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Old 24-01-2018, 09:53 PM   #101
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So out of 82 potential defendants, the CPS could only find 16 to charge, but unfortunately they had not broken the law at the time, so they had to wait two years in order to be fitted up with morality crimes that were tenuously attached to the OAPA of 1861 in order to perhaps be successfully prosecuted???

We are left with 66 potential defendants that could NOT be prosecuted in an easier manner.

WHY?


WHAT PREVENTED THEM FROM BEING PROSECUTED?

Had they all committed suicide because they were all worried over whether they were going to be charged or not?

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Old 27-01-2018, 10:44 AM   #102
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All statistics given in this thread had been disclosed at initial hearing(s).
There is no reason to believe that the figure of 82 potential defendants may be incorrect - it coincides with the original given statistics. .
All of those defendants put forward for charging would have been charged in due course (under normal circumstances) as prosecution was on behalf of the Church and not the State.
Therefore the Crown Prosecution Service had no authority to intervene, or to drop charges, as the names (and proposed charges) had been compiled by a Crown authority.
The figure of sixteen represents those who were selected during the second part of the operation, and the rest represent the selected potential defendants of the first part. There were no further raids following the 16 in 1987.

So we have 66 from the first part of the operation who could not under any circumstances be charged, although put forward by the Church.
We have been informed that over 60 suicides had occurred prior to the charging by the CPS. From simple deduction it can only follow that this figure of "over 60 had taken their own life" was comprised of mostly "potential defendants" as;
1) The figure would not otherwise be known
2) Such a contemplation had few other reasons to occur as a consequence to a raid
3) There were no defendants available for prosecution
So we are left with the presumption that all potential defendants (66) from the Witchfinder raids from 1983 to 1986 (the first part) had met their deaths prematurely and mostly, if not all, by suicide with a total of over 100 early deaths.

Does that sound in any way remotely possible?
With such numbers, it would be common for at least some of the suicides to be failed bids if nothing else.
All 66 proposed defendants had died prior to being charged??
How could the OPB have known the true causes of all these deaths?
How could the OPB possibly know there were another 40 or so deaths from causes other than suicide too after the raids had been carried out???
Exactly whom had collated these statistics, and for what reason?
Could it therefore have been possible that the numbers themselves held some significance in the operation?

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Old 28-01-2018, 10:56 AM   #103
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Had the word "over" been used to disguise some of the true statistics from exposure?

Figure hidden in the statistics ( defendants, part 1: 66) This can be gleaned from Hames's book, although the number has never been disclosed in itself as an item, as covert raids involved.
Figure already known part 2 (defendants : 16)
Number incarcerated 9
Figures partly disclosed,
Number of total raids: "over" 640
Number of early deaths "over" 100
Number of suicides "over" 60

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Old 30-01-2018, 06:54 PM   #104
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Certainly one possibility that explains how these figures could possibly have been known, but not fully disclosed, would be that the count had been made for a reason - that statistics had been required to meet certain targets - (with all the implications that may suggest).

If that had been the case, then one possibility would certainly have been that 650 raids had been carried out for the first part of the operation involving over 100 early deaths thereby signifying to all members (650) of the House of Commons that they should tread carefully as Crown power also came from the Church; or alternatively, signifying and cementing crown power over them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_...United_Kingdom

That would then mean that the second part of the operation featuring incarcerations was an alternative outcome, with the 16 Spannermen raids making a total of 666 to signify the success of the campaign.

In such an instance,the question must therefore also arise as to whether any of the early-deceased had been victims of any ritual, or indeed had met a violent death.

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If indeed the statistics had been predefined, then both parts of the operation had been carried out to order, and the resulting outcomes of both parts had thus been demanded requirements.

There is possibly sufficient evidence to show the Spannermen case was so, regardless of any statistics, and the technical details of exactly how to bring about jail sentences had been left to the CPS.
In addition there is also compelling evidence to show that they had been selected and were being targeted prior to the discovery of any video evidence.
The Spannermen had thus been specifically chosen for incarceration prior to any evidence surfacing that would provide the means for that end result.

Should this have been the case, it follows that we could then be looking at a demand for as many as over 100 instigated deaths with later incarcerations to make the number up.

Who would have been able to make this demand?

Had the whole operation been based on satanic ritual and sacrifice, and possibly signifying and instilling royal power over the Commoners?

With the demonstrated acquiescence of both church and state, without so much as a gentle whimper, what does this imply about the "campaign"?

Only the crown had power over the church, and the right to make such extravagant evil demands via the church.

And possibly only the appointment of a Witchfinder General would have provided legal powers and exemptions from enactments made in summary manner during the campaign.

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Old 01-02-2018, 10:24 AM   #106
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Under normal circumstances, the OPB would have wished the successes of the first part of the operation to be heralded as front page news, regardless of whether or not the teams involved had been manned by OPB officers; particularly with 66 potential defendants awaiting charges.

However this had not been the case, and all actions taken during this part of Operation Spanner had been carried out in deep secrecy, and have remained so even until this day.

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Old 02-02-2018, 07:19 AM   #107
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Certainly one possibility that explains how these figures could possibly have been known, but not fully disclosed, would be that the count had been made for a reason - that statistics had been required to meet certain targets - (with all the implications that may suggest).

If that had been the case, then one possibility would certainly have been that 650 raids had been carried out for the first part of the operation involving over 100 early deaths thereby signifying to all members (650) of the House of Commons that they should tread carefully as Crown power also came from the Church; or alternatively, signifying and cementing crown power over them.

That would then mean that the second part of the operation featuring incarcerations was an alternative outcome, with the 16 Spannermen raids making a total of 666 to signify the success of the campaign..
If indeed the statistics from the total number of raids had been so, then let us look at the number of defendants whom either met their deaths or were incarcerated as well.
We then have 66 dead and 9 incarcerated defendants.

That would appear to be a somewhat odd coincidence, does it not?

If this is all correct, and is no odd coincidence, then what implications do these figures thus convey about the Spannermen case, and the British judicial system?

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Old 02-02-2018, 07:47 AM   #108
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The 9 incarcerated defendants:

The number 9 symbolises both the completion and end of a cycle, or series, and therefore signifies the end.

THE ENNEAD. 9.

THE Ennead is the first square of an odd number, it was said to be like the Ocean flowing around the other numbers within the Decad; no further elementary number is possible, hence it is like the Horizon because all the numbers are bounded by it. We find that it was called Prometheus, and "Freedom from Strife," and "Vulcan," because the ascent of numbers is as far as 9, just as the ascent of things decomposed by fire is as far as the sphere of Fire (the summit of the air), and Juno, because the Sphere of the air is arranged according to the novenary system, and "sister and wife to Jupiter" from its conjunction with the Monad. And "Telesphoros" or "Bringing to an end" because the human offspring is carried 9 calendar months by the parent. And teleios or perfect for the same reason, and also called "Perfect" because it is generated from the Triad, which is called "Perfect."

Attention is called to its being an emblem of Matter, which, ever varying, is never destroyed; so the number 9 when multiplied by any number always reproduces itself, thus:—9 times 2 are 18 and 8 plus 1 are nine: and so on as below:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/nop/nop16.htm

The symbolism of Number 9 (Ennead)

The esoteric meaning of the number nine is associated with the idea of ??completeness and perfection, done it and related to the synthesis of the three worlds, that is a triple trinity (God, the universe, man). Well it reflects the essence of the meaning which had nine in the Chinese tradition, where it symbolized the concept of “everything.” In nine of his divine aspect means the divine power and the power of the Creator, which is manifested in the material environment laws. In its natural aspect, number nine symbolizes the physical plane of existence, in which the law is manifested trinity. In its human aspect, nine represents the idea of ??spiritual power, which is expressed in the possession of the three worlds, that is, the idea of ??initiation.

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Old 02-02-2018, 08:27 AM   #109
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The 66 deceased defendants:

The number 66 symbolises the pathway
("Get your kicks on route 66")

66 – Gematria Study & Occult Illuminati Symbolism

According to esoteric tradition, the numbers 6, 66, and 666 are what constitute a pathway for hex-craft or spiritual magick to be performed as a “charming” tool for both hexing and enchanting.
Various adherents to the practices of magika (type of divining magic), such as found in mystery religions or cult-based witchcraft, utilize the number 66 during ritual number divining (channeling). Other groups such as the neo-Pagans or modern Freemasons use the number as a means for material gain. Now the use of so-called spiritual magic, particularly in the occult, is oft applied to a magick system of numbers – found most often represented/interpreted in the hexagram and magic square.


https://gematria.codes/category/66-occult-symbolism/

General

The sum of numbers 1 to 66 gives 2211 considered by some esoteric or sacred texts as divine since they make of it the numbered representation of God and the Temple.

To offer a means of growing rich quickly, to preserve from the evil and to attract all the graces of God

Gematria

By using the correspondence A=1, B=2, ..., Z=26, we discover that dead ("mort") and to curse ("maudir") give each one 66. By using the opposite correspondence (A=26, Z=1), we find that the word cross (in French "croix") gives also 66.

http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu66.php

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Old 03-02-2018, 11:26 AM   #110
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The Spannermen Case (part 2 of Operation Spanner)

In this clip from "Voices of Liberty", Sean Gabb, then Webmaster of the Libertarian Alliance, talks about Operation Spanner. (filmed around 26 or so years ago)




For correctness sake it should also be stated that;
There had been no advert offering contents of Spannermen videos.
The nailing referred to had been made through an established piercing, and not flesh.

However, an excellent and concise summary by Sean nevertheless.

http://www.libertarian.co.uk/?q=publications

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Old 03-02-2018, 02:28 PM   #111
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A brief summary of Operation Spanner (not the court case) starts here:

https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...5&postcount=91
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Is it any surprise that nothing but disinformation is therefore available to the public concerning the Witchfinder General appointments?

OF COURSE they were unofficially permitted to carry out summary executions.

OF COURSE their main targets were officially elderly and poor women.

Women were traditionally reserved for the show trials only.

Mostly middle class businessmen were freemasons; and of these, only those who had become highly trained in occult practices could possibly form any perceived threat to the Church and the State.

However, needs and uses do change with the times, do they not?

Certainly show trials for the records would thus appear to be deemed still appropriate.

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So we are faced with the fact that an essentially highly skilled satanist and occultist had been covertly appointed to a historical and traditional satanic and occult position as Witchfinder General to undertake what may possibly have been a six-year long satanic ritual of reaffirmation of crown power and influence over the Commons and the judicial system, and also as initiation into his new role.
If that was so, then the numbers of raids, suicides, and incarcerations had been specified targets prior to the operation, thereby explaining the collated counts.

Now let us look at facts and numbers we DO know are precise, by studying the dates and the name given to the operation so that we may confirm or deny for certainty whether the whole operation carries occult signatures.

Start date : 1983 = 1+9+8+3 = 21

Symbolic Meaning of the Number 21 : The number 21 is a deeply symbolic number that ultimately brings together the cosmic creation of the 20 with the individual – the one. Essentially the 21 is the manifestation resulting from the 20 in which the initiate must learn patience and develop a balanced mind.We see this idea succinctly in the three and the seven, 7×3 of course equalling 21. The three is the sacred number of completion, the creation of the male and female energy and the symbolic meaning of the divine seven which determines whether the result is good or bad.
In the Bible, the 21 is associated with resurrection – death and rebirth. It is the end of one cycle and the beginning of a new mission. We see the same idea reflected in modern day traditions. When a person turns 21, they are said to have reached maturity and in the UK are given “the key of the door.”
In the Bible we see the 21 as a reflection of both good and bad. It is associated with sin and rebellion, but is also a representation of God and the Temple. There are 21 chapters in the book of Judges, a significant title given the 21 is when judgement is handed down
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https://mastermindcontent.co.uk/serv...the-number-21/
= 3 (the pagan trinity, the first perfect number) The first number
Three (3) is the first sacred number, the first perfect number (Westcott, p. 41). Three represents the Pagan Trinity.” (Westcott, p. 37). It is represented geo-metrically in the triangle, and spiritually as the Third Eye Of Hinduism. Occultists will multiply and add three to other sacred numbers to create new numbers. However, they also group threes in two’s and threes, because they believe in the principle of “intensification”, i.e., that greater power is achieved when a sacred number is grouped. In the case of three, greater intensification is achieved when it is shown as 33, or 333. 333 + 333 equals 666. Occultists have used 333 as the hidden symbol by which they present the more offensive number 666. When the details of an event are so arranged as to contain certain sacred occult numbers or numeric combinations, this is literally an occult signature on the event. Mathematically, 666 can be created when three pairs of threes are added. Thus, (3+3) + (3+3) + (3+3) = 666. Now, eliminate the parentheses and the plus sign, and you have 33 space, 33 space, 33, representing the number 666.
https://mstmha.wordpress.com/biblica...st-numerology/

This is the number of royalty. It symbolizes the magical shape of the triangle. It symbolizes the Holy Trinity which is Nimrod Semiramis Tamus … or Osiris, Isis, Horus … or Satan, Eve and Cain
http://helpfreetheearth.com/news565_numbers.html

End date (charges brought) : 1989 = 1+9+8+9 = 27

The number 27 = 9+9+9 the most powerful magnification of 9 as it symbolizes 3 nines. ( 999 is a hidden and an inverted 666 and symbolizes hidden evil.)
http://helpfreetheearth.com/news565_numbers.html
= 9 ( the end, completion, initiation) The last number
Nine has already been explained above here:
https://forum.davidicke.com/showpost...&postcount=108

Together = 39 :

Number 39
The perfect 3 multiplied by the sacred 13. 39 is an anagram for 93, the “literal number of magic itself”- Crowley.

http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.co.u...mbers-are.html
http://helpfreetheearth.com/news565_numbers.html

The Name

Spanner :


By using the correspondence A=1, B=2, ..., Z=26, (English ordinal) we are given the number 87 (=6).

Six (6) is the next sacred number, representing the number of the soul of man (Westcott, p. 66). This shows the omnipotent power of God, as this belief parallels Revelation 13:18, where God assigns 666 to man and to the beast. Six is also believed to be “all-sufficient”. This parallels Biblical teaching, which states that man’s great sin is pride in himself
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https://mstmha.wordpress.com/biblica...st-numerology/

By reversing the above code, (reverse ordinal), we are left with 102 (=3). - See above for the number 3

Under full reduction, this gives 33
http://www.gematrinator.com/calculator/index.php

33 :
Number 33 : A magical number. The perfect 3 multiplied by the master 11. This number has much significance in religions of the world, as well as historical organizations such as the Freemasons. Secret societies such as Skull and Bones also worship the number 33.
http://freetofindtruth.blogspot.co.u...mbers-are.html

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Old 18-02-2018, 11:43 AM   #114
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Well, there can be no doubt that the whole of Operation Spanner has an occult signature, regardless of the total number of raids undertaken.
This would indicate the whole operation was pre-planned prior to the date; with the pre-determined use of millions of pounds of taxpayer funding to undertake a scheduled six-year long satanic ritual pathway and initiation incorporating multiple agendas and distinct purposes as were (by the few) perceived necessary and available at that time, and involving covert activities and a false cover story occasionally referring to remnants of the truth; whilst being fully monitored throughout by the security services, and resulting in over 100 suspicious deaths and nine wrongful incarcerations.

The Spannermen case had been purposely inflated to the maximum, by the use of false claims, false charges and lies passed to the media for daily large print front page splashes throughout the trial in order to both undermine the defence, and to try and justify the (six year) costs - as the timespan had been massively reduced and falsely whittled down into the "official story" of a much simpler 2 or 3 year operation in order to avoid suspicion, - of both the earlier part of the operation, and of the underlying costs which have never been fully disclosed to the taxpayer. Thus the simple cover story had been falsely enhanced to the point of inciting public outrage in order to overcome that problem, with no concern whatsoever for the Spannermen.

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Some people? do seem to have strange ways of getting their jollies, do they not?

In a civilised society, a line must be drawn between what is acceptable behaviour and what is not!
The sanctity of life, and a right to pursue a lifestyle without interference (as a person or as a group) - which does not harm others, is a fundamental measure of that civilised behaviour, and any transgression of that right is simply not suitable for a well developed, peaceful society.
Clearly, Operation Spanner falls on the wrong side of that line on both counts.

Similarly, one cannot be said to be upholding the law if one has special powers or exemptions related to that law.
What is right or wrong must apply across the board to all!
Anything less is a tyranny.

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The underhand methods used prior to the raids (before 1987) leads me to question the circumstances prevalent during the raids, and whether some of those raided had in fact been led to believe that they were being visited by a like-minded or compatible partner and had been asked to put themselves in a compromising position for the raid, in order to give the police the distinct advantage of surprise.
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To those who lost their lives, may you now rest in peace. The secret has now been exposed.

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It would also be helpful to know the identities of all those who may have had contact with any of the early-deceased and raided men, other than known friends or family.

Also the identities of all those who were being initiated/trained, and who the teachers/masters were prior to 1987.

Also the person, department or agency who had collated the total figures.

And if (as claimed) 11 provincial forces had also been involved, in what capacity had this been:- during raids, the supply of initiates, or in follow-up visits, or other?

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Exactly what had the initiates been initiated in/into, throughout these raids and activities?

Had suiciding skills been one of them?

Had any victims lost blood, or suffered puncture wounds, or strangulation?

What percentage of the early deaths were of single men living alone?


Lord Templeman:
“society is entitled and bound to protect itself against a cult of violence”
Lord Jauncey:
“rather curious activities”
Lord Lowry:
"(This) activity cannot be regarded as conducive to the enhancement or enjoyment of family life or conducive to the welfare of society"
Lord Mustill:
“It is sufficient to say that whatever the outside might feel about the subject matter of the prosecution — perhaps horror, amazement or incomprehension, perhaps sadness — very few could read even a summary of the other activities without disgust”; “If repugnance to general public sentiments of morality and propriety were the test, one would have expected proceedings in respect of the most disgusting conduct to be prosecuted with the greater vigour”; “Thus, whilst acknowledging that very many people, if asked whether the appellants’ conduct was wrong, would reply ‘Yes, repulsively wrong’.”

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In what respect had intel services been involved with monitoring the whole Spannermen operation from 1983 to 1991, and for what reasons had they sought to covertly search the homes of incarcerated men in 1991?

Had they believed that something had been missed from/during the Spannermen operation?

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