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Old 12-02-2018, 08:17 AM   #101
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Won't comment on what the British government is doing but the Eurocrats seem to be over-egging the pudding as we say here.


https://www.davidicke.com/article/45...-customs-union


and of course one of the most important parts of a divorce is allocating blame directly or by implication.
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Old 12-02-2018, 05:18 PM   #102
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It's a case of good cop bad cop.

They want us to stay and are doing everything to punish us for voting to leave.
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Old 14-02-2018, 09:06 AM   #103
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Soft Brexit is dead!


https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/91...-latest-update
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Old 15-02-2018, 06:09 PM   #104
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without the U.K , the E.U is a bankrupt entity

the U.K has been the single largest financial contributor to the project from the outset

without the U.K the whole thing is going to collapse

and they know it

what a classic case of bravado gone wrong , they genuinely believed people had been fooled into accepting the mess

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Old 18-02-2018, 09:15 PM   #106
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People are always slagging everyone off who voted for Brexit. Brexiteers, swivel eyed loons, racists etc etc etc.

One way I look at things is like this. The people who voted in the first referendum way back in 1975 are those people who who also voted to leave. They have seen how the EU isn't the greatest thing on earth.

It's the younger generation, generation snow flake, who have been indoctrinated into believing the EU is the only way for the UK.
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Old 03-03-2018, 02:47 PM   #107
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People are always slagging everyone off who voted for Brexit. Brexiteers, swivel eyed loons, racists etc etc etc.

One way I look at things is like this. The people who voted in the first referendum way back in 1975 are those people who who also voted to leave. They have seen how the EU isn't the greatest thing on earth.

It's the younger generation, generation snow flake, who have been indoctrinated into believing the EU is the only way for the UK.
In 1975, we belonged to the EEC, which was an entirely different entity to the current format though, at the time, we had no idea what was coming. Who then could foresee the collapse of the Warsaw Pact nations; the rise of globalism, and the wholesale export of manufacturing jobs to Asia?

Personally, I was happy with our EEC membership in 1975, if only for purely selfish reasons. It opened up a new world for me and allowed me to work and travel unhindered in other countries which, at the time, still retained their nation-state identities. The modern EU bears no resemblance whatsoever to the Europe of 1975.

Having said all that (sorry), I think Brexit will die a slow and painful death. Unless other EU nations follow suit and vote to leave, Britain will wither and sooner or later, will be back in the fold. It may take a decade or so but I'm certain it will happen.
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Old 03-03-2018, 07:43 PM   #108
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The eu gives strategic access to Russian borders.
The 'cold war' has not ceased.
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Old 08-03-2018, 07:21 AM   #109
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The EU will collapse long before the influx of migrants over the last few years integrates with mainstream society.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/46...-called-racist

The main political parties will probably have gone too.
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Old 29-03-2018, 07:00 AM   #110
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It was never racist to point out the shear and deliberate incompetence in the running or complete lack of UK border controls.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ome-again.html


It's anybody's guess how many undocumented people are in the UK but they are not all living in the woods and as the article later states many landlords (including local councils) have tenants that are otherwise undocumented to central goverment. One suspects the treasury are almost certainly sitting on enough information to easily find a good half million of them and could easily access business information to find many of the rest.
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Old 29-03-2018, 07:28 AM   #111
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Brexit will not mean a land of milk and honey , at best, everything stays the same.
Remain means an access to cheap unlimited unskilled labour which drives down
terms and conditions of the worker. Qui bono ?.

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Old 29-03-2018, 11:00 AM   #112
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Alot of 'undocumented' crime and 'undocumented' disease also.
Buy to let landlords are a scourge and have ruined many good areas.
The 'government' know exactly where these 'undocumented' people are because they're shipping them around the country fomerly known as England.

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It was never racist to point out the shear and deliberate incompetence in the running or complete lack of UK border controls.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ome-again.html


It's anybody's guess how many undocumented people are in the UK but they are not all living in the woods and as the article later states many landlords (including local councils) have tenants that are otherwise undocumented to central goverment. One suspects the treasury are almost certainly sitting on enough information to easily find a good half million of them and could easily access business information to find many of the rest.
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Old 02-05-2018, 08:26 AM   #113
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If a second referendum is going to take place at some point in the future the wording would be very important.



"Do you want Britain to leave the EU?" or "Do you want Britain to leave the EU and abolish the House of Lords?"


Is my suggestion for a good turn out.

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Old 02-05-2018, 06:03 PM   #114
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It's a complete mess.

Totally shambolic mess.

Of course it's a mess because they want it to be that way. If it was going to war or bombing some third world country it would be done and dusted in 24 hours, but Brexit is like whack a mole, you kill something off and they come back at you with something different.

I still think it won't happen, or if it does it will be Brexit in name only, they've spent to much time and money convincing the younger idiotic generations that they only way is to be part of the EU.
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It's a complete mess.

Totally shambolic mess.

Of course it's a mess because they want it to be that way. If it was going to war or bombing some third world country it would be done and dusted in 24 hours, but Brexit is like whack a mole, you kill something off and they come back at you with something different.

I still think it won't happen, or if it does it will be Brexit in name only, they've spent to much time and money convincing the younger idiotic generations that they only way is to be part of the EU.

There will be no brexit, it will continue to be dragged out and diluted so much that nothing will change.

This should show the voters how much power their votes don’t have,
but hey ho, keep voting

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Old 26-05-2018, 09:15 PM   #116
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.......but hey ho, keep voting


Funny you should mention that.


The forward thinking electoral commission are setting aside funds for possible 2019 MEP elections.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-eurosceptics/

Great thinking by them considering the British government had no publishable plans to conduct Brexit within the 2 years article 50 framework even whilst the referendum was taking place.

Perhaps UKIP could enrole a donkey as a potential candidate. It would win on a landslide as things stand.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:41 PM   #117
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It's all gone a bit quiet on the Brexit front at the moment. Nigel Farage is heading to Australia and it's not been in the news for a few weeks.

George Soros want's a 2nd referendum, I think that's they way it will go, and we will end up staying in the EU.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:47 PM   #118
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I just can’t see the uk separating itself for about 20 more years.
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Old 03-06-2018, 07:50 PM   #119
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I just can’t see the uk separating itself for about 20 more years.
If at all! We got trolled. Should another vote happen, the country can whistle for mine!
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What's needed is a hard nosed "Think once, think twice, think Brexit!" advert just like the old road safety ones finishing with a big placard marked Brexit hitting the drivers side window.
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