Front Sight web site. (Click on "Special Offers" and then on the link for "15 Gun Training Reports free of charge.") Extensive training on self defense combative techniques is worthless if you don't see an attack Be alert.

If you don't live near a school that teaches cane and stick fighting, there is a 40 minute training DVD produced by the Gunsite academy, titled: "Defensive Techniques: Walking Stick." It is available from the Gunsite Internet Pro Shop. (The latter does not accept overseas orders.) OBTW, one of my readers also recommended Lenny Magill's training DVD "Mastering the Walking Stick".

I should also mention that modern self defense with a walking stick ("Bartitsu") was first popularized by Edward W. Barton-Wright. His classic 1901 magazine article on walking stick self defense is available for free download. See: Part 1 and Part 2. These techniques are weak on weapon retention, but it otherwise is still fairly valid, even after more than a century.

Update for 2009 on Yawaras and Kubotans
For discreet carry, don't overlook the potential effectiveness of short striking weapons such as Yawara sticks and Kubotans. Since these self defense tools are restricted in many locales, I recommend instead carrying a Cold Steel Pocket Shark pen that has had its markings scraped or sanded off. Outwardly, this stout little weapon will pass for a marking pen. (And it fact, it is a marking pen, which should get you past all but the most rigorous security checkpoints.)

Some martial arts dojos offer yawara stick training. These are derivations of the ancient "closed sheath" Japanese striking techniques. These classes are offered by both karate and Filipino Martial Arts (FMA) academies. Just be forewarned that many dojos require at least brown belt ranking as a prerequisite for anything beyond "empty hand" classes. This means a lot of time and money before they will teach you how to use a yawara!

Although they are no substitute for hands-on training from a master, there are several training DVDs that can give you a head start. These include Yawara Kata Training by Maurey Levitz, Kubotans & Yawaras by Sammy Franco, and The Persuader (also known as the Kubotan or Yawara) by George Sylvan.

In closing, I must repeat that situational awareness is crucial. You mind in your primary self-defense weapon. With the right training and a survivor's mindset, just about any small sturdy object found close at hand can be used as a weapon--even a pocket comb or just a tightly-rolled magazine or newspaper. Get the training, practice often, never travel unarmed, and maintain "Condition Yellow", as a minimum.
i ve been in some situtations where Ive had to defend myself..in the uk and spain and other places..and as matter of principle i always aim for the head and to hit as hard as possible....hopefully breaking bone...I aim always to totally incapacitate the assailant....as far as courts....i dont care...i do not belive in authourities right to tell me what i should and should not do....i know that there are alot of techniques taught..but what works best for me...is to carry a stout piece of oak....I long ago stopped believing in the false idea of auhtourity and court..I am a fan of mark passio natural law...and larken rose and if i am being threatened i have to bring my attention to the here and now...and i cant be blocking my adrenal responses with programmed guilt and obedience...to false authouritarian structures.... because thats against natural law..... and also because otherwise im injured or just plain dead

mark passio www.whatonearthishappening.com

larken rose www.larkenrose.com

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Old 15-08-2014, 05:28 PM   #74
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for it has been majorly life changing tuning into the work of mark passio and larken rose....and so I would like to share thier work...because there is a totally different way of seeing the world beyond the commonly programmed perception of "society"

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=natural+law+1+2+3


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The belt around your waist can be a very good defence , a kind of mini whip or nastier if you have the buckle end heading out first.
Make sure your trousers dont fall down when you " whip it out " though

Broom handles are effective too , just dont swing it about, use it to thrust or jab at an attacker and aim for the soft belly parts.
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Carry some hairspray!! Men use it as well! You could always carry a lighter/or matches too! The first sign of trouble - and you have a very handy blowtorch!! Check for wind direction first!!
No good if the lighter fails
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Snooker ball in a sock
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i ve been in some situtations where Ive had to defend myself..in the uk and spain and other places..and as matter of principle i always aim for the head and to hit as hard as possible....hopefully breaking bone...I aim always to totally incapacitate the assailant....as far as courts....i dont care...i do not belive in authourities right to tell me what i should and should not do....i know that there are alot of techniques taught..but what works best for me...is to carry a stout piece of oak....I long ago stopped believing in the false idea of auhtourity and court..I am a fan of mark passio natural law...and larken rose and if i am being threatened i have to bring my attention to the here and now...and i cant be blocking my adrenal responses with programmed guilt and obedience...to false authouritarian structures.... because thats against natural law..... and also because otherwise im injured or just plain dead

mark passio www.whatonearthishappening.com

larken rose www.larkenrose.com
and also just walk quietly amidst the insanity...and walk away as much as possible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAlcD8ffv3k
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..have one of these by the back door..or in the car...

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I've come across a few ''nutters'' in my time, which is why i always carry something when I'm out & about. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6
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