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Old 03-10-2007, 04:18 PM   #21
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Secretary of State John Hutton said:

"We must redouble our efforts to ensure we reach our goal, focussing on all the drivers of social exclusion that hold people back from achieving their true potential."

U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas once reminded a group of young lawyers "As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of darkness".
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:18 PM   #22
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"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."

Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

"The world is governed by personalities very different to what people
that cannot see further than their eyes, believe"

- Benjamin Disraeli - (Statesman)

"in politics nothing is accidental. If something happens, be assured it was
planned this way"

- Franklin D. Roosevelt - (32 Degree Freemason)
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:28 PM   #23
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"Today, I say that no nation in the world need be left out of the global system we are constructing."

- Madeleine Albright -

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."

Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure."

Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.
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"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault."

CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs.

"The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world."

M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)

"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people."

H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)
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"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."

Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 1988)

"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long."

President George Bush (January 1991)

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:57 PM   #26
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"Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice;
nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity."

Lord Acton

"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb.
This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses."

Albert Einstein

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Old 03-10-2007, 05:58 PM   #27
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And Carrol Quigley was a conspiracy theorist giving his theory, his view on the system.

Hardly proof.
Quigley was one of them
just like Manly P.Hall was one of them
just like Lord Bertrand Russell was.

others like Charles Galton Darwin, Jaques Attali and Jacques Ellul (to name a few) also wrote the books in which they "predicted" the future, and they also happened to work for the same elite as former mentioned people have.

Isn't it ironic that much of what they predicted already happened or is happening now?

Plato worked for the same "guardian class"
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:01 PM   #28
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Other sites worth checking out :

http://www.illuminati-news.com/quotes.htm

http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/illuminati.htm

http://www.fdrs.org/illuminati_quotes.html
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:10 PM   #29
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"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."
Edward Bernays, Propaganda (1928)


"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and thus clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
H.L. Mencken or in other words synthetic terror/controlled oppostion like al ciada.


"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809


"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?', Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95


"Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license ... All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
David Brower - first Executive Director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute - quoted by Dixie Lee Ray, Trashing the Planet, p.166


"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."
Amschel Mayer Rothschild, 1773-1855


"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
James A. Garfield


"There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records."
Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University history professor (deceased), in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966, p. 950


"The real danger is the gradual erosion of individual liberties through automation, integration, and interconnection of many small, separate record-keeping systems, each of which alone may seem innocuous, even benevolent, and wholly justifiable."
U. S. Privacy Study Commission, 1977
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:16 PM   #30
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"Complete and accurate surveillance as a means of control is probably a practical impossibility. What is much more likely is a loss of privacy and constant inconvenience as the wrong people gain access to information, as one wastes time convincing the inquisitors that one is in fact innocent, or as one struggles to untangle the errors of the errant machine."
Victor Ferkiss, Technological Man: The Myth and the Reality, 1969


"A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there."
William E. Dodd U.S. Ambassador to Germany 1937


"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
Henry Kissinger, Speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Bilderberg meeting.


"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
Ted Turner - CNN founder and UN supporter - quoted in the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June '96


"Liberal Socialism ... is the immediate task before all rational people. I believe this idea of a planned world-state is one to which all our thought and knowledge is tending ... facts and events conspire in its favour ... It is appearing partially and experimentally at a thousand points."
H.G. Wells, Experiment in Autobiography, 1934, p. 668.


"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas."
G. Brock Chisholm, co-founder of the World Federation for Mental Health, former director of UN World Health Organization


"The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size."
Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb, p.130-131


"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father


"All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself."
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"), Vol. I


"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."
James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President


"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing."
Sir Winston Churchill - Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:21 PM   #31
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What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based on shared principles and the rule of law...The illumination of a thousand points of light...The winds of change are with us now.?

-George Bush-

"We know in the not too distant future, a half dozen corporations are going to control the media.
We took this step (merger) to ensure we were one of them"

-Time Warner spokesperson-


"We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for peace for the post-war period."

- Richard Gephardt, in the Wall Street Journal (September 1990) -
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"...those who formally rule take their signals and commands, not from the electorate as a body, but from a small group of men (plus a few women). This group will be called the Establishment. It exists even though that existence is stoutly denied; it is one of the secrets of the American social order. A second secret is the fact that the existence of the Establishment - the ruling class - is not supposed to be discussed. A third secret is implicit in what has been said - that there is really only one political party of any consequence in the United States, one that has been called the 'Property Party.' The Republicans and the Democrats are in fact two branches of the same (secret) party."
Arthur S. Miller, George Washington University law professor, The Secret Constitution and The Need For Constitutional Change, p.3


"The near monopoly of power once enjoyed by sovereign entities is being eroded ... states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies ... Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker ... The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalization, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy."
Richard Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations, Feb. 21st, 2006


"...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals."
H. Trevor-Roper (ed), The Goebbels Diaries, p. XX, cited in Regan, Geoffrey. 1987. Great Military Disasters. New York: M. Evans and Company


"One-fourth of humanity must be eliminated from the social body. We are in charge of God's selection process for planet earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death."
Psychologist Barbara Marx Hubbard - member of Task Force Delta; a United States Army think tank


"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
Aldous Huxley's lecture to The California Medical School in San Francisco in 1961


"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider - founder and secretary, respectively, of the Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105


"The true equation is 'democracy' = government by world financiers...The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer; still less the backer of the backer; or what is most important of all, the banker of the backer. Enthroned above all, in a manner without parallel in all past, is the veiled prophet of finance, swaying all men living by a sort of magic, and delivering oracles in a language not understanded [sic] of the people."
J.R.R. Tolkien, Candour Magazine, 13 July 1956, p. 12


"The American people should be made aware of the trend toward monopolization of the great public information vehicles and the concentration of more and more power over public opinion in fewer and fewer hands."
Spiro Agnew, U. S. Vice-President, 13 November 1969


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson


"Terrorism is the war of the poor. War is the terrorism of the rich."
Leon Uris, Trinity, a Novel of Ireland, 1976
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:25 PM   #33
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"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press


"The exact contrary of what is generally believed is often the truth."
Jean de la Bruyère


"I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. And if you believe in One World Government, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a Dictatorship - and those plans are there!"
Congressman Ron Paul at an event near Austin, Texas on August 30th, 2003


"...The age of nations must end... The governments of the nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they surrender their arms."
Preliminary Draft of a World Constitution, 1948, introduced in Congress by Senator Glen Taylor in 1950


"The Trilateralist Commission is international... [and] ...is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."
Barry Goldwater (1909-1998) US Senator (R-Arizona), in his book "With No Apologies"
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"But it became clear as time went on that in Mr. Bush's mind the New World Order was founded on a convergence of goals and interests between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, so strong and permanent that they would work as a team through the U.N. Security Council."
-- excerpt from A. M. Rosenthal, in the New York Times (January 1991)

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
-- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House.

"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation."
-- Mayor (1918-1925) John F. Hylan of New York.
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yep those "Disinformationists" hey 'albie'

I guess if they were warning against it, it's odd they should be doing that very thing?


In his article, "Global warming hysteria serves as excuse for world government" Daniel Taylor outlined how the exploitation of the natural phenomenon of "global warming" was a pet project of the Club of Rome and the CFR

"Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated in his article "State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era," that a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. "Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function," says Haass. "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves..."

an essential means of achieving global government by consent over conquest, as has long been the ultimate goal of the elite, is by "fanning public hysteria" over climate change,

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"The Trilateral Commission, one of the three pillars of the New World Order in alliance with Bilderberg and the CFR, met last week in near secrecy to formulate policy on how best they could exploit global warming fearmongering to ratchet up taxes and control over how westerners live their lives.

At the confab, European Chairman of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger and chairman of British Petroleum Peter Sutherland (pictured top), gave a speech to his elitist cohorts in which he issued a "Universal battle cry arose for the world to address “global warming” with a single voice."

Echoing this sentiment was General Lord Guthrie, director of N.M. Rothschild & Sons, member of the House of Lords and former chief of the Defense Staff in London, who urged the Trilateral power-brokers to "Address the global climate crisis with a single voice, and impose rules that apply worldwide."


Globalists love global warming! Oil industry kingpins, Bilderbergers and Rothschild minions have all put their weight behind it. This is a fraud conceived, nurtured and promulgated by elite, and to castigate individuals for merely questioning the motives behind climate change fearmongering by accusing them of being mouthpieces for the establishment is a complete reversal of the truth

Yeah, the view OF ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

Real trustworthy.
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Tragedy and Hope is based on his analysis and extensive research in the closely-held papers of an Anglo-American elite organization to which he was given access


Quigley was professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, formerly taught at Princeton and at Harvard. He has done research in the archives of France, Italy, and England, and is the author of the widely praised Evolution of Civilizations and the Official Historian for the Council on Forieign relations

Quigley served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Navy, the Smithsonian Institute, and the United States House Select Committee on Astronautics and Space Exploration, which was important in the establishment of NASA
IT'S HIS VIEW OF EVENTS.

Real trustworthy.

Bias.
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Wether this was a warning or not is now beside the point, they are now applying what this quote says so it is relevent to the situation at hand.

Keep the NWO quotes coming

YOU ASSUME IT IS HAPPENING.

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Bias.
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don't let 'albie' mislead you, it's not a warning it's a revealing:



By Professor Carroll Quigley.


"This is the book that blows the lid off the secret organization created by Cecil Rhodes to quietly gain control over the nations of the world and establish a global government based on the model of collectivism. Professor Quigley (President Clinton’s history professor at Georgetown University) was a trusted supporter of this organization and was given access to its private papers.

When his book was released by a major New York publishing house, it was expected that it would be read only by academics who are interested in the organization’s history and sympathetic to its goals.

However, when it began to be quoted by critics, the publisher withdrew the book from print. This led to the appearance of an underground version that circulated throughout the 1970s and 80s.

Eventually, the publisher was pressured into authorizing this official reprint edition, which is an exact replica of the original. It is a mammoth history interspersed with startling information about the secret organization’s impact on almost every major event of modern history. 1348 pages, hardbound."
The problem is that you guys can't weigh up evidence. You don't even try to see another side and you don't check.

That's why books like this will always be sat on your coffee tables, next a bong and the seventh rewrite of your suicide note.
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IT'S HIS VIEW OF EVENTS.

Real trustworthy.

Bias.
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YOU ASSUME IT IS HAPPENING.

Real trustworthy.

Bias.

Stuck record!
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Secretary of State John Hutton said:

"We must redouble our efforts to ensure we reach our goal, focussing on all the drivers of social exclusion that hold people back from achieving their true potential."
I took this quote at random and checked it...

It's about erradicating child poverty.

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The level of child poverty in Britain was the worst in Europe. Now child poverty is falling faster than in any other European country. The changes this government have made, such as tax credits to make work pay and our decision to invest in and reform key public services, have helped lift 2.4 million people out of poverty since 1997 – including 800,000 children and a million pensioners.

“Despite these achievements, we have not quite reached our first target on child poverty - but we remain absolutely committed to the goal the Prime Minister set back in 1999 of eradicating child poverty within a generation.

“Now we must redouble our efforts to ensure we reach our goal, focussing on all the drivers of social exclusion that hold people back from achieving their true potential.”
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/mediacentre/pr...015-090306.asp

Yet again I find Dondaz lying to you. Twisting the meaning of a quote to deceive you.

Yet you call ME A disinfo agent.

yet I bet you can't find one example of me lying.
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